Oh! Great! More OT stress!
John Donaldson
Brightest Galactic Flash Ever Detected Hits Earth
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 18 February, 2005
A huge explosion halfway across the galaxy packed so much power it
briefly altered Earth's upper atmosphere in December, astronomers said
Friday.
No known eruption beyond our solar system has ever appeared as bright
upon arrival.
But you could not have seen it, unless you can top the X-ray vision of
Superman: In gamma rays, the event equaled the brightness of the full
Moon's reflected visible light.
The blast originated about 50,000 light-years away and was detected Dec.
27. A light-year is the distance light travels in a year, about 6
trillion miles (10 trillion kilometers).
The commotion was caused by a special variety of neutron star known as a
magnetar. These fast-spinning, compact stellar corpses -- no larger than
a big city -- create intense magnetic fields that trigger explosions.
The blast was 100 times more powerful than any other similar eruption
witnessed, said David Palmer of Los Alamos National Laboratory, one of
several researchers around the world who monitored the event with
various telescopes.
"Had this happened within 10 light-years of us, it would have severely
damaged our atmosphere and possibly have triggered a mass extinction,"
said Bryan Gaensler of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
(CfA).
There are no magnetars close enough to worry about, however, Gaensler
and two other astronomers told SPACE.com. But the strength of the
tempest has them marveling over the dying star's capabilities while also
wondering if major species die-offs in the past might have been
triggered by stellar explosions.
'Once-in-a-lifetime'
The Sun is a middle-aged star about 8 light-minutes from us. It's
tantrums, though cosmically pitiful compared to the magnetar explosion,
routinely squish Earth's protective magnetic field and alter our
atmosphere, lighting up the night sky with colorful lights called aurora.
Solar storms also alter the shape of Earth's ionosphere, a region of the
atmosphere 50 miles (80 kilometers) up where gas is so thin that
electrons can be stripped from atoms and molecules -- they are ionized
-- and roam free for short periods. Fluctuations in solar radiation
cause the ionosphere to expand and contract.
"The gamma rays hit the ionosphere and created more ionization, briefly
expanding the ionosphere," said Neil Gehrels, lead scientist for NASA's
gamma-ray watching Swift observatory.
Gehrels said in an email interview that the effect was similar to a
solar-induced disruption but that the effect was "much smaller than a
big solar flare."
Still, scientists were surprised that a magnetar so far away could alter
the ionosphere.
"That it can reach out and tap us on the shoulder like this, reminds us
that we really are linked to the cosmos," said Phil Wilkinson of IPS
Australia, that country's space weather service.
"This is a once-in-a-lifetime event," said Rob Fender of Southampton
University in the UK. "We have observed an object only 20 kilometers
across [12 miles], on the other side of our galaxy, releasing more
energy in a tenth of a second than the Sun emits in 100,000 years."
Some researchers have speculated that one or more known mass extinctions
hundreds of millions of years ago might have been the result of a
similar blast altering Earth's atmosphere. There is no firm data to
support the idea, however. But astronomers say the Sun might have been
closer to other stars in the past.
A similar blast within 10 light-years of Earth "would destroy the ozone
layer," according to a CfA statement, "causing abrupt climate change and
mass extinctions due to increased radiation."
The all-clear has been sounded, however.
"None of the known sample [of magnetars] are closer than about
4,000-5,000 light years from us," Gaensler said. "This is a very safe
distance."
Cause a mystery
Researchers don't know exactly why the burst was so incredible. The
star, named SGR 1806-20, spins once on its axis every 7.5 seconds, and
it is surrounded by a magnetic field more powerful than any other object
in the universe.
"We may be seeing a massive release of magnetic energy during a
'starquake' on the surface of the object," said Maura McLaughlin of the
University of Manchester in the UK.
Another possibility is that the magnetic field more or less snapped in a
process scientists call magnetic reconnection.
Gamma rays are the highest form of radiation on the electromagnetic
spectrum, which includes X-rays, visible light and radio waves too.
The eruption was also recorded by the National Science Foundation's Very
Large Array of radio telescopes, along with other European satellites
and telescopes in Australia.
Explosive details
A neutron star is the remnant of a star that was once several times more
massive than the Sun. When their nuclear fuel is depleted, they explode
as a supernova. The remaining dense core is slightly more massive than
the Sun but has a diameter typically no more than 12 miles (20 kilometers).
Millions of neutron stars fill the Milky Way galaxy. A dozen or so are
ultra-magnetic neutron stars -- magnetars. The magnetic field around one
is about 1,000 trillion gauss, strong enough to strip information from a
credit card at a distance halfway to the Moon, scientists say.
Of the known magnetars, four are called soft gamma repeaters, or SGRs,
because they flare up randomly and release gamma rays. The flare on SGR
1806-20 unleashed about 10,000 trillion trillion trillion watts of power.
"The next biggest flare ever seen from any soft gamma repeater was
peanuts compared to this incredible Dec. 27 event," said Gaensler of the
CfA.
Lynn
"John Donaldson" <jwd...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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Now, that was very interestin! And another reason why space exploration is
so important!
ReVulse
Yes, all that effort and calculation just so Donaldson could post it
to an indifferent audience.
#Andy#
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
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> Yes, all that effort and calculation just so Donaldson could post it
> to an indifferent audience.
>
> #Andy#
>
Actually I archived it, though I'm about 1.5 trillion articles ahead of it
demonstrating in one way or another why Junior is a complete FUCKING FACIST
FUCKWIT.
--
"Women are attracted to power, and Steve doesn't have any." --American Dad.
John Donaldson
> ReVulse wrote
>
>> Yes, all that effort and calculation just so Donaldson could post it
>> to an indifferent audience.
Don't blame me when you find yourself alone in the hold of an
intergalactic freighter with a babblefish in your ear ....
I warned you all!!!!!!!
>
> Actually I archived it, though I'm about 1.5 trillion articles ahead
of it demonstrating in one way or another why Junior is a complete
FUCKING FACIST FUCKWIT.
