American HTML instead of British HTML
Thomas Ford
spelt in American English and not British English.
For example, when changing the colour of text I would have to use this
tag:
<FONT COLOR="aqua">Aqua </FONT><FONT COLO="blue">Blue </FONT>
Notice the word spelt 'color' and not 'colour'?
Is there a way to write HTML correctly, but spelt in my language and
not in American?
Thomas Ford
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Johnnie ego
render. The Net and HTML came from our cousins over the water, so we play by
their rules to an extent. The real pisser with all this is when you find
yourself spelling in US "English" in everyday life.
John
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Jose
By the Way ,
<strong>"Happy 4th of July "</strong>
Jose
ps. Put some beef on the Bar b and enjoy the 4th of July with us, Yanks...
Hot 'n' Cold 2000
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what I thought was mispelling "recognise" (or some word that we spell with a
Z). Boy, did I catch it for that...and rightfully so!
Anyway, my new boss is from Britain and I always spell words "English"
correct. I think I score extra points with her for doing that too. : )
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Johnnie ego wrote in message <7lnujr$ql2$1...@starburst.uk.insnet.net>...
>Um, no. HTML is a mark up language, and therefore needs to be correct to
>render. The Net and HTML came from our cousins over the water, so we play
by
>their rules to an extent. The real pisser with all this is when you find
>yourself spelling in US "English" in everyday life.
>
>John
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"let's grill out". Also, there is the tailgate version of a bar-b-que...you
haven't lived until you've had a "tailgate party".
I think it's the Aussies who say "BarB".
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Jose wrote in message ...
>Isn't that a b*tch. , these Damn Yanks, chap.
>
>By the Way ,
>
><strong>"Happy 4th of July "</strong>
>
>Jose
>
>ps. Put some beef on the Bar b and enjoy the 4th of July with us, Yanks...
>
>
>
>
>
Hywel Jenkins
> Um, no. HTML is a mark up language, and therefore needs to be correct to
> render. The Net and HTML came from our cousins over the water, so we play by
> their rules to an extent. The real pisser with all this is when you find
> yourself spelling in US "English" in everyday life.
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> yeah and what about potwa? (jamaican english)
> why cant i write <iyna bumbaclot bigga one> instead of <bold>
> there are hundreds of petty little dialects like "british english"
What's 'British English'? I know what 'American English' is, but surely
'English' is what we speak in 'Britain', simply because that's where
England is?
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That damn Hippie
>there are hundreds of petty little dialects like "british english" around
>but of course its spelled in american because it was made by americans and
>american english is the single most predominant language in the world and
>if your gonna use computers you might as well learn some proper english
>chap.
British English is not a Dialect it is a Language. As for proper
English...please.. well why do ya think it's called English and not
American. Americans have never used proper english. Our language is
made up of words we have borrowed and adopted from several languages
and then basterdized them to fit us. As for Colour vs. color we have a
lazy american named Webster to think for that. Check this for more
info though.
http://www.americansc.org.uk/berube.htm
As for most predominant language try Mandarin Chinese, English is
second and that includes both British and American among others.
But hey if ya really cared ya would have done a little research but
your just another lazy american. So from one lazy american to another
think before you speak.
Now relax and go blow up a piece of this land we stole it is the 4th
of July ya know!
That damn Hippie
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: It's bar-b-que or grill...as in "let's have a bar-b-que" or "cook-out" or
Brian
invented the internet. We must recall who/how our code is being read.
Mostly, it is being read with IE or Netscape. Both are American companies
and will likely continue to have their browsers read Americanized English.
No offense meant to anyone. I'm not sure why this ended up in a cultural
war. It is what it is.
Thomas Ford wrote in message <37807ef...@news.freeserve.net>...
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Yeah, but since we have unlimited phone time with one charge, we took
it over. Blame it on your phone system, cuz. (-;
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mistaken?
Hywel Jenkins <use...@webdude.freeserve.co.uk.CutThis> wrote in message
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> In article <7lnujr$ql2$1...@starburst.uk.insnet.net>, Johnnie ego said...
> > Um, no. HTML is a mark up language, and therefore needs to be correct to
> > render. The Net and HTML came from our cousins over the water, so we
play by
> > their rules to an extent. The real pisser with all this is when you find
> > yourself spelling in US "English" in everyday life.
> HTML was invented by an Englishman.
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> http://hyweljenkins.com/
Roving Reporter
But does that mean I get points if I move over to Canada, for example?
(-:
On Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:23:45 -0700, "Tina - White Lake Web"
<wl...@webshore.net> scribbled:
>You know what? A long time ago, I semi-flamed someone in a newsgroup for,
>what I thought was mispelling "recognise" (or some word that we spell with a
>Z). Boy, did I catch it for that...and rightfully so!
>
>Anyway, my new boss is from Britain and I always spell words "English"
>correct. I think I score extra points with her for doing that too. : )
>Johnnie ego wrote in message <7lnujr$ql2$1...@starburst.uk.insnet.net>...
>>Um, no. HTML is a mark up language, and therefore needs to be correct to
>>render. The Net and HTML came from our cousins over the water, so we play
>by
>>their rules to an extent. The real pisser with all this is when you find
>>yourself spelling in US "English" in everyday life.
>>
>>John
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>>Thomas Ford <tho...@thomasford.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:37807ef...@news.freeserve.net...
>>> I've noticed that when using HTML I have to write some tags with words
>>> spelt in American English and not British English.
>>>
>>> For example, when changing the colour of text I would have to use this
>>> tag:
>>>
>>> <FONT COLOR="aqua">Aqua </FONT><FONT COLO="blue">Blue </FONT>
>>>
>>> Notice the word spelt 'color' and not 'colour'?
>>>
>>> Is there a way to write HTML correctly, but spelt in my language and
>>> not in American?
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jim wrote in message <377F8F69...@madmail.com>...
>yeah and what about potwa? (jamaican english)
>why cant i write <iyna bumbaclot bigga one> instead of <bold>
>there are hundreds of petty little dialects like "british english" around
>but of course its spelled in american because it was made by americans and
>american english is the single most predominant language in the world and
>if your gonna use computers you might as well learn some proper english
>chap.
