I love the way Home Depot sucks!
Steve B
finding all sorts of things from $160 to $600 per, I was overwhelmed.
One day I'm in Home Depot. I had gotten the price of $160 each there, and
wifey says, "Put the damn things up."
So...............
We get ahold of the door guy. Takes him about 15 minutes to appear. We ask
about wood screen doors, and HOLY SMOKE, BATMAN! here's a guy that knows
something about doors. Takes us straight to them.
He takes us to two 1 1/8" ash frame doors with extruded aluminum inserts
with screen. He says they are $89 each, but one is damaged, and not for
sale. I said to check with the manager and I'd take it if he made me a
deal. The screen had pulled out on one corner. A two minute no cost repair
He disappears and comes back. He says we can have it for $50, a $39
discount. Hey, we're still under the price we got before for ONE, so we say
okay. He puts them on a cart for us and scribbles something on a paper and
says to give it to the cashier.
We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye
contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like hell.
$320 worth of doors for $78 plus tax.
Home Depot does suck, but sometimes their stupidity and ineptness works
towards my side of the fence.
Man, those doors look good on my cabin. And the price was right, too.
Steve
lee houston
"Steve B" <boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote in message
news:siiSg.431$BC6.78@fed1read01...
>
> We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye
> contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like hell.
>
> $320 worth of doors for $78 plus tax.
Your honesty was tested. And you flunked.
lee
Steve B
"lee houston" <bogus...@notreal.org> wrote in message
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Yeah. I remember all those times when, if I hadn't pointed it out to the
cashier that they would have OVER charged me on many items. Funny why that
isn't a two way street.
As to your sermon on honesty:
paraphrasing ...........
watch out for a man who says he's honest. he'll probably lie about other
things as well.
mark twain or will rogers or someone. not me. HONEST!
Steve
Sacramento Dave
> got $85 in change I flunked the Honesty thing to. Oh well make up for a
> small amount of frustration dealing with them, they still owe me. By the
> way when I ordered widows for my house the Guy new what he was talking but
> it all went to shit from him to the front desk to the manufacturer
Oren
We don't know what the "door guy" wrote on the ticket. Perhaps he saw
damage to the second door and amended the ticket price without the
OP's knowledge.
--
Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."
Rick Brandt
> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:21:44 GMT, "lee houston"
> <bogus...@notreal.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Steve B" <boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote in message
> > news:siiSg.431$BC6.78@fed1read01...
> > >
> > > We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I
> > > make eye contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and
> > > then run like hell.
> > >
> > > $320 worth of doors for $78 plus tax.
> >
> > Your honesty was tested. And you flunked.
> >
> > lee
>
> We don't know what the "door guy" wrote on the ticket. Perhaps he saw
> damage to the second door and amended the ticket price without the
> OP's knowledge.
Doesn't matter. The "test" was flunked when he thought he was undercharged and
didn't say anything. The fact that he might have been incorrect doesn't enter
into it.
dpb
Oren wrote:
...
> We don't know what the "door guy" wrote on the ticket. ...
...
We do, otoh, know what OP _thought_ was on the ticket. :(
Oren
<rickb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> We don't know what the "door guy" wrote on the ticket. Perhaps he saw
>> damage to the second door and amended the ticket price without the
>> OP's knowledge.
>
>Doesn't matter. The "test" was flunked when he thought he was undercharged and
>didn't say anything. The fact that he might have been incorrect doesn't enter
>into it.
When they ran like hell is enough indicator the OP "felt" like he got
away. Had he questioned the ticket and the cashier he may have seen a
reduced price or paid the correct price.
jeffc
>>
>> Your honesty was tested. And you flunked.
>>
>
> cashier that they would have OVER charged me on many items. Funny why
> that isn't a two way street.
Look dude if you wanna take advantage of a store's stupidity, go ahead. But
don't pretend it's a 2 way street. You DID point it out and you DIDN'T get
overcharged.
Oren
Just tell me how we know. Add a comment on his thought other than
getting away with something.
John H.
if HD cannot hire someone that (see previous post also"Home Depot Sucks")
can't understand a purchase slip(or has not been trained properly)
or can take the time to call for a clarification if its not clear, I say way
to go Steve-o
HeyBub
>
>
> if HD cannot hire someone that (see previous post also"Home Depot
> Sucks") can't understand a purchase slip(or has not been trained
> properly) or can take the time to call for a clarification if its not
> clear, I
> say way to go Steve-o
The way HD works on discounts is that department leaders (and maybe
individual clerks) have an allowance they can use for customer goodwill.
Here we have an employee who the OP praised as knowledgeable and helpful.
Because of a mistake by the check-out clerk, not corrected by the OP, this
helpful employee may have exceeded his quota and have some sort of black
mark on his record.
Over and above out-and-out theft, it's a shameful abuse of honor. Pitiful,
really.
