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Cheri

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Jul 5, 2006, 12:19:37 PM7/5/06
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RobertPatrick wrote in message
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>
>Does your town have Animal Control? Call them. I think they might do
>something or have ideas.

In my town (CA) the Animal Control will come and take them away once
you've trapped them. Guessing that nobody else has the nerve to get
close to the cage with the skunk inside. ;-)

Cheri


Lawrence

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Jul 5, 2006, 12:22:47 PM7/5/06
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relpo miraculous wrote:
> > We've been smelling skunks, a lot. So have all our neighbors. There
> > have been a lot of nights I'll get home at 3am and they're there in the
> > backyard, roaming around. This morning, around 6am, I look out and
> > there's one roaming the yard. I called animal control and every other
> > govt agency I could think of and they all say it's my problem. So I put
> > out my have-a-hart cage this morning (baited with peanut butter). I sat
> > there in my car and watched the little stinker come within 15 ft of the
> > cage but didn't go in. I finally had to leave for work.
> >
> > It looks like they've setup residence in our ditch drainpipe out front,
> > by the street. Does anybody know the best way to bait for these things?
> > A neighbor says the best thing to do is cage them, then throw a tarp
> > over the cage (so they won't spray you), then drown them (I have a
> > wheelbarrow just perfect for that). Any other suggestions? (besides any
> > sissy "don't hurt him" ideas).

Licensed nuisance wildlife operators, for a fee, will get rid of
nuisance wildlife. I shoot skunks when I get the chance. I assume
this is not possible where you live. When one of 'em tried to take
refuge in the culvert I just put the barrel of the shotgun right in the
pipe. Preventative measures can be most effective. Skunks are
attracted to garbage. Take care of your garbage promptly and
encourage the neighbors to do so. There are no poisonous materials
approved for controlling skunks so a live trap is the only alternative
to shooting them. You can also attempt to prevent access to the
drainage pipe. Here is some more info:

Skunks are a valuable wildlife resource and are generally beneficial to
farmers, gardeners, and landowners because they consume a large number
of small rodents and insects. The handling of problem skunk situations
should be preventive. Control is necessary only when individual skunks
become a problem or cause economic losses.

Capturing skunks in live traps has hazards. Skunks are mild-tempered
animals; however, they defend themselves with a unpleasant musk when
frightened. If you decide to try a live trap, purchase or build one 7
inches by 7 inches by 20 inches. Set the trap near the door of the
skunk's den entrance. Use a bait such as fish-flavored pet food. You
can also use sardines, chicken innards, or bread crusts spread with
peanut butter. After the skunk is in the live trap, cover the trap with
old canvas or another heavy material. Transport it very carefully. If
you plan to release the skunk, take it at least ten miles away. Handle
the trap and its contents gently and keep it away from dogs and curious
people.

If you kill the skunk, bury the carcass. The live trap with the skunk
in it could be immersed in water until the animal drowns. Skunks seldom
spray when underwater. Shooting or clubbing the skunk will almost
always cause it to spray.

The best way to control skunks around buildings is to prevent access.
Crawl spaces under buildings or porches should be covered with metal
screening, sheet metal, or wood. Skirts around mobile homes should be
well sealed and maintained. If suspected denning places are to be
sealed off between May and mid-August, caution should be used to avoid
trapping young animals inside. If skunk activity is suspected, sprinkle
flour or ground limestone near the opening and then check for tracks
after dark. If tracks lead out of the den, then this opening can be
sealed off.

Lawrence

Doug Miller

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Jul 5, 2006, 12:29:30 PM7/5/06
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In article <Xns97F7617FC5EB...@199.185.223.74>, sam booka X2 <My...@il.is.the.kitchen> wrote:

>In case it sprays...
>
>SKUNK DEODORANT RECIPE
>
>1 Quart of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide
>
>¼ Cup of Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate)
>
>1 Tsp. Liquid Soap (Dish Detergent)
>
>Mix the above together in a plastic bucket and wash the infected object, be
>it human, canine, feline, garage, shed, car basement, etc. Make sure you
>keep the solution away from eyes, nose and mouth. The skunk odour should
>disappear immediately!

