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Deer eating hostas and plants - pls suggest repellent method?

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BobMCT

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Jun 17, 2013, 9:06:07 PM6/17/13
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Well, they're at it again this year. My newly grown hostas and
planted flowers are just stems. I know the culprits 'cause I've seen
thmn and photographed them and they all look guilty as sin. Yep,
caught in the act!
Obviously its too late again this year but how about some tried and
true remedies for a deterent for next years growth? And please don't
suggest shooting them? The wife thinks their "cute".

Thanks

Bob F

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Jun 17, 2013, 9:18:00 PM6/17/13
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An 8-10 foot fence is probably the most effective deterent.


Oren

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Jun 17, 2013, 9:18:29 PM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:06:07 -0400, BobMCT <r.mar...@fdcx.net>
wrote:

> And please don't
>suggest shooting them? The wife thinks their "cute".
>
>Thanks

Smack 'em in the skull with a hammer. Between the eyes.

If you get close enough. Or jump them and slit their throat with a
Bowie knife.

Teach the wife to eat venison.

Dan Espen

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Jun 17, 2013, 9:31:39 PM6/17/13
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Hosta and Deer.

I know the problem well.
I tried for years, repellents, nets, lights, in short nothing works.

Except a fence:

http://mysite.verizon.net/despen/fence/

I can't believe it's only the 4th year I've had the fence.
The difference in the yard is dramatic.
The hostas are getting huge and I'm dividing them and spreading them.
I actually have flowers bloom now.
Besides hostas, deer love to eat flowers.
Every year they'd get the yucca, this year I have 8 stalks on the yucca
and I'll actually see the flowers.

--
Dan Espen

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Jun 17, 2013, 10:26:09 PM6/17/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 18:18:00 -0700, "Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com>
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Electric fence. Multiple strands both sides and above - alternated
live and grounded. To reach the hostas will require contact with 2
wires - guaranteeing a good shock - which WILL keep them away.

willshak

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Jun 17, 2013, 11:28:49 PM6/17/13
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Try 'Liquid Fence Deer and Rabbit Repellent'.
http://www.liquidfence.com/
It'll smell like hell when first sprayed on the plants but the smell
will dissipate in a few minutes. Available at the big box stores and
gardening centers.
It worked for me.


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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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The Daring Dufas

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Jun 17, 2013, 11:37:15 PM6/17/13
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Some government moron will show up and demand a wildlife bridge or
tunnel to bypass your fence allowing all the critters access to your
yard. Some fuzzy bunny probably filed a complaint. o_O

TDD

willshak

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Jun 17, 2013, 11:39:17 PM6/17/13
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Try 'Liquid Fence Deer and Rabbit Repellent'.
http://www.liquidfence.com/
It'll smell like hell when first sprayed on the plants but the smell
will dissipate in a few minutes. Available at the big box stores and
gardening centers.
It works for me.

willshak

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Jun 17, 2013, 11:56:59 PM6/17/13
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Try 'Liquid Fence Deer and Rabbit Repellent'.
http://www.liquidfence.com/
It'll smell like hell when first sprayed on the plants but the smell
will dissipate in a few minutes. Available at the big box stores and
gardening centers.
It worked for me.

VM

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Jun 18, 2013, 12:56:08 AM6/18/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:06:07 -0400, BobMCT <r.mar...@fdcx.net>
wrote:

Your wife is right--they're beautiful creatures. If I had a field, I'd
grow flowers just so I could watch the deer.

Others have probably advised you correctly about fences. I just wanted
to mention that I've seen repellants on the Havahart site:
http://www.havahart.com/

Not sure if their repellants work, but their traps are great. I do
volunteer work, rescuing injured animals, and I've used quite a few of
them. But best research the repellants or call the company first.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jun 18, 2013, 5:55:04 AM6/18/13
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:56:08 -0400, VM <nos...@nospam2.com> wrote:



>
>Not sure if their repellants work, but their traps are great. I do
>volunteer work, rescuing injured animals, and I've used quite a few of
>them. But best research the repellants or call the company first.

Better is DIY. Go the your barber and take some of the hair he sweeps
up every day. Spread it around the plants. I know two people doing
that with 100% results.

