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lorraine

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Sep 8, 2003, 12:21:35 AM9/8/03
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I already know you're not supposed to put latex paint over oil paint but I
don't know why. Will it not adhere? Crackle?

We painted our kitchen cabinets probably 7 years ago and they desperately
need repainting. When we did it with oil based, it was a week or so long
project and I really don't see where the oil based held up any better than
other furniture projects painted with latex...


JoeM

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Sep 7, 2003, 11:19:41 PM9/7/03
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I think you have it reversed. Latex over properly prepared oil should be
fine as long as you don't have too many coats of oil. Oil over latex can
cause problems because the oil becomes brittle and has a softer latex coat
underneath it.

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lorraine

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Sep 8, 2003, 2:50:02 AM9/8/03
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Wow...that'd be great as I could do this myself in a couple of days...

Now, just what is "properly prepared"?

Thanks for the response.

Lorraine


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JoeM

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Sep 8, 2003, 12:48:38 AM9/8/03
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"Properly prepared" varies with the type of existing coating, its condition,
and the type of "latex" paint that you will be using. Best bet is to follow
the recommendations of the paint manufacturer and your retailer. I would
suggest avoiding the cheaper paints and going to a retailer that can give
you good advise.

I am a home-owner and not a painter. I dislike using "latex" in gloss or
semi-gloss on cabinetry because I always get more brush marks than I like.
An good painter could probably do better, but I never have been able to.

You might try groups.google.com to see various comments in groups like this
before you talk to a retailer.

Good luck.

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Jeff Cochran

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Sep 8, 2003, 7:02:46 AM9/8/03
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 21:21:35 -0700, "lorraine" <lorr...@sgi.net>
wrote:

Scrape, sand, prime with oil, paint with latex. Although oil is often
a better choice for the final finish in a kitchen cabinet, and even
more common now is to spray either latex or oil. Might want to use a
mildew additive if the are is often damp, though it's not as critical
in a kitchen as a bath.

The real key is the scraoing, sanding and priming. The final coat is
just icing.

Jeff

Alan

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Sep 8, 2003, 8:03:36 AM9/8/03
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On Sun, 7 Sep 2003 21:21:35 -0700, "lorraine" <lorr...@sgi.net>
wrote:

>I already know you're not supposed to put latex paint over oil paint but I

I once put latex over oil after sanding. Because it chipped off with
the slightest contact, I had to sand it all off and do it over. I
used oil. Since then I have first applied Fresh Start primer before
the latex and have had no problems at all.

John Willis

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Sep 8, 2003, 6:00:08 PM9/8/03
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 04:48:38 GMT, "JoeM"
<e4pg...@NOsneakSPAMemail.com> scribbled this interesting note:

>I am a home-owner and not a painter. I dislike using "latex" in gloss or
>semi-gloss on cabinetry because I always get more brush marks than I like.
>An good painter could probably do better, but I never have been able to.

As another homeowner who has refurbished numerous houses, Latex enamel
on woodwork always seems to give a poor finish. It cannot be sanded.
The previous painter almost never properly prepares the old paint and
the latex eventually peels off in sheets.

Oil based paint on woodwork gives the best finish.


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Stephen Hull

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Sep 9, 2003, 2:15:28 PM9/9/03
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John Willis <jdwi...@airmail.net> wrote:

>Oil based paint on woodwork gives the best finish.

Absolutely,
Oil based paint on woodwork has worked well for centuries on the likes
of horse drawn carriages etc, I see no reason why the same paint albeit
using modern technology cannot work just the same on household woodwork.

Can't see emulsion/latex holding up to well, but I could be wrong.

Steve.


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