ROTFLMAO!!
>
>This product is fast and safe – and best of all, it works!

Nonsense. Clearly, you're just repeating what you read somewhere, and have
never actually tried this yourself. A few years ago, when our dog was sprayed
by a skunk, we found this *exact* recipe on the net and tried it. It didn't do
a damn thing to reduce the odor. Neither did PetSmart's shampoo that was
"guaranteed" to remove skunk scent. PetSmart gave us a refund on that one.

The old home remedy of a bath in tomato juice actually did cut the odor
substantially --- but the only thing that truly works to remove skunk smell is
TIME.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

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Jul 5, 2006, 12:55:27 PM7/5/06
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Danger -- this is from someone in Ontario Canada, where the highest
incidence of rabies exists in North America. Skunks are nocturnal animals,
they should only be out from sunset to sunrise. If they are roaming around
in the daylight, acting drunk, acting aggressive or show no fear of humans,
there is a good chance that it has rabies. DO NOT go near nor touch a rabid
skunk, one scratch from a tooth can infect you. The treatment is painful and
if not caught in time can be fatal.

"relpo miraculous" <relpomir...@MOVEomencity.com> wrote in message
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>> We've been smelling skunks, a lot. So have all our neighbors. There
>> have been a lot of nights I'll get home at 3am and they're there in the
>> backyard, roaming around. This morning, around 6am, I look out and
>> there's one roaming the yard. I called animal control and every other
>> govt agency I could think of and they all say it's my problem. So I put
>> out my have-a-hart cage this morning (baited with peanut butter). I sat
>> there in my car and watched the little stinker come within 15 ft of the
>> cage but didn't go in. I finally had to leave for work.
>>
>> It looks like they've setup residence in our ditch drainpipe out front,
>> by the street. Does anybody know the best way to bait for these things?
>> A neighbor says the best thing to do is cage them, then throw a tarp
>> over the cage (so they won't spray you), then drown them (I have a
>> wheelbarrow just perfect for that). Any other suggestions? (besides any
>> sissy "don't hurt him" ideas).
>>
>>

> Ask the good people at alt.home.repair
>
> They have the best ideas about all kinds of critter control.
> --
> Relpo Miraculous
>
> "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."


badgolferman

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Jul 5, 2006, 1:05:56 PM7/5/06
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Doug Miller, 7/5/2006, 12:29:30 PM,
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> The old home remedy of a bath in tomato juice actually did cut the
> odor substantially --- but the only thing that truly works to remove
> skunk smell is TIME.

How much tomato juice did you get? Did you just rinse the dog
afterwards?

dick

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> Danger -- this is from someone in Ontario Canada, where the highest
> incidence of rabies exists in North America.
> DO NOT go near nor touch a rabid skunk, one scratch from
> a tooth can infect you. The treatment is painful and
> if not caught in time can be fatal.

Canada sambo is rabid already. I'd fear for the skunk. :-D


dick

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Art Todesco

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Jul 5, 2006, 1:24:22 PM7/5/06
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Maybe skunks in different parts of the
countryt are "made" differently. I have
used the "formula" on our dogs with
great success. I heard this formula was
designed by a chemist and actually
neutraizes the chemical in the spray
that smells (old wives tale?). Tomato
juice only worked a little. Massengel
powder, mixed with water, worked better
than tomato juice and left a nice smell
(along with some residual skunk), but
the "formula", as I said, was best.

No

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Jul 5, 2006, 1:30:00 PM7/5/06
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relpo miraculous wrote:
>> We've been smelling skunks, a lot. So have all our neighbors. There
>> have been a lot of nights I'll get home at 3am and they're there in the
>> backyard, roaming around. This morning, around 6am, I look out and
>> there's one roaming the yard. I called animal control and every other
>> govt agency I could think of and they all say it's my problem. So I put
>> out my have-a-hart cage this morning (baited with peanut butter). I sat
>> there in my car and watched the little stinker come within 15 ft of the
>> cage but didn't go in. I finally had to leave for work.
>>
>> It looks like they've setup residence in our ditch drainpipe out front,
>> by the street. Does anybody know the best way to bait for these things?
>> A neighbor says the best thing to do is cage them, then throw a tarp
>> over the cage (so they won't spray you), then drown them (I have a
>> wheelbarrow just perfect for that). Any other suggestions? (besides any
>> sissy "don't hurt him" ideas).
>>
>>
> Ask the good people at alt.home.repair
>
> They have the best ideas about all kinds of critter control.

