10 things Hollywood needs to do to make HORROR MOVIES SCARY again.
Robert Aveberry
1. Stop using new film. Use 16mm or grainy color film. It has to
have that grain - that dry, cold look. Look at Texas Chain Saw - if
that were shot on 32mm or if it were a Hollywood production - it would
not look as frightening.
2. Take all the god dam celebrities out of the horror flicks. It is
not scary to see Ice-Tea in a god dam horror movie - or any celebrity
for that matter.
3. Stop making wise-cracks during horror movies. The reason Night
Mare on Elm Street sequels are not scary. They are fucking funny! Or
child's play, or other films like Scream 2, etc... They have to make
references to funny things (which I don't even find funny - just
annoying).
4. Don't put rock songs or techno in horror movies. In fact, you
don't need music at all. The Exorcist and Blair Witch have no music.
The Exorcist has music for only two scenes - and it is by far - the
best horror movie of all time. And drove so many people out of the
movies. people are still terrified to see it. (If you don't think
the Exorcist is scary - you have major problems).
5. Stop overdoing it!! There is no need to have so much going on or
massive killings (like all the Friday the 13th sequels). No need for
all the talking and all the stunts!!!
6. No need for all the Special effects!!! There are no special
effects in Blair Witch. Minimal in Rosemary's Baby. Halloween has
very little effects.
7. Cut down on all the blood and guts. That is not scary! That is
gory. There is a huge difference. You can disturb people with out
much blood. You don't have to throw people's heads through a wall for
it to be scary. But having someone alone in a room waiting for
something terrifying to happen is scary. So you don't have to over do
the gore.
8. Don't hype up the movie so much. Don't get everyone's expectations
so high. That is a huge problem for Hollywood.
9. Don't overdo the masks. Plain masks like Mike Myers (Halloween)
can be quite scary.
10. Get rid of "Monsters." I know some will say Mike Myers is a
monster or that Jason is a monster - but I'm talking about the typical
Monster-monsters. Jeepers Creepers came close to being scary -but
still didn't really do a great job. It is way more scary to have
villains that people can relate to or that at least are not so
supernatural. Make it so people think this could possibly happen.
Even the Exorcist seems like it could happen because of all the talk
and press about people who were possessed. There is little press in
newspapers about monsters. Big-foot just isn't scary.
Bombsquad
>
> What needs to happen for Hollywood to make good horror movies again:
>
> 1. Stop using new film. Use 16mm or grainy color film. It has to
> have that grain - that dry, cold look. Look at Texas Chain Saw - if
> that were shot on 32mm or if it were a Hollywood production - it would
> not look as frightening.
Sure, if we want bush leauge "Nightmare on Rosario Street with Michael
Vorhees" tripe. It's all in the color timing.
> 2. Take all the god dam celebrities out of the horror flicks. It is
> not scary to see Ice-Tea in a god dam horror movie - or any celebrity
> for that matter.
He's pretty goddamn scary when he's capping your fatass and having
monkey sex with your wife. Besides 2001: A Leprechaun Odessy, what
horror movie has he been in?
> 3. Stop making wise-cracks during horror movies. The reason Night
> Mare on Elm Street sequels are not scary. They are fucking funny! Or
> child's play, or other films like Scream 2, etc... They have to make
> references to funny things (which I don't even find funny - just
> annoying).
Neither Scream, nor Child's play, nor Nightmare on Elm Street do a
classic film make. How about I continue busting the wise ass on you?
> 4. Don't put rock songs or techno in horror movies. In fact, you
> don't need music at all. The Exorcist and Blair Witch have no music.
> The Exorcist has music for only two scenes - and it is by far - the
> best horror movie of all time. And drove so many people out of the
> movies. people are still terrified to see it. (If you don't think
> the Exorcist is scary - you have major problems).
Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells is one of the early forerunners of Modern
Techno. Blair witch sucked my dick, slow and lovingly like a famine
victim eating a cherry popsicle.
> 5. Stop overdoing it!! There is no need to have so much going on or
> massive killings (like all the Friday the 13th sequels). No need for
> all the talking and all the stunts!!!