>
>
>Thomas Ford wrote:
>
>> I've noticed that when using HTML I have to write some tags with words
>> spelt in American English and not British English.
>>
>> For example, when changing the colour of text I would have to use this
>> tag:
>>
>> <FONT COLOR="aqua">Aqua </FONT><FONT COLO="blue">Blue </FONT>
>>
>> Notice the word spelt 'color' and not 'colour'?
>>
>> Is there a way to write HTML correctly, but spelt in my language and
>> not in American?
>>
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The F-Word Boy wrote in message <377fa...@news1.mcmail.com>...
>wasn't the net invented or conceived by englishmen or am i terribly
>mistaken?
>
>Hywel Jenkins <use...@webdude.freeserve.co.uk.CutThis> wrote in message
>news:MPG.11e9a8c2f...@news.freeserve.net...
>> In article <7lnujr$ql2$1...@starburst.uk.insnet.net>, Johnnie ego said...
>> > Um, no. HTML is a mark up language, and therefore needs to be correct
to
>> > render. The Net and HTML came from our cousins over the water, so we
>play by
>> > their rules to an extent. The real pisser with all this is when you
find
>> > yourself spelling in US "English" in everyday life.
Lewis... Weborium... Me
>mistaken?
Here are, according to my sources, who invented HTML and the 'Net. Maybe
someone can find out their nationality:
HTML:
Tim Berners-Lee
The Net:
"..ARPA decided to build a computer network based on the research of a computer
scientist for the Rand Corp., Paul Baran. Baran developed the key
concept underlying the modern Internet -- a computer network that had no
central authority, and which distributed data in 'packets.'"
.
.
.
.
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Jose
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Jose
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Jose
Declaration of Independence and we are rolling on why HTML should be British
English versus US English. People, ask the person that created the markup
Language (html).. if you can create pages, don't worry about the spelling
and how the words contradict your language written or spoken, just use what
they created.. And by the way if ya want you could use XML or DHTML and
create you own tags..
Jose
PS still sober waiting on beer, Grill to get hot, and fireworks..
Daniel Vesma
Daniel Vesma
Wasn't that funny. I nearly died laughing.
Daniel Vesma
>'English' is what we speak in 'Britain', simply because that's where
>England is?
Yeah, it's "The Queens English".
Rick Stricker
BTW, using your logic, a French developer would be expected to
use French-language code... not.
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Daniel Vesma wrote in message <7loji0$pm9$6...@gxsn.com>...
>>ROFLMFAO
>
>
>ditto.
Rick Stricker
Queens, NYC where I grew up.
The Queen's English would be what they speak in England...
well, maybe not throughout England; ever listen to a hard-core
Cockney? Another world altogether, just like Queens English.
;-)
Daniel Vesma wrote in message <7lojhu$pm9$5...@gxsn.com>...
>>What's 'British English'? I know what 'American English' is, but surely
>>'English' is what we speak in 'Britain', simply because that's where
>>England is?
>
>
>Yeah, it's "The Queens English".
>
Rick Stricker
English comes from a variety of sources...
That damn Hippie wrote in message <3781bc11.135407913@news-server>...
>On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 01:44:25 +0900, jim <cu...@madmail.com> wrote:
>
>>there are hundreds of petty little dialects like "british english" around
>>but of course its spelled in american because it was made by americans and
>>american english is the single most predominant language in the world and
>>if your gonna use computers you might as well learn some proper english
>>chap.
>
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Jose <jo...@NOThome.com> wrote in message
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| ROFLMFAO
|
| Jose
Jukka Korpela
message <37807ef...@news.freeserve.net>:
>I've noticed that when using HTML I have to write some tags with words
>spelt in American English and not British English.
That is correct, in the sense that some attribute names were taken
from US English rather than British English. From the formal
viewpoint, an attribute name like COLOR is just a string of alphabetic
characters. The names were chosen to give people a hint, so that the
meaning of a word in everyday English might give a rough idea of the
meaning in HTML (though e.g. tag names like HR or B aren't
particularly intuitive, not to mention the attribute HREF!).
>Is there a way to write HTML correctly, but spelt in my language and
>not in American?
Not the way you'd like, since HTML has fixed syntax. (If I remember
correctly, the ISO project on defining an HTML _standard_ contained
COLOR and COLOUR as alternatives, but that project as a whole is (or
hopefully _was_) an exercise in futility.)
You could write COLOUR and use a preprocessor to change all
occurrences of COLOUR to COLOR. But I don't think that would be
useful. It's more useful not to use the FONT tag at all. :-)
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jim
why cant i write <iyna bumbaclot bigga one> instead of <bold>
but of course its spelled in american because it was made by americans and
american english is the single most predominant language in the world and
if your gonna use computers you might as well learn some proper english
chap.
Thomas Ford wrote:
> I've noticed that when using HTML I have to write some tags with words
> spelt in American English and not British English.
>
> For example, when changing the colour of text I would have to use this
> tag:
>
> <FONT COLOR="aqua">Aqua </FONT><FONT COLO="blue">Blue </FONT>
>
> Notice the word spelt 'color' and not 'colour'?
>
> Is there a way to write HTML correctly, but spelt in my language and
> not in American?
>
re...@allymcbeal.freeuk.com
> Um, no. HTML is a mark up language, and therefore needs to be correct
to
> render. The Net and HTML came from our cousins over the water, so we
play by
> their rules to an extent. The real pisser with all this is when you
find
> yourself spelling in US "English" in everyday life.
Imagine being a German web designer! Its the same with programming
languages, you can't change IF to WENN or SI in different (foreign)
languages.
Daniel Rees
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Jose
Jose
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I'm still stumbling with <center></centre>
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>well, maybe not throughout England; ever listen to a hard-core
>Cockney? Another world altogether, just like Queens English.
I have listed to cockney me old mucker. I need a cup of cha, I'll have to go
down the apples-and-pairs to the kitchen.
