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Nemo

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Mar 12, 2013, 1:43:11 PM3/12/13
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Iyyyyy'm . .

66 today, 66 today!
I'm not 65 no more -
Now it's 6 years plus three-score!

Too cold to get down to the West End today. I got frozen to the marrow
and a lamp-post yesterday!! I'll try tomorrow and see what I can find
for a suitable birfday present from me to me!!

Any suggestions?

Nemo.
When I was 65, I really felt alive!
Now I'm 66, I need to learn new tricks!

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 12, 2013, 2:17:18 PM3/12/13
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In article <QOJ%s.13476$Og1...@fx10.fr7>, Nemo <ne...@naughtylass.wet>
wrote:
The old Trixe threw you out?
--
Michael LeVine - mle...@redshift.com
"I can remember when a liberal was one
who was generous with his own money"
Will Rogers

TB

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Mar 12, 2013, 4:38:22 PM3/12/13
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On Mar 12, 10:43 am, Nemo <n...@naughtylass.wet> wrote:
> Iyyyyy'm . .
>
> 66 today, 66 today!
> I'm not 65 no more -
> Now it's 6 years plus three-score!
>
> Too cold to get down to the West End today. I got frozen to the marrow
> and a lamp-post yesterday!! I'll try tomorrow and see what I can find
> for a suitable birfday present from me to me!!
>
> Any suggestions?

eHarmony.com?

Bill Taylor

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Mar 13, 2013, 2:26:26 AM3/13/13
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On Mar 13, 6:43 am, Nemo <n...@naughtylass.wet> wrote:

> 66 today, 66 today!

So, you are a mini-beast!

________________
| |
| | <---- insert pic of mini-beast here
| |
|_______ ________|

Roger the Saurus

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Mar 13, 2013, 11:10:12 AM3/13/13
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"Bill Taylor" <wfc.t...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
know.
--
Roger the Saurus
(remove bollix to reply)

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 13, 2013, 11:22:19 AM3/13/13
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>> When I was 65, I really felt alive!
>> Now I'm 66, I need to learn new tricks!
>The old Trixe threw you out?
Hey he's young enough to adapt.
Put one before the other and go trojan along.

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 13, 2013, 11:23:27 AM3/13/13
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>> 66 today, 66 today!
>So, you are a mini-beast!
With all his sas'quatch out!

Nemo

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Mar 14, 2013, 1:42:17 AM3/14/13
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On 12/03/2013 18:17, Michael N. LeVine wrote:
> In article <QOJ%s.13476$Og1...@fx10.fr7>, Nemo <ne...@naughtylass.wet>
> wrote:
>> Iyyyyy'm . .
>>
>> 66 today, 66 today!
>> I'm not 65 no more -
>> Now it's 6 years plus three-score!
>>
>> Too cold to get down to the West End today. I got frozen to the marrow
>> and a lamp-post yesterday!! I'll try tomorrow and see what I can find
>> for a suitable birfday present from me to me!!
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Nemo.
>> When I was 65, I really felt alive!
>> Now I'm 66, I need to learn new tricks!
> The old Trixe threw you out?
>
Ohhh thank you most sincerely for your kind good wishes for my birthday!!

Nemo

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Mar 14, 2013, 1:42:47 AM3/14/13
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Ohhh thank *you* most sincerely for your kind good wishes for my birthday!!

Nemo

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Mar 14, 2013, 1:44:46 AM3/14/13
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Huge LOL! I've had enough of that sort of rubbish, but thanks. Looks
like your heart is in the right place. Let's hope it stays there!

Nemo

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Mar 14, 2013, 1:47:57 AM3/14/13
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On 13/03/2013 06:26, Bill Taylor wrote:
> On Mar 13, 6:43 am, Nemo <n...@naughtylass.wet> wrote:
>
>> 66 today, 66 today!
>
> So, you are a mini-beast!
>
> ________________
> | |
>

/)/)
( �.�)
o(('')('')

(Lurker - a.b.clip-art ages ago.)

Nemo

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Mar 14, 2013, 1:49:27 AM3/14/13
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On 13/03/2013 15:10, Roger the Saurus wrote:
>
> "Bill Taylor" <wfc.t...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a38ef47e-79dc-4adf...@vv8g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>> On Mar 13, 6:43 am, Nemo <n...@naughtylass.wet> wrote:
>>
>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>>
>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>>
>> ________________
>> | |
>> | | <---- insert pic of mini-beast here
>> | |
>> |_______ ________|
>
> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
> know.

She was a man-mounting?