>
See the video of Clinton & "Senior" in Thailand together today on the
news. Hanging out at a former tourist beach/hotel. What a laff .......
Carter was off enjoying the launch of a f*cking warship with his name on
it ......
Former Presidents, can't wait to see what "Junior" gets to do .......
Lynn
> Don't blame me when you find yourself alone in the hold of an
> intergalactic freighter with a babblefish in your ear ....
>
> I warned you all!!!!!!!
LOL!
Lynn
"ReVulse" <ReV...@psychaoticREMOVE.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Yes, all that effort and calculation just so Donaldson could post it
> to an indifferent audience.
Who's indifferent?
James J. Dominguez
John Donaldson shared this:
> Don't blame me when you find yourself alone in the hold of an
> intergalactic freighter with a babblefish in your ear ....
> I warned you all!!!!!!!
Seen the new trailer for the HHGG movie?
I was still holding out some hope that it would be good, but that
has mostly gone ou the window now. WHat the FUCK is up with all that
idiotic slapstick?
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+----------------------------------+------------------------------+
| James J. Dominguez (aka DexX) | dexx[AT]aanet[DOT]com[DOT]au |
+----------------------------------+------------------------------+
| "That makes you feel like you fought for nothing or you fought |
| for a liar. They're telling me I went out there and I got my |
| leg blown off for a liar, and I know that's just not true." |
| - US Army Private First Class Tristan Wyatt |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
ReVulse
I don't know and I'm not that bothered.
#Andy#
bod
"Lynn" <pute...@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "John Donaldson" <jwd...@rcn.com> wrote in message
> news:HbCdnV3O1fE...@rcn.net...
>> http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/bright_flash_050218.html
>> "solar flare stuff"
>
> Now, that was very interestin! And another reason why space exploration is
> so important!
>
ok lynn..ill go with this one, why is space exploration important?
--
regards from BOD!
"dont worry yoko, its only a friggin water pist...."
JOHN LENNON 1980
see bod pissing in the wind at...
www.bodland.co.uk the home of bod!
Lynn
"bod" <bigfuck...@bodland.com> wrote in message
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> ok lynn..ill go with this one, why is space exploration important?
Simply to learn more,
maybe we can fix problems here on earth
if we know more about what's out there.
To become even more advanced in technology.
Learn how to use some power from nuclear energy
for our energy resources, I'm not a rocket scientist, don't
know what exactly, just know it's important for civilization's
advancement.
John Donaldson
> "bod" wrote
>>ok lynn..ill go with this one, why is space exploration important?
>
> Simply to learn more,
> advancement.
>
If we don't we will keep fighting over the same fucking chunk o'land
again & again (population control?) until someone drops the big one and
we are all gone!!!!!!!!
We are on a fucking rock! It'd be better to be on 2 or 3 fucking rocks!
.... far apart! Called survival ... something that seperates us from
the Dodo!
P.S. There is no babblefish (those are voices from your right lobe!!!!).
Andrew
>>ok lynn..ill go with this one, why is space exploration important?
Lynn wrote:
> Simply to learn more,
> maybe we can fix problems here on earth
> if we know more about what's out there.
> To become even more advanced in technology.
> Learn how to use some power from nuclear energy
> for our energy resources, I'm not a rocket scientist, don't
> know what exactly, just know it's important for civilization's
> advancement.
Rocket engines burning fuel so fast
Up into the night sky they blast
Through the universe the engines whine
Could it be the end of man and time
Back on earth the flame of life burns low
Everywhere is misery and woe
Pollution kills the air, the land and sea
Man prepares to meet his destiny
Rocket engines burning fuel so fast
Up into the night sky so vast
Burning metal through the atmosphere
Earth remains in worry, hate and fear
With the hateful battles raging on
rockets flying to the glowing sun
Through the empires of eternal void
Freedom from the final suicide
Freedom fighters sent out to the sun
escape from brainwashed minds and pollution.
Leave the earth to all its sin and hate
find another world where freedom waits.
Past the stars in fields of ancient void
Through the shields of darkness where they find
Love upon a land a world unknown
where the sons of freedom make their home
Leave the earth to Satan and his slaves
leave them to their future in the grave
Make a home where love is there to stay
Andrew
Lynn
"Andrew" <manowa...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Did you write that? I love it! Wow!!
Lesmond
>Lynn wrote:
>> "bod" wrote
>>
>>>ok lynn..ill go with this one, why is space exploration important?
>>
>> Simply to learn more,
>> <SNIP> just know it's important for civilization's
>> advancement.
>>
>If we don't we will keep fighting over the same fucking chunk o'land
>again & again (population control?) until someone drops the big one and
>we are all gone!!!!!!!!
>
>We are on a fucking rock! It'd be better to be on 2 or 3 fucking rocks!
> .... far apart! Called survival ... something that seperates us from
>the Dodo!
Hahahahahaha!
Good job.
--
If they knew how I felt, they'd bury me alive.
bod
but that stuff about the solar flair was fucking pointless...and cities on
the moon are christ knows how far away...shit, were not sure we realy made
it to the moon at all in 69??
say some big solar flare was to happen and wipe out the planet, there would
be no advantage in knowing what was happening because we would all be fucked
anyway!!
ok keep the studying up, but lets not get carried away...this shits way too
expencive and blowing up space shuttles seems like the odds are stacked in
the favour of not realy bothering too much....
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
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> .this shits way too
> expencive and blowing up space shuttles seems like the odds are
> stacked in the favour of not realy bothering too much....
>
The space shuttles & the space lab are basically doing zilch to advance
science, from what I've read.
bod
"Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia" <ne...@newb.com> wrote in message
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> "bod" <bigfuck...@bodland.com> wrote in
> news:3806riF...@individual.net:
>
>> .this shits way too
>> expencive and blowing up space shuttles seems like the odds are
>> stacked in the favour of not realy bothering too much....