Roving Reporter
<daniel...@thewebtree.com> scribbled:
>>The Queen's English would be what they speak in England...
>>well, maybe not throughout England; ever listen to a hard-core
>>Cockney? Another world altogether, just like Queens English.
>
>I have listed to cockney me old mucker. I need a cup of cha, I'll have to go
>down the apples-and-pairs to the kitchen.
Heh, sounds like it'd be fun to read a book written that way. 'Course
then you'd have to include a glossary for the unwary, similar to those
for reading some of the works of Robert Louis Stevenson with all the
Scottish lingo...but I'd love to read it. (-:
jim
> English...please.. well why do ya think it's called English and not
> American. Americans have never used proper english.
isn't this a laugh! one little puny poverty stricken country with a measly
little populace is claiming to be the only ones speaking "proper english" give
it up man.
go to a foreign country and ask someone to spell jail are they going to write
'gaol' ? i think not! will they call a truck a lorry?
will the call an elevator a lift? and i could go on and on.
english has always been an evoluting language it has never been static so
proper english would not be proper just because a bunch of stuffys in england
decided they would make its so.
> As for most predominant language try Mandarin Chinese, English is second and
> that includes both British and American among others.
i said "predominant" if you think that manderanine Chinese (just one of the
hundreds of dialects spoken in china) has more predominance world wide than
english, then your more mistaken then i thought.
> But hey if ya really cared ya would have done a little research but
> your just another lazy american. So from one lazy american to another
> think before you speak.
wow you couldn't be wronger! i grew up on the fucking queens english.
studied and taught the history of the english language ( and other languages)
extensively.
heres something you may not of known:
that american actors have better pronunciation when it comes to Shakespeare
then british actors and that they way english is spoken in america is actually
closer to the way it was spoken through out england during that time then the
way it is spoken there now.
jim
> where England is?
yes now you keep telling yourself that.
its sort of like african is what we speak in africa right?
jim
net!
Alex Brown
> english has always been an evoluting language
evolving.
A.
Jim Ley
I think Hywel's argument is that British English is an oxymoron,
whilst American English, or Jamaican English defines the dialects
spoken in those countries, British English isn't a Dialect, (although
there are other Dialects spoken within England and Britain)
Jim.
VSG
jim <cu...@madmail.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
3780799D...@madmail.com...
> > British English is not a Dialect it is a Language. As for proper
> > English...please.. well why do ya think it's called English and not
> > American. Americans have never used proper english.
>
> isn't this a laugh! one little puny poverty stricken country with a measly
> little populace is claiming to be the only ones speaking "proper english" give
> it up man.
Ahhh. The blinkered and ignorant stereotype commonly defining an American is
shining through here folks :-)
The facts show otherwise Jim.. Unemployment in the UK is one of the lowest in
Europe and Brits now have running water and electricity lol. .oO(poor ignorant
fool)
> english has always been an evoluting language it has never been static so
> proper english would not be proper just because a bunch of stuffys in england
> decided they would make its so.
>
Stuffy English huh? lol. How many more stereotypes do you think his ignorance
will grasp onto folks?
I say.. I think its time for my cup of tea what?
> > But hey if ya really cared ya would have done a little research but
> > your just another lazy american. So from one lazy american to another
> > think before you speak.
>
> wow you couldn't be wronger!
"wronger"? is that a bastardiZation of English? An Americanism?
i grew up on the fucking queens english.
So i see :-)
> studied and taught the history of the english language ( and other languages)
> extensively.
hmmmm
> heres something you may not of known:
> that american actors have better pronunciation when it comes to Shakespeare
> then british actors and that they way english is spoken in america is actually
> closer to the way it was spoken through out england during that time then the
> way it is spoken there now.
>
Says who? Hollywood?
Alan
Jim Ley
>
>jim <cu...@madmail.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
>3780799D...@madmail.com...
>> > British English is not a Dialect it is a Language. As for proper
>> > English...please.. well why do ya think it's called English and not
>> > American. Americans have never used proper english.
>>
>> isn't this a laugh! one little puny poverty stricken country with a measly
>> little populace is claiming to be the only ones speaking "proper english" give
>> it up man.
>
>Ahhh. The blinkered and ignorant stereotype commonly defining an American is
>shining through here folks :-)
>
>The facts show otherwise Jim.. Unemployment in the UK is one of the lowest in
>Europe and Brits now have running water and electricity lol. .oO(poor ignorant
>fool)
Yeah it's just a shame that most of the running water is coming out of
the clouds.... :)
Jim.
Daniel Vesma
>the clouds.... :)
And in the summer we're not allowed to use hose pipes :)
Mind you, are films are better than yours. So is our music, not to mention
webdesign.
The site for Mercedes Benz UK is far better than it is for the states.
Our cars are better, even if the companies are owned by foreigners.
Our newspaper are better. We actuarially get news from all around the world.
In the states, if it isn't about the USA, it doesn't get a mention. How much
did you hear about the London bombing campaign recently? I have an aunt in
San Diego, from what she's told me, they didn't even make the paper.
Or politics is better, even if we don't have a constitution. I've watched
the debates on US TV, they stink. It's so stiff and lifeless.
We don't sue each other half as much.
OK, that's my xenophobia out for the day. Don't get me wrong, I'd give my
right foot to live in the states, the weather is so nice and things are so
cheap.
jim
jim
William G. Schlake
<daniel...@thewebtree.com> wrote:
>>The Queen's English would be what they speak in England...
>>well, maybe not throughout England; ever listen to a hard-core
>>Cockney? Another world altogether, just like Queens English.
Jolly good.
Just to show how much English has changed over the centuries, take a
look at the following passages from different bibles over the course
of roughly 600 years. Note: what follows is correct spelling for the
time period and not typos.
The 23rd Psalm as it evolved:
The Wycliffite Bible ca. 1382
The Lord gouereneth me, and no thing to me shal lacke; in the place of
leswe where he me ful sette.
