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James Harvey  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 9:10 pm
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From: James Harvey <nos...@noreply.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:10:16 -0600
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 9:10 pm
Subject: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
Hi All,

The bottom door pivot is angled outwards to get the front of the door close
to the trim at the bottom of the door when it's closed. Otherwise there will
be a large gap between the front of the door and the trim at the bottom.

It works fine as is, but it's quite visible and ugly. I can't straighten it
and move closer to the outside or I'll have to screw into the edge of the
drywall with the outer mounting hole. I can't use the floor mounting hole
because there is porcelain tile beneath it.

What can I do about this? Any help appreciated.

Photo here:

http://s1354.beta.photobucket.com/user/zewkini1/media/Hinge.jpg.html?...
52772506607029410424013622105


 
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Oren  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 9:44 pm
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From: Oren <O...@127.0.0.1>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:44:20 -0800
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:10:16 -0600, James Harvey <nos...@noreply.com>
wrote:

I'm confused why the bracket is diagonal to the wall. Looks like the
bracket was installed incorrectly.

I mounted my bi fold bottom bracket on porcelain. The reveal around
the door is equal on all sides. Drilled into the porcelain for an
anchor screw.

Perhaps re-mount the bracket?


 
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 9:51 pm
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From: gonjah <jthr...@toast.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:51:45 -0600
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 9:51 pm
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
On 11/12/2012 8:10 PM, James Harvey wrote:

You can't drill through the tile?

 
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 10:16 pm
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From: "WW" <c...@nospambresnan.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:16:05 -0700
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue

"James Harvey"  wrote in message

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Hi All,

The bottom door pivot is angled outwards to get the front of the door close
to the trim at the bottom of the door when it's closed. Otherwise there will
be a large gap between the front of the door and the trim at the bottom.

It works fine as is, but it's quite visible and ugly. I can't straighten it
and move closer to the outside or I'll have to screw into the edge of the
drywall with the outer mounting hole. I can't use the floor mounting hole
because there is porcelain tile beneath it.

What can I do about this? Any help appreciated.

Photo here:

http://s1354.beta.photobucket.com/user/zewkini1/media/Hinge.jpg.html?...
52772506607029410424013622105

I would use a nylon screw plug in the drywall and JB Weld epoxy under the
bracket to the tile. Let epoxy set over night before hanging the door. WW


 
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Oren  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 10:45 pm
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From: Oren <O...@127.0.0.1>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:45:23 -0800
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 10:45 pm
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:16:05 -0700, "WW" <c...@nospambresnan.net>
wrote:

>I would use a nylon screw plug in the drywall and JB Weld epoxy under the
>bracket to the tile. Let epoxy set over night before hanging the door. WW

The bracket is not tall enough to require a nylon anchor into the
sheet rock?  Two long screws will get the OP into solid wood at the
base 2X4 plate.

One hole in the porcelain will get him aligned (measure twice) for an
anchor screw. Epoxy would be messy and difficult to align the door for
the correct reveals on each side. Too many chances of movement.

The bracket is perpendicular to the wall, not angled or diagonal.


 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 8:07 am
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From: "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:07:33 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 8:07 am
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue

James Harvey wrote:
> Hi All,

> The bottom door pivot is angled outwards to get the front of the door
> close to the trim at the bottom of the door when it's closed.
> Otherwise there will be a large gap between the front of the door and
> the trim at the bottom.

> It works fine as is, but it's quite visible and ugly. I can't
> straighten it and move closer to the outside or I'll have to screw
> into the edge of the drywall with the outer mounting hole. I can't
> use the floor mounting hole because there is porcelain tile beneath
> it.

> What can I do about this? Any help appreciated.

The top and bottom pivot holes should be the aligned with the center of the
track.  The center of the track should be the same distance from the trim
along its entire length.

Your bracket is angled because it is improperly installed; either the back
screw is loose or there is something under the bracket pushing it out (looks
like there is).  It maybe that it is resting on drywall and part of the
drywall has failed. Remove the bracket and either pack out where it is to go
or remove more...your goal is to have it sit flush and perpendicular to the
wall and to screw firmly to it.  Use longer screws if needed to get into
solid wood.