Johnny V.
"Steve B" wrote
> We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye
> contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like hell.
Gosh Steve, I'll bet you and your wife are real proud.
Running out of a box store after knowingly cheating them. Can you trust
each other, or are you constantly on your toes wondering if the other one
is cheating?
You two deserve each other.
Edwin Pawlowski
"John H." <jo...@wontwork.com> wrote in message
>
> if HD cannot hire someone that (see previous post also"Home Depot
> Sucks") can't understand a purchase slip(or has not been trained properly)
> or can take the time to call for a clarification if its not clear, I say
> way to go Steve-o
And the rest of us pay in the long run. "Getting away with it" does not
make it right.
mm
<boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote:
>
>"lee houston" <bogus...@notreal.org> wrote in message
>news:cCiSg.8969$6S3....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>> "Steve B" <boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote in message
>> news:siiSg.431$BC6.78@fed1read01...
>>>
>>> We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye
>>> contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like hell.
>>>
>>> $320 worth of doors for $78 plus tax.
>>
>> Your honesty was tested. And you flunked.
Absolutely.
>> lee
>>
>Yeah. I remember all those times when, if I hadn't pointed it out to the
>cashier that they would have OVER charged me on many items. Funny why that
>isn't a two way street.
Dishonest and stupid too if you can't see the difference.
>As to your sermon on honesty:
>
>paraphrasing ...........
>
>watch out for a man who says he's honest. he'll probably lie about other
>things as well.
And someone who says he's dishonest, like you diD, I'm certain lies
and cheats other times too. The reason you're telling the truth is
you know that no one from here is going to go after you here.
>mark twain or will rogers or someone. not me. HONEST!
If you were honest you would have told the cashier what you and the
clerk had agreed upon for the price.
You already said you told them when they were going to overcharge you.
They didn't owe you any money.
BTW, neither Lee nor I said we were honest. We said you were
dishonest. Your attempt to attack those who point out the truth
failed because you don't read carefully or you're stupid.
>Steve
>
Steve B
"Johnny V." <Inv...@netcom.net> wrote in message
news:4519dc1d$0$6934$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
Fuck you asshole.
I didn't go in there to steal anything.
We didn't cheat anyone.
We did what the people said to do.
We let them do their own math.
We paid what they asked.
And the rest of you sanctimonious pious assholes that act like you're honest
and haven't done anything shady in your lives and still pontificate on the
actions of others can kiss my sorry dishonest ass, too. Too bad you don't
have the honesty to share your stories. Like you wouldn't or haven't done
the same thing. Yeah, right.
Steve
dpb
Oren wrote:
> On 26 Sep 2006 17:26:07 -0700, "dpb" <dpbo...@swko.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Oren wrote:
> >...
> >
> >> We don't know what the "door guy" wrote on the ticket. ...
> >...
> >
> >We do, otoh, know what OP _thought_ was on the ticket. :(
>
> Just tell me how we know. Add a comment on his thought other than
> getting away with something.
Don't have to add a comment, can use his own words...
''... they are $89 each, but ... I'd take it if he made me a deal.
...He says we can have it for $50, a $39 discount. ... She rings up
two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye contact, but don't say a
word. "
Very clearly he (and the wife, too, for that matter) thought they were
buying one door at $89 and another at $50. Whether the slip was
miswritten rather than misinterpreted isn't the point I was making, it
was clear to him that what was rung up wasn't what was intended and
he/they chose to take advantage of the mistake, whoever actually made
it.
mm
wrote:
>John H. wrote:
>>
>>
>> if HD cannot hire someone that (see previous post also"Home Depot
>> Sucks") can't understand a purchase slip(or has not been trained
>> properly) or can take the time to call for a clarification if its not
>> clear, I
>> say way to go Steve-o
What I think you're saying is that if someone makes a mistake, it's ok
to steal from him.
>The way HD works on discounts is that department leaders (and maybe
>individual clerks) have an allowance they can use for customer goodwill.
>
>Here we have an employee who the OP praised as knowledgeable and helpful.
>Because of a mistake by the check-out clerk, not corrected by the OP, this
>helpful employee may have exceeded his quota and have some sort of black
>mark on his record.
>
>Over and above out-and-out theft, it's a shameful abuse of honor. Pitiful,
>really.
Absolutely.
>
Cheri
Steve B wrote in message ...
>And the rest of you sanctimonious pious assholes that act like you're
honest
>and haven't done anything shady in your lives and still pontificate on
the
>actions of others can kiss my sorry dishonest ass, too. Too bad you
don't
>have the honesty to share your stories. Like you wouldn't or haven't
done
>the same thing. Yeah, right.
>
>Steve
You're sounding a lot like a politician. If you didn't expect comment,
and you had to know it was coming, you shouldn't have posted it. :-)
Cheri
zxcvbob
Nicely done.