I don't think Olivia Hussey has the 4 hours it would take for Sergeant
Nash to sign out "The calls are coming from the house, bitch!"
> 6. No need for all the Special effects!!! There are no special
> effects in Blair Witch. Minimal in Rosemary's Baby. Halloween has
> very little effects.
Again, Blair Witch slung cock like the "Blow Job balloon" in the Macy's
Sodomy Day parade. John Cassavetes is a personal God for whom I
sacrifice virgins for, but Rosemary's Baby is the fucking bastard step
child that we lock in the basement, when compared to the Haunting of
Julia. Tom Conti schools your ass, biatch.
> 7. Cut down on all the blood and guts. That is not scary! That is
> gory. There is a huge difference. You can disturb people with out
> much blood. You don't have to throw people's heads through a wall for
> it to be scary. But having someone alone in a room waiting for
> something terrifying to happen is scary. So you don't have to over do
> the gore.
Redundant
> 8. Don't hype up the movie so much. Don't get everyone's expectations
> so high. That is a huge problem for Hollywood.
Yeah, I hear lots of people were WAY let down by the Ghost in the
Machine. My Puerto Rican housekeeper says, "Kareeen Allens isa a preetty
gurl, too nice a face like the virgin mother. That bad, bad El Diablo
lives in my Television! He tries to maka sweet love to me during Dharma
and Greg, but I say no. No, you is a bad devil"
> 9. Don't overdo the masks. Plain masks like Mike Myers (Halloween)
> can be quite scary.
I'm gettin bored here.
> 10. Get rid of "Monsters." I know some will say Mike Myers is a
> monster or that Jason is a monster - but I'm talking about the typical
> Monster-monsters. Jeepers Creepers came close to being scary -but
> still didn't really do a great job. It is way more scary to have
> villains that people can relate to or that at least are not so
> supernatural. Make it so people think this could possibly happen.
> Even the Exorcist seems like it could happen because of all the talk
> and press about people who were possessed. There is little press in
> newspapers about monsters. Big-foot just isn't scary.
You don't think Bigfoot is scary now, but just wait until that hairy
bastard makes a road trip and finds you, in your house and violates you,
Yeti style, all woodsey and shit. Fucker's got big fists, chief. You
don't know fear, until rimmed jobbed by a steroid Wookie.
I guess the only monster I can think of is the guy who molested you as a
kid, because you obviously got something up your ass.
Bombsquad
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Your response was far superiror to mine Bomb...
Ulrich Schreitmueller
> What needs to happen for Hollywood to make good horror movies again:
>
> 1. Stop using new film. Use 16mm or grainy color film. It has to
> have that grain - that dry, cold look. Look at Texas Chain Saw - if
> that were shot on 32mm or if it were a Hollywood production - it would
> not look as frightening.
Why not shoot them all in black and white again?
Seriously though, I think you're overdoing it a little here... if film
material looks like it's from the seventies, it looks dated, but not
necessarily scary.
> 3. Stop making wise-cracks during horror movies. The reason Night
> Mare on Elm Street sequels are not scary. They are fucking funny! Or
> child's play, or other films like Scream 2, etc... They have to make
> references to funny things (which I don't even find funny - just
> annoying).
Amen, man.
> 4. Don't put rock songs or techno in horror movies. In fact, you
> don't need music at all. The Exorcist and Blair Witch have no music.
> The Exorcist has music for only two scenes - and it is by far - the
> best horror movie of all time. And drove so many people out of the
> movies. people are still terrified to see it. (If you don't think
> the Exorcist is scary - you have major problems).
I hope Mr. John Carpenter is listening to this...
Incidentally, "The Birds" did without music as well (except for some
source music when someone played the piano in one scene), but that's not a
reason to leave music out altogether. If "Suspiria" had nothing else to
make it watchable for me, at least it had creepy music.
> 5. Stop overdoing it!! There is no need to have so much going on or
> massive killings (like all the Friday the 13th sequels). No need for
> all the talking and all the stunts!!!
See Hellraiser 3.
> 6. No need for all the Special effects!!! There are no special
> effects in Blair Witch. Minimal in Rosemary's Baby. Halloween has
> very little effects.
