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bonestructure

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May 19, 2012, 5:24:35 PM5/19/12
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The Dead Outside
The story for The Dead Outside sees a world, or at least Britain,
infected by a virus which has killed most of the population and turned
them into walking dead. The disease is spread through human contact
and has decimated the population. A man is travelling across Scotland,
presumably trying to find some safe haven or find some sense amongst
this madness.

When his car runs dry of fuel he hikes to a local farmhouse and finds
that there's another survivor living there, a young girl who has been
put through so much to survive. And she pretty cute, too, even if she
is kind of emo.

Initially she tries to push him away and force him to leave, but soon
she realises just how much she has missed human contact and with a
bond quickly forming between the two she decides he can stay. Another
survivor arrives and the relationships become a little more complex,
particularly as this new arrival is both female and the man's own age.

However he's discovered a secret about the girl, something rather
special and unique, and this could be more important than any of them.

Quite early on with The Dead Outside you notice just how well thought
through the story is and how well they've transferred that to the big
screen. There are so many ways they could fall foul of clichés and
standard ways of telling this story and yet they've clearly put effort
into not doing that and bringing out something a little more unique
and interesting.

Stylistically the film is really good with some nice camera work, good
cinematography and editing, and holding on tightly to the idea of the
characters and their relationships rather than any huge action
sequences of fighting hordes of infected people.

They don't try and make the film show the epic scale of the events, or
tackle the story from a solve everything angle, instead it's purely
about the characters that they are following and how they are dealing
with the events at their level, on a day to day basis, leaving the
whole larger, worldwide event, to be dealt with elsewhere.

I really like that aspect. There's more time to develop characters and
their relationships. We aren't thrown into huge action sequences and
piles of gore unless the characters are, we see events and experience
them as they do, from their viewpoint, instead of pulling out to a
much larger view and trying to scare us with epic horror. Neither does
the film try and answer every aspect of the event from its beginning
to the end and any resolution, there's no need to over explain events
rather than just showing them effect the characters, and all that
makes for a much more believable story.

The camera work and cinematography is one other aspect of the film
that raises it above others in its bracket, and during darker scenes
and outside moments they remain strong. Of course it still carries a
low budget feel, but it's filmed and made far better than you would
expect.

There are some instances though where it's not as strong. Some of the
fight sequences are blocked out a little too much and the editing and
filming of these could have been a bit better in order to maintain the
same quality of the rest of the film, but it's not particularly poor,
it's just not as good as the rest of the film. Bear in mind that these
scenes are short and hardly as confusing as the Hollywood action
sequences we are often subjected to.

The performances are good too. For me the best was undoubtedly the
girl who lives in the house played by Sandra Louise Douglas. She gives
a convincing performance, and does manage to show a fair amount of
anxiety hinting at something more than just straight up anger. The
underlying fear that she carries with her, a fear that shows itself in
her attempts to continually push people away, continuing to bubble
under the surface and gives her character an edge that your never
really sure is dangerous or just extremely cautious. It helps to show
that there's something more hidden there, something that reveals
itself as the film goes on.

Alton Milne and Sharon Osdin are also good in their roles. Milne
doesn't ever seem to overplay his character and neither does he
underplay it either. To begin with I thought he might be coming from
the moody looks and little dialogue school of acting, but that's the
reality of the world created in the film, and reflects the cautious
and suspicious behaviour at being a survivor. As the film continues
and the relationships develop his character comes forth a bit more and
we start to see there's more to him than the moody survivor.

I was expecting a cheap, low budget atypical British horror, the kind
that is beginning to dominate in the higher end market and defining
the British section of the genre to the foreign film viewer. However
it's far from that, there's no comedy and it's all about the
psychological horror, the emptiness, the loneliness, the distrust and
the feeling of being alone, and to top it all a bit of survivor guilt.

The script is good and doesn't rely on clichés, and the lead actress
gives a strong performance, ably backed by her two co-stars.