Bob
Ashton Crusher
>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:49:58 -0700, "Steve B" <boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"lee houston" <bogus...@notreal.org> wrote in message
>>news:cCiSg.8969$6S3....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>>>
>>> "Steve B" <boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote in message
>>> news:siiSg.431$BC6.78@fed1read01...
>>>>
>>>> We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye
>>>> contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like hell.
>>>>
>>>> $320 worth of doors for $78 plus tax.
>>>
>>> Your honesty was tested. And you flunked.
>>>
>>> lee
>>>
>>
>>Yeah. I remember all those times when, if I hadn't pointed it out to the
>>cashier that they would have OVER charged me on many items. Funny why that
>>isn't a two way street.
>>
>
>You are either honest or you aren't. It doesn't matter what anybody else does.
>
>CWM
>
And he's already told us which he is.
mm
<boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote:
>
>"Johnny V." <Inv...@netcom.net> wrote in message
>news:4519dc1d$0$6934$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> "Steve B" wrote
>>
>>> We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye
>>> contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like hell.
>>
>> Gosh Steve, I'll bet you and your wife are real proud.
>>
>> Running out of a box store after knowingly cheating them. Can you trust
>> each other, or are you constantly on your toes wondering if the other one
>> is cheating?
>>
>> You two deserve each other.
>
>Fuck you asshole.
>
>I didn't go in there to steal anything.
That's why no one said you committed "premeditated stealing".
>
>We didn't cheat anyone.
>
>We did what the people said to do.
But you knew that most likely the cashier had made a mistake. If
someone misspoke and told you burn down his house, or to push him into
traffic, or in front of a train, would you do it?
>We let them do their own math.
But you knew that most likely the cashier had made a mistake.
>We paid what they asked.
But you knew that most likely the cashier had made a mistake.
>And the rest of you sanctimonious pious assholes that act like you're honest
>and haven't done anything shady in your lives
No one said anything about his own level of honesty**. You're
offering a red herring to change the topic.
**(except one person who said he did something similar and agreed that
he flunked the test)
>and still pontificate on the
>actions of others can kiss my sorry dishonest ass, too. Too bad you don't
>have the honesty to share your stories. Like you wouldn't or haven't done
>the same thing. Yeah, right.
I suspect that many of those who criticized you let such things happen
when they were much younger, or maybe just younger, but they've
realized it is wrong and they wouldn't do it again. Parents usually
teach their children not to steal, but unless a situation like this
comes up when both the parent and child are present, the child doesn't
have to watch the parent make up his mind what to do, and the parent
can easily forget to talk some other time about every one of the
situations that don't fit the prototypes, like shoplifting, purse
snatching, burglary, etc.
So if the child didn't see a parent deal with this situation, and if
the parents and the religious teachers didn't talk about it, and if no
public school teacher or friend set a good example, or even a stranger
that one might be standing next to while he paid a cashier, it's
possible for someone not to know.
But now you know what everyone here except one person thinks about
this. Maybe if you have time to think about it some more, a few days
or weeks or months, you agree with the rest of us.
>Steve
>
Steve B
"Ashton Crusher" <He...@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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And never made the claim to be anything other than what I am. Unlike people
here who have never cheated or taken a discount for a mistake.
There was one man like that, but he died a very long time ago.
Steve
Richard J Kinch
> My wife and I make eye
> contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like hell.
So for all of $39 you became a thief?
mm
<boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote:
>>>You are either honest or you aren't. It doesn't matter what anybody else
>>>does.
>>>
>>>CWM
>>>
>> And he's already told us which he is.
>
>And never made the claim to be anything other than what I am. Unlike people
>here who have never cheated or taken a discount for a mistake.
You have to get over the idea that it matters how honest the people
criticizing you are. This is about you and how others act doesn't
matter.
Are you claiming that no one who has ever done the same thing can
criticize someone else for doing somethings wrong, whether it is
illegal, immoral, unsafe, unhealthy, or unkind?
Because it's not true. Sometimes they are in the best position to
know what is wrong.
In a few cases, there is no one else present to say what is wrong
except people who have done it. Are you saying they shouldn't say
anything? Someone has to speak up.
It's also nonsense when people say that if the parents when teenagers
or 20's used drugs, committed vandalism, etc. they can't tell their
children not to do those same things. Of course they can, if they now
think that their kids shouldn't do drugs or commit vandalism. Do
people who were vandals have to raise children who think there is
nothing wrong with vandalism? Of course not. If that were the case,
the world would get worse and worse and never and nowhere would it get
better.
Back to the original topic, if people have gotten money the way you
describe or outright stolen, if they've done it and don't tell people,
that probably means they are ashamed, and if they haven't stopped
already, being ashamed is the first step towards stopping.
What makes your case worth criticism is that you are talking about it.