Nah. I'd rephrase this as, "If you can't spend the money to make your
effects look convincing, try and find a way to do without them." Still,
Blair and Rosemary (and The Omen, and... etc.) worked well without them
because the style of the movie didn't demand them.
> 7. Cut down on all the blood and guts. That is not scary! That is
> gory. There is a huge difference. You can disturb people with out
> much blood. You don't have to throw people's heads through a wall for
> it to be scary. But having someone alone in a room waiting for
> something terrifying to happen is scary. So you don't have to over do
> the gore.
Yes, yes, yes!
Give me chilling psychological horror over gory splatter any day of the
week. That said, I quite like the occasional blood red nasty gut-churning
brains across the wall bones breaking close-up in slow motion gross out
effect, but if they're not used sparingly, they lose their power.
> 8. Don't hype up the movie so much. Don't get everyone's expectations
> so high. That is a huge problem for Hollywood.
It's called capitalism, baby.
> 9. Don't overdo the masks. Plain masks like Mike Myers (Halloween)
> can be quite scary.
Depends. Pinhead (and the rest of the cenobites) and Freddy worked quite
well when they first appeared, despite elaborate masks. Again, do them
properly or don't do them at all. Unless you're Peter Jackson and you're
doing Bad Taste.
> 10. Get rid of "Monsters." I know some will say Mike Myers is a
> monster or that Jason is a monster - but I'm talking about the typical
> Monster-monsters. Jeepers Creepers came close to being scary -but
> still didn't really do a great job. It is way more scary to have
> villains that people can relate to or that at least are not so
> supernatural. Make it so people think this could possibly happen.
> Even the Exorcist seems like it could happen because of all the talk
> and press about people who were possessed. There is little press in
> newspapers about monsters. Big-foot just isn't scary.
I only partially agree here. A monster can be effective if the story
behind it makes more or less sense. Personally, I'm tired of radioactive
mutants and genetic manipulation plotlines...
And the alien from, well, "Alien" worked well, you have to admit.
Again though, if it looks like a muppet, leave it out of the movie, or at
least have the decency to keep it lurking hidden in the shadows.
Uli
^TooL^
> 1. Stop using new film. Use 16mm or grainy color film. It has to
> have that grain - that dry, cold look. Look at Texas Chain Saw - if
> that were shot on 32mm or if it were a Hollywood production - it would
> not look as frightening.
Uhh No... I disagree here. What is scary is the substance, not the media.
> 2. Take all the god dam celebrities out of the horror flicks. It is
> not scary to see Ice-Tea in a god dam horror movie - or any celebrity
> for that matter.
I think you mean Ice-Cube, but yes, you are right. Perhaps rephrase that
from 'Take all the celebrities out' to 'Take all the trendy pop
teen-magazine dickheads out'.
> 3. Stop making wise-cracks during horror movies. The reason Night
> Mare on Elm Street sequels are not scary. They are fucking funny! Or
> child's play, or other films like Scream 2, etc... They have to make
> references to funny things (which I don't even find funny - just
> annoying).
Agreed... It's very rare that the comedic relief in horror films makes me
laugh.
> 4. Don't put rock songs or techno in horror movies. In fact, you
> don't need music at all. The Exorcist and Blair Witch have no music.
> The Exorcist has music for only two scenes - and it is by far - the
> best horror movie of all time. And drove so many people out of the
> movies. people are still terrified to see it. (If you don't think
> the Exorcist is scary - you have major problems).
I agree, put less pop songs, rock, techno, etc in films, but don't take out
music completely.
You only have to watch any of Argento's films (esp. those with Goblin
soundtracks) or David Lynch's films (god bless Angelo Badalamenti) to
realise that music can be extremely important in films.
> 5. Stop overdoing it!! There is no need to have so much going on or
> massive killings (like all the Friday the 13th sequels). No need for
> all the talking and all the stunts!!!
Hey hey, nothing wrong with having a big bodycount...
> 6. No need for all the Special effects!!! There are no special
> effects in Blair Witch. Minimal in Rosemary's Baby. Halloween has
> very little effects.
No need for CGI... Animatronics and gore are still very welcome.