The atmosphere and style of the film is the best surprise though, and
doesn't give away it's lower budget status. It concentrates on the
characters and the smaller locations, bringing the isolation and
loneliness to the fore and not concentrating on some big, epic zombie
story. Instead we get a horror-thriller concentrating on characters
and relationships, something I really didn't expect from current
British horror, much less Scottish horror.

The Dead Outside is another great example of Scottish film providing
something new, intelligent and with a bit more quality than many other
low budget films being produced in Britain. It's a fine example of
film-making and should get far more exposure, this is undoubtedly a
sign of what Scottish production should be investing in, and not the
depressing drug taking and horror-comedies that we're continually
being exposed to.

Kishin

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May 19, 2012, 5:55:34 PM5/19/12
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bonestructure wrote:
> The Dead Outside
> The story for The Dead Outside sees a world, or at least Britain,
> infected by a virus which has killed most of the population and turned
> them into walking dead. The disease is spread through human contact
> and has decimated the population. A man is travelling across Scotland,
> presumably trying to find some safe haven or find some sense amongst
> this madness.
>
> When his car runs dry of fuel he hikes to a local farmhouse and finds
> that there's another survivor living there, a young girl who has been
> put through so much to survive. And she pretty cute, too, even if she
> is kind of emo.
>
> Initially she tries to push him away and force him to leave, but soon
> she realises just how much she has missed human contact and with a
> bond quickly forming between the two she decides he can stay. Another
> survivor arrives and the relationships become a little more complex,
> particularly as this new arrival is both female and the man's own age.
>
> However he's discovered a secret about the girl, something rather
> special and unique, and this could be more important than any of them.
>
> Quite early on with The Dead Outside you notice just how well thought
> through the story is and how well they've transferred that to the big
> screen. There are so many ways they could fall foul of clich�s and
> The script is good and doesn't rely on clich�s, and the lead actress
> gives a strong performance, ably backed by her two co-stars.
>
> The atmosphere and style of the film is the best surprise though, and
> doesn't give away it's lower budget status. It concentrates on the
> characters and the smaller locations, bringing the isolation and
> loneliness to the fore and not concentrating on some big, epic zombie
> story. Instead we get a horror-thriller concentrating on characters
> and relationships, something I really didn't expect from current
> British horror, much less Scottish horror.
>
> The Dead Outside is another great example of Scottish film providing
> something new, intelligent and with a bit more quality than many other
> low budget films being produced in Britain. It's a fine example of
> film-making and should get far more exposure, this is undoubtedly a
> sign of what Scottish production should be investing in, and not the
> depressing drug taking and horror-comedies that we're continually
> being exposed to.

SOLD!

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Kishin

The White Lady

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May 20, 2012, 2:45:31 AM5/20/12
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bonestructure <bonest...@gmail.com> wrote in news:4b8b5877-fead-
41c0-9edb-5...@w19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
I think I'm goin gto come.

>
> The script is good and doesn't rely on clichés, and the lead actress
> gives a strong performance, ably backed by her two co-stars.
>
> The atmosphere and style of the film is the best surprise though, and
> doesn't give away it's lower budget status. It concentrates on the
> characters and the smaller locations, bringing the isolation and
> loneliness to the fore and not concentrating on some big, epic zombie
> story. Instead we get a horror-thriller concentrating on characters
> and relationships, something I really didn't expect from current
> British horror, much less Scottish horror.
>
> The Dead Outside is another great example of Scottish film providing
> something new, intelligent and with a bit more quality than many other
> low budget films being produced in Britain. It's a fine example of
> film-making and should get far more exposure, this is undoubtedly a
> sign of what Scottish production should be investing in, and not the
> depressing drug taking and horror-comedies that we're continually
> being exposed to.

Fuck, this sounds too perfect. How come I'm only hearing about it now,
from a seppo??? I could have been watching this last night.

The White Lady

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May 20, 2012, 5:23:53 AM5/20/12
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The White Lady <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:XnsA0594EEB46847meprivacynet@
130.133.4.11:

> Fuck, this sounds too perfect. How come I'm only hearing about it now,
> from a seppo??? I could have been watching this last night.
>

I shall be watching it in ten minutes time. God bless nigel.