Nemo

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Mar 14, 2013, 1:51:14 AM3/14/13
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Iyyy haven't got big feet!! They're size 9 - plus corns!

Bill Taylor

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Mar 14, 2013, 6:52:10 AM3/14/13
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On Mar 14, 6:47 pm, Nemo <n...@naughtylass.wet> wrote:

>      /)/)
>     ( °.°)
>   o(('')('')

Nice!

>     <---- insert pic of mini-beast here

And here's an even minnier one... >-:::8

-- biological bill

GordonD

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Mar 14, 2013, 8:54:29 AM3/14/13
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"Nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> wrote in message
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Just don't go to heaven when you're 67!

Belated happy birthday, Nemo!
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 14, 2013, 11:10:20 AM3/14/13
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>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>> | |
>> | | <---- insert pic of mini-beast here
>> | |
>> |_______ ________|
>Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>know.
She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 14, 2013, 11:11:47 AM3/14/13
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>>>> When I was 65, I really felt alive!
>>>> Now I'm 66, I need to learn new tricks!
>>> The old Trixe threw you out?
>> Hey he's young enough to adapt.
>> Put one before the other and go trojan along.
>Ohhh thank *you* most sincerely for your kind good wishes for my birthday!!
You're welcome, it's nothing special ... <G>!

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 14, 2013, 11:12:45 AM3/14/13
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>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>> With all his sas'quatch out!
>Iyyy haven't got big feet!! They're size 9 - plus corns!
Wracked on the Scholl's?

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 14, 2013, 11:13:42 AM3/14/13
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>>     <---- insert pic of mini-beast here
>And here's an even minnier one... >-:::8
>-- biological bill
Ummm, the last would be a 69 ...

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 14, 2013, 11:14:35 AM3/14/13
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>> When I was 65, I really felt alive!
>> Now I'm 66, I need to learn new tricks!
>Just don't go to heaven when you're 67!
>Belated happy birthday, Nemo!
Three pints for the chateau's brigand ...

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 14, 2013, 1:42:38 PM3/14/13
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In the Fall...

Nick

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Mar 14, 2013, 2:53:59 PM3/14/13
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"Nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> wrote in message
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A belated Happy Birthday - hope you had fun! :-)

--
Nick


Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 15, 2013, 11:29:42 AM3/15/13
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>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>>> know.
>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>In the Fall...
A bit later, when the snow's white.

Frank McCoy

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Mar 15, 2013, 11:52:40 AM3/15/13
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At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"

--
_____
/ ' / ™
,-/-, __ __. ____ /_
(_/ / (_(_/|_/ / <_/ <_

MartinS

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Mar 15, 2013, 4:12:38 PM3/15/13
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"Nick" <paci...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> "Nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> wrote...
>> Iyyyyy'm . .
>>
>> 66 today, 66 today!
>> I'm not 65 no more -
>> Now it's 6 years plus three-score!
>>
>> Too cold to get down to the West End today. I got frozen to the
>> marrow and a lamp-post yesterday!! I'll try tomorrow and see what I
>> can find for a suitable birfday present from me to me!!
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Nemo.
>> When I was 65, I really felt alive!
>> Now I'm 66, I need to learn new tricks!
>
> A belated Happy Birthday - hope you had fun! :-)

Although, as Wilfred Pickles used to say on t' telly, "Do you suffer
from lumbago or arthritis? It's not much fun, is it?" - before holding
up a tin of Fynnon Salts.

--
Martin S

Judith

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Mar 15, 2013, 4:53:11 PM3/15/13
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In article <_qd0t.15674$Wt4....@fx31.fr7>, Nemo <ne...@naughtylass.wet>
wrote:
Here are some more.

Much-older Judith

--
Nature is a large damp space where birds fly about uncooked.
-Oscar Wilde

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 15, 2013, 5:14:20 PM3/15/13
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In article <0tg6k89811q2iahr4...@4ax.com>,
Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:

> Sir F.A. Rien <nog...@ttrr.org> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
> >>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
> >>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
> >>>> know.
> >>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
> >>In the Fall...
> >A bit later, when the snow's white.
> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
Why so negative?

Frank McCoy

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Mar 15, 2013, 8:58:59 PM3/15/13
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"Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:

>In article <0tg6k89811q2iahr4...@4ax.com>,
> Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> Sir F.A. Rien <nog...@ttrr.org> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>> >>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>> >>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>> >>>> know.
>> >>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>> >>In the Fall...
>> >A bit later, when the snow's white.
>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>Why so negative?
The prints is diaries.