> 7. Cut down on all the blood and guts. That is not scary! That is
> gory. There is a huge difference. You can disturb people with out
> much blood. You don't have to throw people's heads through a wall for
> it to be scary. But having someone alone in a room waiting for
> something terrifying to happen is scary. So you don't have to over do
> the gore.
Gore is good. (no, not you andy)
> 8. Don't hype up the movie so much. Don't get everyone's expectations
> so high. That is a huge problem for Hollywood.
It worked for Blair Witch... the doco and all the ads and the hype and
everything... made me want to see the film more...
> 9. Don't overdo the masks. Plain masks like Mike Myers (Halloween)
> can be quite scary.
Masks have been way over-done now, anyway... Find some other way to hide the
identity of a killer.
> 10. Get rid of "Monsters." I know some will say Mike Myers is a
> monster or that Jason is a monster - but I'm talking about the typical
> Monster-monsters. Jeepers Creepers came close to being scary -but
> still didn't really do a great job. It is way more scary to have
> villains that people can relate to or that at least are not so
> supernatural. Make it so people think this could possibly happen.
> Even the Exorcist seems like it could happen because of all the talk
> and press about people who were possessed. There is little press in
> newspapers about monsters. Big-foot just isn't scary.
Define 'monsters'. are you saying that you don't like Zombie films? anything
supernatural?
The constant mentioning of Jason and Freddy and Michael leads me to believe
that _YOU_ are what's wrong with Horror today...
^TooL^
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Robert Aveberry wrote:
>
> What needs to happen for Hollywood to make good horror movies again:
>
> 1. Stop using new film. Use 16mm or grainy color film. It has to
> have that grain - that dry, cold look. Look at Texas Chain Saw - if
> that were shot on 32mm or if it were a Hollywood production - it would
> not look as frightening.
I am sure this sort of film would look cool, but it wont bring in the
money!
> 2. Take all the god dam celebrities out of the horror flicks. It is
> not scary to see Ice-Tea in a god dam horror movie - or any celebrity
> for that matter.
You watch early horror films, there are huge stars in them before they
have been famous, lets find more up and coming stars of tomorrow
> 3. Stop making wise-cracks during horror movies. The reason Night
> Mare on Elm Street sequels are not scary. They are fucking funny! Or
> child's play, or other films like Scream 2, etc... They have to make
> references to funny things (which I don't even find funny - just
> annoying).
what is wrong with a bit of humour, it breaks up all the carnage and
killing,
> 4. Don't put rock songs or techno in horror movies. In fact, you
> don't need music at all. The Exorcist and Blair Witch have no music.
> The Exorcist has music for only two scenes - and it is by far - the
> best horror movie of all time. And drove so many people out of the
> movies. people are still terrified to see it. (If you don't think
> the Exorcist is scary - you have major problems).
the exorcist aint scary, its just a good story, cmon who would be scared
of a head spinning around on a little girl, its funny, oh, The Exorcist
only had music in 2 scenes, i dont think so, a score is more or less all
the way in it, and it has tubular bells as its soundtrack, how cool is
that?
> 5. Stop overdoing it!! There is no need to have so much going on or
> massive killings (like all the Friday the 13th sequels). No need for
> all the talking and all the stunts!!!
so you wont wanna watch freddy vs jason then, shame, its a sequal but
its a good one, your loss!
> 6. No need for all the Special effects!!! There are no special
> effects in Blair Witch. Minimal in Rosemary's Baby. Halloween has
> very little effects.
hence why blair witch is the most over hyped horror film of all time, it
sucks ass, halloween has a lot, ie, the killings, unless u belive they
happened in real life!
> 7. Cut down on all the blood and guts. That is not scary! That is
> gory. There is a huge difference. You can disturb people with out
> much blood. You don't have to throw people's heads through a wall for
> it to be scary. But having someone alone in a room waiting for
> something terrifying to happen is scary. So you don't have to over do
> the gore.
people who watch horror want gore, Dog soldiers is an ace film and the
gore helps it sell, Evil Dead is the same,
Day of the Dead is one as well, what the fuck do u know,shit sorry, i
was sounding like Bod then, sorry man!!!