The other is to pee on them. Human urine scent keeps them away too.
I'm not sure how often you have to do that.

Jim Elbrecht

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Jun 18, 2013, 7:26:00 AM6/18/13
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With a 10 foot moat of boiling oil on both sides. And claymores. . .
and a 100 yard mine field.

Deer eat vegetation. They've got nothing better to do- and the grass
is always greener. . . Plant enough for everyone. Or plant stuff
deer don't eat. [as much]

Jim

Stormin Mormon

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Jun 18, 2013, 8:08:23 AM6/18/13
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Do fences help with Mexican border criminals, too?

I'd guess chain link steel fence, not something deer
can chew through?
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Stormin Mormon

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Jun 18, 2013, 8:11:47 AM6/18/13
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After all, the government worker will say, it's not FAIR.


THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER
The Original Version..

The ant busts his ass in the withering heat all summer long, building
his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper
thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.
Come winter the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food
or shelter so he dies out in the cold.


The New Liberal Version...

It starts out the same but when winter comes the shivering grasshopper
calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be
allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving.
CBS, NBC, and ABC show up and show pictures of the shivering
grasshopper next to film of the ant in his comfortable home with a
table filled with food.

America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can it be, in a country
of such wealth that this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?
Then a representative of the NAAGB (The National Association of Green
Bugs) shows up on Night Line and charges the ant with "Green Bias" and
makes the case that the grasshopper is the victim of 30 million years
of greenism. Kermit the frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and
everybody cries when he sings "It's Not Easy Being Green."

Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on the CBS
evening news and tell a concerned Dan Rather That they will do
everything they can for the grasshopper who has been denied the
prosperity he deserves by those who benefited unfairly during the
summer, or as Bill refers to it, the "Temperatures Of The 80's".

Finally the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity and Anti-Greenism Act"
RECTRO-ACTIVE to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for
failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and having
nothing left to pay his Retro-Active taxes, his home is confiscated by
the government.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of
the ant's food while the government house he's in....which just
happens to be the ant's old house.... crumbles around him since he
doesn't know how to maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow.
And on the TV; which the grasshopper bought by selling most of the
ant's food, Bill Clinton is standing before a wildly applauding group
of Democrats announcing that a new era of "Fairness" has dawned in
America.

THE END

Author Jim Quinn, WRRK FM 97 in Pittsburgh



The New Orleans Version...

It starts out the same but when winter comes the shivering grasshopper
is loaded on to a bus, and taken to Houston, to live in the Super
Dome. He lives in miserable situation, and complains endlessly about
his plight. He is released to Dallas, and given a $2,000 debit card,
which he promptly spends on grass, greens, and wine and beer. He is
found dead in an alley, having died of cirrhosis of the liver.

Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on the CBS
evening news and tell a concerned Dan Rather That they will do
everything they can for the grasshopper who has been driven out of his
home. At the expense of those who benefited unfairly in New Orleans.

Finally the FEMA and National Guard guys get around to the ant's home.
The hard working ant is found to be hoarding, and is handcuffed, and
dragged out. The National Guard finds stores of grains, and other
foods and water. The grains, food, and water are loaded onto trucks,
and taken back to FEMA headquarters. Where the grains sit in a
warehouse.

The ant is tried under anti-hoarding laws, and his home is confiscated
by the government.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper's remains rotting in an
alley. The ant is relocated to a FEMA camp in Idaho, where he lives a
long, and bitter life. Complaining endlessly about what hard work got
him.

========================

THE BRITISH VERSION

The ant works hard in the withering heat all
summer long, building his house and laying up
supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks
he's a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the
summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and
well fed.

The shivering grasshopper calls a press
conference and demands to know why the ant should
be allowed to be warm and well fed while others
less fortunate, like him, are cold and starving.

The BBC shows up to provide live coverage of the
shivering grasshopper; with cuts to a video of
the ant in his comfortable warm home with a table
laden with food.

Britons are stunned that in a country of such
wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to
suffer so while others have plenty.

