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Peter Bogiatzidis

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Sep 5, 2001, 8:05:02 AM9/5/01
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Hello,

Here's the situation. The toilet flushes properly, but the water won't go
down. Upon visual inspection there is no apparent waste clogging it from
above. So of course I get out the auger and am able to push it all the way
through. After trying that and a plunger several times I decide to pull up
the toilet to see if I can find any type of obstruction. I'm expecting to
find a small toy lodged in there, but still no visible sign of anything.
With the toilet removed and brought outside I simulate its' normal
operation. I can get the auger to go completely through from the bowl to the
bottom and vice-versa, but it still won't flush properly. I did manage to
get it to work once, but I'm not about to chance putting it back in place
until I can determine exactly what is causing the problem. It seems to me
that there must be something stuck inside there that is hindering the water
flow, but without being able to see it there's not much that I can do other
than go out and buy a new toilet. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks in
advance to those who respond.

Peter.


db...@sprynet.com

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Sep 5, 2001, 8:23:10 AM9/5/01
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Before you put the toilet back in take a large bucket of water, like
5 gallon plastic bucket,pail. and then fill it up with water and pour
it down the hole in the floor. it should go down, if not then its not
the toilet, its the underground plumbing. we had one where the drain
line broke and it was sucking in mud and blocking the toilet.....
hope this is not the case for you... but give it a try to make sure you
dont have this problem......
when you take the toilet outside did you pour water into the toilet
from a bucket??? this should work, or did you fill up the tank and then
try to flush?? if this is the case it might be that the water coming
from the tank going to the bowl is not moving quick enough due to the
little holes in the bowl are blocked with calcium or water deposits????
with the toilet still outside you might want to try the acid thing. get
some muriatic acid and put it into the toilet bown and hose it out. this
might get rid of some of the water buildup thats blocking the holes for
the water to get into the bowl to fill up with water to flush
properly?????
hope this helps. oh, if you need a new toilet i went to home depot and
needed an american standard color, got one for $96 delivered to home
depot, the retail price was $250 on american standards web site......
also found them about the same price on other web sites and local
showroom places wanted about the same thing $250...... hope this helps.

Dan Hicks

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Sep 5, 2001, 9:17:11 PM9/5/01
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Quickly pour a bucket full of water (about 2 gallons) into the toilet.
If it flushes OK when you do this the drain is OK. If not then the
drain is probably clogged. Very often the clog is something like a comb
or child's toy stuck in the gooseneck of the toilet bowl itself. This
can usually be seen if you pull the toilet and check from the bottom,
but not always. There can also be a clog in the drain pipe, of course.

If the drain is OK then the likely problem is limed-up jets around the
rim of the bowl and sometimes at the bottom front.

--
Dan Hicks
I find that principles have no real force except when one is well fed.
--
Twain

Brian

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Sep 6, 2001, 11:52:34 AM9/6/01
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I have a very similar problem. I think the original poster, by
removing the toilet and snaking the drain, has confirmed the problem
is deposits in the outlets under the rim. Assuming the flapper is not
closing prematurely.

Now, my problem is identical on two toilets! These toilets are in
bathrooms that are adjacent to each other. I removed one toilet when I
was re-tiling the floor. There are absolutely no clogs. I have also
visually inspected the water outlets under the rim, both toilets look
fine.

I suspect the vent in my case. I did run a hose down the vent and the
water seemed to drain fine. I'm wondering of a partally clogged vent
could cause a poor flushing toilet (As a fully clogged toilet can)?
I'm also wondering if my outlets under the rim are partally clogged
inside where I cant see?!?! (I don't think its this because my bowl
fills up but the water doesn't go down as fast.

Any suggestions for me?

Thanx

Dan Hicks <danh...@ieee.org> wrote in message news:<3B96CE96...@ieee.org>...

Dan Hicks

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Sep 6, 2001, 11:31:06 PM9/6/01
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Brian wrote:
>
> I have a very similar problem. I think the original poster, by
> removing the toilet and snaking the drain, has confirmed the problem
> is deposits in the outlets under the rim. Assuming the flapper is not
> closing prematurely.
>
> Now, my problem is identical on two toilets! These toilets are in
> bathrooms that are adjacent to each other. I removed one toilet when I
> was re-tiling the floor. There are absolutely no clogs. I have also
> visually inspected the water outlets under the rim, both toilets look
> fine.
>
> I suspect the vent in my case. I did run a hose down the vent and the
> water seemed to drain fine. I'm wondering of a partally clogged vent
> could cause a poor flushing toilet (As a fully clogged toilet can)?
> I'm also wondering if my outlets under the rim are partally clogged
> inside where I cant see?!?! (I don't think its this because my bowl
> fills up but the water doesn't go down as fast.

It would be extremely unusual for a vent problem to cause poor flushing.

Try dumping a bucket of water rapidly into the bowl. If it flushes
normally (glug glug) then the outlets around the rim (and possibly at
the bottom front) are clogged.

--
Dan Hicks
This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do
with it. --Emerson

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