The Great Bible ca. 1539
The Lorde in my shepherde, therfore can I lack nothyng. He shall fede
me in a grene pasture.
The King James ca. 1611
The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie
downe in greene pastures.
The Revised Standard ca. 1946
The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want; he makes me lie down in
green pastures.
Daniel Vesma
then?
Oh yes :)
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I think the school shootings in the US have proved once and for all that
guns in the public-domain are bad news.
The F-Word Boy
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>
> wow you couldn't be wronger! i grew up on the fucking queens english.
Johnnie ego
> wow you couldn't be wronger! i grew up on the fucking queens english.
Now, I've heard of the virgin Queen (Elizabeth I), but which was the
"fucking Queen"?
John
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<ROFLMFAO>.
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http://users.castel.nl/~schic02
Jose <jo...@NOThome.com> wrote in message
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| Rolling On Floor Laughing My fucking Ass Off
| Jose
| Tjako van Schie <tjakov...@castel.nl> wrote in message
| news:7lomer$5e1$1...@news.castel.nl...
| > ehh excuse me, but what is ROFLMFAO ?
Hywel Jenkins
> > but surely 'English' is what we speak in 'Britain', simply because that's
> > where England is?
>
> yes now you keep telling yourself that.
> its sort of like african is what we speak in africa right?
Different argument. Africa is made up of many countries, what with it
being a continent and all. This is what you've just said: 'European is
what we speak in Europe'. I said English originated in England,
therefore the language spoken in England, UK, is 'English', not 'British
English' or 'World English' (as Mr. Gates would have us believe).
--
Hywel
http://hyweljenkins.com/
Daniel Vesma
>(or is it English? no must be Australian!)
>translation of
><ROFLMFAO>.
It certainly wasn't English. We spell it arse. Ass is a donkey.
Hywel Jenkins
> > British English is not a Dialect it is a Language. As for proper
> > English...please.. well why do ya think it's called English and not
> > American. Americans have never used proper english.
>
> isn't this a laugh! one little puny poverty stricken country with a measly
> little populace is claiming to be the only ones speaking "proper english" give
> it up man.
Surely, as English is from England, English people can be the only people
in the world that speak 'proper English'?
Well, that's Americans for you. Does it surprise you that the general
world impression of Americans is that they're a nation of pseudo-
intellectuals that desperately need to stamp their marks on the world by
parading their arrogance and ignorance for rest of us? There are
exceptions, I know.
> go to a foreign country and ask someone to spell jail are they going to write
> 'gaol' ? i think not! will they call a truck a lorry?
> will the call an elevator a lift? and i could go on and on.
> english has always been an evoluting language it has never been static so
> proper english would not be proper just because a bunch of stuffys in england
> decided they would make its so.
Of course not, dimwit, they have words for those things in their own
languages. Duh!
> > As for most predominant language try Mandarin Chinese, English is second and
> > that includes both British and American among others.
>
> i said "predominant" if you think that manderanine Chinese (just one of the
> hundreds of dialects spoken in china) has more predominance world wide than
> english, then your more mistaken then i thought.
Actually, in 1997 Mandarin Chinese was spoken by the majority of the
world, somewhere in the region of 800,000,000 people.
> wow you couldn't be wronger! i grew up on the fucking queens english.
> studied and taught the history of the english language ( and other languages)
> extensively.
Should have paid more attention in grammar class, then, and perhaps done
a little better in punctuation, too.
> heres something you may not of known:
> that american actors have better pronunciation when it comes to Shakespeare
> then british actors and that they way english is spoken in america is actually
> closer to the way it was spoken through out england during that time then the
> way it is spoken there now.
Rubbish, absolute garbage, complete trash, in fact.
--
Hywel
http://hyweljenkins.com/
Hywel Jenkins
said...
> On Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:22:50 +0100,
> use...@webdude.freeserve.co.uk.CutThis (Hywel Jenkins) scribbled:
> >In article <7lnujr$ql2$1...@starburst.uk.insnet.net>, Johnnie ego said...
> >> Um, no. HTML is a mark up language, and therefore needs to be correct to
> >> render. The Net and HTML came from our cousins over the water, so we play by
> >> their rules to an extent. The real pisser with all this is when you find
> >> yourself spelling in US "English" in everyday life.
>
> it over. Blame it on your phone system, cuz. (-;
Oh, so that's why there are more W3C offices in France that there are in
the US. Makes sense.
--
Hywel
http://hyweljenkins.com/
Hywel Jenkins
> And here I thought the Queens English was what they spoke in
> Queens, NYC where I grew up.
Nope, that's "Queens' English", Daniel said "Queen's English". Big
difference!
--
Hywel
http://hyweljenkins.com/
Hywel Jenkins
> On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 09:53:25 +0100, "Daniel Vesma"
> >>The Queen's English would be what they speak in England...
> >>well, maybe not throughout England; ever listen to a hard-core
> >>Cockney? Another world altogether, just like Queens English.
> >
> >down the apples-and-pairs to the kitchen.
>
> Heh, sounds like it'd be fun to read a book written that way. 'Course
> then you'd have to include a glossary for the unwary, similar to those
> for reading some of the works of Robert Louis Stevenson with all the
> Scottish lingo...but I'd love to read it. (-:
http://rinkworks.com/dialect/
It's a right laugh.
--
Hywel
http://hyweljenkins.com/
Hywel Jenkins
> >Yeah it's just a shame that most of the running water is coming out of
> >the clouds.... :)
>
>
> And in the summer we're not allowed to use hose pipes :)
>
> Mind you, are films are better than yours. So is our music, not to mention
> webdesign.
>
> The site for Mercedes Benz UK is far better than it is for the states.
>
> Our cars are better, even if the companies are owned by foreigners.
>
> Our newspaper are better. We actuarially get news from all around the world.
> In the states, if it isn't about the USA, it doesn't get a mention. How much
> did you hear about the London bombing campaign recently? I have an aunt in
> San Diego, from what she's told me, they didn't even make the paper.
>
> Or politics is better, even if we don't have a constitution. I've watched
> the debates on US TV, they stink. It's so stiff and lifeless.
