All I'll say is it was a damn good job that both James Bond and Felix
Lighter were on hand to save the day!
--
Best Wishes
Simon (aka Dark Angel)
Dark Angel's Realm of Horror - http://www.realmofhorror.co.uk
I've had more entertaining poops.
How can you screw up that story? The 3 previous versions were all good
(first and second better than third), but this thing just kept doing
things wrong and became some sort of Hollywood zombie movie with car
chases and crap. I saw it in a cinema in Las Vegas while I was on
vacation... and everyone else walked out! I was the only one strong
enough to stay through until the end.
- Bill
>- Bill
The dumbest things of all is that NONE of the film versions are faithful to
the book. Siegal's version kind of comes close. With so many attempts to
film the same story one would think eventually someone would actually use
the source material rather than just the idea.
I've been meaning to see this, since I love OliverHirschbiegel's DAS
EXPERIMENT and DOWNFALL... but God help me I can't sit through anything with
Nicole Kidman!
Cheers,
B
Not even THE OTHERS or EYES WIDE SHUT?
what is it about that story that makes hollywood remake it every 5 years !?
--
Gareth.
that fly...... is your magic wand....
http://dsbdsb.mybrute.com
you fight better when you have a bear!
More like 15 years (or thereabouts)!
Well, now you're just proving his point.
--
If there's a nuclear winter, at least it'll snow.
The pod people still exist... everywhere!
> I've been meaning to see this, since I love OliverHirschbiegel's DAS
> EXPERIMENT and DOWNFALL... but God help me I can't sit through anything with
> Nicole Kidman!
I think INVASION single-handedly disproves the Auteur theory.
Not even DAYS OF THUNDER and FAR AND AWA... I mean... DEAD CALM and
TO DIE FOR?
Or even BATMAN FOREVER or FUR or MALICE??
> >>God help me I can't sit through anything with
> >> Nicole Kidman!
> >>
> >Not even THE OTHERS or EYES WIDE SHUT?
> Well, now you're just proving his point.
Not enough gore in _The Others_ for you, eh?
--
alt.flame Special Forces
"I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment to be called an
agnostic. I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure -- that
is all that agnosticism means." -- Clarence Darrow
[..]
> > Finally seen the 2007 remake of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" AKA "The
> > Invasion".
> >
> > All I'll say is it was a damn good job that both James Bond and Felix
> > Lighter were on hand to save the day!
> what is it about that story that makes hollywood remake it every 5 years !?
People are timid, and dumb, so they're more likely to go to a movie if the
material is something they've already been sold.
>Lesmond <les...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:30:06 -0800 (PST), Blackwingbear wrote:
>> >On Nov 6, 1:48?am, "Brian Christgau" <briana...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> >>God help me I can't sit through anything with
>> >> Nicole Kidman!
>> >>
>> >Not even THE OTHERS or EYES WIDE SHUT?
>
>> Well, now you're just proving his point.
>
> Not enough gore in _The Others_ for you, eh?
No, it was just unoriginal, dull and predictable. No wonder you liked it.
Actually, it was none of those. It was well-made.
Maybe you just find it "hip" to knock everything,eh?
>On Nov 13, 12:53ÿam, "Lesmond" <lesm...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> > ÿNot enough gore in _The Others_ for you, eh?
>>
>> No, it was just unoriginal, dull and predictable. ÿNo wonder you liked it.
>
>Actually, it was none of those. It was well-made.
It had high production values and decent acting. The rest was nothing I had
never seen before. And I knew the "twist" as soon as she mentioned no one
had delivered mail. And then they beat you over the head with "clues" for
the next hour and a half. It was like being spoon fed.
>
>Maybe you just find it "hip" to knock everything,eh?
Yes, yes. It doesn't even matter if I like something everyone else hates.
Everything I do is "hip".
Hell, I'm a middle aged mom and cub scout leader. How much more "hip" could
I possibly be?
Predictable? Yes, it was, despite the lengthy red herring in there that
led us to believe it was actually an alternate history story or something
instead. However, we also all know how Shakespeare's plays end and, for that
matter, how Ken Burns's documentary "The Civil War" ends. That has nothing to
do with how much one can appreciate the artistry, however, for they're not
works that are all that dependent on surprise (unlike, say, a fair number of
M. Night Shyamalan films).
You can make a pretty decent case for "unoriginal", too. I didn't mind that
aspect, either. How much is there to say about ghosts that hasn't already been
said, anyway?