You weren't ashamed at all. And talking about it is worse than the
original act. When you take 61 dollars that wasn't meant for you,
it's a straight 61 dollars. But when you talk about it in public, you
encourage who knows how many people to do the same sort of thing. So
the transgression multiplies by a factor of 4 or 10 or 100. And if
they see you talking, they may talk about it themselves after they do
it, or even if they don't do it and only you announced that you did.
So that spreads the encouragement to everyone those 4 or 10 or 100
talk to.
If one is going to do things like this, he should be ashamed of it and
not tell anyone, because hearing that someone else did some thing like
this makes other people jealous, of the money, and they'll want to do
the same thing. It mitigates the instruction their parents or their
religious teachers may have given them not to do such things.
So get off your high horse, that you imagine you are one, complaining,
and learn to keep your less than right things to yourself.
I'll give you credit for not using the word hypocrite, which most
people use where it doesn't apply. A person would only be a
hypocrite if he, for example, acted like he had never stolen anything
when he had, or acted like he didn't now when he still did.
But no one here said how honest they were, and no one was a hypocrite
even if some are dishonest.
Steve B
"mm" <NOPSAM...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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I hear people piss and moan all day every day here about Home Depot, Lowe's,
and the other borgs. The reaction I got was not what I expected.
I guess people who have gotten things by mistake just haven't weighed in
yet, or cared to take the time to write about their own experience.
All I've heard from are the hypocrites.
I got something at a break from a company that would have and has taken
advantage of me on many previous occasions. I do not feel guilty. They
fucked up big time on two sets of double doors once. As I see it, they
still owe me money.
As for all the bleeding heart liberal hypocrites, preach to someone who
might either buy what they're selling, or at least be interested. I'm not.
I can live with what happened. I'm an adult. I'll cope.
Steve
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lee houston wrote:
> "Steve B" <boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote in message
> news:siiSg.431$BC6.78@fed1read01...
> >
> > We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye
> > contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like hell.
> >
Chuck B.
>>And the rest of you sanctimonious pious assholes that act like you're honest
>>and haven't done anything shady in your lives and still pontificate on the
>>actions of others can kiss my sorry dishonest ass, too. Too bad you don't
>>have the honesty to share your stories. Like you wouldn't or haven't done
>>the same thing. Yeah, right.
>
> here bears little resemblance to what the great majority of these same
> people would do when they actually see the little register lights with
> a price mistake in their favor.
>
> The lesson to be learned is, as much as it's tempting to brag a little
> about your "good fortune," keep these kinds of things quiet between
> you and your wife.
Is your name "Honest" Abe? I think not.
Doug Miller
>
>"Johnny V." <Inv...@netcom.net> wrote in message
>news:4519dc1d$0$6934$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> "Steve B" wrote
>>
>>> We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye
>>> contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like hell.
>>
>> Gosh Steve, I'll bet you and your wife are real proud.
>>
>> Running out of a box store after knowingly cheating them. Can you trust
>> each other, or are you constantly on your toes wondering if the other one
>> is cheating?
>>
>> You two deserve each other.
>
>Fuck you asshole.
>
>I didn't go in there to steal anything.
>
>We didn't cheat anyone.
Yes, you did.
>
>We did what the people said to do.
>
>We let them do their own math.
>
>We paid what they asked.
And you *knew* they made a mistake.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
Caesar Romano
<boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote Re Re: I love the way Home Depot
sucks!:
>And never made the claim to be anything other than what I am. Unlike people
>here who have never cheated or taken a discount for a mistake.
>
>There was one man like that, but he died a very long time ago.
>
>Steve
Steve is just bitter because his neighbor is pumping up his wife and
he can't get any.
DragonKnight
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>pay back isn't such a bad thing.
>
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Steve B wrote:
> She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye
> contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like hell.
>
I remember many times from my childhood when my Dad corrected a
cashier's error or even went back to pay for something that was missed.
He would also say things like "ethics are what you do when nobody's
watching."
Your ethic is pretty clear here. Why not just go through the self-check
or put items in your pockets?
-kiwanda
Robert Allison
> to cash my paycheck on my lunch hour. After about 45 minutes, I made it to the
> window and cashed my check. As I pulled away, I counted the money and realized I
> had been given an extra $10. Well, I only had about 15 minutes before I was due
> back at work, and it didn't look like I was gonna be eating lunch. I circled
> around the building and got back at the end of that line. When I got to the
> window, the clerk tried to refuse the $10. She said she gave me the correct
> amount. I insisted on talking to her supervisor. I told the supervisor that I
> had been given $10 too much and at first she didn't want to take it either. I
> finally said, "Look, take the money, and when you close out the register, if you
> come out $10 ahead, here's my name and address. I ended up not only missing
> lunch, but lost a half hours pay by getting back to work late.
>
> Now... Tell us your story again.