The White Lady

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May 20, 2012, 5:36:13 AM5/20/12
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bonestructure <bonest...@gmail.com> wrote in news:4b8b5877-fead-
41c0-9edb-5...@w19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:

> The Dead Outside
> The story for The Dead Outside sees a world, or at least Britain,
> infected by a virus which has killed most of the population and turned
> them into walking dead. The disease is spread through human contact
> and has decimated the population. A man is travelling across Scotland,
> presumably trying to find some safe haven or find some sense amongst
> this madness.
>
> When his car runs dry of fuel he hikes to a local farmhouse and finds
> that there's another survivor living there, a young girl who has been
> put through so much to survive. And she pretty cute, too, even if she
> is kind of emo.
>
> Initially she tries to push him away and force him to leave, but soon
> she realises just how much she has missed human contact and with a
> bond quickly forming between the two she decides he can stay. Another
> survivor arrives and the relationships become a little more complex,
> particularly as this new arrival is both female and the man's own age.
>
> However he's discovered a secret about the girl, something rather
> special and unique, and this could be more important than any of them.
>
> Quite early on with The Dead Outside you notice just how well thought
> through the story is and how well they've transferred that to the big
> screen. There are so many ways they could fall foul of clich�s and
> The script is good and doesn't rely on clich�s, and the lead actress
> gives a strong performance, ably backed by her two co-stars.
>
> The atmosphere and style of the film is the best surprise though, and
> doesn't give away it's lower budget status. It concentrates on the
> characters and the smaller locations, bringing the isolation and
> loneliness to the fore and not concentrating on some big, epic zombie
> story. Instead we get a horror-thriller concentrating on characters
> and relationships, something I really didn't expect from current
> British horror, much less Scottish horror.
>
> The Dead Outside is another great example of Scottish film providing
> something new, intelligent and with a bit more quality than many other
> low budget films being produced in Britain. It's a fine example of
> film-making and should get far more exposure, this is undoubtedly a
> sign of what Scottish production should be investing in, and not the
> depressing drug taking and horror-comedies that we're continually
> being exposed to.

are you writing these yourself or just copying them of the internet?

Kishin

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May 20, 2012, 7:04:17 AM5/20/12
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I would expect he's writing them himself. He IS a writer, after all, and
has admitted to having a laptop with him to take notes during films for
his reviews.

--

Kishin

Kishin

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May 20, 2012, 7:04:51 AM5/20/12
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Yes, Nigel was forthcoming for me, as well. Perhaps this will be on
tonight's viewing schedule.

--

Kishin

The White Lady

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May 20, 2012, 7:25:26 AM5/20/12
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Kishin <no...@yobizz.ness> wrote in news:jpaj3i$41g$5...@dont-email.me:
That's what I thought...

http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archives/2009/07/the_dead_outside.html

I've just watched it and was very impressed. Would've been better last
night though.

Andrew

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May 20, 2012, 9:36:26 AM5/20/12
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On 5/20/2012 4:36 AM, The White Lady wrote:
> bonestructure<bonest...@gmail.com>
> <snip review>
>
> are you writing these yourself or just copying them of the internet?


I was a bit confused as well because I think he is grabbing the IMDB
synopsis for his first paragraph for some of his reviews and then
writing his own review.


Andrew

bonestructure

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May 20, 2012, 2:09:06 PM5/20/12
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> I was a bit confused as well because I think he is grabbing the IMDB
> synopsis for his first paragraph for some of his reviews and then
> writing his own review.

Pretty much. I'm on IMDb every day, looking for one thing or another.
I once spent an inordinate amount of time going through IMDb's
archives year by year and posting the movies I thought my B movie
group, another group, not here, would find interesting. And just the
other day, I posted most of the contents of videos on my wish list,
with synopsis, to the same group. Some day, I'd really love to write
one of those books about B movies, from my point of view. Don't know
anything about publishers for that kind of material though.

Blackwingbear

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May 20, 2012, 11:18:14 PM5/20/12
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On Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:23:53 AM UTC-4, The White Lady wrote:
> I shall be watching it in ten minutes time. God bless nigel.