The Labour Party, Greenpeace and The Grasshopper
Council of GB demonstrate in front of the ant's
house. The BBC, interrupting a Jamaican cultural
festival special from Notting Hill with breaking
news, broadcasts them singing "We Shall Overcome"

Ken Livingstone rants in an interview with Trevor
McDonald that the ant has gotten rich off the
backs of grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate
tax hike on the ant to make him pay his "fair
share".

In response to polls, the Labour Government
drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti
Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning
of the summer.

The ant's taxes are reassessed, and he is also
fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as helpers.

Without enough money to pay both the fine and his
newly imposed retroactive taxes, the government
repossesses his home.

The ant moves to Spain, and starts a successful wine-exporting
company.

A Panorama special later shows the now fat
grasshopper finishing up the last of the ant's
food, though Spring is still months away, while
the council house he is in, which just happens to
be the ant's old house, crumbles around him
because he hasn't bothered to maintain it.

Inadequate government funding is blamed, Trevor
Phillips is appointed to head a commission of
enquiry that will cost £10,000,000.

The grasshopper is soon dead of a drug overdose,
the Daily Mirror blames it on the obvious failure
of government to address the root causes of
despair arising from social inequity.

The abandoned house is taken over by a gang of
immigrant spiders, praised by the government for
enriching Britain's multicultural diversity, who
promptly set up a marijuana plantation and
terrorise the community.

THE END

======================

THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER
The New Conservative "Neocon" Version...

The ant busts his ass in the withering heat all summer long, building
his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper
thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away.
Come winter the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food
or shelter and thus develops severe lazyassiopsia.

A large pharmaceutical, Wasp Meds, Inc., decides a study on
lazyassiopisia is needed and says the ant, all the other ants and all
the grasshoppers and other insects, have to pay for it. Further
research, also funded by the ants, grasshoppers, and other insects
(all except the Wasps), reveals a drug that may *possibly* be of
benefit to those with lazyassiopsia.

The ants et al. funds the research and trials for the drug.

The High Council of Insects (aka, the Gruberment), says the drug is
safe and necessary and grants them a patent.

Wasp Med, Inc., who gives a large amount of the ants et al. money to
their friends in the Gruberment, steers clear of all television or
other media, except to say that they have a wonder drug for
lazyassioposia. They do not tell the other ants et al. that they all
have paid for this wonder drug themselves.

The wasps sell the drug for $1,000. It costs them $1 to make it. The
make lots and lots of money. Wasp Meds, Inc. ask the Gruberment for
more of the ants et al. money to make an even better drug. The
Gruberment says, "Sure!"

The ants, the grasshopper and the other insects (except for the
wasps), have to work harder and harder for the money they need to
support themselves and also give to the Gruberment (who gives a lot of
it to Wasp Meds, Inc.).

Then, suddenly, one day a Robin tore open an ant hill and killed and
ate the ants inside. The Gruberment decided this could not be allowed.
They assembled an army of ants, grasshoppers and other insects to
attack the Robins. And they killed 3 of them. 200 ants, 145
grasshoppers, and 300 other insects were killed in the battle. But
everyone in the Kingdom of the Ants were very proud.

But then the Gruberment decided that maybe Mice could also come and
attack the kingdom of insects. They did not care that Mice did not eat
ants or other insects. The Gruberment told all the ants, grasshoppers
and other insects that the Mice might come and eat them if they did
not kill them all first. The ants, grasshoppers and other insects were
very afraid. They had never seen a Mouse, but the Gruberment said they
were very dangerous. So another army of insects were sent to Miceraki.
The insects killed many, many Mice. They tore up their nests and
destroyed the land of Miceraki.

The Gruberment told the ants, grasshoppers and other insects that the
High Holy Insect in the Sky saw all the killing and said it was good.
The insects were very proud, althought they weren't quite sure why.

The insects fought bravely, and some of them died. They needed food
and other things to keep on fighting the Mice.

Back in the Kingdom of the Insects, another company, called
Weevilburton, said they would provide everything the army of the
insects needed, but it would cost a lot of money. The ants,
grasshoppers and other insects had to give the Gruberment more money
so it could pay Weevilburton to bring food and other things to the
army of insects. Weevilburton took the money, but didn't send the food
and other things to the army of the insects. Weevilburton made a lot
of money.