>
> We don't sue each other half as much.
>
> OK, that's my xenophobia out for the day. Don't get me wrong, I'd give my
> right foot to live in the states, the weather is so nice and things are so
> cheap.
because they're ugly and smell.
--
Hywel
http://hyweljenkins.com/
Daniel Vesma
>because they're ugly and smell.
Yup, and Latvians are short, fat and drink to much. I do hope you know my
comments were meant in jest.
holygoat
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>
> Or politics is better, even if we don't have a constitution. I've watched
> the debates on US TV, they stink. It's so stiff and lifeless.
Yeah, but you still ended up with a British Bill Clinton (policy-wise, that
is).
> We don't sue each other half as much.
God Bless The Queen!
HG
holygoat
just fine :-)
HG
Tjako van Schie <tjakov...@castel.nl> wrote in message
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> Well, over here in Holland we have Dutch HTML:)
>
> <Holland Text Markup Language>
> <Head><Meta name="content" description="empty">
> </Head>
> <Body align="soft" valign="high" border="limitless"
background="stoned.gif">
> <tulip color="#abcdef"><mills height="xyz"><cheese src="edam"
> taste="excellent"></cheese></mills><tulip>
> <footer>Ajax</footer>
> </body>
> </Holland Text Markup Language>
>
> ;0)
Tags
When you program in asm, do you complain that "JMP" isn't a real word? When
you read documentation, do you get angry because "foo" doesn't exist? No.
You get on with it. It's the same with HTML, it's just a language.
Anyway, no browser would read the code correctly.
--
Tags
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html help - http://www.limitwebdesign.co.uk/htmlhelp/
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"I watched the stars crash in the sea"
Thomas Ford wrote in message <37807ef...@news.freeserve.net>...
>I've noticed that when using HTML I have to write some tags with words
>spelt in American English and not British English.
>
>For example, when changing the colour of text I would have to use this
>tag:
>
><FONT COLOR="aqua">Aqua </FONT><FONT COLO="blue">Blue </FONT>
>
>Notice the word spelt 'color' and not 'colour'?
>
>Is there a way to write HTML correctly, but spelt in my language and
>not in American?
>
>Thomas Ford
>
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Roving Reporter
use...@webdude.freeserve.co.uk.CutThis (Hywel Jenkins) scribbled:
>In article <7lq7nd$hn9$1...@gxsn.com>, Daniel Vesma said...
>> >Yeah it's just a shame that most of the running water is coming out of
>> >the clouds.... :)
>>
>> And in the summer we're not allowed to use hose pipes :)
??? You mean rubber water hoses?
>> Our newspaper are better. We actuarially get news from all around the world.
>> In the states, if it isn't about the USA, it doesn't get a mention. How much
>> did you hear about the London bombing campaign recently? I have an aunt in
>> San Diego, from what she's told me, they didn't even make the paper.
Hey, I heard about it online...because a gay bar was hit, among
others, and I get news about that in my e-mail.
>> Or politics is better, even if we don't have a constitution. I've watched
>> the debates on US TV, they stink. It's so stiff and lifeless.
Agreed.
>> We don't sue each other half as much.
My mom used to be a legal secretary. Now my brother's a lawyer. (-:
>> OK, that's my xenophobia out for the day. Don't get me wrong, I'd give my
>> right foot to live in the states, the weather is so nice and things are so
>> cheap.
>Next week on alt.html: Daniel Vesma on 'French people are crap at rugby
>because they're ugly and smell.
LOL
--
Therese Shellabarger - tls...@concentric.net
http://www.concentric.net/~tlshell/ Shalom chaverot!
Roving Reporter
use...@webdude.freeserve.co.uk.CutThis (Hywel Jenkins) scribbled:
>In article <377fae8b...@news.concentric.net>, Roving Reporter
>said...
>> On Sun, 4 Jul 1999 18:22:50 +0100,
>> use...@webdude.freeserve.co.uk.CutThis (Hywel Jenkins) scribbled:
>> >In article <7lnujr$ql2$1...@starburst.uk.insnet.net>, Johnnie ego said...
>> >> Um, no. HTML is a mark up language, and therefore needs to be correct to
>> >> render. The Net and HTML came from our cousins over the water, so we play by
>> >> their rules to an extent. The real pisser with all this is when you find
>> >> yourself spelling in US "English" in everyday life.
>> >HTML was invented by an Englishman.
>>
>> Yeah, but since we have unlimited phone time with one charge, we took
>> it over. Blame it on your phone system, cuz. (-;
>Oh, so that's why there are more W3C offices in France that there are in
>the US. Makes sense.
No, that's so you can learn how to do it. See, the big thing now in
the U.S. is "teach them to be independent." (-;
Roving Reporter
use...@webdude.freeserve.co.uk.CutThis (Hywel Jenkins) scribbled:
>In article <3780799D...@madmail.com>, jim said...
>> heres something you may not of known:
>> that american actors have better pronunciation when it comes to Shakespeare
>> then british actors and that they way english is spoken in america is actually
>> closer to the way it was spoken through out england during that time then the
>> way it is spoken there now.
>Rubbish, absolute garbage, complete trash, in fact.
Probably talking about eastern U.S. on the seaboard, I doubt this
would be true of 100% of the U.S.
BTW, the "American" English you hear on TV/Radio from the U.S. is
generally the California dialect of it. There are several regional
variations on the east, the south, the north, midwest, southwest, and
of course, west. Some of them are more pronounced than others, and
some are sort of pidgins of English and other languages, as for
example: Spanglish and Creole.
Guy Incognito
>isn't this a laugh! one little puny poverty stricken country with a measly
>little populace is claiming to be the only ones speaking "proper english" give
>it up man.
>go to a foreign country and ask someone to spell jail are they going to write
<snip>
</lurk>
Somebody needs a hug.
<lurk>
--
"It's too bad that whole families have to be
torn apart by something as simple as wild dogs."
- Jack Handey
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Tjako van Schie
Anyway TULIP computer systems are bad....