The man is a saint. So generous.

ReVulse

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May 21, 2012, 9:02:45 AM5/21/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 11:09:06 -0700, bonestructure wrote:

>> I was a bit confused as well because I think he is grabbing the IMDB
>> synopsis for his first paragraph for some of his reviews and then
>> writing his own review.
>
> Pretty much.

Did you look at the link that TWL provided? The review there appears to
have been written in 2009 by someone called Richard Brunton and is
essentially word-for-word, the one you've posted.

http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archives/2009/07/the_dead_outside.html

--
#Andy#

bonestructure

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May 21, 2012, 2:13:48 PM5/21/12
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Yeah, there's a reason for that, but I ain't talkin.

Kishin

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May 21, 2012, 5:48:51 PM5/21/12
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I've been wondering how he found time to write so many long reviews. Now
we know.

--

Kishin

deadrodentyping

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May 21, 2012, 10:24:16 PM5/21/12
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The White Lady <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:XnsA0594EEB46847meprivacynet@
130.133.4.11:

> Fuck, this sounds too perfect. How come I'm only hearing about it now,
> from a seppo??? I could have been watching this last night.
>
You could have been watching TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY but you weren't.

It has John Hurt playing a dude named "Control". If that doesn't rev your
motor, what could?

The White Lady

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May 22, 2012, 3:56:40 AM5/22/12
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bonestructure <bonest...@gmail.com> wrote in news:284026ff-da9a-4f94-
ae8d-a07...@s5g2000vbc.googlegroups.com:

> Yeah, there's a reason for that, but I ain't talkin.

and this?

http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/paranormalactivity3bluray.php

ReVulse

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May 22, 2012, 8:44:05 AM5/22/12
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Here's another one:

http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/halloween6.php

It certainly looks like Bonestructure is plagiarising reviews (unless he
can come up with another explanation). I'm somewhat disappointed.

--
#Andy#

bonestructure

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May 22, 2012, 5:24:24 PM5/22/12
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Hey, I made a bad decision. Try being me some time.

Lesmond

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May 23, 2012, 9:35:44 AM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 14:24:24 -0700 (PDT), bonestructure wrote:

>Hey, I made a bad decision. Try being me some time.

But you're better than that. I'm a bit disappointed.

--
If there's a nuclear winter, at least it'll snow.



ReVulse

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May 23, 2012, 10:54:01 AM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 14:24:24 -0700, bonestructure wrote:

> Hey, I made a bad decision. Try being me some time.

I'm confused more than anything. I don't quite understand why you did it
(and did it repeatedly). It's not like you're getting paid for posting
reviews here. I find it especially odd for a writer. I value the opinions
of people here more than on other sites, so I'd prefer your own reviews
even if it's just "good" or "bad".

My reviews are generally shite - badly worded, poorly laid out and often
disjointed - but I hope they give people a rough idea of whether the film
will be their sort of thing.

--
#Andy#

bonestructure

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May 23, 2012, 1:56:08 PM5/23/12
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Mostly because I've been so terribly ill lately. It's hard to think
clearly when you're on heavy duty pain meds and super antibiotic and
shit, fighting a MRSA infection and a few other things. Not to mention
I've started having some problems with low blood sugar. As a diabetic,
that scares the crap outta me. And all that makes it damn near
impossible for me to focus or concentrate and shit. Oddly enough, my
sometimes writing partner in Australia is having problems too. But his
problem is that he can't seem to stay awake. Hell, I wish we didn't
need sleep at all. I'm too old, my time's too short and I have way
more I want to do. No, i ain't dyin, just a long term illness I hope
will be over soon. Though theoretically, I could freakin die tomorrow,
but so could any of us. Just my chances are a tad bit higher. But I
ain't dyin til my ex wife comes back and I hav\e a couple years to
enjoy that. Shit, I'm rambling again aren't I? Damn pain pills tend to
make me very voluble.

