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adalinea...@gmail.com
Nov 20, 2012, 1:34:33 AM11/20/12
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Craigslist ads can definitely help your business. Whether you are advertising something for sale show you how to form an effective Craigslist ad and keep it visible through post maven.
http://www.postmaven.com/about
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Idle
Nov 20, 2012, 5:22:16 AM11/20/12
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:34:33 -0800 (PST), adalinea...@gmail.com
wrote:
> Craigslist ads can definitely help your business. Whether you are advertising something for sale show you how to form an effective Craigslist ad and keep it visible through post maven.
>
> http://<snip>
Hickory dickory dock.
A mouse ran up my cock.
The cat went crazy...
Things got hazy...
I woke up in the fukken hospital.
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idle
One time, I was watching a shootout live on CNN, and it went on for so
long that the criminal eventually shot himself. And the cops are
complaining by saying, "He's got on body armor, he's got on body armor!"
And I'm thinking, "I can see his head! Shoot him in his fuckin' head!"
wrote:
> Craigslist ads can definitely help your business. Whether you are advertising something for sale show you how to form an effective Craigslist ad and keep it visible through post maven.
>
Hickory dickory dock.
A mouse ran up my cock.
The cat went crazy...
Things got hazy...
I woke up in the fukken hospital.
--
idle
One time, I was watching a shootout live on CNN, and it went on for so
long that the criminal eventually shot himself. And the cops are
complaining by saying, "He's got on body armor, he's got on body armor!"
And I'm thinking, "I can see his head! Shoot him in his fuckin' head!"
Brian Cryer
Nov 22, 2012, 6:41:31 AM11/22/12
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<adalinea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Spamming can definitely help your business.
<snip>
Spamming just annoys people and harms the reputation of your business.
Ads aren't welcome here, please don't spam.
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Brian Cryer
http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
news:ca64cbe4-a771-4981...@googlegroups.com...
> Spamming can definitely help your business.
<snip>
Spamming just annoys people and harms the reputation of your business.
Ads aren't welcome here, please don't spam.
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Brian Cryer
http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
Robert Baer
Dec 6, 2012, 7:46:52 PM12/6/12
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adalinea...@gmail.com wrote:
> Craigslist ads can definitely help your business. Whether you are advertising something for sale show you how to form an effective Craigslist ad and keep it visible through post maven.
>
> http://www.postmaven.com/about
Craigs List is, to be polite, shit.
> Craigslist ads can definitely help your business. Whether you are advertising something for sale show you how to form an effective Craigslist ad and keep it visible through post maven.
>
> http://www.postmaven.com/about
I posted _ONE_ item for sale, and got ZERO related responses; all
were SPAM "sell our junk" type "responses".
Hundreds of them.
And that continued for OVER TWO years.
(PeteCresswell)
Dec 6, 2012, 8:10:09 PM12/6/12
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Per Robert Baer:
vehicle up for sale - on multiple lists.
There's *always* a response almost immediately to the effect of
"I'm in an occupation that keeps me away from home (merchant
seaman, military, and so-forth)... but I like your price and want
to procure the vehicle for my (wife, son, grandson....) and would
want to make the transaction via PayPal and have my (wife, son,
grandson...) pick up the vehicle after payment clears".
I can't figure out where the scam is and, truthfully, haven't
spent much time trying. But my guess it's some form of advance
fee fraud.
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Pete Cresswell
>Craigs List is, to be polite, shit.
> I posted _ONE_ item for sale, and got ZERO related responses; all
>were SPAM "sell our junk" type "responses".
> Hundreds of them.
> And that continued for OVER TWO years.
My first experience with Craig's list is this year putting a
> I posted _ONE_ item for sale, and got ZERO related responses; all
>were SPAM "sell our junk" type "responses".
> Hundreds of them.
> And that continued for OVER TWO years.
vehicle up for sale - on multiple lists.
