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FF7M3

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Does anyone else feel that the ending of this left something to be desired?
Like nothing was resolved? No matter what the ending was, it doesn't stop this
from being a great haunted house film.

Qwoteman

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SPOILER


I think the fact that George C. Scott's character survived was resolution
enough. I'm not saying I wouldn't have liked it to be a little more cut-&-dry,
but I think there is some resolution.

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synthuser

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The ending was something that kept me from giving this
stylish, creepy and intelligent story a perfect 10, for
many years... but the last 3 or 4 times I have
watched it, the ending though a bit of a change
in tempo from the rest of the film no longer
bothers me and now I see it as the intense
climax that I had been resisiting to accept
with previous viewings. :)

Anyway a brilliant film that is enjoyed
everytime I watch it.

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Laura

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synthuser wrote in message <36BB37...@sonic.net>...

>The ending was something that kept me from giving this
>stylish, creepy and intelligent story a perfect 10, for
>many years... but the last 3 or 4 times I have
>watched it, the ending though a bit of a change
>in tempo from the rest of the film no longer
>bothers me and now I see it as the intense
>climax that I had been resisiting to accept
>with previous viewings. :)

I've done that with endings where I changed my mind about liking or not
liking it later down the line.


Horroresq

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It's been a while since I've seen it, but as I recall the ending was fine.
I seem to remember when it isn't. I rank this one on a level close to The
Haunting.

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FrMerrin

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I can relate to this. For years I thought the ending to Carpenter's "The Thing"
was very bad, but I saw it on TV one Saturday night and it suddenly clicked
into place for me. Very bleak indeed.


Mike
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Carole Johnson

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Well, I suppose the ending could have been better, but THE CHANGELING
redeems itself with the seance scenes. We're talking scary there.

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Chris J. P.

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Horroresq wrote:
It's been a while since I've seen it, but as I recall the ending was fine. I
seem to remember when it isn't. I rank this one on a level close to The
Haunting.
__________________________________________________________________________
The Changeling
The Uninvited w/Ray Miland
and The Haunting.

These are my three all time favorites. Interchangeable depending on my
mood. But I LOVE these movies!
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FrMerrin

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Feb 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/6/99
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In article <79fqrn$4...@netaxs.com>, "Chris J. P." <weav...@iconn.net> writes:

>_____________
>The Changeling
>The Uninvited w/Ray Miland
>and The Haunting.
>
>These are my three all time favorites. Interchangeable depending on my
>mood. But I LOVE these movies!

Great list.

Just add "The Innocents" and you've got a perfect selection of ghost stories.

synthuser

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Feb 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/6/99
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Laura wrote:

> I've done that with endings where I changed my mind about liking or not
> liking it later down the line.

It makes for a nice surprise now and then. :)

synthuser

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Feb 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/6/99
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FrMerrin wrote:

> Just add "The Innocents" and you've got a perfect selection of ghost stories.

Haven't seen this film.
I'll look for it on the next 5 for 5 video run. :)

Chris J. P.

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Just add "The Innocents" and you've got a perfect selection of ghost
stories.

Mike
__________________________________________________________________________

I forgot ALL about The Innocents. That was a another VERY good movie.

Dr Walpurgis

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FrMerrin wrote:

> I can relate to this. For years I thought the ending to Carpenter's "The Thing"
> was very bad, but I saw it on TV one Saturday night and it suddenly clicked
> into place for me. Very bleak indeed.

It was THE ITALIAN JOB for me. Used to »hate« that ending. Now I think
it's brilliant.

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Eric Smith

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Feb 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/7/99
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In article <36BC6A93...@geocities.com>, dr_wal...@geocities.com
says...

>
>
> FrMerrin wrote:
>
> > I can relate to this. For years I thought the ending to Carpenter's "The Thing"
> > was very bad, but I saw it on TV one Saturday night and it suddenly clicked
> > into place for me. Very bleak indeed.

Let me ask you: did the TV play the theatrical version, or the TV cut
with the more depressing alternate ending?

Craig Hamann

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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:07:46 -0500, esm...@twcny.rr.com (Eric Smith)
wrote:

What TV cut with a more depressing ending? I've only seen the
theatrical version, and I've never heard of an alternate ending.

Craig


Eric Smith

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In article <36bde8d0....@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
ham...@worldnet.att.net says...

The alternate TV version includes some narration, some additional scenes
(which are included on the DVD) and an alternate ending -- a daytime shot
of a dog-thing running from the ruins of the American camp.

Gareth Young

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FrMerrin wrote in message <19990206064617...@ngol02.aol.com>...

>
>In article <79fqrn$4...@netaxs.com>, "Chris J. P." <weav...@iconn.net>
writes:
>
>>_____________
>>The Changeling
>>The Uninvited w/Ray Miland
>>and The Haunting.
>>
>>These are my three all time favorites. Interchangeable depending on my
>>mood. But I LOVE these movies!
>
>Great list.
>
>Just add "The Innocents" and you've got a perfect selection of ghost
stories.
>
>
>Mike


i have seen 3 versions of this one and nothing compares to the original.
it scared my younger brother witless.