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:05:00 AM3/16/13
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Was that before Ginger bred in the house?

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:14:16 AM3/16/13
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>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>>>>>> know.
>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>>>> In the Fall...
>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
> Why so negative?
That's all that developed.

Nemo

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:22:27 AM3/16/13
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Don't wear those. I wear syntheic Doctor Mattin's heavy-duty shoes from
here . .

http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/

. . . and Marks and Spensive cheap Plimsolls. They're called that
because as you run along the solls go "Plim! Plim! Plim! Plim! Plim!
Plim! Plim! . . . "

Nemo

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:26:56 AM3/16/13
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Don't tell me David Cameraman and Click! Neg! are going to tax us all
for being biological now!


Nemo

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On 14/03/2013 12:54, GordonD wrote:
> "Nemo" <ne...@naughtylass.wet> wrote in message
> news:QOJ%s.13476$Og1...@fx10.fr7...
>> Iyyyyy'm . .
>>
>> 66 today, 66 today!
>> I'm not 65 no more -
>> Now it's 6 years plus three-score!
>>
>> Too cold to get down to the West End today. I got frozen to the marrow
>> and a lamp-post yesterday!! I'll try tomorrow and see what I can find
>> for a suitable birfday present from me to me!!
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Nemo.
>> When I was 65, I really felt alive!
>> Now I'm 66, I need to learn new tricks!
>
>
> Just don't go to heaven when you're 67!
>
> Belated happy birthday, Nemo!

Fan queue! - And you're sure I'll be going to heaven when the time
comes? I hope you're right.

Nemo

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:36:55 AM3/16/13
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Thanks - but after getting frozed stiff the day before, I stayed put,
ensconced in the nice and warm to recover. The entire icy output of the
Arctic seemed to be blasting down Camden Road!!

Ensconce: A wall-mounted luminaire for hanging chickens from.

Nemo

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:38:22 AM3/16/13
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Haddie taken any or was the tin a dummy like him?

Nemo

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:41:27 AM3/16/13
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You're as young as you feel! . . . . . . . . thinks: Oh, my aching back!

Nemo

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:44:28 AM3/16/13
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On 15/03/2013 15:52, Frank McCoy wrote:
> Sir F.A. Rien <nog...@ttrr.org> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>>>>> know.
>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>>> In the Fall...
>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>

As long as he's not a Charlie who doesn't know to increase his exposure
by a couple of stops in snow.

Nemo

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On 16/03/2013 00:58, Frank McCoy wrote:
> "Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <0tg6k89811q2iahr4...@4ax.com>,
>> Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir F.A. Rien <nog...@ttrr.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>>>>> In the Fall...
>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>> Why so negative?
> The prints is diaries.

Did that hit a *.raw nerve?

Frank McCoy

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Mar 16, 2013, 5:41:05 AM3/16/13
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Pricipalities and kingdoms.

Frank McCoy

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Mar 16, 2013, 5:41:55 AM3/16/13
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It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

Frank McCoy

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Mar 16, 2013, 5:42:43 AM3/16/13
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"William B. (Billby)" <will...@gmail.com> wrote:

Witch won?

Bill Taylor

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Mar 16, 2013, 6:21:06 AM3/16/13
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On Mar 16, 5:26 pm, Nemo <n...@naughtylass.wet> wrote:

> > And here's an even minnier one...     >-:::8
>
> > -- biological bill
>
> Don't tell me David Cameraman and Click! Neg! are going to tax us all
> for being biological now!

David Camisole and Nicked Leg have nothing to do with the case!

(I quote the reply made re QE1 on a horse, by Queen Victoria,
of whom I have a saucy oil painting here, if you're innerested...)

-- Willyum

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 16, 2013, 6:45:29 AM3/16/13
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>>>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>>>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>>>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>>>>>> In the Fall...
>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>>>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>>> Why so negative?
>> That's all that developed.
> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
It should have bit the bucket before the prints came?

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 16, 2013, 6:55:02 AM3/16/13
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>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>>>>>> know.
>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>>>> In the Fall...
>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>> Was that before Ginger bred in the house?
> Witch won?
She had to wizz hard to get to oz.

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 16, 2013, 7:30:53 AM3/16/13
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In article <phf8k8h9rbasaqm5p...@4ax.com>,
Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
> >>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
> >>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
> >>>>>>> know.
> >>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
> >>>>> In the Fall...
> >>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
> >>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
> >> Why so negative?
> >That's all that developed.
> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.

