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Naive Group User

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Dec 29, 2009, 9:08:31 PM12/29/09
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I have a menu made in css - the ul and li elements that display inline
blocks of texts
I'd like to have one of the item to be a dropdown but I can't figure
out how to do that
Someone could offer some hints please,
Also, I prefer my site to be completely javascript-free, (all done in
css alone is definitely possible right ? :-D)

Thank you :D

dorayme

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Dec 29, 2009, 10:23:51 PM12/29/09
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Doug Miller

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Dec 29, 2009, 11:30:48 PM12/29/09
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>I have a menu made in css - the ul and li elements that display inline
>blocks of texts
>I'd like to have one of the item to be a dropdown but I can't figure
>out how to do that
>Someone could offer some hints please,

Google 'CSS dropdown menu'.

This is a nice example:
http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/final_drop.html

>Also, I prefer my site to be completely javascript-free, (all done in
>css alone is definitely possible right ? :-D)

Yes it is.
>Thank you :D
>

DLU

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Dec 29, 2009, 11:52:15 PM12/29/09
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This was poster on alt.html 12/05
http://www.ezdia.com/Drop_down_menus_in_HTML/Content.do?id=495

Yu can search USENET by using:
http://groups.google.com/

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asdf

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Dec 30, 2009, 3:10:49 AM12/30/09
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"Naive Group User" <imuap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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This just works:

http://users.tpg.com.au/j_birch/plugins/superfish/

...and does not require javascript to work. It degrades beautifully. You
have the option to 'enhance' it with various javascripty niceties, but you
don't need them.

...and, used properly, validates correctly with (X)HTML and CSS validators.

How's that business plan going? :)


rf

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rf

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Dec 30, 2009, 4:43:26 AM12/30/09
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"asdf" <as...@nowhere.nowhere> wrote in message
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> "Naive Group User" <imuap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4ee133c5-248c-405b...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>I have a menu made in css - the ul and li elements that display inline
>> blocks of texts
>> I'd like to have one of the item to be a dropdown but I can't figure
>> out how to do that
>> Someone could offer some hints please,
>> Also, I prefer my site to be completely javascript-free, (all done in
>> css alone is definitely possible right ? :-D)
>>
>> Thank you :D
>>
>
> This just works:
>
> http://users.tpg.com.au/j_birch/plugins/superfish/

How can something that is obviously a <spit> jQuery </spit> plugin not
require javascript to work, for some yet to be difined value or "work", that
is.

> ...and does not require javascript to work. It degrades beautifully.

Yes, it degrades beautifullly (with javascript disabled) to the original CSS
based dropdown menu that the OP desired. And, IIRC, the OP specified no
javascript.

> You have the option to 'enhance' it with various javascripty niceties, but
> you don't need them.

Yes, we certainly don't need any <spit> jQuery </spit> enhancements, do we.

> ...and, used properly, validates correctly with (X)HTML and CSS
> validators.

That's because it's all javascript.


Doug Miller

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Dec 30, 2009, 5:56:58 AM12/30/09
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In article <c9ab1$4b3adc80$40717bba$23...@EVERESTKC.NET>, DLU <da...@justthe.net> wrote:
>Naive Group User wrote:
>> I have a menu made in css - the ul and li elements that display inline
>> blocks of texts
>> I'd like to have one of the item to be a dropdown but I can't figure
>> out how to do that
>> Someone could offer some hints please,
>> Also, I prefer my site to be completely javascript-free, (all done in
>> css alone is definitely possible right ? :-D)
>>
>> Thank you :D
>>
>This was poster on alt.html 12/05
>http://www.spammer.com/Drop_down_menus_in_HTML/Content.do?id=495

Oh, please.
1) That site has spammed their tutorials to nearly every computer-related
group on Usenet.
2) None of the tutorials are worth a damn.
3) The site is incompetently written and designed. They have *no* business
offering anyone advice about HTML. Running the HTML Validator at
validator.w3.org against the URL you provided shows 93 errors, 36 warnings.
This is *not* the place to go for HTML examples.