> 8. Don't hype up the movie so much. Don't get everyone's expectations
> so high. That is a huge problem for Hollywood.
And the Blair Witch
> 9. Don't overdo the masks. Plain masks like Mike Myers (Halloween)
> can be quite scary.
fucking hell, go pick the wardrobes then,
> 10. Get rid of "Monsters." I know some will say Mike Myers is a
> monster or that Jason is a monster - but I'm talking about the typical
> Monster-monsters. Jeepers Creepers came close to being scary -but
> still didn't really do a great job. It is way more scary to have
> villains that people can relate to or that at least are not so
> supernatural. Make it so people think this could possibly happen.
> Even the Exorcist seems like it could happen because of all the talk
> and press about people who were possessed. There is little press in
> newspapers about monsters. Big-foot just isn't scary.
Big foot is scary, go watch the werewolf and the yeti
monsters are all good,
WHAT THE FUCK DO U KNOW??????
Mark Towns
"Robert Aveberry" wrote in message
> Look at Texas Chain Saw - if that were shot on 32mm
Excellent! - stereo 16mm!
Wish I knew where I could get this.
Mark
blowup
> don't need music at all. The Exorcist and Blair Witch have no music.
> The Exorcist has music for only two scenes - and it is by far - the
> best horror movie of all time. And drove so many people out of the
> movies. people are still terrified to see it. (If you don't think
> the Exorcist is scary - you have major problems).
>the exorcist aint scary, its just a good story, cmon who would be scared
>of a head spinning around on a little girl, its funny, oh, The Exorcist
>only had music in 2 scenes, i dont think so, a score is more or less all
>the way in it, and it has tubular bells as its soundtrack, how cool is
>that?
Sure, it's not scary now - it's so ingrained as a part of pop culture that
it's about as scary
as the Hamburgler in a home invasion. But look at the film in a '70s
context, and that scabby, puke launching, head spinning little girl was
fuckin over the top. I don't agree that "it is by far - the
best horror movie of all time," but they did that shit up right.
dave
WideScreenPig
<djangoth...@new.rr.com> writ thusly:
>You
>don't know fear, until rimmed jobbed by a steroid Wookie.
ROFL!!
Sara Merry
horror movies again:
1. Stop using new film. Use 16mm or grainy color film. It has to have
that grain - that dry, cold look. Look at Texas Chain Saw - if that were
shot on 32mm or if it were a Hollywood production - it would not look as
frightening. >>
So many of the truly classic horror movies came out of the 70's because
of the way a lot of directors were approaching movies then. The 70's
had its fair share of shit, but it stands far above the following two
decades.
It wasn't the type of film used that killed "serious" horror in the 80's
and 90's but the attitude toward movies in general. The 80's were awash
in spectacle and mind-numbing smaltz, while the 90's saw the perfection
of the formula movie.
(Robert Aveberry) : << 2. Take all the god dam celebrities out of the
horror flicks. It is not scary to see Ice-Tea in a god dam horror movie
- or any celebrity for that matter. >>
Studios don't care if its scary, as long as their star can lure the
unwitting teenyboppers in.
(Robert Aveberry) : << 3. Stop making wise-cracks during horror
movies. The reason Night Mare on Elm Street sequels are not scary. They
are fucking funny! Or child's play, or other films like Scream 2, etc...
They have to make references to funny things (which I don't even find
funny - just annoying). >>
Those aren't horror movies...
(Robert Aveberry) : << 4. Don't put rock songs or techno in horror
movies. In fact, you don't need music at all. The Exorcist and Blair
Witch have no music. The Exorcist has music for only two scenes - and it
is by far - the best horror movie of all time. And drove so many people
out of the movies. people are still terrified to see it. (If you don't
think the Exorcist is scary - you have major problems). >>
That's more of a situational consideration, but yes I could do without
the latest pop sensations and has-beens churning out soulless singles on
a soundtrack for every useless movie that hits theaters.
(Robert Aveberry) : << 5. Stop overdoing it!! There is no need to have
so much going on or massive killings (like all the Friday the 13th
sequels). No need for all the talking and all the stunts!!! >>
Studios don't argue with a formula that works.