>>
>
> The space shuttles & the space lab are basically doing zilch to advance
> science, from what I've read.
mind you, if it wasnt for the americans wasting so much of their hard earned
tax money on the space programe, we wouldnt have non stick frying pans or
disposable nappies...two inventions we realy couldnt do without...one heart
attack inducing lazyness and another that enables lazy fucking mothers more
time to watch jerry springer..
whoopy fucking doo!!
maybe that hard earned tax money could possibly be spent on issues that
realy are going to affect us all one day like global warming...or dropping
nukes on the middle east!!??
John Donaldson
> but that stuff about the solar flair was fucking pointless...and cities on
> the moon are christ knows how far away...shit, were not sure we realy made
> it to the moon at all in 69??
> say some big solar flare was to happen and wipe out the planet, there would
> be no advantage in knowing what was happening because we would all be fucked
> anyway!!
> ok keep the studying up, but lets not get carried away...this shits way too
> expencive and blowing up space shuttles seems like the odds are stacked in
> the favour of not realy bothering too much....
>
>
LOL! You sure you are not American?
P.S. Is the Flat Earth Society still in existence?
The White Lady
wrote:
>Simply to learn more,
>maybe we can fix problems here on earth
>if we know more about what's out there.
>To become even more advanced in technology.
>Learn how to use some power from nuclear energy
>for our energy resources, I'm not a rocket scientist, don't
>know what exactly, just know it's important for civilization's
>advancement.
Fuck that, I want an ET.
Lynn
> but that stuff about the solar flair was fucking pointless...and cities on
> the moon are christ knows how far away...shit, were not sure we realy made
> it to the moon at all in 69??
> say some big solar flare was to happen and wipe out the planet, there
> would be no advantage in knowing what was happening because we would all
> be fucked anyway!!
> ok keep the studying up, but lets not get carried away...this shits way
> too expencive and blowing up space shuttles seems like the odds are
> stacked in the favour of not realy bothering too much....
Space exploration is worth the money if we can find important discoveries
that
will help out our planet from being destroyed. Global warming is really not
that
big of a problem as enviromentalists would want us to believe, they just
want money
too, it only raises the earth's temperature about 1 degree every so many
years. So it raises
us from 99 to 100 in a few years, not that much of a difference, the only
problem is if it melts
the solar ice caps the world will be gone from a giant flood, but we are
working on keeping that
intact, scientific explorations, including space exploration is needed in
order to help our planet to
survive. IMO! I hate fighting just the way I feel, if you don't agree,
that's ok with me, your entitled
to feel the way you want to. You just asked and this is my opinion.
Lynn
"Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia" <ne...@newb.com> wrote in message
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> The space shuttles & the space lab are basically doing zilch to advance
> science, from what I've read.
Maybe you need to read some stuff from the other point of view too, to
get a balance, just check it out.
Lynn
> LOL! You sure you are not American?
I'm pretty sure he's not.
Lynn
> mind you, if it wasnt for the americans wasting so much of their hard
> earned tax money on the space programe, we wouldnt have non stick frying
> pans or disposable nappies...two inventions we realy couldnt do
> without...one heart attack inducing lazyness and another that enables lazy
> fucking mothers more time to watch jerry springer..
> whoopy fucking doo!!
> maybe that hard earned tax money could possibly be spent on issues that
> realy are going to affect us all one day like global warming...or dropping
> nukes on the middle east!!??
Wasting our money, no, using it to do important things, why do your care
anyway
if your not American? I don't care how your country spends it's money. If we
do
discover something monumental, your country won't think it's stupid, will
they?
Our hard earned dollars are working on a solution to Global warming. And
the
discussion always makes it's way back to the war on Iraq doens't it? Space
exploration
really has nothing to do with that, let's stay on topic.
Lynn
"The White Lady" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Fuck that, I want an ET.
Who cares!
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
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> Wasting our money, no, using it to do important things, why do your
> care anyway
> if your not American? I don't care how your country spends it's money.
> If we do
> discover something monumental, your country won't think it's stupid,
> will they?
> Our hard earned dollars are working on a solution to Global
> warming. And
> the
> discussion always makes it's way back to the war on Iraq doens't it?
> Space exploration
> really has nothing to do with that, let's stay on topic.
>
A. How much is the Bush administration paying you?
B. Point to one significant scientific study that's been done on the Space
Shuttle, SpaceLab, or will be done in the future by manned exploration.
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
@news01.roc.ny:
It's what most scientists say, from what I've read.
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
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>
> Space exploration is worth the money if we can find important
> discoveries that
> will help out our planet from being destroyed. Global warming is
> really not that
> big of a problem as enviromentalists would want us to believe, they
> just want money
> too, it only raises the earth's temperature about 1 degree every so
> many years. So it raises
> us from 99 to 100 in a few years, not that much of a difference, the
> only problem is if it melts
> the solar ice caps the world will be gone from a giant flood, but we
> are working on keeping that
> intact, scientific explorations, including space exploration is needed
> in order to help our planet to
> survive. IMO! I hate fighting just the way I feel, if you don't agree,
> that's ok with me, your entitled
> to feel the way you want to. You just asked and this is my opinion.
>
>
Fucking christ...
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
ReVulse
> I'm not a rocket scientist
Why do I find that comment so amusing ?
#Andy#
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
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Well I'm flabbergasted, and it takes a lot to gast my flabbers.
Lynn
> A. How much is the Bush administration paying you?
>
> B. Point to one significant scientific study that's been done on the Space
> Shuttle, SpaceLab, or will be done in the future by manned exploration.
I recieved more taxes back this year than ever before, that's
to thank for Bush's Administration.
The Bush Administration is trying to pass the bills, but the democrats
keep stopping it.
Lynn
Don't know, why do you?
Gotta thing for rocket scientists
Lynn
Does it?
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
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>
> "Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia" <ne...@newb.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns960567B089...@68.6.19.6...
>
>> A. How much is the Bush administration paying you?
>>
>> B. Point to one significant scientific study that's been done on the
>> Space Shuttle, SpaceLab, or will be done in the future by manned
>> exploration.