>
> CWM
Here is my story:
I was in Home Depot for some miscellaneous items and noticed a
water dispenser (the kind that heats and chills water from a
water bottle, free standing) with a sign on top of it that
said $89.00. I had been looking at these because my wife
wanted one for the house and I had been researching prices. I
knew that this one was regularly about $200 and saw that the
tabletop models were right next to the ones with the special
sign. I was not looking to buy one of these at that moment,
but I knew that was the wrong price. I grabbed the sales rep
in that area and told him that I think that sign is supposed
to be on the table top models. He argued with me and said
that no, the special was for these standalones. I then asked;
if I carry this down to the register, is it going to ring up
at $89.00? He said absolutely. I told him that I had been
looking at these and that was an exceptional price for that
model, it was even a good price for the table top model and
that he should check to make sure that that was the correct
price. He then became surly and informed me that this was his
dept. and he had installed the sign and knew what he was
talking about.
At that point, I decided if that was the price, I needed to
buy it, since it was such a good deal. I asked him to come
with me to the checkout to make sure there were no problems.
He grabbed a cart, put the dispenser in it and walked up to
the checkout with me. The cashier scanned the bar code and it
rang up at $192.00 and change. I looked at the sales guy and,
without a word, he did an override on the transaction and sold
me the unit for $89.00. The next time I passed by there, the
sign was on the table top model.
--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX
yourname
>>Steve
>>I bought about $15 dollars worth of little stuff. Handed the checker a $20
>>got $85 in change I flunked the Honesty thing to. Oh well make up for a
>>small amount of frustration dealing with them, they still owe me. By the
>>way when I ordered widows for my house the Guy new what he was talking but
>>it all went to shit from him to the front desk to the manufacturer
>
>
>
The world runs because thankfully, most people would have, had they
caught it, returned the money.
Sure, screw the despot.
What do you think the REAL result of your ethical failure was?
That cashier probably lost her job. What do you suppose the effects of
that were? Maybe nothing. Maybe it cost her her apartment, her sobriety
her marriage.
Would that be your fault?
Hell no.
But you didn't help.
80 bucks you didn't need, versus helping.
Nice choice
Am I ehtically perfect?
No
Steve B
"Charlie Morgan" <*@*.com> wrote in message
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I did the same thing one time at a bank, but it was for $100. I knew the
teller would have to pay the shortage, and I didn't take the money. I've
done it many other times when cashiers have given me too much change. It
seems that no one can make or count change today. They just hand it back to
you in a wad.
In this case, the cashier's till was right at the end of the day.
Steve
Steve B
"Kiwanda" <kiw...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1159363611.7...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I don't put things in my pockets. I just go to a cashier and pay what they
tell me.
It's easy.
Steve
Steve B
"yourname" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
news:OJvSg.4088$SD5.3002@trndny01...
Her till balanced at the end of the day if she hadn't made any other
mistakes.
Her sobriety?
What the hell does that mean?
Steve
yourname
> Charlie Morgan wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:21:02 -0700, "Steve B"
>> <boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Johnny V." <Inv...@netcom.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4519dc1d$0$6934$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>>> "Steve B" wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make
>>>>> eye contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run
>>>>> like hell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gosh Steve, I'll bet you and your wife are real proud.
>>>>
>>>> Running out of a box store after knowingly cheating them. Can you
>>>> trust each other, or are you constantly on your toes wondering if
>>>> the other one is cheating?
>>>>
>>>> You two deserve each other.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fuck you asshole.
>>>
>>> I didn't go in there to steal anything.
yet you did.
>>>
>>> We didn't cheat anyone.
>>>
yes you did
>>> We did what the people said to do.
>>>
>>> We let them do their own math.
when you knew the right answer
>>>
>>> We paid what they asked.
>>>
>>> And the rest of you sanctimonious pious assholes that act like you're
>>> honest and haven't done anything shady in your lives and still
>>> pontificate on the actions of others can kiss my sorry dishonest ass,
>>> too. Too bad you don't have the honesty to share your stories. Like
>>> you wouldn't or haven't done the same thing. Yeah, right.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>
We are just not so proud of our dishonesty. I am not perfectly honest,
but I cannot recall purposefully walking away with extra change. I can
recall handing back money. 2 days a go I corrected the drive thru guy,
and he waved me off. It was a buck, he didn't care. I drove.
>>
>>
>> Okay, here's my story... I once waited in a long line at the bank
>> drivethrough
>> to cash my paycheck on my lunch hour. After about 45 minutes, I made
>> it to the
>> window and cashed my check. As I pulled away, I counted the money and
>> realized I
>> had been given an extra $10.
<snip>
My grandfathers story, as told to me:
My grandfather was an immigrant who worked at the Ford assembly plant.