The White Lady

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May 23, 2012, 2:02:13 PM5/23/12
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bonestructure <bonest...@gmail.com> wrote in news:75eb89e3-5f89-4f41-
8d82-8fa...@3g2000vbx.googlegroups.com:

> Hey, I made a bad decision. Try being me some time.


Did you watch the films and post the nigelled reviews because they
generally represented your views of the films? Or was it merely A CRY FOR
HELP?

Dr Walpurgis

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May 23, 2012, 2:53:17 PM5/23/12
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"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote:

>> Hey, I made a bad decision. Try being me some time.
>
> But you're better than that. I'm a bit disappointed.

I'm only disappointed to find out that someone who seemed to be PUTTING THE
GRAFT IN turns out to be as BONE IDLE as the rest of us.

Either way, I enjoyed reading them.

--
"I saw a clinical psychologist once." - Avoid normal situations, 18/2/09

Lesmond

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May 23, 2012, 4:03:59 PM5/23/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 18:53:17 +0000 (UTC), Dr Walpurgis wrote:

>"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>> Hey, I made a bad decision. Try being me some time.
>>
>> But you're better than that. I'm a bit disappointed.
>
>I'm only disappointed to find out that someone who seemed to be PUTTING THE
>GRAFT IN turns out to be as BONE IDLE as the rest of us.
>
>Either way, I enjoyed reading them.

At least he was pointing us in the right direction.

Lesmond

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May 23, 2012, 4:04:40 PM5/23/12
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Hey, good question. Did you watch the movies you posted the reviews for,
Ron?

Kishin

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May 23, 2012, 6:33:24 PM5/23/12
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That's all I expect from a review.

--

Kishin

bonestructure

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May 23, 2012, 8:14:45 PM5/23/12
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> Hey, good question.  Did you watch the movies you posted the reviews for,
> Ron?

Every single one. And still have a couple left to get around to. Hell,
I still haven't watched my copy of The Girl Who Played with Fire. For
some reason I have this hang up in my head that I need to watch the
first one again before I watch the second one.

bonestructure

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May 23, 2012, 8:13:01 PM5/23/12
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I agreed with the reviews. They generally expressed my opinion.

Dunno what a cry for help would do for me.

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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May 23, 2012, 8:57:55 PM5/23/12
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On 2012-05-23, ReVulse <ReV...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
I dunno. I like your reviews. They follow a simple capsule formula:

PLOT SYNOPSIS

COUPLA MISCELLANEOUS DETAILS

SUMMARY (including film's origins and genre) + RECOMMENDATION (or otherwise)

They're condensed and easy to actually skim for the relevant information if I'm
pressed for time.

--
"The GOP wants to shrink the size of government ... So they can fit the
government in your vagina."
- Dan Savage.

Jared

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May 24, 2012, 12:06:30 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 4:53 am, Dr Walpurgis <burke.denni...@cunting.hun> wrote:
>
> I'm only disappointed to find out that someone who seemed to be PUTTING THE
> GRAFT IN turns out to be as BONE IDLE as the rest of us.
>
> Either way, I enjoyed reading them.

I'm with you. NO HARM, NO FOUL (which I don't know what means but I
read it in a Stephen King book so it's on topic).

Not only have I enjoyed the reviews, I've enjoyed finding out that
Revulse is really Andy, Internet Detective. They should make a film
about him hunting down his personal Moriarty, the dastardly
Bonestructure.

ReVulse

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May 24, 2012, 7:54:53 AM5/24/12
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So you don't read The White Lady's posts? If you did, you realise it was
her who made the discovery and not me.

--
#Andy#

Lesmond

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May 24, 2012, 9:17:39 AM5/24/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 21:06:30 -0700 (PDT), Jared wrote:
Him reposting reviews is way better than his inability to quote properly.
THAT pisses me off. And he's not the only one.