Frank McCoy

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Mar 16, 2013, 10:28:28 AM3/16/13
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"Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:

>In article <phf8k8h9rbasaqm5p...@4ax.com>,
> Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>> >>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>> >>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>> >>>>>>> know.
>> >>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>> >>>>> In the Fall...
>> >>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>> >>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>> >> Why so negative?
>> >That's all that developed.
>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 16, 2013, 11:17:39 AM3/16/13
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>> Although, as Wilfred Pickles used to say on t' telly, "Do you suffer
>> from lumbago or arthritis? It's not much fun, is it?" - before holding
>> up a tin of Fynnon Salts.
>Haddie taken any or was the tin a dummy like him?
It's a mell of a hess we get into as we age.
Do you prefer the alternative?

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 16, 2013, 11:18:11 AM3/16/13
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>>> Ohhh thank you most sincerely for your kind good wishes for my birthday!!
>> Here are some more.
>> Much-older Judith
>You're as young as you feel! . . . . . . . . thinks: Oh, my aching back!
That's about the thighs of it ...

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 16, 2013, 11:18:48 AM3/16/13
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>>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>>>>> In the Fall...
>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>>> Was that before Ginger bred in the house?
>> Witch won?
>She had to wizz hard to get to oz.
Only had to use a half Nelson, Harriet!

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 16, 2013, 11:19:25 AM3/16/13
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>>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>>>>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>>>> Why so negative?
>>> That's all that developed.
>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>It should have bit the bucket before the prints came?
A few Earl their way into fame.

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 16, 2013, 11:20:02 AM3/16/13
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>> >>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>> >>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>> >> Why so negative?
>> >That's all that developed.
>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
A grain assault ... ?

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 16, 2013, 11:21:04 AM3/16/13
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>> Don't tell me David Cameraman and Click! Neg! are going to tax us all
>> for being biological now!
>David Camisole and Nicked Leg have nothing to do with the case!
>(I quote the reply made re QE1 on a horse, by Queen Victoria,
>of whom I have a saucy oil painting here, if you're innerested...)
Jubilee, son, t'cornpone!

Frank McCoy

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"William B. (Billby)" <will...@gmail.com> wrote:

"My name is Ozymandias, King of kings! Look upon my works oh ye
Mighty and despair!"

Ivan D. Reid

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:36:46 PM3/16/13
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 04:41:27 +0000, Nemo <ne...@naughtylass.wet>
wrote in <ZJS0t.60562$oT.3...@fx26.fr7>:

> You're as young as you feel! . . . . . . . . thinks: Oh, my aching back!

You too? Tho' you've got nearly a demi-decade on me...

Then there's the saying that "you're only as old as the woman you
feel," to which I reply, "Woman? What's that?"

As diver Valerie Cropp said,
#If the eel that you feel doesn't feel like an eel,
#That's a moray!

--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

Frank McCoy

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Mar 16, 2013, 12:59:31 PM3/16/13
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Sir F.A. Rien <nog...@ttrr.org> wrote:

I sell U lite!

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 16, 2013, 5:03:42 PM3/16/13
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In article <ib09k8d68db99ng0b...@4ax.com>,
Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:

> "Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <phf8k8h9rbasaqm5p...@4ax.com>,
> > Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
> >> >>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
> >> >>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
> >> >>>>>>> know.
> >> >>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
> >> >>>>> In the Fall...
> >> >>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
> >> >>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
> >> >> Why so negative?
> >> >That's all that developed.
> >> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
> >Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
Now you are being candid.

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 16, 2013, 8:30:40 PM3/16/13
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>>>>>>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>>>>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>>>>>>>>> In the Fall...
>>>>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>>>>>>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>>>>>> Why so negative?
>>>>> That's all that developed.
>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
> Now you are being candid.
It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 16, 2013, 9:32:47 PM3/16/13
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TV's first family in cornflakes...

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 16, 2013, 9:36:14 PM3/16/13
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If that's what people leica.

Frank McCoy

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Mar 16, 2013, 10:16:23 PM3/16/13
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"Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:

>In article <ib09k8d68db99ng0b...@4ax.com>,
> Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> "Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <phf8k8h9rbasaqm5p...@4ax.com>,
>> > Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>> >> >>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>> >> >>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>> >> >>>>>>> know.
>> >> >>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>> >> >>>>> In the Fall...
>> >> >>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>> >> >>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>> >> >> Why so negative?
>> >> >That's all that developed.
>> >> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>> >Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
>Now you are being candid.
Now go ask what the can did.

Frank McCoy

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Mar 16, 2013, 10:16:52 PM3/16/13
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"William B. (Billby)" <will...@gmail.com> wrote:

You have to stand back to see the hole picture.