>
> I recieved more taxes back this year than ever before, that's
> to thank for Bush's Administration.
>
Remember to thank the dead & maimed on your way out.
> The Bush Administration is trying to pass the bills, but the democrats
> keep stopping it.
>
It's people like you that keep people like me feeling good about
themselves.
>
Lynn
>> I recieved more taxes back this year than ever before, that's
>> to thank for Bush's Administration.
> Remember to thank the dead & maimed on your way out.
The war has nothing to do with how many taxes I recieved back
this year, it's what I paid into the government last year, that they
give back to you, Bush gave more than any other recent presidents.
Find out facts. Not just spout out because you hate Bush.
>> The Bush Administration is trying to pass the bills, but the democrats
>> keep stopping it.
>>
> It's people like you that keep people like me feeling good about
> themselves.
Why? Explain? Or can you? You think your better than me, because I want
some money to go for space exploration, to better the world? Stay on topic.
This discussion was not about the war, it's about space exploration, can you
follow?
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
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>
> "Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia" <ne...@newb.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96059F1DC7...@68.6.19.6...
>
>>> I recieved more taxes back this year than ever before, that's
>>> to thank for Bush's Administration.
>
>> Remember to thank the dead & maimed on your way out.
>
> The war has nothing to do with how many taxes I recieved back
It's a package deal, toots.
> this year, it's what I paid into the government last year, that they
> give back to you,
I'm sure those soldiers with missing 3 limbs are all-fired up about your
tax return.
>Bush gave more than any other recent presidents.
> Find out facts. .
>
Yes, like the WMDs...foreign terrorists in Iraq...walruses love oil
spills.....
>
>
>>> The Bush Administration is trying to pass the bills, but the
>>> democrats keep stopping it.
>>>
>> It's people like you that keep people like me feeling good about
>> themselves.
>
> Why? Explain? Or can you?
About how ill-informed & mis-informed you are? I can't create norance
out of your willing ignorance.
>You think your better than me, because I
> want some money to go for space exploration, to better the world? Stay
> on topic. This discussion was not about the war, it's about space
> exploration, can you follow?
>
My point was that AFAIK manned space exploration has not produced any
significant scientific research.
--
"Was that guy on TV a robot-monkey?" -SeaLab2021
Lynn
Can't talk about space, without bringing up Bush and the war.
bod
> I recieved more taxes back this year than ever before, that's
> to thank for Bush's Administration.
social security parasite?
bod
> Our hard earned dollars are working on a solution to Global warming.
fucking lol...your kidding, have you read the news lately...
or have i missed something?
bod
"ReVulse" <ReV...@psychaoticREMOVE.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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this whole argument is beyond sanity....lynn has got to be taking the
piss...i simply refuse to beleive there are people on this planet like her..
am i realy dreaming but i need to say once again that the most usefull
aplication the usa space programme has made to the entire human race is the
fucking non stick frying pan or "yous guys" can fuck up the enviroment even
more with disposable nappies..
The White Lady
wrote:
>this whole argument is beyond sanity....lynn has got to be taking the
>piss...i simply refuse to beleive there are people on this planet like her..
>am i realy dreaming but i need to say once again that the most usefull
>aplication the usa space programme has made to the entire human race is the
>fucking non stick frying pan or "yous guys" can fuck up the enviroment even
>more with disposable nappies..
I think they brought a rock back too, you can't argue with that.
John Donaldson
> "bod" wrote:
>
>>....lynn has got to be taking the
>
>
Remember TANG!
John Donaldson
> "Lynn" wrote
>> Our hard earned dollars are working on a solution to Global warming.
>
> fucking lol...your kidding, have you read the news lately...
> or have i missed something?
>
Didn't you hear, Bush is going to send 5,000 one-legged ex-servicemen to
the poles with paper fans for cooling & a plastic bucket for bailing.
He might have signed the International agreement but it was in french. :-)
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
>
> I think they brought a rock back too, you can't argue with that.
>
True. We might still be wondering if the moon was made of brie.
Lynn
> social security parasite?
Not hardly, that's money my hubby and I
both worked hard for, and with a family of
five we are barely ekeing it out, the money
helps buy my kids stuff they need, I don't
consider myself a leach at all! I could qualify
for all the government programs and I don't
use them so don't even go there!
Lynn
> fucking lol...your kidding, have you read the news lately...
> or have i missed something?
I think your watching the wrong news, or you
missed something!
Lynn
> bod wrote:
> Didn't you hear, Bush is going to send 5,000 one-legged ex-servicemen to
> the poles with paper fans for cooling & a plastic bucket for bailing.
>
> He might have signed the International agreement but it was in french.
> :-)
Is he going to send them or did they volunteer-Want- to go? There is a
difference.
Lynn
> this whole argument is beyond sanity....lynn has got to be taking the
> piss...i simply refuse to beleive there are people on this planet like
> her..
> am i realy dreaming but i need to say once again that the most usefull
> aplication the usa space programme has made to the entire human race is
> the fucking non stick frying pan or "yous guys" can fuck up the enviroment
> even more with disposable nappies..
Lots of people that share my opinions, Am I dreaming when I hear you
actually say
that the only contribution from the USA space program is the non-stick
frying pan?
Ok, you have got to be kidding me!!!! You are nuts if you actually believe
that!
You should do some research.
Lesmond
You can't make this stuff up, folks.
--
If they knew how I felt, they'd bury me alive.
Lynn
"Lesmond" <les...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>> Didn't you hear, Bush is going to send 5,000 one-legged ex-servicemen to
>>> the poles with paper fans for cooling & a plastic bucket for bailing.
>>>
>>> He might have signed the International agreement but it was in french.
>>> :-)
>>
>>Is he going to send them or did they volunteer-Want- to go? There is a
>>difference.
>
> You can't make this stuff up, folks.
Is it made up? Don't know, I didn't hear anything about him sending
ex-servicemen.
I wondered if he was making it up.