He worked in the toolroom, and guy were responsible for their own
tools., so if they didn't turn them in, they would get docked. Ford paid
well, but htye had a thousand ways to get you back. My grandfather would
sometimes substitute a broken tool for one that was missing, saving
the guys paycheck. 100 percent honest? no. But it did make him
reasonably well liked.
Those days they paid in cash. A brinks style truck backed up to the pay
window and disbursed pay envelopes on payday. Only 2 guys in the whole
plant were allowed in the truck.
One payday, my grandfather picked up his pay, and counted it. There was
an extra brand new 5 dollar bill in the envelope. Stress the brand new
bill. He went back to the guy at the window and said, hey, this isn't
right. Guy says your nuts keep it and go away. He says nope, take back
the five dollars. Guy shrugs. takes the money.
the next week, there were three guys allowed in the pay truck.
the moral is that you do not have to be honest, but it can be to your
advantage.
Andrew
> about your "good fortune," keep these kinds of things quiet between
> you and your wife.
The biggest rule about breaking the rules is:
"When you break the rules, never, ever tell ANYONE about it."
People who brag about their exploits usually get caught.
Caesar Romano
>Her sobriety?
>
>What the hell does that mean?
It means you are a scum bag who is too stupid to see what an ass you
are making of yourself. OTOH, it is entertaining to watch you try to
back-track.
yellow...@hotmail.com
internet is a whole 'nuther level.
I'd like to suggest a book: Back to Virtue by Peter Kreeft
Steve B
<yellow...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I'd like to suggest a location for your book ................
lee houston
>>> $320 worth of doors for $78 plus tax.
>> lee
>
>
> As to your sermon on honesty:
>
> paraphrasing ...........
> watch out for a man who says he's honest. he'll probably lie about other
> things as well.
Steve, two short sentences is hardly a 'sermon'.
What rather surprized me is that you seem to be
downright proud that you ripped off a store for
around $250! Your questioning of other's honesty
is simply a red herring. A distraction, not a
justification.
I do hope that you are young and will develop
a better conscience through the years.
Lee
Steve B
I went through three employees. They stated the price and I paid it. My
conscience is clear.
Steve
Johnny V.
"Steve B" wrote
> Fuck you asshole.
>
> I didn't go in there to steal anything.
>
>
>
> We let them do their own math.
>
>
> And the rest of you sanctimonious pious assholes that act like you're
> honest and haven't done anything shady in your lives and still
> pontificate on the actions of others can kiss my sorry dishonest ass,
> too. Too bad you don't have the honesty to share your stories. Like you
> wouldn't or haven't done the same thing. Yeah, right.
Great defense Steve, you can try to justify your dishonesty as much as you
care to do.
BTW, I constantly have cashiers trying to give me back more than they
should. If this was going to make me or break me, it may cross my mind to
be dishonest like you. Then again, better judgement would tell me, not in
this life-time.
LOL, I'll bet your "friends" hide all their valuables when you and your
wife drop by.
Thanks for sharing your true colors, I have to admit, you were honest about
being a thief.
grappletech
relativist? A moral absolutist would be against not pointing out to the
clerk that she was undercharging for the doors. A moral relativist might
say: well, HD has made lots of profit off of me over the years (before
Lowe's started springing up), and they provide crappy customer service, so
it is not immoral for me to get these doors for this price.
I am in the moral relativism camp, myself -- seems more fair. I hate
absolutes.
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Caesar Romano
wrote Re Re: I love the way Home Depot sucks!:
>LOL, I'll bet your "friends" hide all their valuables when you and your
>wife drop by.
They would have to be even dumber than him to even let them into their
house.
Doug Miller
>I went through three employees. They stated the price and I paid it.
That's not the same story you told the first time.
> My conscience is clear.
That's the *really* sad part of the whole episode.
grappletech
>> of that were? Maybe nothing. Maybe it cost her her apartment, her
>> sobriety her marriage.
Chances are, her mistake wouldn't even be caught by the bumbling HD
management. The paperwork would simply appear to them that 2 damaged doors
were sold to one person, unless they have some basic accounting procedures
in place like keeping track of the tickets (signed by a manager) that
indicate the defective item(s). In which case, they'd show 2 doors sold as
defective but only ONE ticket indicating a defect. Chances are, it'll fall
through the cracks.
yellow...@hotmail.com
Moral relativism, and relativism in general is easy to refute. You
cannot assert it as true without setting up an absolute and thereby
defeating your postion.
grappletech
> Okay, here's my story... I once waited in a long line at the bank
> drivethrough to cash my paycheck on my lunch hour. After about 45
> minutes, I made it to the window and cashed my check.
You'd actually wait 45 minutes in the bank drive through? You're patient.
My blood pressure would be through the roof. Sitting there for almost an
hour, idling the car (which is hard on an engine). A lot of options exist,
besides spending 45 minutes in a line -- dropping it in the secure deposit
vault out front (tellers will post it later that day or the next), signing
up for Direct Deposit of your co. offers it, going to the bank Saturday
morning on your day off, depositing it in the ATM machine and taking out
cash if you need it, or walking into the bank.
