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cindy sue

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Nov 9, 2009, 4:33:51 AM11/9/09
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Our home is currently electric and we would like to convert to gas.
thank you
cindy

Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 9, 2009, 5:49:42 AM11/9/09
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"cindy sue" <cindypowell51_a...@foo.com> wrote in message

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> Our home is currently electric and we would like to convert to gas.
> thank you
> cindy

You're welcome. Sometimes I come home from work and bring gas. Depends on
what I had for lunch. The gas lights will look nice too.


Jim Elbrecht

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:54:29 AM11/9/09
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 05:49:42 -0500, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net>
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Yeah, the lights are nice, but have you seen the price of those gas
TVs?

Jim

Stormin Mormon

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:07:16 AM11/9/09
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The Stucco site is not a help forum, it's an
*advertising* forum that invades real forums
(like "alt.home.repair", part of "usenet")
parasitically in order to generate free
advertising for itself, which continually
advances its search engine placement, thereby
increasing its own revenue through its click-
through advertising commissions.

So the first thing you should do is write them
an email and tell them to quit spamming.

Then try to find your way here through proper
channels. Please do a google search on "Usenet"
and post the regular way.

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Harry L

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Nov 9, 2009, 11:18:06 AM11/9/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:54:29 -0500, Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com>
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If you want one (and can afford it) it's best to buy the TV first and
then build a house around it.

>Jim

SteveB

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:04:21 PM11/9/09
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"cindy sue" <cindypowell51_a...@foo.com> wrote in message
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There's a new thing about keeping cows in the basement, and then they
produce methane, and it's all very green friendly. You'd probably even get
a little snippet on TV with AlGore.

Steve


Tony

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:32:49 PM11/9/09
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Lets see now... electric to gas... OK! Just use electrolysis! Be
careful, the gases the electrolysis will produce are hydrogen and oxygen
and are quite explosive.

DerbyDad03

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:51:30 PM11/9/09
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On Nov 9, 4:33 am, cindypowell51_at_yahoo_dot_...@foo.com (cindy sue)
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If you have cloth covered wiring, you can't convert since the cloth
can't contain the gas.

Rubber coated Romex or BX cable, with the right connectors, should be
OK.

terry

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:43:30 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 9, 6:33 am, cindypowell51_at_yahoo_dot_...@foo.com (cindy sue)
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Gas heating.
Gas lighting.
Gas hot water heater.
Washing machine.
Gas operated refrigerator.
Gas dryer.
Gas cooking stove.
Gas water pump if on a well-water supply.
Gasoline sump pump in case of flooding.
Not sure if you can get gas operated air conditioning, if needed?
A conversion cost of say $15,000 to $25,000 should cover it?
But do careful comparison of the cost of fuel (gas) to ensure that
such a conversion is worth the initial outlay.
If the gas to be used is propane fuel cost most likely to be far too
expensive, and unlike piped in gas or wired in electrcity propane gas
fuel delivery can be a problem.
Here, where all-electric homes are the norm, and most electrcity is
generated by hydro (water) power, it would not be economic or
practical at all.
In the late 1940s just after end of WWII we lived in an all-gas
Victorian row house house in a northern UK city.
The daily lighting and maintenance of appliances was quite a chore.
The gas lights used those 'mantles' which were quite fragile and had
to be treated with care.
PS. Maybe a gas generator to power TV and radio etc.

Stormin Mormon

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:13:14 AM11/10/09
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Of course, you need a vacuum cleaner to suck the copper
centers out of the romex tubes. But, that's easy enough to
do. Just post on the Sucko forum, and ask how.

--
Christopher A. Young
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Tony

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Nov 11, 2009, 12:02:44 AM11/11/09
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terry wrote:
> On Nov 9, 6:33 am, cindypowell51_at_yahoo_dot_...@foo.com (cindy sue)
> wrote:
>> -------------------------------------
>>
>> Our home is currently electric and we would like to convert to gas.
>> thank you
>> cindy
>
> Gas heating.
> Gas lighting.
> Gas hot water heater.

> Washing machine.

Early washing machines came electric powered or with natural gas or
gasoline engines for those without electric yet!

Lp1331 1p1331

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:04:02 AM11/11/09
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I think they showed a gasoline washing machine in the movie "Coal
Miner's Daughter"-- Loretta Lynn's biography.
I remember my Mother telling me about them-- one brand was "Thor", and
how my grandmother wanted one.(she never got it) They finally got
electricity on the farm in W. Tx just before WW11, when my Mother was
about 10. She said she and some of her brothers were in a field some
distance away from the house, and it was dark by the time the power got
switched on. They came running home-- they thought the house was on
fire, it was so bright, compared to the kerosene lamps. Larry

Bob Villa

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:58:18 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 12:04 am, lp1...@webtv.net (Lp1331 1p1331) wrote:
They finally got
electricity on the farm in W. Tx just before WW11, when my Mother was
about 10. She said she and some of her brothers were in a field some
distance away from the house, and it was dark by the time the power
got
switched on. They came running home-- they thought the house was on
fire, it was so bright, compared to the kerosene lamps. Larry

I must have missed WW3 thru 10! Holy Crap!

bob_v

Bob Villa

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:01:45 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 10, 12:43 am, terry <tsanf...@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Gas hot water heater.