SAZ

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Dec 30, 2009, 10:27:04 AM12/30/09
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In article <hhel1s$jig$2...@news.eternal-september.org>,
spam...@milmac.com says...

The best part of your reply - your example DOES have javascript.

To the OP - you need javascript.


Ed Mullen

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Dec 30, 2009, 1:53:24 PM12/30/09
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The menu on that page does NOT require javascript.


>
> To the OP - you need javascript.

No he does NOT.

Another example:

http://edmullen.net/menu_example.php

No javascript there.

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DLU

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:39:44 PM12/30/09
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Doug Miller wrote:

>> This was poster on alt.html 12/05
>> http://www.spammer.com/Drop_down_menus_in_HTML/Content.do?id=495
>
> Oh, please.
> 1) That site has spammed their tutorials to nearly every computer-related
> group on Usenet.
> 2) None of the tutorials are worth a damn.
> 3) The site is incompetently written and designed. They have *no* business
> offering anyone advice about HTML. Running the HTML Validator at
> validator.w3.org against the URL you provided shows 93 errors, 36 warnings.
> This is *not* the place to go for HTML examples.

I did not realize this, I saw the thread on alt.html and some responses.

SAZ

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Dec 30, 2009, 2:47:29 PM12/30/09
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In article <MPG.25a52d461...@news.eternal-september.org>,
saz1958@!nospammersexcite.com says...

My bad - I meant to reply to the asdf post about superfish, not this
site. And for the superfish example, you need Javascript.

In other words, I experienced Brain Freeze this morning.


asdf

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:05:32 PM12/30/09
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>
> "asdf" <as...@nowhere.nowhere> wrote in message
> news:DN-dnfAghqaPlqbW...@westnet.com.au...
>> "Naive Group User" <imuap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4ee133c5-248c-405b...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>>I have a menu made in css - the ul and li elements that display inline
>>> blocks of texts
>>> I'd like to have one of the item to be a dropdown but I can't figure
>>> out how to do that
>>> Someone could offer some hints please,
>>> Also, I prefer my site to be completely javascript-free, (all done in
>>> css alone is definitely possible right ? :-D)
>>>
>>> Thank you :D
>>>
>>
>> This just works:
>>
>> http://users.tpg.com.au/j_birch/plugins/superfish/
>
> How can something that is obviously a <spit> jQuery </spit> plugin not
> require javascript to work, for some yet to be difined value or "work",
> that is.
>
>> ...and does not require javascript to work. It degrades beautifully.
>
> Yes, it degrades beautifullly (with javascript disabled) to the original
> CSS based dropdown menu that the OP desired. And, IIRC, the OP specified
> no javascript.
>

Ummm yes, it does. I think I made that perfectly clear.

>> You have the option to 'enhance' it with various javascripty niceties,
>> but you don't need them.
>
> Yes, we certainly don't need any <spit> jQuery </spit> enhancements, do
> we.
>

Oh grow up.

>> ...and, used properly, validates correctly with (X)HTML and CSS
>> validators.
>
> That's because it's all javascript.

No. The (X)HTML/CSS portion is correct.

Why can't you read the website and my post?

What is wrong with you?

asdf

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Dec 30, 2009, 6:09:07 PM12/30/09
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"SAZ" <saz1958@!nospammersexcite.com> wrote in message
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No you don't. Without javascript, it works beautifully as a "pure" CSS drop
down menu. I've tried it with javascript disabled, and it just works on all
the browsers I have available to me.

The javascript bits are for the various enhancements. You don't need to use
them, so therefore javascript is not required. Quite simple really.

If you don't believe me, go to the page with javascript disabled, and you'll
see it all working just fine.

> In other words, I experienced Brain Freeze this morning.
>
>

Clearly.


dorayme

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:49:57 PM12/30/09
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In article <O4edne5cfcpdQabW...@westnet.com.au>,
"asdf" <as...@nowhere.nowhere> wrote:

> "rf" <r...@z.invalid> wrote in message

> > Yes, we certainly don't need any <spit> jQuery </spit> enhancements, do
> > we.
> >
>
> Oh grow up.
>

How about developing a sense of humour! There's not much time left this
year...