Only reason why a person would need to wait in line for 45 minutes to cash
a paycheck is if they need money right away, and their bank won't allow a
simultaneous paycheck ATM deposit and ATM cash withdrawal due to not having
any existing funds in the account.
mm
>as often as people get screwwed over by companies like this, a little
>pay back isn't such a bad thing.
I wonder how often that is that people get screwed over.
For me, it's not really possible. I see what they have and how much
they want for it and if it's worth it, I buy it. If it doesn't work,
I"m sure they would take it back, but that's never happened. I return
lots of things because I decide I don't want them, and they've always
given me my money or a credit, which at hardware stores I have no
trouble using.
I suppose on special orders, if you say correctly what you want and
they mess it up, and won't believe you said something different, they
could take your money in advance for something you don't want. But
how often does that happen? Most of the time they get the order
right, and most of the time they don't, they'll redo it.
The only place that owes me payback is the furnace repair company that
replaced my fan motor and left it making the same noise, while saying
it was quieter. I didn't pay them and I expected to win when they
sued me (actually I was supposed to complain long before that and get
it resolved without court, but being depressed made that not happen
too), but I was busy or depressed and didn't show up, and they won.
And I paid. The collection department never even knew of the reason I
didn't pay. Years later the president said I should have complained
to him. Maybe that would have worked.
But taking advantage of a company is not justified because an
incompetent repairman at another company cost me money. To think
otherwise would be like saying if a mugger stole from me or beat me
up, I could pick someone else and steal from him or beat him up.
>Empressess #124457
>
Oren
--
Oren
"Well, it doesn't happen all the time, but when it happens, it happens constantly."
YouDontN...@somewhere.edu
>
>"mm" <NOPSAM...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>news:n29kh21cul9jfjtrn...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:58:26 -0700, "Steve B"
>> <boozoo...@zydeco.net> wrote:
>As for all the bleeding heart liberal hypocrites, preach to someone who
>might either buy what they're selling, or at least be interested. I'm not.
Yo, let's leave the liberals out of this. Most hypocrites are
right-wing conservatives.
Steve B
to the manager and see what he says happened and offer to make it right.
I will advise in about two weeks when I return.
In my absence, try to get along without me and don't fight.
Steve ;-)
Doug Miller
>Well, we leave in the morning for Utah. I'm going to take my receipt back
>to the manager and see what he says happened and offer to make it right.
I wish I could believe that.
Craven Morehead
to accept virtually anything without question. Now, the "...reserve the
right to deny returned items".
Also, for what it's worth, me and all my friends stick it to the "Holy H"
every chance we get since Bob Nardelli took over.
"Caesar Romano" <Sp...@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Keith Williams
YouDontN...@Somewhere.edu says...
Perhaps. You have to believe in something to be a hypocrite.
--
Keith
z
Steve B wrote:
> "Charlie Morgan" <*@*.com> wrote in message
> news:nekkh21svlfa9jeo2...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:21:02 -0700, "Steve B" <boozoo...@zydeco.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"Johnny V." <Inv...@netcom.net> wrote in message
> >>news:4519dc1d$0$6934$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
> >>>
> >>> "Steve B" wrote
> >>>
> >>>> We do so. She rings up two doors at $39 each. My wife and I make eye
> >>>> contact, but don't say a word. We pay the girl, and then run like
> >>>> hell.
> >>>
> >>> Gosh Steve, I'll bet you and your wife are real proud.
> >>>
> >>> Running out of a box store after knowingly cheating them. Can you trust
> >>> each other, or are you constantly on your toes wondering if the other
> >>> one
> >>> is cheating?
> >>>
> >>> You two deserve each other.
> >>
> >>
> >>I didn't go in there to steal anything.
> >>
> >>We didn't cheat anyone.
> >>
> >>We did what the people said to do.
> >>
> >>We let them do their own math.
> >>
> >>We paid what they asked.
> >>
> >>And the rest of you sanctimonious pious assholes that act like you're
> >>honest
> >>and haven't done anything shady in your lives and still pontificate on the
> >>actions of others can kiss my sorry dishonest ass, too. Too bad you don't
> >>have the honesty to share your stories. Like you wouldn't or haven't done
> >>the same thing. Yeah, right.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Okay, here's my story... I once waited in a long line at the bank
> > drivethrough
> > to cash my paycheck on my lunch hour. After about 45 minutes, I made it to
> > the
> > realized I
> > was due
> > back at work, and it didn't look like I was gonna be eating lunch. I
> > circled
> > around the building and got back at the end of that line. When I got to
> > the
> > window, the clerk tried to refuse the $10. She said she gave me the
> > correct
> > amount. I insisted on talking to her supervisor. I told the supervisor
> > that I
> > had been given $10 too much and at first she didn't want to take it
> > either. I
> > finally said, "Look, take the money, and when you close out the register,
> > if you
> > come out $10 ahead, here's my name and address. I ended up not only
> > missing
> > lunch, but lost a half hours pay by getting back to work late.