Over in Miceraki, the army of the insects had killed almost 40,000
Mice. And almost 1,000 insects had been killed. The Mice didn't
understand why the insects wanted to kill them........ and neither did
the insects, really.

20 years later, the insects are still in Miceraki fighting the Mice.
Neither the Mice or the insects know why. Many have died. The Mice are
still angry they were attacked without reason so they have been
sending Mice squads into the Kingdom of the Insects to kill insects.
The insects are afraid all the time now. The Kingdom of the Insects
sends more insects into Miceraki to kill more Mice.

The ants have forgotten all about their crops and laying up supplies.
The grasshoppers haven't thought about laughing or dancing or playing
for many, many years.

The Weevilburtons lived happily ever after in their nests of gold.

The Ants, Grasshoppers and other insects are still fighting the Mice.
The Ants, Grasshoppers, other insects and the Mice are still killing
each other.

They still do not know why.

THE END

==============



.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"The Daring Dufas" <the-dari...@stinky-finger.net> wrote in message news:kpokc2$rqo$1...@dont-email.me...

> I tried for years, repellents, nets, lights, in short nothing works.
>
> Except a fence:
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/despen/fence/
>

Art Todesco

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Jun 18, 2013, 8:19:42 AM6/18/13
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On 6/17/2013 11:28 PM, willshak wrote:
> BobMCT wrote:
>> Well, they're at it again this year. My newly grown hostas and
>> planted flowers are just stems. I know the culprits 'cause I've seen
>> thmn and photographed them and they all look guilty as sin. Yep,
>> caught in the act!
>> Obviously its too late again this year but how about some tried and
>> true remedies for a deterent for next years growth? And please don't
>> suggest shooting them? The wife thinks their "cute".
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
> Try 'Liquid Fence Deer and Rabbit Repellent'.
> http://www.liquidfence.com/
> It'll smell like hell when first sprayed on the plants but the smell
> will dissipate in a few minutes. Available at the big box stores and
> gardening centers.
> It worked for me.
>
>
My wife used a similar product from Lowe's. You do have to reapply
after a rain. It does seem to work. When the Hostas get mature, the
deer seem to leave them alone. As someone said, there are greener (read
it younger and more tasty plant elsewhere) So you only have to do it for
a while.

Dan Espen

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:07:25 AM6/18/13
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willshak <will...@00hvc.rr.com> writes:

> BobMCT wrote:
>> Well, they're at it again this year. My newly grown hostas and
>> planted flowers are just stems. I know the culprits 'cause I've seen
>> thmn and photographed them and they all look guilty as sin. Yep,
>> caught in the act!
>> Obviously its too late again this year but how about some tried and
>> true remedies for a deterent for next years growth? And please don't
>> suggest shooting them? The wife thinks their "cute".
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
> Try 'Liquid Fence Deer and Rabbit Repellent'.
> http://www.liquidfence.com/
> It'll smell like hell when first sprayed on the plants but the smell
> will dissipate in a few minutes. Available at the big box stores and
> gardening centers.
> It worked for me.

Worked for me too.
Until I had 3 days of rain.
Then no hostas.
Every summer had at least 3 consecutive days of rain.

--
Dan Espen

Dan Espen

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:08:22 AM6/18/13
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I had plenty of mature hostas gobbled up.

--
Dan Espen

NotMe

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"BobMCT" <r.mar...@fdcx.net> wrote in message
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Start a deer hound kennel. Spray the plants with a deluted mix of Tabasco
Sause (unless the deer are from S Louisiana)



Oren

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Jun 18, 2013, 6:36:14 PM6/18/13
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On Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:11:30 -0500, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>Start a deer hound kennel.

Be careful. Give a hound a scent gland from a leg, the dog will run
himself almost to death chasin' a deer. Once they taste the scent
(deer, hog, etc.) they focus and almost never let up in pursuit.

I found a hound in the Everglades in early morning hours, after
midnight. I hunted down the owner that night. He said the dog had
been baying on a dear since before dawn.