First of all - Around here a common thing that attracts them, besides
garbage, like someone else has said, is grubs in the lawn. Grubs, IIRC,
turn into Japanese beetles. Right now the beetles are going strong so I
suspect the grubs are gone so that may not be whats attracting them to
your area. If it is, kill the grubs and any other food source and they
will find a better place to live.

Shoot them if you can, head shot will kill before they can spray.

I'll share a funny skunk story....

Got home from church and there is a skunk crawling in my back yard. It
was early afternoon and the skunk was very lethargic. It was obviously
sick or injured. No evidence of a recent spray. And paid no attention to
me. Yelling scram solicited no response. I, like you, tried to find an
animal control. I called local borough office but was patched through to
local police. They said that the township had no animal control and
suggested to contact an exterminator. They said they sometimes might
send an officer out (What to secure the area until an exterminator
arrived?) but they were all currently tied up with a traffic incident. I
said thanks anyway and I would figure out how to deal with it.

I already knew, at that point, how I was going to deal with it. My Ruger
10/22 is very accurate. I had my wife call the neighbor behind us and
tell them to stay in the house (In case of ricochet or the skunk
spraying) I then set up position behind my truck and steadied myself on
the hood.....

Meanwhile back in the house. Wife answers the phone, its the local
police. They said they were now free to come out. She told them not to
bother that her husband was going to shoot the skunk. (Its illegal to
discharge a firearm in my neighborhood). Fortunately the officer
responded about doing so safely and said to call if there were any issues.

Back to the skunk. From my position, leaning on the hood of my truck, I
was about 10 or 15 feet away. I figured a head shot would put him down
quick and minimize possible spray. My position behind the front of the
truck would limit any exposure if he got off a shot. The skunk was
definitely ill. I could see a white froth around his mouth and he was
laying down. I yelled again to scram. He just lifted his head, looked at
me, then laid back down. OK, in the cross hairs of the scope. Yea, Yea,
no fair. 15 feet away with a scope! Head in the cross hairs. They have
little heads.

CRACK . Just a little twitch from the skunk. Did I kill him? CRACK CRACK
2 more body shots to make sure. Autoloaders are sooo cool and .22 LR
Aguila 60gr SSS rounds are very very quiet. No spray or smell.

I then proceed to double bag the beast and put him out with the trash.

The story continues!

I told a few coworkers the above story at work the next day. One guy is
a nature guy. He said that the county health department is studying and
tracking potential rabid animals and that I should call them to report a
possible rabid skunk. So, I call. They say yes they are tracking the
rabid animals and wish to perform an autopsy to determine if the animal
was rabid. I told them where it was and that they could pick it up. They
got there before the trash guys. I told them I wanted to know the
results. I wanted to know if there were rabid animals in my
neighborhood. They said they would call me back when the autopsy was
complete.

A few days passed and I got a call. The person from the county health
department told me that to determine rabies they need to examine a cross
section of the brain under a microscope. They asked me how I killed the
skunk. I said I shot it. They said I must have hit it in the head
because there wasn't enough brain matter to conclusively determine if it
had rabies! They said that it was very likely it did based on other
symptoms and my description of the animal before it was dispatched.