You're one of those sissies who waited for it to come out on homevideo,
aren't you? _The Others_ is one of those movies that, like so many ghost
stories, is all about atmosphere. Hats off -- way off -- to Alejandro
Amenabar and his cameraman Javier Aguirresarobe; whatever you might say about
the conventions of this kind of story, movies are a visual medium, and _The
Others_ looks GREAT. I don't know what reducing it to a bunch of dots on a
much smaller screen did to it, but whatever it was I am confident it wasn't
good.
It may have been deliberately paced, but there are some pictures that just
wouldn't work any other way; indeed, I wouldn't *want* _The Others_ or _Eyes
Wide Shut_ to move any faster, 'cause that wouldn't give you enough time to
masticate the great cinematography, or all the other neat stuff those movies
give you.
But all that television watching has no doubt made your attention span too
short to appreciate something so grown up.
I only noticed the "spoon-feeding" the second time
through,myself...And I'm the same one who hates M. Night Shyamalan for
"spoon-feeding". His films can be predicted in the first 10-15
minutes. Admittedly, the Truman Capote film THE INNOCENTS did use the
plot previously...
> Hell, I'm a middle aged mom and cub scout leader. How much more "hip" could
> I possibly be?
You could always achieve hipsterdom by being part of the cult of
Martha Stewart... given that you're a horror-fan, I assume you are
smarter than that though!!!
>On Nov 13, 9:23ÿam, "Lesmond" <lesm...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> It had high production values and decent acting. ÿThe rest was nothing I had
>> never seen before. ÿAnd I knew the "twist" as soon as she mentioned no one
>> had delivered mail. ÿAnd then they beat you over the head with "clues" for
>> the next hour and a half. ÿIt was like being spoon fed.
>
>I only noticed the "spoon-feeding" the second time
>through,myself...And I'm the same one who hates M. Night Shyamalan for
>"spoon-feeding". His films can be predicted in the first 10-15
>minutes. Admittedly, the Truman Capote film THE INNOCENTS did use the
>plot previously...
>
>> Hell, I'm a middle aged mom and cub scout leader. ÿHow much more "hip" could
>> I possibly be?
>
>You could always achieve hipsterdom by being part of the cult of
>Martha Stewart... given that you're a horror-fan, I assume you are
>smarter than that though!!!
Martha Stewart gives me hives.
>Admittedly, the Truman Capote film THE INNOCENTS did use the
>plot previously...
Not really on both accounts - THE INNOCENTS is not a Truman Capote film he
only wrote some of the dialogue and THE TURN OF THE SCREW is not the same
plot as used in the Kidman film.
He wrote most of the dialogue...Considering he wrote the
screenplay...lol
Not EXACTLY same plot. Came damn close..
Not if you've read Henry James book.
I have, and that IS vastly different. However, the films are generally
vastly different (and not as good) as the book.
[..]
> >Maybe you just find it "hip" to knock everything,eh?
> Yes, yes. It doesn't even matter if I like something everyone else hates.
Like?
--
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"If you're a weird, outcast teenager, keep in mind that the people who are
making your life miserable -- these are the happiest days of their lives. When
you are just starting to come into your own, they'll be settling into their
default careers and default lives, wondering why they're not happy."
-- Poppy Z. Brite
>Lesmond <les...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> [..]
>
>> >Maybe you just find it "hip" to knock everything,eh?
>
>> Yes, yes. It doesn't even matter if I like something everyone else hates.
>
> Like?
Dead Heat
I'll agree it's horrid but fun. Hell, I like both LIFEFORCE and
SOCIETY, and look at the turkeys they are!
Lifeforce is great. I have never seen Society. I suppose I should.
This kid has a sinking feeling that his family (and other yuppie-like
beautiful people) aren't quite human...
society is a right laugh...well worth a look
--
regards from BOD!
"dont worry yoko, its only a friggin water pist...."
JOHN LENNON 1980
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>
>"Blackwingbear" <blackw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>On Nov 21, 12:34 pm, "Lesmond" <lesm...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Lifeforce is great. I have never seen Society. I suppose I should.
>
>>This kid has a sinking feeling that his family (and other yuppie-like
>>beautiful people) aren't quite human...
>
>society is a right laugh...well worth a look
I have added it to my queue.