Bill Taylor

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Mar 17, 2013, 12:51:59 AM3/17/13
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> #If the eel that you feel doesn't feel like an eel,
> #That's a moray!

The version I heard was

"If you swim in the sea
And a fish bites your knee
That's a moray...."

Then there's also...

"If some county you've seen
North-west of Aberdeen
That's a Moray..."

b

Frank McCoy

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Mar 17, 2013, 3:08:42 AM3/17/13
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You guys really ARE asking for it, aren't you:

When the moon hits your eye
Like a big pizza pie
That's amore.

When an eel bites your hand
And that's not what you planned
That's a moray.

When our habits are strange
And our customs deranged
That's our mores.

When your horse munches straw
And the bales total four
That's some more hay.

When your horse munches bales
And the hole in them tells tales
That's some more hay.

When Othello's poor wife
Gets strangled in strife
That's a Moor, eh?

When a Japanese knight
Waves his sword in a fight
That's Samurai.

When your sheep go to graze
In a damp marshy place,
That's a moor, eh?

When your boat comes home fine
And you tied up her line
That's a moor, eh?

When you ace your last tests
Like you did all the rest
That's some more "A"s!

When on Mt. Cook you see
An aborigine,
That's a Maori.

A comedian-ham
With the name Amsterdam
That's a Morey.

When your chocolate graham
Is so full and so crammed
That smore.

When you go to Salt Lake
And you see Mrs. Blake
That's a Mormon -

When your friend in dis sports
Turns out to be a corpse
That's a Morte.

If two grids intersect
and a pattern reflect
that's a moire.

Need the Hindi for "our?"
I can save you an hour...
that's "hamare."

When the trivia game
asks for "Borges' first name"
That's, um, "Jorge."

In the _Post_ there's a Li-
-sa who writes 'bout TV
That's de Moraes
(Lisa de Moraes is a TV writer for _The Washington Post_; we get her
columns on the wire...)

When a former James Bond
Takes a trip 'cross the pond
That's a Moore, eh?

When a Stooge pulls a gun
That can zap Curly's buns,
That's a Moe Ray..

If a fine grade you win
at a college named Bryn
that's a Mawr "A";

When the Duck spells "complain"
with a fine bauxite rain
that's an ore "a".

When you swim in the sea
and an eel bites your knee;
that's a moray.

A New Zealander man,
With a permanent tan,
That's a Maori

When two patterns combine,
in a way serpentine;
that's a moire.

A politician who thinks,
That the'Labor Party stinks,
That's a Tory!

He tells jokes; he's a ham;
his last name's Amsterdam;
that's a Morey.

If "King Kong" had gone flat,
Rent the flick "Vampire Bat";
That's some more Wray.

"When French language you gain
And you come home through Spain
That word's 'rentrer.'

"When the flicks are your thing
And you like the scream queens
That's De Mornay!

"When your eye's got a beef
And med's <i>per oculis</i>
That's a sty made.

"When you walk 'cross a floor
And it's wood door-to-door
That's some parquet!"

If a Canadian Lass
Sees the bottom of her glass
Pour some more ay?

If there's a hole in the ground
In which copper can be found
That's a quarry

If there's frost on the vine
but it's very light and fine
It's just hoarry

If your truck's run amok
Now its stuck in the U.K.
That's a lorry

When you've had quite enough
Of this dumb rhyming stuff
That's "No more!", eh?

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 17, 2013, 6:35:40 AM3/17/13
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In article <3s9ak8dcrjubqlroe...@4ax.com>,
You do need to raise your point of view...

GordonD

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Mar 17, 2013, 6:41:21 AM3/17/13
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"Bill Taylor" <wfc.t...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e262a21f-6c8a-4c1b...@w2g2000pbw.googlegroups.com...
There's a warrior man
Comes from ancient Japan
That's samurai...
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 17, 2013, 10:59:31 AM3/17/13
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>>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>>>>> Was that before Ginger bred in the house?
>>>> Witch won?
>>> She had to wizz hard to get to oz.
>> Only had to use a half Nelson, Harriet!
>TV's first family in cornflakes...
With changing times, it became a Ricky proposition.

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 17, 2013, 11:00:13 AM3/17/13
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>>>>>> Why so negative?
>>>>> That's all that developed.
>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>>> It should have bit the bucket before the prints came?
>> A few Earl their way into fame.
>If that's what people leica.
Nikon to half do, the others just take brownie points.