--http://users.castel.nl/~schic02 Feel free to critisize my site! Written in
H<olland>TML with English contents !
holygoat <holy...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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holygoat
most areas from the mid-west to the Pacific speak in this accent), which is
probably the closest to phonetically correct--at least in American
dictionaries.
HG
Roving Reporter <tls...@concentric.net> wrote in message
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Tom Coates
British English parted company a while after Shakespeare, and there are
certainly some elements of the language that have been abandoned by the
British but retained by Americans.
On the other hand, a lot of the American accent has been influenced by the
other nationalities that emigrated to America as well.
This whole thread is weird though. It is strange to find yourself as a
British person being forced to code in American English. <center> really
grates for me. But then, think how much worse it would be if you were not
from an English speaking background at all...
Michael W. Rosa
On Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:05:44 +0200, "Tjako van Schie"
<tjakov...@castel.nl> wrote:
>Well, over here in Holland we have Dutch HTML:)
>
><Holland Text Markup Language>
><Head><Meta name="content" description="empty">
></Head>
><Body align="soft" valign="high" border="limitless" background="stoned.gif">
><tulip color="#abcdef"><mills height="xyz"><cheese src="edam"
>taste="excellent"></cheese></mills><tulip>
><footer>Ajax</footer>
></body>
></Holland Text Markup Language>
>
>;0)
Michael W. Rosa
<STONED HOLLAND TEXT MARKUP LANGUAGE>
<BODY>
<TULIP Size="5 grams">
<CANNABIS Type="NORTHERN LIGHTS #5 X HAZEĊ½" Price="$7.50/gram">
Very good stuff (I guess)
</CANNABIS>
</TULIP>
<ADDRESS>
A coffee shop near you. <A
HREF="http://www.sensiseeds.com">http://www.sensiseeds.com</A>
</ADDRESS>
</BODY>
</STONED HOLLAND TEXT MARKUP LANGUAGE>
L8Rz,
XiPHiAS '99/NL-XWD
SH...@xiphias.hypermart.net
http://xiphias.webjump.com
Michael W. Rosa
This is not always true...
There is a dutch version of C++ which is completely in dutch
So instead of
IF i=2 THEN
bla bla bla
ELSE
bla bla bla
the dutch version is
ALS i=2 DAN
bla bla bla
ANDERS
bla bla bla
Looks weird and I think they don't even make ik any more.. But a
couple af years ago I came across the dutch version and it is realy
weird.
Grtz,
Michael
On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 08:12:34 GMT, re...@allymcbeal.freeuk.com wrote:
>
>
>> Um, no. HTML is a mark up language, and therefore needs to be correct
>to
>> render. The Net and HTML came from our cousins over the water, so we
>play by
>> their rules to an extent. The real pisser with all this is when you
>find
>> yourself spelling in US "English" in everyday life.
>
>Imagine being a German web designer! Its the same with programming
>languages, you can't change IF to WENN or SI in different (foreign)
>languages.
>
>Daniel Rees
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Tina - White Lake Web
isn't like a California accent at all. Ever see the movie Fargo? Thaat's
mid-westrn fir ya. : )
Unless you're talking a California surfer-dude, California is probably the
clearest and blandest accent (or lack of) in the US.
--
Tina Peters
White Lake Web
Montague, Michigan USA
Site design, graphics, hosting and more!
tina@whitewakeweb"DOT"com
holygoat wrote in message <7lsa8t$ptg$1...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>California dialect??? I think it's more the mid-western accent (although
>most areas from the mid-west to the Pacific speak in this accent), which is
>probably the closest to phonetically correct--at least in American
>dictionaries.
>
>HG
>
Tim Burch
this little 'American vs. British' thing was dated 04, July. I think
that
date has something to do with another small argument between England and
the Colonies.
--
Tim
It's better to remain silent and thought a fool,
rather than open you mouth and remove all doubt.
William G. Schlake
<holy...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Daniel Vesma <daniel...@thewebtree.com> wrote in message
>news:7lq7nd$hn9$1...@gxsn.com...
>>
>> Or politics is better, even if we don't have a constitution. I've watched
>> the debates on US TV, they stink. It's so stiff and lifeless.
>
>Yeah, but you still ended up with a British Bill Clinton (policy-wise, that
>is).
>
>> We don't sue each other half as much.
>
>God Bless The Queen!
>
>HG
>
Yea right...I've seen the clowns in your House of Commons. They jump
up and down like a jack-in-the-box while many in the audience yell
here, here or some other typically stupid Britsh jibberish. Nothing
but lots of noise, finger pointing; kid stuff. Hey, sounds like CIWAH.
VSG
> >
>
> Yea right...I've seen the clowns in your House of Commons. They jump
> up and down like a jack-in-the-box while many in the audience yell
> here, here or some other typically stupid Britsh jibberish. Nothing
> but lots of noise, finger pointing; kid stuff. Hey, sounds like CIWAH.
>
>
*sighs*
I was wondering when his uninformed BS would make an appearance.
Thankfully the majority of Americans I know are not as blinkered and obnoxious
as Mr. Schlake here.
The "hear, hear" etc is based on an old tradition just in case you were stupid
enough to believe that it is said in everyday speak. I don't expect you to
understand much about tradition mind.
I think your comments are particularly rich when you look at that fine example
of the American politician, your president Mr. Bill Clinton lol.
All I see of US politics is endless character assassination and the bended knee
when it comes to confronting lobbyists such as the NRA. Get your own "house" in
order before spewing that crap.
.oO(Am I wasting my time with a spotty teenager here?)
Alan
Webby's Backgammon Site
http://marina.fortunecity.com/frog/303/BGHome.htm
Mark Waterous
From: comm...@hobsonsquare.com (William G. Schlake)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 13:36:30 GMT
Subject: Re: American HTML instead of British HTML
:Yea right...I've seen the clowns in your House of Commons. They jump
:up and down like a jack-in-the-box while many in the audience yell
:here, here or some other typically stupid Britsh jibberish. Nothing
:but lots of noise, finger pointing; kid stuff. Hey, sounds like CIWAH.