(Robert Aveberry) : << 6. No need for all the Special effects!!! There
are no special effects in Blair Witch. Minimal in Rosemary's Baby.
Halloween has very little effects. >>
CGI has done more harm than good, but it sure packs in the parishioners!
(Robert Aveberry) : << 7. Cut down on all the blood and guts. That is
not scary! That is gory. There is a huge difference. You can disturb
people with out much blood. You don't have to throw people's heads
through a wall for it to be scary. But having someone alone in a room
waiting for something terrifying to happen is scary. So you don't have
to over do the gore. >>
If the situation calls for blood so be it. Dawn of the Dead would not
work as well with out the abundance of blood. Texas Chainsaw otoh works
beautifully with hardly any blood.
The problem isn't blood and guts, but incompetent directors.
(Robert Aveberry) : << 8. Don't hype up the movie so much. Don't get
everyone's expectations so high. That is a huge problem for Hollywood.
>>
All part of the "big opening weekend" madness. Don't look for that to
go away any time soon.
(Robert Aveberry) : << 9. Don't overdo the masks. Plain masks like
Mike Myers (Halloween) can be quite scary. >>
Come on, you're not even TRYING now. :)
(Robert Aveberry) : << 10. Get rid of "Monsters." I know some will say
Mike Myers is a monster or that Jason is a monster - but I'm talking
about the typical Monster-monsters. Jeepers Creepers came close to being
scary -but still didn't really do a great job. It is way more scary to
have villains that people can relate to or that at least are not so
supernatural. Make it so people think this could possibly happen. Even
the Exorcist seems like it could happen because of all the talk and
press about people who were possessed. There is little press in
newspapers about monsters. Big-foot just isn't scary. >>
Big Rubber Monster movies are more for the fx junkies. Very few even
try to really horrify.
Sara Merry
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"Robert Aveberry" <fiveal...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> What needs to happen for Hollywood to make good horror movies again:
>
> 1. Stop using new film. Use 16mm or grainy color film. It has to
> have that grain - that dry, cold look. Look at Texas Chain Saw - if
> that were shot on 32mm or if it were a Hollywood production - it would
> not look as frightening.
This is kind of iffy. It's the director's job to bring a believable
flick, but I just don't see them changing film just to make it "scary".
>
> 2. Take all the god dam celebrities out of the horror flicks. It is
> not scary to see Ice-Tea in a god dam horror movie - or any celebrity
> for that matter.
Another iffy. If a person doesn't fit the part, you'll see them as Ice
T, Jennifer Aniston, or Corey Haim (I know, he's lost his status as a
"top-notch" star, but I'm referring to movies from the 80's) instead of the
character they're playing.
>
> 3. Stop making wise-cracks during horror movies. The reason Night
> Mare on Elm Street sequels are not scary. They are fucking funny! Or
> child's play, or other films like Scream 2, etc... They have to make
> references to funny things (which I don't even find funny - just
> annoying).
Okay, Screen-writer Kevin Williamson has stated he wrote Scream as a
horror movie to make FUN of horror movies. Should it NOT include comedic
bits here and there if it is to be successful?
>
> 4. Don't put rock songs or techno in horror movies. In fact, you
> don't need music at all. The Exorcist and Blair Witch have no music.
> The Exorcist has music for only two scenes - and it is by far - the
> best horror movie of all time. And drove so many people out of the
> movies. people are still terrified to see it. (If you don't think
> the Exorcist is scary - you have major problems).
Personally, the only music I think should be in a horror movie is a nice
instrumental piece--and no, I DON'T find the Exorcist scary. I have seen
only one movie that I found scary--and that wasn't while watching it, it was
after the tape was turned off, and the lights were off that it really got to
me.
>
> 5. Stop overdoing it!! There is no need to have so much going on or
> massive killings (like all the Friday the 13th sequels). No need for
> all the talking and all the stunts!!!
This I can agree with. Very few sequels live up to the original--or if
there is a franchise, why do they decide to screw it up by putting
non-franchise material in it (Halloween III)?