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 17, 2013, 11:02:18 AM3/17/13
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>> "If some county you've seen
>> North-west of Aberdeen
>> That's a Moray..."

>There's a warrior man
>Comes from ancient Japan
>That's samurai...

When a cookie you crave,
Just become brave
That's s'mores, Eh?

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 17, 2013, 11:03:24 AM3/17/13
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>>>>>>> Why so negative?
>>>>>> That's all that developed.
>>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
>>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
>> Now you are being candid.
>It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
It was learning to focus that opened the aperature.

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 17, 2013, 12:00:55 PM3/17/13
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In article <unmbk8hku92bg01p2...@4ax.com>,
Sir F.A. Rien <nog...@ttrr.org> wrote:

If you really want to expose yourself to that sort of thing.

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 17, 2013, 3:34:32 PM3/17/13
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>>>>>>>>> Why so negative?
>>>>>>>> That's all that developed.
>>>>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>>>>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
>>>>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
>>>> Now you are being candid.
>>> It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
>> It was learning to focus that opened the aperature.
> If you really want to expose yourself to that sort of thing.
Alternatively you could just shutter up.


Frank McCoy

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Mar 17, 2013, 11:49:09 PM3/17/13
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"Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:

>In article <3s9ak8dcrjubqlroe...@4ax.com>,
> Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> "William B. (Billby)" <will...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> know.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>> >>>>>>>>>> In the Fall...
>> >>>>>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>> >>>>>>>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>> >>>>>>> Why so negative?
>> >>>>>> That's all that developed.
>> >>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>> >>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
>> >>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
>> >> Now you are being candid.
>> >It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
>> You have to stand back to see the hole picture.
>You do need to raise your point of view...
Well now!

Frank McCoy

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Mar 17, 2013, 11:49:42 PM3/17/13
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"William B. (Billby)" <will...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh just STOP it you two!

Frank McCoy

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Mar 17, 2013, 11:50:35 PM3/17/13
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Sir F.A. Rien <nog...@ttrr.org> wrote:

No one to tell his troubles to.

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 18, 2013, 6:13:06 AM3/18/13
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In article <2l3dk8pgtmv6rp4vo...@4ax.com>,
Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> know.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
> >> >>>>>>>>>> In the Fall...
> >> >>>>>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
> >> >>>>>>>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
> >> >>>>>>> Why so negative?
> >> >>>>>> That's all that developed.
> >> >>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
> >> >>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
> >> >>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
> >> >> Now you are being candid.
> >> >It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
> >> You have to stand back to see the hole picture.
> >You do need to raise your point of view...
> Well now!
You really got yourself in a hole.

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 18, 2013, 6:14:14 AM3/18/13
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In article <udadnWK92MVJh9vM...@westnet.com.au>,
"William B. (Billby)" <will...@gmail.com> wrote:
You need to focal on the plane facts...

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 18, 2013, 6:14:41 AM3/18/13
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In article <8m3dk8lf9om4igsav...@4ax.com>,
Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Why so negative?
> >>>>>>>>> That's all that developed.
> >>>>>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
> >>>>>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
> >>>>>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
> >>>>> Now you are being candid.
> >>>> It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
> >>> It was learning to focus that opened the aperature.
> >> If you really want to expose yourself to that sort of thing.
> >Alternatively you could just shutter up.
> Oh just STOP it you two!
F*** it way?

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 18, 2013, 11:25:12 AM3/18/13
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>> >>> It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
>> >> It was learning to focus that opened the aperature.
>> > If you really want to expose yourself to that sort of thing.
>> Alternatively you could just shutter up.
>You need to focal on the plane facts...
To be understood, bessler enlarge on that subject

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 18, 2013, 11:26:06 AM3/18/13
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>> >>>> It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
>> >>> It was learning to focus that opened the aperature.
>> >> If you really want to expose yourself to that sort of thing.
>> >Alternatively you could just shutter up.
>> Oh just STOP it you two!
>F*** it way?
Such a microdol, but no class!

Sir F.A. Rien

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Mar 18, 2013, 11:27:07 AM3/18/13
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>> >> >It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
>> >> You have to stand back to see the hole picture.
>> >You do need to raise your point of view...
>> Well now!
>You really got yourself in a hole.
It's the view from a different perspective, correct son?

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 18, 2013, 12:06:14 PM3/18/13
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In article <ggcek81aemjrs9o1g...@4ax.com>,
Sir F.A. Rien <nog...@ttrr.org> wrote:

But things are not looking up when you are looking up.