The poor feller found his way to the highway where I found him. His
heart was pounding so hard I was worried for awhile.

Like when you train a bird dog with a wing from a bird.

I fed a scent gland from a rabbit foot to a cat. She kept the yard
free of rabbits. The other cat acted the same way - after tasting
rabbits.

Paul Franklin

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Jun 18, 2013, 8:44:48 PM6/18/13
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On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:06:07 -0400, BobMCT <r.mar...@fdcx.net>
wrote:

I live in the woods. Sometimes I have 8-10 deer in the yard. Lots of
fawns around now.
Deer Off repellant works for me. I reapply once a month or so.
I buy the concentrate and apply with a garden sprayer, a good
drenching. You can't skimp. Usually the deer won't go near the
treated plants, but I've seen one take a nibble of a hosta and then
quickly move on.

However, living in the woods there are plenty of other options for
them. In more urban areas I think it is harder to dissuade them. On
the other hand, you only have to make your stuff less appealing than
your neighbors...

Paul F.

Frank

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Jun 18, 2013, 9:06:09 PM6/18/13
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I agree but netting will act like a fence material for deer. They could
easily break through it but they won't.

Dan Espen

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Jun 18, 2013, 9:32:18 PM6/18/13
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Yes, I tried netting and failed.
My neighbor tried netting and failed.

Possibly the moral is,
if you use netting do a good job of anchoring it.

Right now, 2 panels in my neighbors fence are down.
Sandy victims.
I've bridged the gap with netting.
The first night the deer must not have known it was there and they ran
right through it.

I stapled it back up and it's been working for a month or more.
I think when they know it's there they don't want to push through it
even though they can.

--
Dan Espen

Norminn

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Jun 18, 2013, 9:53:16 PM6/18/13
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There is a deer highway between my son's and his neighbor's properties,
and the deer love hostas. They seem to have habitual territories to
range and to feed; my son's hostas get eaten, but the neighbor seems to
be more attractive to the deer. Our town has yearly deer hunts, bow and
arrow, to cull deer because they are so numerous and cause a lot of auto
accidents.

As for landscaping, it might be easier in the long run to either choose
plants that deer don't like, or, perhaps, plant what they like around
the perimeter to help keep them out of the yard. Lots of plants are
labeled as "not attractive to deer"; on-line lists as well.

I've been worrying about chipmunks eating up my newly planted veg.
garden, but since a stray cat visited for a couple of days I haven't
seen any chipmunks, which have been very numerous.

Frank

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:04:40 PM6/18/13
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I've seen that too. Once they realize they might get tangled in it or
it will annoy them they will not bother with it.

Pavel314

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:07:46 PM6/18/13
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We used to see a lot of deer around until we got sheep. Now the deer stay away. Sheep are much easier to fence in or out than deer, but this probably isn't a practical solution for most people.

nervou...@gmail.com

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Jun 18, 2013, 10:30:30 PM6/18/13
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On Monday, June 17, 2013 8:06:07 PM UTC-5, BobMCT wrote:
> Well, they're at it again this year. My newly grown hostas and
>
> planted flowers are just stems.

It worked for my mother, and she swears by it. I learned it in Field & Stream or Midwest Outdoors: Get a couple of bars if Irish Spring soap (I doubt if the brand matters, really) and spread some thick shavings around the area of concern. It will only cost a couple of bucks and is pretty much zero maintenance, as well as environmentally benign, so it won't hurt to try.

Dan Espen

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Jun 18, 2013, 11:10:34 PM6/18/13
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First thing we tried. (Before commercial repellents).

Didn't work at all.

The commercial repellents worked okay until it rained.

I learned that lesson and got buy a little longer being careful
to re-apply right after it rained.

Then we had 3 days of rain.
The deer browse in the rain, end result, no Hostas.

--
Dan Espen

BobMCT

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Jun 18, 2013, 11:14:20 PM6/18/13
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Wow! Thanks for all the replies. Interesting reading and
entertainment this evening.

FYI - the fence is out as I have a 4' high all around my wooded lot.
I've watched the deer seem to step right over it. So I'll try the
soap and most likely the repellents recommended. Also, the suggestion
to pee on the plants was a good one 'cause us old geezers have to go
more often anyway!!!