It isn't hard to drill a hole in tile for the end screw but if the bracket
is tightly screwed to the wall you probaly won't need the end screw.  Better
with, can work without.

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 More options Nov 13 2012, 11:52 am
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From: Harry K <turn...@q.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:52:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 11:52 am
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
On Nov 12, 6:10 pm, James Harvey <nos...@noreply.com> wrote:

???  That looks like a very cobbled up installation.  Here is how one
should look.  I insstalled this back in mid 80s on a closet door, the
wall framing is on studs installed flet so thickness of wall is only
about 2 1/2.  Makdes a neat finish.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a292/turnkey4099/bifold-1.jpg

The door should be set back far enough to apply trim work that covers
all the gaps (except at the bottom).

Harry K


 
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 6:48 pm
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From: James Harvey <nos...@noreply.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:48:28 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:44:20 -0600, Oren wrote
(in article <pgc3a89gh6rln1dtms88583lqju8t30...@4ax.com>):

The bracket was bent on purpose by remodelers (house flip) to get the door
close to the outer trim. I could put in a straight bracket  nut the outer
hole would have to be so close to the casing I would screw into the edge of
the drywall the trim is mounted to. Don't really want to drill into the tile
unless I have to.

Maybe some trim inside the casing so I have to set the doors further back
might work.


 
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 6:49 pm
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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:49:29 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:51:45 -0600, gonjah wrote
(in article <k7sck3$ki...@dont-email.me>):

I could I suppose but trying to avoid it.

 
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 6:50 pm
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From: James Harvey <nos...@noreply.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:50:32 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 6:50 pm
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:16:05 -0600, WW wrote
(in article <neudncwP9avhJjzNnZ2dnUVZ_tedn...@bresnan.com>):

http://s1354.beta.photobucket.com/user/zewkini1/media/Hinge.jpg.html?...

> 52772506607029410424013622105

> I would use a nylon screw plug in the drywall and JB Weld epoxy under the
> bracket to the tile. Let epoxy set over night before hanging the door. WW

That's a good idea. Thanks!

 
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 6:53 pm
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From: James Harvey <nos...@noreply.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:53:30 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:45:23 -0600, Oren wrote
(in article <b0g3a8d64vb6rrp868dmq3i2n17884s...@4ax.com>):

> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:16:05 -0700, "WW" <c...@nospambresnan.net>
> wrote:

>> I would use a nylon screw plug in the drywall and JB Weld epoxy under the
>> bracket to the tile. Let epoxy set over night before hanging the door. WW

> The bracket is not tall enough to require a nylon anchor into the
> sheet rock?  Two long screws will get the OP into solid wood at the
> base 2X4 plate.

> One hole in the porcelain will get him aligned (measure twice) for an
> anchor screw. Epoxy would be messy and difficult to align the door for
> the correct reveals on each side. Too many chances of movement.

> The bracket is perpendicular to the wall, not angled or diagonal.

Well I won't epoxy it then as suggested.. The outer screw mounting hole is
too close to the casing to get into the plate - will only get into the edge
of the drywall.

 
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 6:59 pm
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From: James Harvey <nos...@noreply.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:59:54 -0600
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 6:59 pm
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:52:25 -0600, Harry K wrote
(in article
<8ce10207-6e38-4550-a56e-30fc545d5...@me7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>):

Looks like I need some kind of trim behind the casing to set the doors
further back and thus the bracket/channel. I now suspect the remodelers
(house flippers) removed the inside trimwork on all the bifold doors and just
did what they thought was good enough to sell the house.

I guess I will go install some trim to correct this issue.

Your doors look really nice!


 
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 8:53 pm
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From: Oren <O...@127.0.0.1>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:53:04 -0800
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 8:53 pm
Subject: Re: Bifold Door Pivot Issue
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:48:28 -0600, James Harvey <nos...@noreply.com>
wrote:

You may get by without drilling the tile for a short while.  I'm
thinking just anchors in the drywall (no long screws into the base
plate) will fail in due time and wobble out. Try it.  Later you may
have to drill the tile to set a more secure anchor to prevent movement
of the bracket.

 
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