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 18, 2013, 12:07:12 PM3/18/13
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In article <qecek8h8h7logb7dp...@4ax.com>,
Sir F.A. Rien <nog...@ttrr.org> wrote:
An obscura reference.

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 18, 2013, 12:07:54 PM3/18/13
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In article <pacek8pdi3ltd5ngp...@4ax.com>,
Sir F.A. Rien <nog...@ttrr.org> wrote:
Don't be so positive about the results.

Walter Bushell

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Mar 18, 2013, 12:52:41 PM3/18/13
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In article <esqak8dss368fv8rl...@4ax.com>,
Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:

> If two grids intersect
> and a pattern reflect
> that's a moire.

If two patterns combine,
In a way serpentine,
That's a moire.

--
Gambling with Other People's Money is the meth of the fiscal industry.
me -- in the spirit of Karl and Groucho Marx

Frank McCoy

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Mar 18, 2013, 1:10:04 PM3/18/13
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"Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:

>In article <2l3dk8pgtmv6rp4vo...@4ax.com>,
> Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> know.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> In the Fall...
>> >> >>>>>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>> >> >>>>>>>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>> >> >>>>>>> Why so negative?
>> >> >>>>>> That's all that developed.
>> >> >>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>> >> >>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
>> >> >>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
>> >> >> Now you are being candid.
>> >> >It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
>> >> You have to stand back to see the hole picture.
>> >You do need to raise your point of view...
>> Well now!
>You really got yourself in a hole.
It's a hole-ly owned business.

Frank McCoy

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Mar 18, 2013, 1:10:55 PM3/18/13
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"Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:

>In article <8m3dk8lf9om4igsav...@4ax.com>,
> Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> Why so negative?
>> >>>>>>>>> That's all that developed.
>> >>>>>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>> >>>>>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
>> >>>>>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
>> >>>>> Now you are being candid.
>> >>>> It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
>> >>> It was learning to focus that opened the aperature.
>> >> If you really want to expose yourself to that sort of thing.
>> >Alternatively you could just shutter up.
>> Oh just STOP it you two!
>F*** it way?
Everything is timing.

invalidd

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Mar 18, 2013, 1:50:25 PM3/18/13
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Walter Bushell wrote:

> In article <esqak8dss368fv8rl...@4ax.com>,
> Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>
>
>>If two grids intersect
>>and a pattern reflect
>> that's a moire.
>
>
> If two patterns combine,
> In a way serpentine,
> That's a moire.
>

With grenades and a bow,
And your guns in a row,
That's armoury.

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 18, 2013, 2:05:45 PM3/18/13
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In article <oiiek8tvopcjk2oup...@4ax.com>,
Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> know.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> In the Fall...
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
> >> >> >>>>>>>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
> >> >> >>>>>>> Why so negative?
> >> >> >>>>>> That's all that developed.
> >> >> >>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
> >> >> >>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
> >> >> >>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
> >> >> >> Now you are being candid.
> >> >> >It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
> >> >> You have to stand back to see the hole picture.
> >> >You do need to raise your point of view...
> >> Well now!
> >You really got yourself in a hole.
> It's a hole-ly owned business.
And you sunk everything into it.

Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 18, 2013, 2:06:15 PM3/18/13
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In article <3kiek8hvm9pa1msi6...@4ax.com>,
Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Why so negative?
> >> >>>>>>>>> That's all that developed.
> >> >>>>>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
> >> >>>>>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
> >> >>>>>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
> >> >>>>> Now you are being candid.
> >> >>>> It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
> >> >>> It was learning to focus that opened the aperature.
> >> >> If you really want to expose yourself to that sort of thing.
> >> >Alternatively you could just shutter up.
> >> Oh just STOP it you two!
> >F*** it way?
> Everything is timing.
Thats hardly a news flash.

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 18, 2013, 2:02:45 PM3/18/13
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>>> If two grids intersect
>>> and a pattern reflect
>>> that's a moire.
>>
>> If two patterns combine,
>> In a way serpentine,
>> That's a moire.
>
> With grenades and a bow,
> And your guns in a row,
> That's armoury.

With a 100 pound line,
And a hook that's fine,
That's a moray.


William B. (Billby)

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Mar 18, 2013, 2:28:36 PM3/18/13
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>>>>>>> It's a change to see some cameraderie developing in this thread.
>>>>>> You have to stand back to see the hole picture.
>>>>> You do need to raise your point of view...
>>>> Well now!
>>> You really got yourself in a hole.
>> It's the view from a different perspective, correct son?
> But things are not looking up when you are looking up.
You wont get a sharper image by trying to focus.