Kishin

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May 24, 2012, 5:53:00 PM5/24/12
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Lesmond wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 21:06:30 -0700 (PDT), Jared wrote:
>
>> On May 24, 4:53˙am, Dr Walpurgis<burke.denni...@cunting.hun> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm only disappointed to find out that someone who seemed to be PUTTING THE
>>> GRAFT IN turns out to be as BONE IDLE as the rest of us.
>>>
>>> Either way, I enjoyed reading them.
>>
>> I'm with you. NO HARM, NO FOUL (which I don't know what means but I
>> read it in a Stephen King book so it's on topic).
>>
>> Not only have I enjoyed the reviews, I've enjoyed finding out that
>> Revulse is really Andy, Internet Detective. They should make a film
>> about him hunting down his personal Moriarty, the dastardly
>> Bonestructure.
>
> Him reposting reviews is way better than his inability to quote properly.
> THAT pisses me off. And he's not the only one.

Yes, it does sometimes make conversations hard to follow.

--

Kishin

Mr Q. Z. Diablo

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May 24, 2012, 6:51:57 PM5/24/12
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On 2012-05-24, Lesmond <les...@verizon.net> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
Mr Smith is another with a Fisher Price newsreader that doesn't seem to quote
properly. It pisses me off, too, but not hugely. Mild irritation is probably
as bad as it gets.

Jared

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May 24, 2012, 11:59:50 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 9:54 pm, ReVulse <ReVu...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

> So you don't read The White Lady's posts? If you did, you realise it was
> her who made the discovery and not me.

I don't want to watch a movie about The White Lady.

I imagine it would be like watching Ken Loach do torture porn.

Blackwingbear

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May 25, 2012, 4:30:20 PM5/25/12
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On Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:59:50 PM UTC-4, Jared wrote:
> I don't want to watch a movie about The White Lady.

Well, I liked MAY.....

deadrodentyping

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May 28, 2012, 11:03:28 AM5/28/12
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"Mr Q. Z. Diablo" <dia...@thisbitisnotreal.freakishandunnatural.net>
wrote in news:4fbd8793$0$29992$c3e8da3$5496...@news.astraweb.com:

> On 2012-05-23, ReVulse <ReV...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk>
> unwisely decided to post the following to Usenet:
>> On Tue, 22 May 2012 14:24:24 -0700, bonestructure wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, I made a bad decision. Try being me some time.
>>
>> I'm confused more than anything. I don't quite understand why you did
>> it (and did it repeatedly). It's not like you're getting paid for
>> posting reviews here. I find it especially odd for a writer. I value
>> the opinions of people here more than on other sites, so I'd prefer
>> your own reviews even if it's just "good" or "bad".
>>
>> My reviews are generally shite - badly worded, poorly laid out and
>> often disjointed - but I hope they give people a rough idea of
>> whether the film will be their sort of thing.
>
> I dunno. I like your reviews. They follow a simple capsule formula:
>
> PLOT SYNOPSIS
>
> COUPLA MISCELLANEOUS DETAILS
>
> SUMMARY (including film's origins and genre) + RECOMMENDATION (or
> otherwise)
>
> They're condensed and easy to actually skim for the relevant
> information if I'm pressed for time.
>
Agreed on all points. They're good.

deadrodentyping

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May 28, 2012, 11:04:36 AM5/28/12
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deadrodentyping

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May 28, 2012, 11:04:53 AM5/28/12
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Jared <bi...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:64e47664-e9fd-49d7-b251-
135db1...@o3g2000pby.googlegroups.com:
lol

The White Lady

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May 28, 2012, 12:19:47 PM5/28/12
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ReVulse <ReV...@psychaoticREMOVETHIS.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in news:jpl7id$459
$1...@dont-email.me:
Honestly, who the fuck else would go out of their way to humiliate a half-
dead, harmless old man?

The White Lady

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May 28, 2012, 12:21:36 PM5/28/12
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The White Lady <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
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I never get what I deserve.

bonestructure

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May 28, 2012, 2:39:19 PM5/28/12
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> > I don't want to watch a movie about The White Lady.
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> > I imagine it would be like watching Ken Loach do torture porn.
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> lol

That would probably be hilarious if I had any idea who Ken Loach was.

deadrodentyping

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May 30, 2012, 9:24:38 AM5/30/12
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The White Lady <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
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lol
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