There's *always* a response almost immediately to the effect of
"I'm in an occupation that keeps me away from home (merchant
seaman, military, and so-forth)... but I like your price and want
to procure the vehicle for my (wife, son, grandson....) and would
want to make the transaction via PayPal and have my (wife, son,
grandson...) pick up the vehicle after payment clears".
I can't figure out where the scam is and, truthfully, haven't
spent much time trying. But my guess it's some form of advance
fee fraud.
--
Pete Cresswell
Brian Cryer
Dec 7, 2012, 4:51:07 AM12/7/12
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"(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote in message
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One of the problems with PayPal is that payments can be reversed. So the
scam might be that they purchase your car, and a month or so later try to
reverse the payment. Just a guess. I suppose payment via cheque would be
fine ... ?
news:11g2c8lfgvri56ea3...@4ax.com...
scam might be that they purchase your car, and a month or so later try to
reverse the payment. Just a guess. I suppose payment via cheque would be
fine ... ?
(PeteCresswell)
Dec 7, 2012, 8:33:02 PM12/7/12
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Per Brian Cryer:
money out of it and how quickly. My supposition is that even if
it's technically possible, there are means for the buyer to
interfere with that process (as in contesting a sale as
fraudulent)
Actually, there's a scam where it's not only payment via checque,
but via a *banker's* checque.
My understanding of one variant:
The mark has put his car up for sale for, let's say, $15,000.
Scammer#1 contacts the mark about buying the mark's car for the
asking price.
Unfortunately, Scammer#1 lives outside of the country. But the
car is one that is highly valued in his country and Scammer#1
wants to buy it ASAP.
As fate would have it, Scammer#1 has a (brother, uncle,
sister....Scammer#2...) living in the vicinity of the mark.
The deal is that Scammer#1 will mail a cashier's checque to the
mark. The checque will be for $20,000: the price of the car
plus five thousand for shipping.
The mark will deposit the checque in the mark's checking
(checquing?) account and, once the cashier's checque has
cleared, the mark will transfer the cash diff to Scammer#2 so
Scammer#2 can arrange for shipping.
I'm not clear on whether the car's title actually ever gets
transferred. My guess would be not bco the exposure in terms of
face time, signatures, handwriting, and so-forth....
Some days (weeks? months?) later, the mark's bank informs him
that the chequer has bounced and his account has been debited for
$20,000.
Oops!
"But, but, but.... the checque had *cleared* and it was a
*cashier's* chequer!"
"So sorry... 'Cleared' means only that it transited the clearing
house that the mark's bank uses. But once it got back to the
issuing bank in country xyz, it was sent back as (bogus, NSF,
forged, whatever...)."
My take-home: if the deal is with a stranger and it's not for
cash, it's probably a scam.
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Pete Cresswell
>One of the problems with PayPal is that payments can be reversed. So the
>scam might be that they purchase your car, and a month or so later try to
>reverse the payment. Just a guess. I suppose payment via cheque would be
>fine ... ?
>--
> Brian Cryer
> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
I was wondering about PayPal - whether or not one can get their
>scam might be that they purchase your car, and a month or so later try to
>reverse the payment. Just a guess. I suppose payment via cheque would be
>fine ... ?
>--
> Brian Cryer
> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian
money out of it and how quickly. My supposition is that even if
it's technically possible, there are means for the buyer to
interfere with that process (as in contesting a sale as
fraudulent)
Actually, there's a scam where it's not only payment via checque,
but via a *banker's* checque.
My understanding of one variant:
The mark has put his car up for sale for, let's say, $15,000.
Scammer#1 contacts the mark about buying the mark's car for the
asking price.
Unfortunately, Scammer#1 lives outside of the country. But the
car is one that is highly valued in his country and Scammer#1
wants to buy it ASAP.
As fate would have it, Scammer#1 has a (brother, uncle,
sister....Scammer#2...) living in the vicinity of the mark.