Anyway - Comments or criticisms of my story, technique or suggestion?

dick

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Jul 5, 2006, 1:34:58 PM7/5/06
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Since you'll have him in a cage and bagged isn't there a place where you
could release him?
That would be the Christian thing to do rather than killing, unless, of
course, you plan on making a dong-warmer out of the skin. :-D


dick

RickRyan.com wrote:
> Organfreak wrote:
>> This proves that there is a God after all, and that she has a sense of
>> humor. God is trying to tell you something. Pay attention.
>
> There is a God, and this ain't no "message". It's an animal that's made
> the mistake of invading my space. He/they must die.
>
> I spoke with my neighbor, that used to do animal control. He said to
> wrap my wire trap with a garbage bag and bait it with marshmallows &
> syrup. He said skunks go wild for it and cats & other critters won't
> care for it. He said if the skunk can't see you, he won't spray. Then
> just dunk him in a wheelbarrow or bucket of water.
>
> I have a neighbor with a couple of cats that is concerned. I may give
> her the opportunity to look inside the bag if she
> wants..............then it's dunk-em time.
>

malachi

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We always wring out the pooch afterwards and enjoy a refreshing beverage.

malachi


TimeTraveler

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Jul 5, 2006, 1:53:08 PM7/5/06
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Entertaining story.
--
Regards,
TimeTraveler

Music expresses that which cannot be said
and on which it is impossible to be silent.
- Victor Hugo

Doug Miller

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In article <Xns97F76DAEADF5...@199.185.223.74>, sam booka X2 <My...@il.is.the.kitchen> wrote:
>spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote in message
>news:KNRqg.60187$Lm5....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk
>
>In an episode of the television programme MythBusters, the hydrogen
>peroxide mix was found to be the most effective smell removal agent[5].
>
Like I said -- it's obvious that you are merely repeating what you've read or
been told, and have never actually tried this yourself.

I have.

It doesn't work.

Doug Miller

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Jul 5, 2006, 3:27:05 PM7/5/06
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Two cans, of the largest size I could find in the grocery, probably 48 ounces
each. I rinsed the dog afterward, then shampooed and rinsed again, and rinsed,
and rinsed -- took forever to get the tomato juice out of his hair. That would
depend on the breed of dog, too, I'm sure. Ours was an Australian shepherd
(long, fine, dense, fluffy hair). Something with short, coarser hair such as a
beagle or a Labrador retriever might be easier.

Doug Miller

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More likely, your dogs have never gotten the full force and effect of the
skunk's discharge. Ours unquestionably got the whole thing at a range of only
about a yard.

"Eau de skunk" is a blend of a number of malodorous chemicals, some more
volatile than others. A dog that gets sprayed up close, as ours was, gets
everything, whereas one sprayed at a greater distance isn't going to receive
quite the same cocktail.

RickRyan.com

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Jul 5, 2006, 4:03:08 PM7/5/06
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dick wrote:
> Since you'll have him in a cage and bagged isn't there a place where you
> could release him?

So you'd consider putting him inside your car, where he could spray,
and driving him somewhere? That's about stupid enough that only you'd
suggest it.

> That would be the Christian thing to do rather than killing, unless, of
> course, you plan on making a dong-warmer out of the skin. :-D

It has nothing to do with being "Christian" or not. Quit trying to
relate everything that you're against with Christ or the U.S.
government. It's stupid.

Scott Vita

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"RickRyan.com" <rick...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> So you'd consider putting him inside your car, where he could spray,
> and driving him somewhere? That's about stupid enough that only you'd
> suggest it.

I thought all you stupid rednecks had pickup trucks so you could haul
stuff.

How about just putting him in the trunk and leaving the lid open while you
drive to a place where he could be safely released?

Are you really that fucking stupid Ricky?


Scott Vita


RickRyan.com

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Scott Vita wrote:
> Are you really that fucking stupid Ricky?

I'm not fucking stupid enough to try and haul a live skunk somewhere in
my vehicle, pussy.

Scott Vita

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"RickRyan.com" <rick...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not fucking stupid enough to try and haul a live skunk somewhere in
> my vehicle, pussy.

Conclusion: Porky drives a minivan.


Scott Vita


RickRyan.com

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I drive a Celica, jerk.

Chris Lewis

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Jul 5, 2006, 4:30:34 PM7/5/06
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According to RickRyan.com <rick...@gmail.com>:


> dick wrote:
> > Since you'll have him in a cage and bagged isn't there a place where you
> > could release him?