Happy Summer -

Dee

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BobMCT <r.mar...@fdcx.net> wrote in
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I also cannot put up a fence around my yard. I tried various
repellents and Deer Off seems to work the best, but none of them are as
good as a motion-sensor scarecrow sprinkler. This is the only thing
that works 100% for me.

<http://www.amazon.com/Contech-CRO101-Scarecrow-Activated-
Sprinkler/dp/B000071NUS>

Dee

Tomsic

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"willshak" <will...@00hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:kpojs4$ej0$1...@dont-email.me...
> BobMCT wrote:
>> Well, they're at it again this year. My newly grown hostas and
>> planted flowers are just stems. I know the culprits 'cause I've seen
>> thmn and photographed them and they all look guilty as sin. Yep,
>> caught in the act!
>> Obviously its too late again this year but how about some tried and
>> true remedies for a deterent for next years growth? And please don't
>> suggest shooting them? The wife thinks their "cute".
>>
>> Thanks

> Try 'Liquid Fence Deer and Rabbit Repellent'.
> http://www.liquidfence.com/
> It'll smell like hell when first sprayed on the plants but the smell will
> dissipate in a few minutes. Available at the big box stores and gardening
> centers.
> It worked for me.

> Bill
> In Hamptonburgh, NY
> In the original Orange County. Est. 1683

This year, after the first deer attack on the hostas, I tried a neighbor's
suggestion and hung chunks of Irish Spring soap bars on a string fence
around the plants. That's worked so far and I just saw a deer walk by the
hostas a few minutes ago without giving them a thought. The same thing is
also working (so far) on my elderberry bush which was eaten down to the
twigs last year.

Tomsic


denni...@gmail.com

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On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:32:18 PM UTC-4, net cop wrote:
> Right now, 2 panels in my neighbors fence are down.
> Sandy victims.

Sandy was last fall, almost 8 months ago.

What the f*ck is your neighbor waiting for to fix these 2 fence panels? Is he waiting for the government to come fix it for him?

Dan Espen

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denni...@gmail.com writes:
Uh, family news group no need for that language.

Sandy was last fall and I replaced as much of my own fence as I could
before the ground froze, and did the remainder in the spring.
I didn't have one neighbor come over and say when are you going to get
that fence repaired.

This is the second year in a row part of his fence was destroyed.

2 years ago he had 3 panels destroyed. He replaced the entire fence.
He's a great guy but a little OCD.

This year I think he called the same company.
He's doing the exact same thing, 2 panels down, he'll replace the whole
thing. I have no doubt that he's probably giving the contractor hell.
He has people working his yard just about every week.

Just about 3 weeks ago he had ALL of his sod replaced.
They rolled up the old sod, carted it off and put down new.

So, he may be a little OCD, but he's kind and keeps his yard and
home in pristine condition.

So, your scurrilous comments about waiting for the government are
way off base and totally uncalled for.

What's happened to being polite and understanding?
I know it's still alive and well in my neighborhood.

--
Dan Espen

notbob

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Jun 19, 2013, 3:51:15 PM6/19/13
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On 2013-06-18, willshak <will...@00hvc.rr.com> wrote:

> Try 'Liquid Fence Deer and Rabbit Repellent'.
> http://www.liquidfence.com/
> It'll smell like hell when first sprayed on the plants but the smell
> will dissipate in a few minutes. Available at the big box stores and
> gardening centers.
> It worked for me.

I always liked the predator piss concept. Spray lion/tiger/bear urine
around bushes and watch the bambi's scatter. I have no idea if it
really works or if it's jes a myth, but I would think it makes for
good beers around the campfire bluster. ;)

nb

Oren

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Jun 19, 2013, 4:54:04 PM6/19/13
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On 19 Jun 2013 19:51:15 GMT, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:

>I always liked the predator piss concept. Spray lion/tiger/bear urine
>around bushes and watch the bambi's scatter. I have no idea if it
>really works or if it's jes a myth, but I would think it makes for
>good beers around the campfire bluster. ;)

Um, how does one collect the urine from lions, tigers or bears :)
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