The deal is that Scammer#1 will mail a cashier's checque to the
mark. The checque will be for $20,000: the price of the car
plus five thousand for shipping.
The mark will deposit the checque in the mark's checking
(checquing?) account and, once the cashier's checque has
cleared, the mark will transfer the cash diff to Scammer#2 so
Scammer#2 can arrange for shipping.
I'm not clear on whether the car's title actually ever gets
transferred. My guess would be not bco the exposure in terms of
face time, signatures, handwriting, and so-forth....
Some days (weeks? months?) later, the mark's bank informs him
that the chequer has bounced and his account has been debited for
$20,000.
Oops!
"But, but, but.... the checque had *cleared* and it was a
*cashier's* chequer!"
"So sorry... 'Cleared' means only that it transited the clearing
house that the mark's bank uses. But once it got back to the
issuing bank in country xyz, it was sent back as (bogus, NSF,
forged, whatever...)."
My take-home: if the deal is with a stranger and it's not for
cash, it's probably a scam.
--
Pete Cresswell
dorayme
Dec 7, 2012, 8:49:48 PM12/7/12
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In article <cq45c8dg6j7sr8l9i...@4ax.com>,
> "So sorry... 'Cleared' means only that it transited the clearing
> house that the mark's bank uses.
So the mark's bank would give the mark cash if he wanted it at this
stage. I find this hard to believe.
> But once it got back to the
> issuing bank in country xyz, it was sent back as (bogus, NSF,
> forged, whatever...)."
--
dorayme
"(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
> The mark will deposit the checque in the mark's checking
> (checquing?) account and, once the cashier's checque has
> cleared, the mark will transfer the cash diff to Scammer#2 so
> Scammer#2 can arrange for shipping.
>
...
> The mark will deposit the checque in the mark's checking
> (checquing?) account and, once the cashier's checque has
> cleared, the mark will transfer the cash diff to Scammer#2 so
> Scammer#2 can arrange for shipping.
>
> "So sorry... 'Cleared' means only that it transited the clearing
> house that the mark's bank uses.
stage. I find this hard to believe.
> But once it got back to the
> issuing bank in country xyz, it was sent back as (bogus, NSF,
> forged, whatever...)."
dorayme
Robert Baer
Dec 8, 2012, 12:56:05 AM12/8/12
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dorayme wrote:
> In article<cq45c8dg6j7sr8l9i...@4ax.com>,
> "(PeteCresswell)"<x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
>
>> The mark will deposit the checque in the mark's checking
>> (checquing?) account and, once the cashier's checque has
>> cleared, the mark will transfer the cash diff to Scammer#2 so
>> Scammer#2 can arrange for shipping.
>>
> ...
>
>> "So sorry... 'Cleared' means only that it transited the clearing
>> house that the mark's bank uses.
>
> So the mark's bank would give the mark cash if he wanted it at this
> stage. I find this hard to believe.
* Not at all. When the issuing bank refuses it as bogus, etc, the mark's
> In article<cq45c8dg6j7sr8l9i...@4ax.com>,
> "(PeteCresswell)"<x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
>
>> The mark will deposit the checque in the mark's checking
>> (checquing?) account and, once the cashier's checque has
>> cleared, the mark will transfer the cash diff to Scammer#2 so
>> Scammer#2 can arrange for shipping.
>>
> ...
>
>> "So sorry... 'Cleared' means only that it transited the clearing
>> house that the mark's bank uses.
>
> So the mark's bank would give the mark cash if he wanted it at this
> stage. I find this hard to believe.
bank debits the mark's account. That may result in an overdraft and bank
fees.
The bank will win any argument here.
dorayme
Dec 8, 2012, 3:33:03 AM12/8/12
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In article <eEAws.2075$H5....@newsfe28.iad>,
> The bank will win any argument here.
>
> >
I would want more evidence on this before believing it.