>
> 6. No need for all the Special effects!!! There are no special
> effects in Blair Witch. Minimal in Rosemary's Baby. Halloween has
> very little effects.
Psycho, Friday the 13th, Last House on the Left, etc. all have minimal
effects, and they are regarded as some of the best, so I'm in agreement with
you to a point.
>
> 7. Cut down on all the blood and guts. That is not scary! That is
> gory. There is a huge difference. You can disturb people with out
> much blood. You don't have to throw people's heads through a wall for
> it to be scary. But having someone alone in a room waiting for
> something terrifying to happen is scary. So you don't have to over do
> the gore.
To paraphrase Stephen King: in horror, the idea is to scare people, and
if you can't scare them: terrify them. And if you can't terrify them, then
go for the gross-out.
>
> 8. Don't hype up the movie so much. Don't get everyone's expectations
> so high. That is a huge problem for Hollywood.
Not just Hollywood's fault, but the fans. Episode II, for instance, I
have seen very few commercials or advertisments, but as a fan of Star Wars,
I was psyched to see it, but this film let me down. Pearl Harbor, however,
had a MAJOR AD campaign, and because the production company felt the need to
hype only the battle portion, many people went in expection 3 hrs of just
the battle, not an hour of romance, an hour of battle, and an hour of
preparing, and exacting, revenge. I went to see the movie, and was actually
happy with the final outcome (I am one of ten people in the US, maybe, who
feels this way).
It's a two-way street, really, but for new horror films, it's a rarity that
they overkill on Ads (Blair Witch is an exception).
>
> 9. Don't overdo the masks. Plain masks like Mike Myers (Halloween)
> can be quite scary.
Or no mask at all.
>
> 10. Get rid of "Monsters." I know some will say Mike Myers is a
> monster or that Jason is a monster - but I'm talking about the typical
> Monster-monsters. Jeepers Creepers came close to being scary -but
> still didn't really do a great job. It is way more scary to have
> villains that people can relate to or that at least are not so
> supernatural. Make it so people think this could possibly happen.
> Even the Exorcist seems like it could happen because of all the talk
> and press about people who were possessed. There is little press in
> newspapers about monsters. Big-foot just isn't scary.
Jeepers Creepers did what it set out to do: suspend people for an hour
and a half, and let them go home. Sometimes people CAN relate to a monster,
especially the classics (Vampires, werewolves, and the ever-classic
Boogeyman) because these are the ones that haunted out nightmares as
children.
All in all, I think the reason most horror movies aren't scary is that we
have seen the same thing time and again. I've been watching horror all my
life, and I read Stephen King's IT way back when I was in 1st grade (no, I'm
not lying), so it's not really a surprise that I have become accustomed to
what is seen on screen.
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"blowup" <kidcth...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I saw the movie about ten years ago for the first time, but since I had
grown up on Horror movies, I didn't think it was scary at all. It all
depends on how desensitized you are....
Finn Clark
> LOADS OF RAPE....
> GUTTINGS.....ARSERAPE....
> BLOOD SPURTING ALL OVER THE PLACE....
> MORE RAPE....
> FEMALE NUDITY....MUFF SHOTS...
> RAPE MUFF SHOTS....
> MURDERING FURRY ANIMALS AND AQUATIC CREATURES....
> TORTURE (PYSICAL AND PSYCOLOGICAL)
> SHITTING ON FURRY ANIMALS....AND MAKING THEM EAT SHIT...
> RAPING WOMEN WITH MUREDERD ANIMALS THAT HAVE BEEN EATING SHIT...
> THATS A FUCKING HELLOVA PLOT!!!
Yes, but that's enough about your day. What do you think Hollywood needs to
do to make horror movies scary again?
Finn Clark.
Gene Gregorits
> LOADS OF RAPE....
> GUTTINGS.....ARSERAPE....
> BLOOD SPURTING ALL OVER THE PLACE....
> MORE RAPE....
> FEMALE NUDITY....MUFF SHOTS...
> RAPE MUFF SHOTS....
> MURDERING FURRY ANIMALS AND AQUATIC CREATURES....
> TORTURE (PYSICAL AND PSYCOLOGICAL)
> SHITTING ON FURRY ANIMALS....AND MAKING THEM EAT SHIT...