-----End quoted pertinent infomumbojumble-----
No matter how often I take sabbatical's, or how long they last
for, I can always count on the fact that I'll come back and you'll be
bleating on under your little bridge about the evil evil CIWAH.
Comedy relief at it's finest, thanks for the laughs Billy.
--
Mark Waterous <ma...@projectlinux.org>
Project Linux - http://www.projectlinux.org/
Give a man Windows and you feed him for a day; teach him to use Linux and he won't bother you for weeks.
jennifer allee
well. And they sure sound like me! :) Which makes it easier to turn the other
cheek when people make those Fargo-esque jokes when they learn I'm from
Wisconsin! (Although my husband grew up in Iowa, and has family there, and they
sound different...)
Remember the movie Gone With the Wind? Big stink made in fan zines when the
British actress Vivien Leigh was hired to play the Southern Belle. But voice
coaches said her accent was closer to a high class southern accent than any of
the American actresses who wanted the part....
jennifer
holygoat wrote:
jennifer allee
Only my undereducated Swedish grandfather talks like the people in Fargo. Before
that movie, I thought it was just him!
I'm near Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and the people I know sound like Matt Lauer and
Katie Couric! Really!
jennifer
Tina - White Lake Web wrote:
> I beg to differ. You can tell a mid-west American accent right off...and it
> isn't like a California accent at all. Ever see the movie Fargo? Thaat's
> mid-westrn fir ya. : )
>
> Unless you're talking a California surfer-dude, California is probably the
> clearest and blandest accent (or lack of) in the US.
>
> --
> Tina Peters
>
> White Lake Web
> Montague, Michigan USA
> Site design, graphics, hosting and more!
>
> http://www.WhiteLakeWeb.com
>
> tina@whitewakeweb"DOT"com
>
> holygoat wrote in message <7lsa8t$ptg$1...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
Steve Grant
"Tom Coates" <Tom.C...@REMOVEbtinternet.com> wrote:
> British person being forced to code in American English. <center> really
> grates for me.
It greats me. Just depends on your point of view. :)
--
Steve Grant
sgr...@iglou.com
http://www.iglou.com/sgrant/
holygoat
White Lake speaking in a "Fargo-esque" accent? I don't hear it ant where in
the Detroit area (except maybe Taylor--heh heh). I've lived in Michigan most
of my life, and in Cali (Sacramento) for a few years it has been *my*
experience that the Mid-western dialect is the most proper, as far as
American English goes. I also went to broadcast school (5 grand to find out
that I didn't want to be in radio!) and they basically said that most
broadcast outlets look for on-air talent with a "mid-western accent." But
that is just my two cents...
HG
Tina - White Lake Web <wl...@webshore.net> wrote in message
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holygoat
Tom Coates <Tom.C...@REMOVEbtinternet.com> wrote in message
news:7lse5j$njo$2...@plutonium.btinternet.com...
> This whole thread is weird though. It is strange to find yourself as a
> from an English speaking background at all...
>
Which brings up an interesting question vis a vis web design. Will
familiarity of the English language (the Queen's or otherwise) be more and
more a necessity of web design as the advent of multiple scripting lingos
continue to propigate? Or will someone eventually develop a browser capable
of reading code written in multiple (foriegn) languages? *THAT* would be an
answer to the age-old problem (sort of)...
HG
holygoat
HG
Michael W. Rosa <Mich...@Bizzlink.com> wrote in message
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Tom Coates
almost nothing to us English. It is certainly not a time of great
resentment - instead the day is used for menu changes and special cocktails
in American theme bars. It's quite cool really.
Basically, although there is a certain amount of anti-American sentiment in
the snobbier circles, noone else in the UK feels any aggression at all.
Except when the odd confused American starts saying things (all these are
true from three years ago on a trip I did to America) like:
"Do you have electricity yet?"
"Do you have telephones?"
"You guys all have outside toilets, right?"
"Have you met the Queen?"
Tim Burch <tlb...@shighway.com> wrote in message
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holygoat
UK):
"You're from Detroit?! How many guns do you own?"
"Detroit?! And you made it out ALIVE?!?"
"So you've got bars up on all your windows and doors, right?"
HG
Tom Coates <Tom.C...@REMOVEbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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Tina - White Lake Web
--
Tina Peters
White Lake Web
Montague, Michigan USA
$49 page design, $8.25/mo hosting - 20 megs + e-mails
http://www.WhiteLakeWeb.com
tina@whitewakeweb"DOT"com
holygoat wrote in message <7ltlpg$qn4$1...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>Tina, I'm from Michigan (like you?). Do you really hear your neighbors in
>White Lake speaking in a "Fargo-esque" accent?
Sometimes, yes. Especially in smaller towns. More so in rural Illinois.
I don't hear it ant where in
>the Detroit area (except maybe Taylor--heh heh). I've lived in Michigan
most
>of my life, and in Cali (Sacramento) for a few years it has been *my*
>experience that the Mid-western dialect is the most proper, as far as
>American English goes. I also went to broadcast school (5 grand to find
out
>that I didn't want to be in radio!) and they basically said that most
>broadcast outlets look for on-air talent with a "mid-western accent." But
>that is just my two cents.
Okay, since you're the expert...I concede. : )
My opinion is that there is a slight accent in Michigan (northwest). Maybe
it's a trickle-down Canadian accent??? I dunno.
-Tina
Tina - White Lake Web
the same room!
--
Tina Peters
White Lake Web
Montague, Michigan USA
$49 page design, $8.25/mo hosting - 20 megs + e-mails
http://www.WhiteLakeWeb.com
tina@whitewakeweb"DOT"com
Tim Burch wrote in message <3781F8DE...@shighway.com>...
Tina - White Lake Web
I've noticed that the majority of girls under 17 years of age, in
Michigan...tend to speak either Valley Girl or Ebonics. Strange!
