Painting over dark color on plaster
k conover
living room. I want to change it to a warm camel or terracotta color.
1) Do I have to put something over the dark paint first (someone mentioned
a product called--I think--"Kilz" or something like that to cover the darker
color) or can I just give it two coats to cover it? Do foam rollers work
on plaster as well as they do on drywall?.
2) Also, any ideas on the best brands and/or types of paint--I've heard
plaster is tricky because a shiny paint will show off imperfections.
3) I'm even up for trying to glaze the walls (however that's done--I've
seen it on HGTV and I love the look)--to try to give it a "Venetian" look.
Help! And thanks...
Kirsten
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>Hi, I'm moving into a house that has a dark royal blue paint job in the
>living room. I want to change it to a warm camel or terracotta color.
> 1) Do I have to put something over the dark paint first (someone mentioned
>a product called--I think--"Kilz" or something like that to cover the darker
>color) or can I just give it two coats to cover it?
Personally, I prefer a shellac like Zinnser's BIN. It goes on thin,
dries very quickly, and leaves a nice, flat, opaque surface on which to
paint. That said,
>Do foam rollers work on plaster as well as they do on drywall?
Sure.
>2) Also, any ideas on the best brands and/or types of paint--I've heard
>plaster is tricky because a shiny paint will show off imperfections.
For walls, I'd use nothing glossier than an eggshell or satin finish;
anything shinier will look tacky. In general, brands you buy at paint
stores are better than brands you buy at KMart or Sears, and good brands
are Benjamin Moore and Sherwin Williams. Regardless of the brand you
select, buy that brand's premium line of paint; the value line will be
inferior no matter what brand you buy.
>3) I'm even up for trying to glaze the walls (however that's done--I've
>seen it on HGTV and I love the look)--to try to give it a "Venetian" look.
I like walls just one color, but search Google for glazing. There should
be a lot of info on the web about that.
MrAoD
>"k conover" <kirst...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi, I'm moving into a house that has a dark royal blue paint job in the
>>living room. I want to change it to a warm camel or terracotta color.
>> 1) Do I have to put something over the dark paint first (someone mentioned
>>a product called--I think--"Kilz" or something like that to cover the darker
>>color) or can I just give it two coats to cover it?
>
>Personally, I prefer a shellac like Zinnser's BIN. It goes on thin,
>dries very quickly, and leaves a nice, flat, opaque surface on which to
>paint.
One note, priming with shellac will up the gloss level of whatever finish coat
you use a notch. While this may not be a problem for you in this instance,
don't use BIN or KILLZ when priming a spot. DAMHIKT.
One shade-tree painter I knew told me that he always primed dark color walls
with battleship gray primer. Claimed that it covered any dark color in a
single coat and white would cover gray no problem. YMMV.
Marc
Joseph Meehan
over dark or light colors is equally difficult. If you use cheap paint it
is impossible, with really good paint, even a single good coat does a good
job.
--
Joseph E. Meehan
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mark Ransley
3/4" roller a 5 gallon bucket and screen. Use the best paint you can it
will cover better, do 2 coats if necessary.
Eric Lee Green
> Hi, I'm moving into a house that has a dark royal blue paint job in the
> living room. I want to change it to a warm camel or terracotta color.
> 1) Do I have to put something over the dark paint first (someone mentioned
> a product called--I think--"Kilz" or something like that to cover the darker
> color) or can I just give it two coats to cover it? Do foam rollers work
Two coats will cover it, but you probably want the first coat to be a plain
old primer, which is cheaper than paint. "Kilz" is a particular brand of
premium primer.
> 2) Also, any ideas on the best brands and/or types of paint--I've heard
> plaster is tricky because a shiny paint will show off imperfections.
That's why you texture the wall (i.e., deliberately put imperfections onto
the wall).
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>One note, priming with shellac will up the gloss level of whatever finish coat
>you use a notch. While this may not be a problem for you in this instance,
>don't use BIN or KILLZ when priming a spot. DAMHIKT.
>
>One shade-tree painter I knew told me that he always primed dark color walls
>with battleship gray primer. Claimed that it covered any dark color in a
>single coat and white would cover gray no problem. YMMV.
>
>Marc
>
>
Primer won't have much effect on coverage, because the paint has to hide
the primer, too. May take three coats over dark color, depending what
you put over it. Gloss is a horrible choice for walls, unless it is an
institutional kitchen or restroom, IMO. There are oodles of samples and
books available on glazing techniques. Results will vary a great deal
with different color combinations. May be a good idea to get a
selection of acrylic hobby paints (bottles) and try out the colors you
like, and then take samples when you purchase the product you want to
use on the walls. Doing glazes on walls with water soluble paint may be
much more difficult than doing it with solvent based glazes because the
water base will dry a lot faster. You can buy, I believe, additives for
both that slow dry time to give you time to get it the way you want it.
I like the effect but have never had the nerve to try it on walls.
Have done it on furniture and decorations. I mix my own for those
projects. Mineral spirits, linseed oil, alkyd base paint.
D. Gerasimatos
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>"k conover" <kirst...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>Hi, I'm moving into a house that has a dark royal blue paint job in the
>>living room. I want to change it to a warm camel or terracotta color.
>> 1) Do I have to put something over the dark paint first (someone mentioned
>>a product called--I think--"Kilz" or something like that to cover the darker
>>color) or can I just give it two coats to cover it?
>
>Personally, I prefer a shellac like Zinnser's BIN. It goes on thin,
>dries very quickly, and leaves a nice, flat, opaque surface on which to
>paint. That said,
I have plaster walls and I used BIN primer on them. I also tried Kilz Latex
primer. BIN makes a huge mess that is hard to clean up. It is thin and
runny and does not clean up with water. That said, the BIN primer does seem
to do a better job on plaster walls.
Dimitri