Nyctolops
wrote:
>this whole argument is beyond sanity....lynn has got to be taking the
>piss...i simply refuse to beleive there are people on this planet like her..
>am i realy dreaming but i need to say once again that the most usefull
>aplication the usa space programme has made to the entire human race is the
>fucking non stick frying pan or "yous guys" can fuck up the enviroment even
>more with disposable nappies..
I may be wrong, but didn't the technology that led to implantable
heart pacemakers come out of the early space program? I also seem to
remember there being a tremendous drive to make smaller, faster
onboard computers for the space capsules.
--
Nyctolops
Matt Kramer
"Lynn" <pute...@frontiernet.net> wrote in article
news:2kVSd.9942$6p7....@news01.roc.ny...
>
> "Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia" <ne...@newb.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9605BE0C1D...@68.6.19.6...
>
>
> Can't talk about space, without bringing up Bush and the war.
So leave it to rest, PLEASE! Lynn, I like you, espesially if you´re not
talking politics. It´s just not your strong side. So let´s do some on topic
horror talk: what did you think about EVENT HORIZON? Thumbs up or down?
Matt Kramer
We don`t solve mysteries in real life -
why should we do it in films ?
______________________________
Dario Argento
Lynn
"Matt Kramer" <matt....@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:3845ldF...@individual.net..
> So leave it to rest, PLEASE! Lynn, I like you, espesially if you愉e not
> talking politics. Itæ„€ just not your strong side. So letæ„€ do some on
> topic horror talk: what did you think about EVENT HORIZON? Thumbs up or
> down?
I haven't seen it yet. Is it good?
Lynn
"Nyctolops" <nyct...@vla.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:4kjp11te1e8h4j6h3...@4ax.com...
> I may be wrong, but didn't the technology that led to implantable
> heart pacemakers come out of the early space program? I also seem to
> remember there being a tremendous drive to make smaller, faster
> onboard computers for the space capsules.
> --
> Nyctolops
Thank you.
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
news:4kjp11te1e8h4j6h3...@4ax.com:
> I may be wrong, but didn't the technology that led to implantable
> heart pacemakers come out of the early space program?
As far as actually doing research *in space*, that's not it. That's
work done in labs down on here earth. Who's to say that all that money
sending a man to the moon to pick up some rocks wouldn't have been more
productive if spent on something else?
^TooL^
>
>
> So leave it to rest, PLEASE! Lynn, I like you, espesially if you´re not
> talking politics. It´s just not your strong side.
This is like my mate's dad. "If you leave aside the whole genocide thing,
Hitler was a really top bloke!"
^TooL^
Nyctolops
<ne...@newb.com> wrote:
>Nyctolops <nyct...@vla.nospam.com> wrote in
>news:4kjp11te1e8h4j6h3...@4ax.com:
>
>> I may be wrong, but didn't the technology that led to implantable
>> heart pacemakers come out of the early space program?
>
>As far as actually doing research *in space*, that's not it. That's
>work done in labs down on here earth. Who's to say that all that money
>sending a man to the moon to pick up some rocks wouldn't have been more
>productive if spent on something else?
I was replying to the assertion that all we got out of the space
program was Teflon (which is a very useful substance, by the way, much
more than non-stick frying pans) and disposible nappies, which were
both developed on Earth, as well. Most of the research done *in
space* is knowledge gathering. The ozone hole over the Arctic was
either first discovered or confirmed by photographs taken from space.
That led directly to the discontinuance of using fluorocarbons in
aerosol cans. As for the trips to the Moon, well, if you are going to
discount the advances made in technology that made it possible and
don't care about the knowledge gained from the rocks that the Moon is
indeed composed of the same sort of materials as the Earth, then I
guess you would consider it a waste of time, money and effort. We
will never know if spending the money elsewhere would have gotten us
more or less.
--
Nyctolops
bod
so now we have this fantastic wealth of usefull knowlege, what are we going
to do with it?
as it stands at the moment its all useless...we dont have the technology to
deal with these things...
we will all be extinct before we can apply any of this info to
use...computers and medical applications will all develop anyway on their
own....holiday photos from mars may look pretty but their of no more use
than a chocolate fireguard....you lot spent millions of dollars sending a
1984 programable "big track" up there to take a few snaps of rocks??...what
did you expect, a civilisation of green nymphomaniac women with 4 tits and
ears like shreck??
anyway , rockets are crap unless their home made and smash through your
neighbours window and set his curtains on fire...look at our british beagle
space probe...al least it had the deacency to smash to bits and tell us were
wasting our money...your lot arnt even happy even if a bunch of scientists
are blown to fucking bits on a shuttle in the process.
fucking star trecks got alot to answer to...
bod
FUCKING OUTSTANDING!!!!
bod
you know, i visited the concentration camp belsen earlier in the year, while
there they showed us a documentary on the german death camps....this was
shown in two rooms, one marked english version and the other door was marked
german version..obviously being english my wife and i went in the room
marked "english version"...we went in and sat down waiting for the film to
run...
also in the room was another english couple, who sat and said "i wonder what
the difference is between the german version and the british one?".....i had
to force myself to shut my mouth and not say " the english version is the
same as the german one, but they have turned the canned laughter off!"
bod
> discount the advances made in technology that made it possible and
> don't care about the knowledge gained from the rocks that the Moon is
> indeed composed of the same sort of materials as the Earth,
whats to say the whole thing happened..they brought back rock the same as
earth rock because they brought back a bag of plaster that went off from
joes diy store and some pebbles from whitby!!!??
the dog from that film you saw
>>> http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/bright_flash_050218.html
>
>>> "solar flare stuff"
>
>>
>> Now, that was very interestin! And another reason why space exploration
>> is
>> so important!
>>
>
> ok lynn..ill go with this one, why is space exploration important?
wouldnt you like to live on the moon? !
--
Gareth.
my Dad took me out for the evening and some girl was being a right
embarrassment
trying to get off with him, i had to pretend that i was his girlfreind
so that the stupid bitch would leave him alone, and we had a right
good laugh ahout it too.
