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  <updated>2009-11-08T17:41:45Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Regina Mcclellan</name>
  <email>mcclellanxogreginax...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T17:41:45Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/d3e38e9ae230377e/db1a1ac2fe181317?show_docid=db1a1ac2fe181317</id>
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  <title type="text">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BARN KIT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</title>
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  . &lt;br&gt; ~~~^^^~~~ &lt;br&gt; ============================== ==================== &lt;br&gt; ============================== ==================== &lt;br&gt; ENTER HERE: &lt;br&gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://i-finally-found.cn/pages/barn-kit&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt; &lt;br&gt; ============================== ====================
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  <author>
  <name>Maurice Pearson</name>
  <email>pearsonkysmaurice...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T16:39:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/0017c6fe52c7f3f4/436223db78a08790?show_docid=436223db78a08790</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/0017c6fe52c7f3f4/436223db78a08790?show_docid=436223db78a08790"/>
  <title type="text">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MASS MEDIA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</title>
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  . &lt;br&gt; ~~~^^^~~~ &lt;br&gt; ============================== ==================== &lt;br&gt; ============================== ==================== &lt;br&gt; ENTER HERE: &lt;br&gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://i-finally-found.cn/pages/mass-media&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt; &lt;br&gt; ============================== ====================
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  <author>
  <name>Cheryl BOSTON</name>
  <email>yqemyhu...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T12:45:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/8d3451dbda67793a/7fab395678b0682d?show_docid=7fab395678b0682d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/8d3451dbda67793a/7fab395678b0682d?show_docid=7fab395678b0682d"/>
  <title type="text">~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BRASS ROD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</title>
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  . &lt;br&gt; ~~~^^^~~~ &lt;br&gt; ============================== ==================== &lt;br&gt; ============================== ==================== &lt;br&gt; ENTER HERE: &lt;br&gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://i-finally-found.cn/pages/brass-rod&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt; &lt;br&gt; ============================== ====================
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  <author>
  <name>Jason Carlton</name>
  <email>jwcarl...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T10:11:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/732f1ae943100502/fd11f48283736c53?show_docid=fd11f48283736c53</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Filling remainder of height</title>
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  Thanks for the help, Ben. &lt;br&gt; For anyone reading this in the future, I found a way to render this &lt;br&gt; correctly, using Javascript. I know that&#39;s not exactly appropriate for &lt;br&gt; an HTML newsgroup, but since there doesn&#39;t appear to be a way to do it &lt;br&gt; using pure HTML then I hope you&#39;ll forgive me. &lt;br&gt; I&#39;ve checked this with IE 5.5 - 8.0, and FF 3.5, and it works fine. It
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  <author>
  <name>Ben C</name>
  <email>spams...@spam.eggs</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T09:41:14Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/732f1ae943100502/8e66a49988ca18d3?show_docid=8e66a49988ca18d3</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Filling remainder of height</title>
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  So are you saying we need a table at the bottom, that completely fills &lt;br&gt; the remaining height? &lt;br&gt; I can&#39;t see a way to do that reliably. The only way I can think of &lt;br&gt; still involves using table cells as containers for postioned descendents &lt;br&gt; which doesn&#39;t work in FF. &lt;br&gt; Are these real tables, or just layout tables? If the latter, if you
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  <author>
  <name>Beauregard T. Shagnasty</name>
  <email>a.nony.m...@example.invalid</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T05:44:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/39ce6624cfc7277e/020bb4d72946457b?show_docid=020bb4d72946457b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/39ce6624cfc7277e/020bb4d72946457b?show_docid=020bb4d72946457b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: removing pesky spammers</title>
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  DLU wrote: &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;lol&amp;gt; Save the bandwidth - they don&#39;t care. &lt;br&gt; Most newsreaders: do a H
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  <author>
  <name>DLU</name>
  <email>da...@justthe.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-08T05:26:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/39ce6624cfc7277e/88c80776ee28e539?show_docid=88c80776ee28e539</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: removing pesky spammers</title>
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  kev wrote: &lt;br&gt; Everyone needs to send compliant to ab...@google.com &lt;br&gt; Also, if you have time, send copy to the people whose products are being &lt;br&gt; pirated. It will take a bit of time but they will take action. &lt;br&gt; Companies such as Nike can not afford to let this continue. &lt;br&gt; Unfortunately the spam comes from botnets, but the connections are to
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  <author>
  <name>Nik Coughlin</name>
  <email>nrkn....@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T02:45:15Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: removing pesky spammers</title>