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Feb 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/8/99
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In article <36bde8d0....@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,

ham...@worldnet.att.net (Craig Hamann) wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:07:46 -0500, esm...@twcny.rr.com (Eric Smith)
> wrote:
>
> >In article <36BC6A93...@geocities.com>, dr_wal...@geocities.com
> >says...
> >>
> >>
> >> FrMerrin wrote:
> >>
> >> > I can relate to this. For years I thought the ending to Carpenter's "The
Thing"
> >> > was very bad, but I saw it on TV one Saturday night and it suddenly
clicked
> >> > into place for me. Very bleak indeed.
> >
> >Let me ask you: did the TV play the theatrical version, or the TV cut
> >with the more depressing alternate ending?
>
> What TV cut with a more depressing ending? I've only seen the
> theatrical version, and I've never heard of an alternate ending.
>
> Craig
>

Believe me, you're lucky. I had the misfortune to run across the network TV
version. It had narration that 'helped make the story more clear' and instead
of the original ending, it tacked on footage of one of the dogs running into
the snow, with more narration, to suggest that the alien had gotten away. (an
article at the time had the CBS people saying it gave the film 'more
closure') Absolutely shameless. Speaking of which, I watched Fallen last
night, and was shocked to see that the film not only ripped off the ending of
The Thing, it even ripped off the stupid TV VERSION of the ending! What a
piece of shit. Glad the roommate rented it, and not me. I can deny any
responsibility for the viewing decision. Homer aka tim...@tiptontel.com

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Eric Smith

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In article <79lsdj$7rl$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, tim...@tiptontel.com
says...


> Believe me, you're lucky. I had the misfortune to run across the network TV
> version. It had narration that 'helped make the story more clear' and instead
> of the original ending, it tacked on footage of one of the dogs running into
> the snow, with more narration, to suggest that the alien had gotten away. (an
> article at the time had the CBS people saying it gave the film 'more
> closure') Absolutely shameless.

Actually, it was the ending Carpenter was originally planning to go with,
if memory serves me. IMO, the dog ending isn't bad at all -- I don't see
how it provides real closure -- for one, it is more faithful to the
ending of Campbell's novella, and for another, it pounds home the idea
that Russell and David lost the battle, and so will the rest of humanity.


> Speaking of which, I watched Fallen last
> night, and was shocked to see that the film not only ripped off the ending of
> The Thing, it even ripped off the stupid TV VERSION of the ending! What a
> piece of shit. Glad the roommate rented it, and not me. I can deny any
> responsibility for the viewing decision. Homer aka tim...@tiptontel.com

Different strokes, I guess! I loved FALLEN.

Tommy Doyle

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Feb 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/8/99
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Eric Smith wrote in message ...

>The alternate TV version includes some narration, some additional scenes
>(which are included on the DVD) and an alternate ending -- a daytime shot
>of a dog-thing running from the ruins of the American camp.

Is there really a DVD for THE CHANGELING, or is this a typo?

Tommy


Eric Smith

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In article <79mqjg$a6a$1...@news.inc.net>, tyr...@itol.com says...

The quote above mine, which you snipped, explained that I was referring
to THE THING. No typo involved.

Craig Hamann

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On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 05:24:11 GMT, tim...@tiptontel.com wrote:

>In article <36bde8d0....@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
> ham...@worldnet.att.net (Craig Hamann) wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:07:46 -0500, esm...@twcny.rr.com (Eric Smith)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <36BC6A93...@geocities.com>, dr_wal...@geocities.com
>> >says...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> FrMerrin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I can relate to this. For years I thought the ending to Carpenter's "The
>Thing"
>> >> > was very bad, but I saw it on TV one Saturday night and it suddenly
>clicked
>> >> > into place for me. Very bleak indeed.
>> >
>> >Let me ask you: did the TV play the theatrical version, or the TV cut
>> >with the more depressing alternate ending?
>>
>> What TV cut with a more depressing ending? I've only seen the
>> theatrical version, and I've never heard of an alternate ending.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>

>Believe me, you're lucky. I had the misfortune to run across the network TV
>version. It had narration that 'helped make the story more clear' and instead
>of the original ending, it tacked on footage of one of the dogs running into
>the snow, with more narration, to suggest that the alien had gotten away. (an
>article at the time had the CBS people saying it gave the film 'more

>closure') Absolutely shameless. Speaking of which, I watched Fallen last


>night, and was shocked to see that the film not only ripped off the ending of
>The Thing, it even ripped off the stupid TV VERSION of the ending! What a
>piece of shit. Glad the roommate rented it, and not me. I can deny any
>responsibility for the viewing decision. Homer aka tim...@tiptontel.com

It sounds as if once again a network executive believed the viewing
public's intelligence is as limited as his. There is no reason
whatsoever to alter the ending of a straight ahead film like
Carpenter's THE THING (or any other film, for that matter). Thanks
for the info, Homer. I will go out of my way to avoid seeing the TV
version of the movie.

Craig

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