Terry, you did the unforgivable here...you don't need to heat "hot
water"!

bob_v

DerbyDad03

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Nov 11, 2009, 9:16:43 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 10, 8:13 am, "Stormin Mormon"

<cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Of course, you need a vacuum cleaner to suck the copper
> centers out of the romex tubes. But, that's easy enough to
> do. Just post on the Sucko forum, and ask how.
>
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
>  www.lds.org
> .
>
> "DerbyDad03" <teamarr...@eznet.net> wrote in message

>
> news:5257dc42-769d-41c2...@l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> If you have cloth covered wiring, you can't convert since
> the cloth
> can't contain the gas.
>
> Rubber coated Romex or BX cable, with the right connectors,
> should be
> OK.

Wait a minute - we have an issue here.

She can't use a vacuum to suck out the copper because the electricity
would have to be turned off before the copper could be sucked out.
Even if she had a gas powered vacuum cleaner, she couldn't use it
until the copper was sucked out of the Romex and the gas turned on.

We have a classic Catch-22 here.

Sam E

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:15:54 PM11/11/09
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:04:02 -0600, lp1...@webtv.net (Lp1331 1p1331)
wrote:

>I think they showed a gasoline washing machine in the movie "Coal
>Miner's Daughter"-- Loretta Lynn's biography.
>I remember my Mother telling me about them-- one brand was "Thor", and
>how my grandmother wanted one.(she never got it) They finally got
>electricity on the farm in W. Tx just before WW11

WW ELEVEN?
How many world wars have we had?

dpb

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:32:46 PM11/11/09
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Folks began collecting organizing members for local REC on VJ-Day; first
hookup was sometime in '47; lines west to us in '48. Dad served on
Board continuously for 50 years.

Prior to full service had Delco 32V DC windcharger system that provided
house lights and minimal applicances (altho did include refrigerator).

We just retired the original 110V Frigidaire last year when the
compressor finally failed after 60 years nonstop other than the
occasional power outage. I'm kicking myself for having let the
appliance outfit have it instead of at least putting it in barn for
dirt-free storage... :(

I'm not sure what had for washing machine on the Delco system--I'll have
to ask my aunt what she recalls...a cousin has the old Delco multi-dial
radio that we played "Buck Rogers" spaceship controls on as kids--it
still works, too.

I know areas of Saskatchewan and I presume others when I was still doing
coal analyzer service work 10 years ago or so still had sizable areas
that had not yet gotten on grid. There was still a showroom in the
co-op store in Weyburn w/ the DC appliances last time I was there.

--

The Daring Dufas

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Nov 11, 2009, 1:37:29 PM11/11/09
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You do if you want steam. A steam powered house with
all appliances run off steam. It could work.

TDD

Stormin Mormon

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:46:41 PM11/11/09
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And, there is the answer. A new company provides portable
powered Romex vacum sucking service.

Finnegan's Ultrapowerful Copper Tubing Usage Provider.
Advanced, Hyper Oscillating Efficiency.

You'lll know when the guy knocks on the door and hollers the
company acronym "F.U.C.T.U.P. A-Hoe!" and stands there with
his hose in his hand.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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Stormin Mormon

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Nov 11, 2009, 5:48:27 PM11/11/09
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Well, lets see. 9 and 10 were againt Communists, and 11 is
against liberals. Not much differnce, if you asked me.

--
Christopher A. Young
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Bob Villa

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:31:37 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 4:48 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

<cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, lets see. 9 and 10 were againt Communists, and 11 is
> against liberals. Not much differnce, if you asked me.
>
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
>  www.lds.org
> .
>
> "Sam E" <no.em...@all.invalid> wrote in message

>
> news:5pvlf5pjtpob2ieci...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:04:02 -0600, lp1...@webtv.net (Lp1331
> 1p1331)
> wrote:
>
> >I think they showed a gasoline washing machine in the movie
> >"Coal
> >Miner's Daughter"-- Loretta Lynn's biography.
> >I remember my Mother telling me about them-- one brand was
> >"Thor", and
> >how my grandmother wanted one.(she never got it)  They
> >finally got
> >electricity on the farm in W. Tx just before WW11
>
> WW ELEVEN?
> How many world wars have we had?

I brought this up 1st...you sir, are rude! (and what about WW3 thru
8?)

bob_v

Lp1331 1p1331

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Nov 11, 2009, 8:25:51 PM11/11/09
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LOL-- I was trying to make Roman numerals for "2". , as it is often
written. I guess I should have looked closer at it before hitting Send.
To be more specific, I'm pretty sure they got electrified (REA) in 1940.
'Their neighbors, whose daughter later became my aunt, had a Delco Wind
Charger. I didn't know it was 32 volt-- always just assumed it was 12,
and they used the same generator as a car, though come to think of it
cars were all 6 volt at that time AFAIK.

Stormin Mormon

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Nov 11, 2009, 9:28:49 PM11/11/09
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I've been called rude, before. And, likely some time again.

WWIII through WWV were nuclear at the conclusion. WWVI
through VIII were fought online, and caused no damage to
physical properties or people. Outside of a few techies who
overcoded, no real people were injured.

--
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Ed Pawlowski

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:00:34 PM11/11/09
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"DerbyDad03" <teama...@eznet.net> wrote in message

Wait a minute - we have an issue here.

She can't use a vacuum to suck out the copper because the electricity
would have to be turned off before the copper could be sucked out.
Even if she had a gas powered vacuum cleaner, she couldn't use it
until the copper was sucked out of the Romex and the gas turned on.

We have a classic Catch-22 here.

*****************************************************************

Not hard at all. Use a long extension cord. Once filled with electric, it
will run the vacuum for a while. You can re-fill at a neighbors house if
more is needed.


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