--
dorayme
Robert Baer <rober...@localnet.com> wrote:
> dorayme wrote:
> > In article<cq45c8dg6j7sr8l9i...@4ax.com>,
> > "(PeteCresswell)"<x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> 'Cleared' means only that it transited the clearing
> >> house that the mark's bank uses.
> >
> > So the mark's bank would give the mark cash if he wanted it at this
> > stage. I find this hard to believe.
>
> * Not at all. When the issuing bank refuses it as bogus, etc, the mark's
> bank debits the mark's account. That may result in an overdraft and bank
> fees.
Or legal action if the mark has by this time closed his account?
> dorayme wrote:
> > In article<cq45c8dg6j7sr8l9i...@4ax.com>,
> > "(PeteCresswell)"<x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> 'Cleared' means only that it transited the clearing
> >> house that the mark's bank uses.
> >
> > So the mark's bank would give the mark cash if he wanted it at this
> > stage. I find this hard to believe.
>
> * Not at all. When the issuing bank refuses it as bogus, etc, the mark's
> bank debits the mark's account. That may result in an overdraft and bank
> fees.
> The bank will win any argument here.
>
> >
--
dorayme
(PeteCresswell)
Dec 8, 2012, 9:29:01 AM12/8/12
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Per dorayme:
might already have more than $5,000 in the account.
--
Pete Cresswell
>So the mark's bank would give the mark cash if he wanted it at this
>stage. I find this hard to believe.
That's beyond my pay grade. But I can imagine that the mark
>stage. I find this hard to believe.
might already have more than $5,000 in the account.
--
Pete Cresswell
(PeteCresswell)
Dec 8, 2012, 9:32:46 AM12/8/12
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Per dorayme:
seems pretty reliable to me:
http://www.snopes.com/fraud/sales/cashier.asp
"The scam works because the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
(FDIC) requires banks to make money from cashier's, certified, or
teller's checks available in one to five days."
--
Pete Cresswell
>
>I would want more evidence on this before believing it.
Dunno strictly from the definition of "Evidence", but Snoopers
>I would want more evidence on this before believing it.
seems pretty reliable to me:
http://www.snopes.com/fraud/sales/cashier.asp
"The scam works because the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
(FDIC) requires banks to make money from cashier's, certified, or
teller's checks available in one to five days."
--
Pete Cresswell
(PeteCresswell)
Dec 8, 2012, 12:10:24 PM12/8/12
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Per (PeteCresswell):
> but Snoopers
SHB "Snopes".... spelling checker got me...
--
Pete Cresswell
> but Snoopers
SHB "Snopes".... spelling checker got me...
--
Pete Cresswell
Brian Cryer
Dec 10, 2012, 4:56:33 AM12/10/12
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FYI and getting OT: "cheque" is the UK spelling of "check" (US?)
(PeteCresswell)
Dec 10, 2012, 9:33:10 AM12/10/12
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Per Brian Cryer:
a common language."
--
Pete Cresswell
>FYI and getting OT: "cheque" is the UK spelling of "check" (US?)
"Britain and The United States: two great countries separated by
a common language."
--
Pete Cresswell
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ad...@seatacwebdesign.com
Jan 9, 2013, 12:20:43 PM1/9/13
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You did post a URL to your site after telling people not to spam... hypocrite? or is that your forum signature (I'm new to Google Groups)
Brian Cryer
Jan 11, 2013, 12:23:55 PM1/11/13
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<ad...@seatacwebdesign.com> wrote in message
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http://everything.explained.at/Forum_spam/ that does refer to spam in a
user's signature. Whilst I I think that google (and others) are (or should
be) clever enough to identify what part of a post is a signature (everything
after the line "--(space)"), perhaps there is a grey areas there?
A typical definition of spam is that it is unsolicited and sent out in bulk,
I don't know (or care) whether this particular bit of spam was sent to other
newsgroups, I was looking at the content which was clearly just an advert.
news:c239a8a3-e6d9-4fa8...@googlegroups.com...
> You did post a URL to your site after telling people not to spam...