'varizo' 26th Nov 04
http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/dsbmusic/
The White Lady
wrote:
>so now we have this fantastic wealth of usefull knowlege, what are we going
>to do with it?
>as it stands at the moment its all useless...we dont have the technology to
>deal with these things...
>we will all be extinct before we can apply any of this info to
>use...computers and medical applications will all develop anyway on their
>own....holiday photos from mars may look pretty but their of no more use
>than a chocolate fireguard....you lot spent millions of dollars sending a
>1984 programable "big track" up there to take a few snaps of rocks??...what
>did you expect, a civilisation of green nymphomaniac women with 4 tits and
>ears like shreck??
>anyway , rockets are crap unless their home made and smash through your
>neighbours window and set his curtains on fire...look at our british beagle
>space probe...al least it had the deacency to smash to bits and tell us were
>wasting our money...your lot arnt even happy even if a bunch of scientists
>are blown to fucking bits on a shuttle in the process.
>fucking star trecks got alot to answer to...
Ages ago, I was reading about this sort of thing. I can't remember the
details or who wrote it but the gist of it was answering the question
- why are human beings spending so much time, effort and money on
science & art when they should first ensure that every person on the
planet has their basic food/shelter/health needs met? The answer was
that the only thing that seperates us from other animals is this
desire to create and explore, that without this drive we would never
have evolved in the first place. Once we have the basics, none of us
say 'right that's it I'm going to give all my excess wealth to someone
who is worse off'. We look to improve our own positions even further.
That *is* humanity, not kindness, generosity, empathy and all this
other shit we pretend is at our core. It makes me think......what the
fuck am I on about now....I've been doing 3 days a week without a
drink since Christmas and it's sending me nuts....can't get out for
the bastard snow.....I was watching TCM3 last night, absolute rubbish,
when I suddenly remembered about this museum of weird stuff I once
went to as a child. It had skeletons, models and pictures of mutant
animals and people, pigs with two dicks etc. There were also pictures
of this American family who had supposedly been discovered living out
in the mountains or desert. They were all in-bred from one couple and
had killed and ate lots of people. I'm almost sure this museum was in
Bridlington. I might have dreamt it.
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
news:cluq119u8oh8a6adr...@4ax.com:
> Most of the research done *in
> space* is knowledge gathering.
Unmanned satellites.
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
news:cluq119u8oh8a6adr...@4ax.com:
> The ozone hole over the Arctic was
> either first discovered or confirmed by photographs taken from space.
A liberal/democratic/socialist lie.
John Donaldson
John Donaldson wrote
>>>>:-)
> I wondered if he was making it up.
If there is a smiley ....
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
> The answer was
> that the only thing that seperates us from other animals is this
> desire to create and explore, that without this drive we would never
> have evolved in the first place.
Mainly to show the world that the Russkies couldn't beat us to the moon.
Yup, we're animals alright, cuz only animals would be so fucking stupid.
WE'VE GOT AN AMERICAN FLAG ON THE MOON, SUCKAS. EAT THAT YA DIRTY COMMIE
BASTARDS.
The White Lady
<ne...@newb.com> wrote:
>Mainly to show the world that the Russkies couldn't beat us to the moon.
>Yup, we're animals alright, cuz only animals would be so fucking stupid.
>WE'VE GOT AN AMERICAN FLAG ON THE MOON, SUCKAS. EAT THAT YA DIRTY COMMIE
>BASTARDS.
MY DICK'S BIGGER THAN YOUR DICK
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
*cowers in fear and self-loathing*
John Donaldson
>
>>Nyctolops wrote
> <snip> As for the trips to the Moon, well, if you are going to
> discount the advances made in technology that made it possible and
> don't care about the knowledge gained from the rocks that the Moon is
> indeed composed of the same sort of materials as the Earth, then I
> guess you would consider it a waste of time, money and effort. We
> will never know if spending the money elsewhere would have gotten us
> more or less.
> --
I'm quite mezmerized by the pictures of far distant moons, rings, and
planet surfaces these days. Tis a shame MIR has turned out to be such a
underused station, although it's a good measure of how long man can
stay in space and good practice in repairing highly technical doodads &
thingamabobs with chewing gum and bent paper clips. Essential practice
for missions to other planets ........
John Donaldson
> as it stands at the moment its all useless...we dont have the technology to
> deal with these things...
> we will all be extinct before we can apply any of this info to
> use...
The Earth is Flat!!!!!!!!!
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
news:cluq119u8oh8a6adr...@4ax.com:
> Most of the research done *in
> space* is knowledge gathering.
FWIW here's some other perspectives:
Future of Space Exploration
Congressman Nick Smith, a Republican, represents Michigan's 7th
Congressional District
entire thing at -->
http://www.truthnews.net/world/2004080046.htm
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The benefits of manned space flight have been relatively few compared to
the costs. The Washington Post reports that the International Space
Station (ISS), if completed, is expected to run $17 billion over budget.
While manned shuttles provide some useful scientific information, the
major objective of many missions is simply to re-supply the space
station. We spent $25.4 billion on the 11 Apollo missions. We are
looking at $100 billion for the International Space Station. We spend
$3-$4 billion on the shuttle (approximately $6,000 per pound of
payload). These projects have provided relatively little scientific
discovery compared to cost benefit of unmanned missions.
Unmanned space missions have provided us with extremely useful and
interesting information, and at a much lower cost. For instance, the
Galileo project discovered and analyzed oceans and volcanoes on
Jupiter’s moons, and sent back information on the planet’s weather
patterns at a cost of $1.35 billion over 14 years. The Mars Pathfinder
mission, which operated three times longer than its original planned
lifetime, cost $270 million, provided our scientists with more than
16,000 images from Mars, 15 chemical analyses of rocks, and large
amounts of useful information on Martian winds and weather. The Mars
Rovers Opportunity and Spirit, which cost $800 million, built enormously
on the Pathfinder mission. The Kepler space telescope, costing $286
million, is expected to be operational by 2006. It will observe nearly
100,000 stars and any planets in orbit around them. This will allow us
to estimate how many earth-like planets capable of sustaining life exist
in the universe.