> >
> > Now... Tell us your story again.
> >
> > CWM
>
> I did the same thing one time at a bank, but it was for $100. I knew the
> teller would have to pay the shortage, and I didn't take the money. I've
> done it many other times when cashiers have given me too much change. It
> seems that no one can make or count change today. They just hand it back to
> you in a wad.
>
> In this case, the cashier's till was right at the end of the day.
>
> Steve
I had a medium length discussion with a "service associate" at dunkin
donuts the other day because she undercharged me, but I couldn't
convince her so I gave up. My guilt was ameliorated by the fact that
the same kid has overcharged me a couple of times, which I did not
discover until later when dumping my change out, which is why I was
doing the math in my head to check her cash register skill in the first
place.
HeyBub
>
> Yo, let's leave the liberals out of this. Most hypocrites are
> right-wing conservatives.
What's wrong with hypocrisy? The sign that says: "This way to Chicago"
doesn't actually GO to Chicago itself.
No, those who accuse others of hypocrisy are simply trying to change the
subject.
Jeff Wisnia
>
> I hear people piss and moan all day every day here about Home Depot, Lowe's,
> and the other borgs. The reaction I got was not what I expected.
>
> I guess people who have gotten things by mistake just haven't weighed in
> yet, or cared to take the time to write about their own experience.
>
> All I've heard from are the hypocrites.
>
> I got something at a break from a company that would have and has taken
> advantage of me on many previous occasions. I do not feel guilty. They
> fucked up big time on two sets of double doors once. As I see it, they
> still owe me money.
Ah yes, I see that Steve believes that two wrongs CAN make a right.
>
> As for all the bleeding heart liberal hypocrites, preach to someone who
> might either buy what they're selling, or at least be interested. I'm not.
Then I wonder why he's continuing to reply to posts on this thread?
>
> I can live with what happened. I'm an adult. I'll cope.
>
> Steve
>
>
What amazes me about Steve, is that he's got no shame about admitting
that both he AND his wife conspired to pay less than they'd already
mentally commited to paying. Those two must truly be made for each other.
I suppose in a weird way that makes Steve honest, at least about
confessing how they both took advantage of a Home Depot employee's
mistake. And, bragged about it right here on usenet where G-d knows who
will be able to read about their "good fortune" for a loooooong time.
I express the same amazement over people who brag to me about how
they're scamming the tax man whenever they can, and go into great detail
to prove to me just how "clever" they are. I sure wish they'd keep it to
themselves, and if they start barfing off about it, even if it's in
front of a bunch of other people, I point out that a portion of what
they gain by cheating on their taxes is coming out my pocket, and the
pockets of everyone else who pays taxes.
I have a framed sign on my office wall reading:
There is no right way to do the wrong thing.
(Thomas Huxley 1825-1895)
It states exactly how we strive to treat our clients, and woe be it to
any employee of mine who doesn't adhere to that principle.
Lecture over,
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."
Jeff Wisnia
>>
>
>
> Okay, here's my story... I once waited in a long line at the bank drivethrough
> to cash my paycheck on my lunch hour. After about 45 minutes, I made it to the
> window and cashed my check. As I pulled away, I counted the money and realized I
> had been given an extra $10. Well, I only had about 15 minutes before I was due
> back at work, and it didn't look like I was gonna be eating lunch. I circled
> around the building and got back at the end of that line. When I got to the
> window, the clerk tried to refuse the $10. She said she gave me the correct
> amount. I insisted on talking to her supervisor. I told the supervisor that I
> had been given $10 too much and at first she didn't want to take it either. I
> finally said, "Look, take the money, and when you close out the register, if you
> come out $10 ahead, here's my name and address. I ended up not only missing
> lunch, but lost a half hours pay by getting back to work late.
>
> Now... Tell us your story again.
>
> CWM
That reminds me of an episode of the TV series "Frasier" when Frasier's
dad, Martin Crane, gets $40 too much squirted out to him from a bank's
ATM and has one hell of a time trying to give it back to the bank. He
gets so frustrated at "the strong smell of stupid" surrounding the bank
personel that he loses his cool and ends up with a guard pointing a
pistol at him. The happy ending was the bank President voluntarily
handing him a check for $10,000 in return for his agreeing not to sue
them over what happened.
Jeff (Who for the first time, DIDN'T say "ATM machine".)
Mark Lloyd
I just saw an episode of "Gomer Pyle" where he tries to return a baby
carriage, leading to the same sort of trouble.
--
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Mark Lloyd
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"The government of the United States is not, in
any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
-- George Washington