> hypocrite? or is that your forum signature (I'm new to Google Groups)
It is part of my signature, so not the same thing at all. That said, reading
> hypocrite? or is that your forum signature (I'm new to Google Groups)
http://everything.explained.at/Forum_spam/ that does refer to spam in a
user's signature. Whilst I I think that google (and others) are (or should
be) clever enough to identify what part of a post is a signature (everything
after the line "--(space)"), perhaps there is a grey areas there?
A typical definition of spam is that it is unsolicited and sent out in bulk,
I don't know (or care) whether this particular bit of spam was sent to other
newsgroups, I was looking at the content which was clearly just an advert.
Mr. X.
Jan 12, 2013, 2:50:13 AM1/12/13
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Maybe you are not a spammer, but other organizations can spam your site.
BTW - Your signature is kind of advertising (And that shouldn't be also,
same as spamming shouldn't be ...)
Newsgroup are for asking question and getting answers - People just forgot
this issue.
Hopping getting some answers, as I am also a user of that newsgroup.
"Brian Cryer" wrote in message news:kcphrg$duf$1...@dont-email.me...
BTW - Your signature is kind of advertising (And that shouldn't be also,
same as spamming shouldn't be ...)
Newsgroup are for asking question and getting answers - People just forgot
this issue.
Hopping getting some answers, as I am also a user of that newsgroup.
"Brian Cryer" wrote in message news:kcphrg$duf$1...@dont-email.me...
Ed Mullen
Jan 12, 2013, 1:27:20 PM1/12/13
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block
URLs are perfectly legitimate in sigs on a newsgroup.
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Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net/
Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have any film.
license...@gmail.com
Jan 17, 2013, 2:15:42 PM1/17/13
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I think you guys have all missed the point of the scam. There is no need for any advance fee scam here.
You'd have to be a complete idiot to think anything is going to result from answering this sort of email. The sender is only interested in that sort of complete idiot. Someone stupid enough to think that a letter offering to buy for more than the advertised price can be genuine?? Not just greedy or elderly and a bit trusting, but actually THAT stupid.
There never is any cashier's cheque or any proper cheque. The sender fabricates some sort of faked bank and fake account (or genuine multi-national bank which mysteriously uses a yahoo account to communicate and transact business). He then sends a cheque (usually in some sort of electronic form) as a cashier's cheque. A day later he either sends a letter confirming or has the fake bank pretend that as he has received the cheque, it is OK to send the item being advertised to the address (mysteriously in Abuja or Lagos). Sometimes he even sends a genuine FEDEX shipping slip! You have to look carefully at the VERTICAL wording on that slip to see the give-away wording "BILL SENDER"!
'Knowing' that his payment is secure, after sending the item, the sender gets around to transferring the money into his bank account.
Again, only a complete idiot would fall for any of this.
You'd have to be a complete idiot to think anything is going to result from answering this sort of email. The sender is only interested in that sort of complete idiot. Someone stupid enough to think that a letter offering to buy for more than the advertised price can be genuine?? Not just greedy or elderly and a bit trusting, but actually THAT stupid.
There never is any cashier's cheque or any proper cheque. The sender fabricates some sort of faked bank and fake account (or genuine multi-national bank which mysteriously uses a yahoo account to communicate and transact business). He then sends a cheque (usually in some sort of electronic form) as a cashier's cheque. A day later he either sends a letter confirming or has the fake bank pretend that as he has received the cheque, it is OK to send the item being advertised to the address (mysteriously in Abuja or Lagos). Sometimes he even sends a genuine FEDEX shipping slip! You have to look carefully at the VERTICAL wording on that slip to see the give-away wording "BILL SENDER"!
'Knowing' that his payment is secure, after sending the item, the sender gets around to transferring the money into his bank account.
Again, only a complete idiot would fall for any of this.
Allodoxaphobia
Jan 18, 2013, 11:53:17 AM1/18/13
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