--Tina
Tina - White Lake Web wrote in message
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>
>
>--
>Tina Peters
>
>White Lake Web
>Montague, Michigan USA
>$49 page design, $8.25/mo hosting - 20 megs + e-mails
>
>http://www.WhiteLakeWeb.com
>tina@whitewakeweb"DOT"com
>
holygoat
they definately have a heaping helping of the Great White North in their
voices. And you're right about the teen-age girls -- strange, and annoying.
HG
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Roving Reporter
approximately 1991 or so, the teacher made a comment that our language
is changing right now, as she spoke, which is what "valley girl" talk
is all about. It's a shifting of some bits of the language, how it's
pronounced, etc. I guess I'm too old for that, but what you said may
mean it's more than just a California phenomenon...perhaps fed by
media transmission of the changed speech via TV shows.
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 18:59:04 -0700, "Tina - White Lake Web"
<wl...@webshore.net> scribbled:
>I know I'm answering myself here...but I just thought of something else.
>
>I've noticed that the majority of girls under 17 years of age, in
>Michigan...tend to speak either Valley Girl or Ebonics. Strange!
>>holygoat wrote in message <7ltlpg$qn4$1...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
>>>Tina, I'm from Michigan (like you?). Do you really hear your neighbors in
>>>White Lake speaking in a "Fargo-esque" accent?
>>
>>Sometimes, yes. Especially in smaller towns. More so in rural Illinois.
>>
>>
>>I don't hear it ant where in
>>>the Detroit area (except maybe Taylor--heh heh). I've lived in Michigan
>>most
>>>of my life, and in Cali (Sacramento) for a few years it has been *my*
>>>experience that the Mid-western dialect is the most proper, as far as
>>>American English goes. I also went to broadcast school (5 grand to find
>>out
>>>that I didn't want to be in radio!) and they basically said that most
>>>broadcast outlets look for on-air talent with a "mid-western accent." But
>>>that is just my two cents.
>>
>>Okay, since you're the expert...I concede. : )
>>
>>My opinion is that there is a slight accent in Michigan (northwest). Maybe
>>it's a trickle-down Canadian accent??? I dunno.
jim
Shakespeare's time and american actors now is the varied accents, in
Shakespeare's time the actors who acted in the plays came from all different
parts of Britain at a time when english was not at all standardized (was it
ever) people spoke in many different dialects and accents that bear little
resemblance to the "queens english" or the way english are taught to do
Shakespeare 'correctly' and were in fact much closer in variation to american
english.
i did my homework on this and am not just making this up so im not interested in
arguing about this with some dim brit who doesn't know his linguistics...
Tom Coates wrote:
> I wouldn't be surprised if elements of this were true - I mean, American and
> British English parted company a while after Shakespeare, and there are
> certainly some elements of the language that have been abandoned by the
> British but retained by Americans.
>
> On the other hand, a lot of the American accent has been influenced by the
> other nationalities that emigrated to America as well.
>
> This whole thread is weird though. It is strange to find yourself as a
> British person being forced to code in American English. <center> really
> grates for me. But then, think how much worse it would be if you were not
> from an English speaking background at all...
>
> Roving Reporter <tls...@concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:37819f1c...@news.concentric.net...
> > On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 19:18:06 +0100,
> > use...@webdude.freeserve.co.uk.CutThis (Hywel Jenkins) scribbled:
> > >In article <3780799D...@madmail.com>, jim said...
> > >> heres something you may not of known:
> > >> that american actors have better pronunciation when it comes to
> Shakespeare
> > >> then british actors and that they way english is spoken in america is
> actually
> > >> closer to the way it was spoken through out england during that time
> then the
> > >> way it is spoken there now.
> > >Rubbish, absolute garbage, complete trash, in fact.
> >
> > Probably talking about eastern U.S. on the seaboard, I doubt this
> > would be true of 100% of the U.S.
> >
> > BTW, the "American" English you hear on TV/Radio from the U.S. is
> > generally the California dialect of it. There are several regional
> > variations on the east, the south, the north, midwest, southwest, and
> > of course, west. Some of them are more pronounced than others, and
> > some are sort of pidgins of English and other languages, as for
> > example: Spanglish and Creole.
> >
jim
> world impression of Americans is that they're a nation of pseudo-
> intellectuals that desperately need to stamp their marks on the world by
> parading their arrogance and ignorance for rest of us? There are
> exceptions, I know.
sorry buddy i've lived in more countries then i can count on my fingers and toes
(funny but i've never even lived in america though) and that is definitely not the
case, but i think you'd be surprised what a lot of nations think about the british,
(of course thetas if they think about your puny little country at all)
jim
> > 'gaol' ? i think not! will they call a truck a lorry?
> > will the call an elevator a lift? and i could go on and on.
> > english has always been an evoluting language it has never been static so
> > proper english would not be proper just because a bunch of stuffys in england
> > decided they would make its so.
> Of course not, dimwit, they have words for those things in their own
> languages. Duh!
sorry bud i dont know were you've been the last fifty years or so but now a days
english is used and taught in almost every nation in the world.
look i live in japan and japanese can all write in english in fact better then many
native english speakers (they cant talk worth sh*t though)
but i'll give two guesses as to whether they are almost any other nation will spell
jail as gaol
jim
> > hundreds of dialects spoken in china) has more predominance world wide than
> > english, then your more mistaken then i thought.
> Actually, in 1997 Mandarin Chinese was spoken by the majority of the
> world, somewhere in the region of 800,000,000 people.
damn i hate having to explain my posts for the um i will just say 'intellectually
challenged' but mister jenkins why dont you go to your little bookshelf and pull out
your little oxford english dictionary or what ever you use and look up
"predominant" okay?
and if you still, still, still think that mandarin has more predominance world wide
than english i would have to wonder how you got out of your padded cell and on to
the internet.
jim
> time period and not typos.
not exactly correct spelling as through and before tyndale and
Shakespeare's time there was no correct way to spell in english authors
could spell how ever the hell they liked (or depending on how they were
taught) this also explains why we have some weird and seemingly useless
letters in our alphabet.