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http://mailman.efn.org/pipermail/skeptix/Week-of-Mon-20040719/000409.html
1. SPACE: JAMES VAN ALLEN CALLS FOR A DEBATE ON HUMAN SPACEFLIGHT
"Risk is high, cost is enormous, science is insignificant. Does
anyone have a good rationale for sending humans into space?" Van
Allen asks in Issues in Science and Technology, Summer 2004....Now, our
first great space scientist asks, "Is human spaceflight obsolete?"
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
news:Xns9603BCEE860A...@130.133.1.4:
> Seen the new trailer for the HHGG movie?
What is HHGG?
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
news:cluq119u8oh8a6adr...@4ax.com:
> Subject: Re: Oh! Great! More OT stress!
http://www.spacepolitics.com/archives/000277.html
John Donaldson
>
> Mainly to show the world that the Russkies couldn't beat us to the moon.
> Yup, we're animals alright, cuz only animals would be so fucking stupid.
> WE'VE GOT AN AMERICAN FLAG ON THE MOON, SUCKAS. EAT THAT YA DIRTY COMMIE
> BASTARDS.
>
Ain't it ironic that these days the U.S. is now dependent on the Ruskies
to get into space and use MIR.......
F*ckin U.S. astronauts are probably studying chinese so Bush can
accomplish his Mars mission.....
John Donaldson
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 10:23:51 GMT, Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
>
Isn't that my pussy is tighter than ....
John Donaldson
>>space* is knowledge gathering.
>
>
> FWIW here's some other perspectives:
>
Just imagine if Columbus would have been satisfied throwing in the ocean
a bottle with a note ........
Nyctolops
wrote:
>
>"Nyctolops" <nyct...@vla.nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:cluq119u8oh8a6adr...@4ax.com...
> As for the trips to the Moon, well, if you are going to
>> discount the advances made in technology that made it possible and
>> don't care about the knowledge gained from the rocks that the Moon is
>> indeed composed of the same sort of materials as the Earth,
>
>whats to say the whole thing happened..they brought back rock the same as
>earth rock because they brought back a bag of plaster that went off from
>joes diy store and some pebbles from whitby!!!??
Oh, are you one of the people who believe that all of the moon
missions were faked in Hollywood? I'll tell you one thing. I watched
hours and hours of the footage of the astronauts in flight and on the
Moon and if that was faked, it was by using far more convincing
photography than I have seen in any Hollywood movie and I watch a lot
of SF movies. I have talked to people who saw the launches first
hand. I am very sure that it actually happened.
--
Nyctolops
ReVulse
> what did you think about EVENT HORIZON? Thumbs up or down?
I quite liked it, although IIRC it seemed to borrow from several other
films such as Hellraiser.
But then again, I may have just liked it because one of the more
interesting bands I listen to (Velvet Acid Christ) use a huge amount of
film dialogue samples (including Event Horizon) and it's always a bit
weird to hear the familiar dialogue in context.
#Andy#
np: Sator Absentia - Binary Relativism Syndrome
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
news:pan.2005.02.23...@psychaoticREMOVE.fsnet.co.uk:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:39:46 +0100, Matt Kramer wrote:
>
>> what did you think about EVENT HORIZON? Thumbs up or down?
>
> I quite liked it, although IIRC it seemed to borrow from several other
> films such as Hellraiser.
>
Derivative but well-done, nonetheless.
Lynn
"ReVulse" <ReV...@psychaoticREMOVE.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.02.23...@psychaoticREMOVE.fsnet.co.uk...
> On > I quite liked it, although IIRC it seemed to borrow from several
> other
> films such as Hellraiser.
>
> But then again, I may have just liked it because one of the more
> interesting bands I listen to (Velvet Acid Christ) use a huge amount of
> film dialogue samples (including Event Horizon) and it's always a bit
> weird to hear the familiar dialogue in context.
I bet I would love this movie, Hellraiser is one of my favorites, I'll
definately have to watch it then!
Lynn
> Just imagine if Columbus would have been satisfied throwing in the ocean
> a bottle with a note ........
Exactly, exploration, just not space is very important!
My point exactly!
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
@news01.roc.ny:
Why, are there some hot naked Tahitian chicks roaming around on the
moon? Crikey, was Columbus trying to figure out how to live in a place
with neither oxygen nor water? He was just trying to get cheap silk and
spices by bypassing land routes controlled by Arab merchants. Luxury
goods and precious metals were the primary forces driving the age of
discovery.
ReVulse
> "Lynn" <pute...@frontiernet.net> wrote in news:WuqTd.10063$6p7.8298
> @news01.roc.ny:
>
>>
>> "John Donaldson" <jwd...@rcn.com> wrote in message
>> news:ddqdnUnsLNP...@rcn.net...
>>
>>
>>> Just imagine if Columbus would have been satisfied throwing in the
> ocean
>>
>>> a bottle with a note ........
>>
>> Exactly, exploration, just not space is very important!
>
>>
>
> Why, are there some hot naked Tahitian chicks roaming around on the
> moon?
No, but there's AMAZON WOMEN ON THE MOON.
#Andy#
Kendall
>
> > Our hard earned dollars are working on a solution to Global warming.
>
> fucking lol...your kidding, have you read the news lately...
> or have i missed something?
>
>
> regards from BOD!
Speaking of... I read in the WSJ last week that the paper, and the "hockey
stick" graph in particular, that started the furor
over global warming is now in question. The statistical method that was
used apparently was not very sound on this kind of
data. A geologist was able to create the same model output using random
data. It also did not account for known radical
swings in the last two centuries. Now that the author is being questioned,
he has stopped sharing any data on the subject.
Kendall
Jared Head
John Donaldson wrote:
> Just imagine if Columbus would have been satisfied throwing in the
ocean
> a bottle with a note ........
No Americans, ay? It's a nice thought, but someone would have
discovered it eventually.