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  Also depends a lot on your Usenet provider. I&#39;m using Eternal September and &lt;br&gt; see very little spam, and what does make it through usually disappears very &lt;br&gt; quickly.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Beauregard T. Shagnasty</name>
  <email>a.nony.m...@example.invalid</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T01:46:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/39ce6624cfc7277e/a0f00cd5a4a33c4e?show_docid=a0f00cd5a4a33c4e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/39ce6624cfc7277e/a0f00cd5a4a33c4e?show_docid=a0f00cd5a4a33c4e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: removing pesky spammers</title>
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  kev wrote: &lt;br&gt; What spam are you talking about? In newsgroups? &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; You&#39;ll need a better newsreader, though. Simply blocking Google Groups &lt;br&gt; kills nearly all the spam. Emphasize *all*. &lt;br&gt; Normally, there is no point in &amp;quot;blocking sender&amp;quot; as the spammers rarely &lt;br&gt; use the same From address more than once, so you end up with a huge list
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  <author>
  <name>alldownunder</name>
  <email>alldownun...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T00:41:06Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/68d2ba05f4722633/16a258376b0aa1b9?show_docid=16a258376b0aa1b9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/68d2ba05f4722633/16a258376b0aa1b9?show_docid=16a258376b0aa1b9"/>
  <title type="text">I think that approach to tables is the most sensible. KISS</title>
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  &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_01.aspx&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>kev</name>
  <email>g...@god.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T01:14:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/39ce6624cfc7277e/0c161bff12a5fbba?show_docid=0c161bff12a5fbba</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/39ce6624cfc7277e/0c161bff12a5fbba?show_docid=0c161bff12a5fbba"/>
  <title type="text">removing pesky spammers</title>
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  so is there a way to block all such posts on mass or is it a case of &lt;br&gt; blocking each one individually, apologies for mine ignorance?
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  <author>
  <name>Neredbojias</name>
  <email>neredboj...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T00:57:10Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/732f1ae943100502/ced1c9b60f5adb48?show_docid=ced1c9b60f5adb48</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/732f1ae943100502/ced1c9b60f5adb48?show_docid=ced1c9b60f5adb48"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Filling remainder of height</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Actually, it isn&#39;t, and the difference is the key to understanding one &lt;br&gt; big problem. &lt;br&gt; Here is where you lose me. AFAICS, the elements are nested in a &lt;br&gt; container and I&#39;m completely baffled as to what you&#39;re really trying to &lt;br&gt; accomplish. &lt;br&gt; Sure.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Adrienne Boswell</name>
  <email>arb...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-08T00:00:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/732f1ae943100502/5f7f5bcc08a3c017?show_docid=5f7f5bcc08a3c017</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/732f1ae943100502/5f7f5bcc08a3c017?show_docid=5f7f5bcc08a3c017"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Filling remainder of height</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Jason Carlton &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;jwcarl...@gmail.com&amp;gt; writing in news:e292e10e-2b7d-4fbc-b174- &lt;br&gt; d2bb191c8...@k19g2000yqc.googl egroups.com: &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrong, &lt;br&gt; standards &lt;br&gt; be &lt;br&gt; buy a &lt;br&gt; DIV is a block level element, and span is an inline element. You would &lt;br&gt; use DIV is a &amp;quot;division&amp;quot; in the structure of your document, say for
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ben C</name>
  <email>spams...@spam.eggs</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-07T23:18:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/732f1ae943100502/7c7d183403931c83?show_docid=7c7d183403931c83</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/732f1ae943100502/7c7d183403931c83?show_docid=7c7d183403931c83"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Filling remainder of height</title>
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  You will get other answers no doubt, but IMO it&#39;s basically just &lt;br&gt; history. All browsers these days that support CSS can render block &lt;br&gt; inside inline (that&#39;s defined in CSS-- see the section on anonymous &lt;br&gt; blocks) so would have absolutely no problem with rendering DIV in SPAN &lt;br&gt; at face-value. &lt;br&gt; Theoretically DIV and SPAN are now born-again &amp;quot;semantic&amp;quot; entities
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ben C</name>
  <email>spams...@spam.eggs</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-07T23:11:35Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/732f1ae943100502/3603ea5034896fdc?show_docid=3603ea5034896fdc</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.html/browse_thread/thread/732f1ae943100502/3603ea5034896fdc?show_docid=3603ea5034896fdc"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Filling remainder of height</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  [...] &lt;br&gt; HTML has its own rules that are independent of CSS. In HTML, you can&#39;t &lt;br&gt; put something that&#39;s &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (a DIV is block in the HTML sense _even if &lt;br&gt; you make it display: inline_) inside something that&#39;s &amp;quot;inline&amp;quot; (a SPAN &lt;br&gt; is inline in the HTML sense even if it&#39;s display: block). &lt;br&gt; Break those rules and you get validation errors, and, worse, browsers
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