Michael N. LeVine

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Mar 18, 2013, 2:53:34 PM3/18/13
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In article <r_qdnUdx0cR4wdrM...@westnet.com.au>,
"William B. (Billby)" <will...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is that according to your focus group?

Frank McCoy

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Mar 18, 2013, 9:23:25 PM3/18/13
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"Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:

>In article <oiiek8tvopcjk2oup...@4ax.com>,
> Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> know.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> In the Fall...
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> At the Photo-shop: "Some day, my prints will come!"
>> >> >> >>>>>>> Why so negative?
>> >> >> >>>>>> That's all that developed.
>> >> >> >>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>> >> >> >>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
>> >> >> >>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
>> >> >> >> Now you are being candid.
>> >> >> >It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
>> >> >> You have to stand back to see the hole picture.
>> >> >You do need to raise your point of view...
>> >> Well now!
>> >You really got yourself in a hole.
>> It's a hole-ly owned business.
>And you sunk everything into it.
That's the drill.

Frank McCoy

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Mar 18, 2013, 9:24:24 PM3/18/13
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"Michael N. LeVine" <mlevine...@redshift.com> wrote:

>In article <3kiek8hvm9pa1msi6...@4ax.com>,
> Frank McCoy <mcc...@millcomm.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Why so negative?
>> >> >>>>>>>>> That's all that developed.
>> >> >>>>>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>> >> >>>>>>> Perhaps you tried to enlarge on it too much.
>> >> >>>>>> The so-called Prince was a small-time crook.
>> >> >>>>> Now you are being candid.
>> >> >>>> It's a change to see some camaraderie developing in this thread.
>> >> >>> It was learning to focus that opened the aperature.
>> >> >> If you really want to expose yourself to that sort of thing.
>> >> >Alternatively you could just shutter up.
>> >> Oh just STOP it you two!
>> >F*** it way?
>> Everything is timing.
>Thats hardly a news flash.
You need to back up ... about fifty miles ... to see the whole
picture.

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 18, 2013, 9:37:40 PM3/18/13
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>>>>>>> Why so negative?
>>>>>> That's all that developed.
>>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>>>> It should have bit the bucket before the prints came?
>>> A few Earl their way into fame.
>> If that's what people leica.
> Nikon to half do, the others just take brownie points.
Next you'll be showing us your sepia prince...


William B. (Billby)

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Mar 18, 2013, 9:45:27 PM3/18/13
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>>>>>>>>> It's a change to see some cameraderie developing in this thread.
>>>>>>>> You have to stand back to see the hole picture.
>>>>>>> You do need to raise your point of view...
>>>>>> Well now!
>>>>> You really got yourself in a hole.
>>>> It's the view from a different perspective, correct son?
>>> But things are not looking up when you are looking up.
>> You wont get a sharper image by trying to focus.
> Is that according to your focus group?
Grope expectations truly focused.

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 18, 2013, 9:52:23 PM3/18/13
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>>>>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>>>>>>> Was that before Ginger bred in the house?
>>>>>> Witch won?
>>>>> She had to wizz hard to get to oz.
>>>> Only had to use a half Nelson, Harriet!
>>> TV's first family in cornflakes...
>> With changing times, it became a Ricky proposition.
> No one to tell his troubles to.
He didn't try telling it on the mountain?

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 18, 2013, 9:59:03 PM3/18/13
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>>>>>>>>>> 66 today, 66 today!
>>>>>>>>> So, you are a mini-beast!
>>>>>>>> Minnie Beast - what fun we used to have with her! She had two backs you
>>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>> She took over from Hump T Dumpty ...
>>>>>> In the Fall...
>>>>> A bit later, when the snow's white.
>>>> Was that before Ginger bred in the house?
>>> Witch won?
>> She had to wizz hard to get to oz.
> "My name is Ozymandias, King of kings! Look upon my works oh ye
> Mighty and despair!"
"The lone and level sands stretch far away" sounds like Oz...

William B. (Billby)

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Mar 18, 2013, 10:00:39 PM3/18/13
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>>>>>>> Why so negative?
>>>>>> That's all that developed.
>>>>> It wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.
>>>> It should have bit the bucket before the prints came?
>>> A few Earl their way into fame.
>> If that's what people leica.
> Nikon to half do, the others just take brownie points.
A few still pin ol' visages on the wall.

Frank McCoy

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Mar 18, 2013, 11:57:34 PM3/18/13
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"William B. (Billby)" <will...@gmail.com> wrote:

He wasn't travelin' that way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0janfcZ8LUw
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