Nyctolops
wrote:
This was exactly what was going on between the US and the USSR and I,
for one, was quite glad when the Arms Race of the 50s gave way to the
Space Race of the 60s. It was much less dangerous to the welfare of
the world.
--
Nyctolops
Nyctolops
wrote:
>so now we have this fantastic wealth of usefull knowlege, what are we going
>to do with it?
At present we are using the information gathered by the weather
satellites and the stockpile of weather information gathered through
the last couple of centuries to program a SuperCray to create the most
accurate model of the Earth's weather system to date. The long range
aim is to provide reasonably accurate long-range weather forecasts for
the entire world. Using this information, agriculturists will have
much better information to use to plan what to plant and when to gain
a maximum yield, thus increasing the world's food supply.
>as it stands at the moment its all useless...we dont have the technology to
>deal with these things...
>we will all be extinct before we can apply any of this info to
>use...
In that case, why do you care whether the US has a space program or
not?
>computers and medical applications will all develop anyway on their
>own....
Perhaps, but I doubt very much whether they would be as advanced as
they are now without the impetus of the space program.
>holiday photos from mars may look pretty but their of no more use
>than a chocolate fireguard....you lot spent millions of dollars sending a
>1984 programable "big track" up there to take a few snaps of rocks??...what
>did you expect, a civilisation of green nymphomaniac women with 4 tits and
>ears like shreck??
No, but we may gain enough knowledge to find out if Mars can be
terraformed sufficiently for people to live there someday. If there
is sufficient water there, it may be possible.
>anyway , rockets are crap unless their home made and smash through your
>neighbours window and set his curtains on fire...look at our british beagle
>space probe...al least it had the deacency to smash to bits and tell us were
>wasting our money...your lot arnt even happy even if a bunch of scientists
>are blown to fucking bits on a shuttle in the process.
>fucking star trecks got alot to answer to...
Oh, so any exploration or innovation which costs human lives should be
stopped at once? There go ships, railroads, automobiles and
airplanes. Come to think of it, people die falling off of horses and
bicycles, too. So everyone should have stuck to walking.
--
Nyctolops
Lesmond
>"Lynn" <pute...@frontiernet.net> wrote in news:WuqTd.10063$6p7.8298
>@news01.roc.ny:
>
>>
>> "John Donaldson" <jwd...@rcn.com> wrote in message
>> news:ddqdnUnsLNP...@rcn.net...
>>
>>
>>> Just imagine if Columbus would have been satisfied throwing in the
>ocean
>>
>>> a bottle with a note ........
>>
>> Exactly, exploration, just not space is very important!
>
>>
>
>Why, are there some hot naked Tahitian chicks roaming around on the
>moon?
Mars Needs Women!
--
If they knew how I felt, they'd bury me alive.
Lesmond
>On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:15:27 -0000, "bod" <bigfuck...@bodland.com>
>wrote:
>
>>so now we have this fantastic wealth of usefull knowlege, what are we going
>>to do with it?
>
>At present we are using the information gathered by the weather
>satellites and the stockpile of weather information gathered through
>the last couple of centuries to program a SuperCray to create the most
>accurate model of the Earth's weather system to date. The long range
>aim is to provide reasonably accurate long-range weather forecasts for
>the entire world.
Gosh, then we won't have to look out the window anymore to see if it's
raining!
> Using this information, agriculturists will have
>much better information to use to plan what to plant and when to gain
>a maximum yield, thus increasing the world's food supply.
This is a joke, right? Crops are planted where and when they grow. You
can't tell a farmer anywhere in the world "Oh, golly, there's gonna be a
monsoon in July, so plant long before or after that. Because, you know, if
you only have a two week window, you can grow all your crops, then, right?"
Predicting weather cannot and will not enable crops in anyway. Most crops
have to be planted for full seasons in temperate areas.
Genetic engineering and irradiation are and have been the only sciences
proven to strengthen crops that will grow throughout any weather condition
and are resistant to parasites. This is research independent of the space
program.
Look, I don't think space programs are necessarily useless. It's just that
they are right now.
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia
news:f3et111cta70s3blp...@4ax.com:
Good thing you weren't around for the arms race of the 80's.
The White Lady
wrote:
>Exactly, exploration, just not space is very important!
>My point exactly!
Fucking MONG.
The White Lady
wrote:
>Isn't that my pussy is tighter than ....
I could break your finger....
Lynn
Lynn
"Jared Head" <Jared....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109290568.3...@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
American people are decendendants from all around the world.
Even your country.
James J. Dominguez
> "James J. Dominguez" <de...@aanet.comNO.auSPAM> wrote:
>> Seen the new trailer for the HHGG movie?
Mad Mambo Master of Macedonia shared this:
> What is HHGG?
Douglas Adams' The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
Trailer looks dodgy as fuck, but I have read one sneak preview
review that says it is much better than tht trailer would suggest.
God I hope so...
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+----------------------------------+------------------------------+
| "That makes you feel like you fought for nothing or you fought |
| for a liar. They're telling me I went out there and I got my |
| leg blown off for a liar, and I know that's just not true." |
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Killer Kane
"Lynn" wrote:
>decendendants
Isn't that a medical condition where a person has in excess of a hundred
teeth?
--
http://www.contamination.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/marvellous.mp3
James J. Dominguez
> "John Donaldson" <jwd...@rcn.com> wrote:
>> LOL! You sure you are not American?
Lynn wrote:
> I'm pretty sure he's not.
You want evidence of a scientific breakthrough?
I give you Lynn - recipient of the world's first irony vaccine.
bod
"Kendall" <kendall...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:GpydnSfWDNb...@comcast.com...
there are lots of things taht ...bolocks,,,im to pissed ti=o have aserious
conversatiom...lets put global warming down to cow farts and american
pollution,,
--
regards from BOD!
"dont worry yoko, its only a friggin water pist...."
JOHN LENNON 1980
see bod pissing in the wind at...
www.bodland.co.uk the home of bod!