> RAPING WOMEN WITH MUREDERD ANIMALS THAT HAVE BEEN EATING SHIT...
> THATS A FUCKING HELLOVA PLOT!!!
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA! And people think I'M nuts...
Bod, you are CLASSIC.
Gene
www.sexandgutsmagazine.com
Lesmond
>
> Personally, the only music I think should be in a horror movie is a nice
>instrumental piece--and no, I DON'T find the Exorcist scary. I have seen
>only one movie that I found scary--and that wasn't while watching it, it was
>after the tape was turned off, and the lights were off that it really got to
>me.
What was the movie?
__
Nudge. Wall. Mayhem.
gareth young
"Gene Gregorits" <killc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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reminds me of what i saw on tv last night.
uk home video show 'kirstys home videos' had a clip of a cute little calf
feeding from it's mother.
and what did it's mother do?
shit on little baby cows head that's what.
twice!
and the stupid calf carried on standing there drinking away obliviously.
--
gareth-quote of the day
'bring me my dinner wife'
Nihil Neil
gareth young wrote:
>reminds me of what i saw on tv last night.
>uk home video show 'kirstys home videos' had a clip of a cute little calf
>feeding from it's mother.
>and what did it's mother do?
>shit on little baby cows head that's what.
>twice!
>and the stupid calf carried on standing there drinking away obliviously.
It must've been REALLY thirsty.
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Raymond Red Rooster Rodriguez
"You betcher ass!"
Dr. Nick Riviera
> Personally, the only music I think should be in a horror movie is a nice
>instrumental piece--and no, I DON'T find the Exorcist scary.
Stike one...
> Very few sequels live up to the original--or if
>there is a franchise, why do they decide to screw it up by putting
>non-franchise material in it (Halloween III)?
Stike two...
> Psycho, Friday the 13th, Last House on the Left, etc. all have minimal
>effects, and they are regarded as some of the best, so I'm in agreement with
>you to a point.
Friday the 13th, Last House, some of the best?
You're out.
Dr. Nick
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<the_unf0...@yahoo.comnospam> wrote:
> I saw the movie about ten years ago for the first time, but since I had
>grown up on Horror movies, I didn't think it was scary at all. It all
>depends on how desensitized you are....
Maturity level can also a major factor in the enjoyment of a
smart/effective horror movie like the EXORCIST. At 15, when I first
read the book and saw the movie, I had no understanding of more adult
themes in the story like loss of faith and watching the suffering of
your children while being powerless to help them, etc. At 15 I thought
the book and the movie were sub-par; At 30, I think they are both
masterful works of art (and scary too).
I'm NOT saying that YOU are immature, mind you, but I don't buy into
the desensitization BS. Good horror is good horror no matter what.
Your milage may vary,
Kennedy
"Dr. Nick Riviera" <rka...@telerama.nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 03:49:12 GMT, "Kennedy"
> <the_unf0...@yahoo.comnospam> wrote:
>
> > I saw the movie about ten years ago for the first time, but since I
had
> >grown up on Horror movies, I didn't think it was scary at all. It all
> >depends on how desensitized you are....
>
> Maturity level can also a major factor in the enjoyment of a
> smart/effective horror movie like the EXORCIST. At 15, when I first
> read the book and saw the movie, I had no understanding of more adult
> themes in the story like loss of faith and watching the suffering of
> your children while being powerless to help them, etc. At 15 I thought
> the book and the movie were sub-par; At 30, I think they are both
> masterful works of art (and scary too).
>
> I'm NOT saying that YOU are immature, mind you, but I don't buy into
> the desensitization BS. Good horror is good horror no matter what.
I'm 20, so I think the movie and book are excellent--I just have never
found them scary.
Varizo
> If "Suspiria" had nothing else to
>make it watchable for me, at least it had creepy music.
>
After thje first 15 minites or so, it wass *only* the music that made the
boring shite watchable!
V.
Varizo
> Jeepers Creepers came close to being scary
it was fantasstic! Compared to miost boring rubbish thatt gets releses d now,
its the *best* new horrorr film theres been for years!!
V.