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best 100% acrylic paint for stucco?

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TGCNorton

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Oct 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/1/97
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I'm down to the wire and priming my house has begun. I would appreciate your
nominations for the BEST 100% acrylic paint to use on my 8-yr old large stucco
house. Price is not the issue, but elastomeric is not needed. Please e-mail
your nominations to nor...@tgci.com, and if you have time, related your
personal experiences as they lead to your choice. I will post the results on
this board. Thanks.


Mike

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Oct 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/2/97
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In article <19971002170...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, tgcn...@aol.com
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>The two of them (store owner, Moore rep) + my painter are all there, and try
> and persuade me that their Mooreline paint is what I should use, despite its
> not being 100% acrylic. On the other hand, they say that maybe I should use
> their Mooreguard, their midline paint which is 100% acrylic. I'm tired of
> running around to paint stores. I see absolutely no difference in expertise
> between the people at paint stores and Home Depot, etc., Guy from
> Sherwin-Williams had no idea what 100% acrylic latex paint meant, until I
> showed him the print on the can.
>
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Unfortunately this mirrors my experience as well. Actually, although I don't
consider the advice I got at Home Depot and Lowe's to be great, in comparison
to other places I went it was actually quite decent. For example, I'm not
convinced the folks here at Kelly-Moore ever saw the inside of a paint can.
The first time I went to Sherwin-Williams here nobody seemed to want to help
much at all, then I went back two days later based on more input and linked up
with some exceptionally good help, and the third time I went (to actually
purchase paint), I thought if this guy helped me last time I wouldn't be here
now. Good help is spotty, for sure.

If you have read and everyone is telling you acrylic latex is the way to go
than I think that is what you need to do. Did you ask the Benjamin-Moore
people if their top paint is acrylic at all? Prehaps it is very close to 100%
(say 95%) and therefor is close enough so as it won't make a difference. You
might also ask your painter or even BM to refer you to some other stucko houses
painted with the top-of-the-line BM to see how it ages. If you can't verify
either of these, you probably need to pick another brand. Like I said before,
you'll probably do well with any major brands top of the line acrylic latex.

Good luck!

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Mike

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Oct 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/2/97
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I just went through the same process (see the recent "Exterior Paint?"
thread). I decided it probably doesn't matter as long as you pick a mid or
high grade 100% acrylic latex paint from a major brand name (Kelly Moore,
Sherwin Williams, Benjiman Moore, Glidden, Valspar...). Forget about the
sales hype regarding "Our paint is better than the other guy's paint". They
will all say that and yet they don't have tangible evidence to back it up
(instead they talk about how unique their formulation is which doesn't mean
anything except to possibly a chemist or simply cover themselves by saying
"ours is thicker" which in the overall scheme of things doesn't mean a whole
lot).

Bottom line: Make your selection based on the service and application advice
you get at the store and pay a price you feel comfortible with and I don't
think you can go wrong. Most of the major paint companies have been in
business for at least 100 years and they didn't survive this long by making
crappy paint.


In article <19971001225...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, tgcn...@aol.com
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TGCNorton

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Oct 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/2/97
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Thanks so much for responding. My situation is interesting. My painter has
always used Benjamin Moore. All I read has suggested only use 100% acrylic
latex paint on stucco. Come to find out that Benjamin Moore top line has no
100% acrylic. I talk to their (800) line. Guy tells me that they have been
trying to get the company to make 100% acrylic latex, but all they have done
so far is to come up with a mid-grade 100% acrylic. He seems to agree that
100% acrylic is the answer. I go to another nearby Benjamin Moore outlet.
Guy tells me their top line is 100% acrylic. As I head out the door, notes in
hand, he says, "what I meant to say is that it is 'almost' 100% acrylic. If
it was 100% acrylic it would be a solid piece of plastic." I go back to
original Benjamin Moore store, owned by same people. They compliment me on my
research and say they will bring out the Benjamin Moore rep in the morning to
look at my house.

The two of them (store owner, Moore rep) + my painter are all there, and try
and persuade me that their Mooreline paint is what I should use, despite its
not being 100% acrylic. On the other hand, they say that maybe I should use
their Mooreguard, their midline paint which is 100% acrylic. I'm tired of
running around to paint stores. I see absolutely no difference in expertise
between the people at paint stores and Home Depot, etc., Guy from
Sherwin-Williams had no idea what 100% acrylic latex paint meant, until I
showed him the print on the can.

I would still like to hear anyone's experience with painting fine stucco. The
more I hear the more I think I should have had another coat of color-coat
applied by a plasterer. Unfortunately, the die has been cast. Any more
suggestions on the best 100% acrylic latex paint for fine stucco.


PaulB93AA

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Oct 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/4/97
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Darn it! You mean to tell me we've been using MoorGuard and MoorLife on stucco
in these gazillion dollar houses all these years, and it's not the right
material? :-)

Seriously, MoorLife is their top flat ext. latex, MoorGuard is a soft
gloss, And MoorGlo is their semi-gloss. They are all top of the line
products. If adhesion is a concern to you, I'd recommend a 1/2 pint. to a
pint of flood's EB to a gallon for the first coat. It will soak into the
stucco and grab it. We don't use EB normally, and have had exellent results
with BM latex on stucco when we do paint it.

In article <19971002170...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
tgcn...@aol.com (TGCNorton) writes:

Paul Broussard, friend of Bill W
Boston-JL-RF-Sherwood-Pioneer-Excalibur
Broussard Painting Contractors
Pres. Baton Rouge Dart Assoc.

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