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dorayme

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Dec 30, 2009, 7:52:05 PM12/30/09
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In article <C-CdndESp9EKQKbW...@westnet.com.au>,
"asdf" <as...@nowhere.nowhere> wrote:

>
> "SAZ" <saz1958@!nospammersexcite.com> wrote in message

> > In other words, I experienced Brain Freeze this morning.
> >
> >
>
> Clearly.

You had to twist the knife eh!

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Naive Group User

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Dec 30, 2009, 9:15:13 PM12/30/09
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Thanks everyboody

asdf

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:44:37 AM12/31/09
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Yep... hate me yet?


asdf

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:46:12 AM12/31/09
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"dorayme" <dorayme...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Oh I've got one of those... but over the years it's been eroded by usenet
twats all desperately trying to bignote themselves, and jump on the
slightest grammatical or syntactical error, whilst totally missing the
point.

Happy New Year all!

asdf

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Dec 31, 2009, 12:46:36 AM12/31/09
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"Naive Group User" <imuap...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks everyboody

Most welcome.


dorayme

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:10:32 AM12/31/09
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In article <5--dnYAx2_nVp6HW...@westnet.com.au>,
"asdf" <as...@nowhere.nowhere> wrote:

You must be kidding, son. But I get a bit embarrassed now and then... <g>

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asdf

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:50:19 AM12/31/09
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"dorayme" <dorayme...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Unless you've successfully managed to twist HTML into a time-drive, I doubt
that I am your son *chuckle*

...but thanks for thinking of me as young... you just made my night :)

(Prepares a mug of Horlicks, slippers, and a pipe, in preparation for a
quiet night in front of the telly watching old vids of "All Creatures Great
and Small")

Happy New Year, everyone! :D


Neredbojias

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:53:55 AM12/31/09
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On 30 Dec 2009, "asdf" <as...@nowhere.nowhere> wrote:

>>> Oh grow up.
>>>
>>
>> How about developing a sense of humour! There's not much time left
>> this year...
>>
>> --
>> dorayme
>
> Oh I've got one of those... but over the years it's been eroded by
> usenet twats all desperately trying to bignote themselves, and jump
> on the slightest grammatical or syntactical error, whilst totally
> missing the point.

Actually, there should be no comma between "themselves" and "and" or
"error" and "whilst" and "whilst" is an archaic affectation to boot.

> Happy New Year all!

Well, I'll be another year older. Is that your idea of good?

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SAZ

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:36:07 PM12/31/09
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In article <doraymeRidThis-D2A...@news.albasani.net>,
dorayme...@optusnet.com.au says...

I deserved it. I hate working from home when the kids are around. Too
many distractions.

SAZ

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Dec 31, 2009, 1:38:07 PM12/31/09
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In article <C-CdndESp9EKQKbW...@westnet.com.au>,
as...@nowhere.nowhere says...

Now I see that it does work. I guess I should have tried it before
posting anything.

asdf

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Jan 1, 2010, 8:21:48 AM1/1/10
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"Neredbojias" <nered...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 30 Dec 2009, "asdf" <as...@nowhere.nowhere> wrote:
>
>>>> Oh grow up.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How about developing a sense of humour! There's not much time left
>>> this year...
>>>
>>> --
>>> dorayme
>>
>> Oh I've got one of those... but over the years it's been eroded by
>> usenet twats all desperately trying to bignote themselves, and jump
>> on the slightest grammatical or syntactical error, whilst totally
>> missing the point.
>
> Actually, there should be no comma between "themselves" and "and" or
> "error" and "whilst" and "whilst" is an archaic affectation to boot.
>

I rest my case.

You fell into my honey-smeared trap, the poor ant that you are.... :))

Goodnight.


>> Happy New Year all!
>
> Well, I'll be another year older. Is that your idea of good?
>

Well.. do you feel wiser for pointing out some slight gramatical error?

asdf

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"SAZ" <saz1958@!nospammersexcite.com> wrote in message
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I feel your pain. Really... I do!


asdf

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"SAZ" <saz1958@!nospammersexcite.com> wrote in message
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I guess so.

Don't feel bad.

I don't. :)

Cheers!


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