> So you'd consider putting him inside your car, where he could spray,
> and driving him somewhere? That's about stupid enough that only you'd
> suggest it.

The pros do it all the time.

One guy I listened to said he simply approached the live trap quietly
with a chunk of old carpet as a "shield". Then drapes the carpet
over the trap, and the trap can then be carted off, skunk and all.

He's never been sprayed.
--
Chris Lewis, Una confibula non set est
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Scott Vita

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"RickRyan.com" <rick...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I drive a Celica, jerk.

Even worse.


Of course you could also call animal control once you had him bagged, but I
guess that's just too obvious.


You've posted about some really stupid personal problems recently. One
involved pussy, the other involved skunk.

I hope this won't be a pattern.


Scott Vita


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RickRyan.com

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Scott Vita wrote:
> Of course you could also call animal control once you had him bagged, but I
> guess that's just too obvious.

I did that. They won't pick it up. They won't do anything involving a
skunk. The skunk's gotta die.

I did have one other idea. Tie a rope to the trap. When the skunk's in
there, hook that to my car bumper and drag his butt around town. It'd
tear up my trap but man it might make for a good story to tell. <g>

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Doug Miller

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In article <Xns97F7B000ABDC...@216.196.97.136>, "K-Bob" <k-bob1128al...@comcast.net> wrote:
>sam booka X2 <My...@il.is.the.kitchen> could not resist divulging
>personally embarrassing information in news:Xns97F76DAEADF5DAlbertaClipper@
>199.185.223.74:

>
>>
>> In an episode of the television programme MythBusters, the hydrogen
>> peroxide mix was found to be the most effective smell removal agent[5].
>>
>>
>
>Temp de-lurk.
>
>Get *fresh* hydrogen peroxide. I have used this recipie on a dog sprayed
>from less than one foot, full-on (I witnessed it). It most definitely
>works,

The peroxide I used was a brand-new bottle, bought specifically for this
purpose.

Didn't do squat.

Sue

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In article <KNRqg.60187$Lm5....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>,

spam...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
> Nonsense. Clearly, you're just repeating what you read somewhere, and have
> never actually tried this yourself. A few years ago, when our dog was sprayed
> by a skunk, we found this *exact* recipe on the net and tried it. It didn't
> do
> a damn thing to reduce the odor. Neither did PetSmart's shampoo that was
> "guaranteed" to remove skunk scent. PetSmart gave us a refund on that one.
>
> The old home remedy of a bath in tomato juice actually did cut the odor
> substantially --- but the only thing that truly works to remove skunk smell
> is
> TIME.


several years ago, 3 skunks got into a fight under the raised fondation
of the house I was renting. (The consensus was 2 males fighthing over a
female). I had to move out and I thought I was going to go out of my
mind everything stank so much, -you name it clothing, bicycles, books
absolutely everything I owned. The landlord poured 11 gallons of
household ammonia under the house which was enough to persuade the
skunks to move out, after a week of traps failed to produce results.

Then a professional cleaning company was hired and they plastic and
taped the house shut and sprayed something like smoke that smelled like
baby powder that was used to clean up after fires in the house. they
treated it twice, that and a carpet shampoo worked miracles. I have a
nose like a blood hound and the smell was essentially gone. I could not
believe it.

The Natures Miracle skunk stuff helped too, but nowhere near as much as
the mystery stuff.

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Doug Miller

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In article <MPG.1f17058fd...@text.giganews.com>, relpo miraculous <relpomir...@MOVEomencity.com> wrote:

>> It works according to Mythbusters. Maybe it was your additional
>> crossposting stench that it failed to eliminate.
>>
>It was me who crossposted the OP inquiry to AHP for some informed advice. Your
>comment above was made to the coffeehouse only, but directed at one of the good
>people at AHR. I'm forwarding your comment back to AHR so the community there
>can see what kinds of liars and cowards we have to deal with here at the
>coffeehouse. Say it to the guys face next time, you rude, rude man.

No skin off my nose. He's just proving what I said at the beginning: that he's
only repeating what he read somewhere, and has no first-hand knowledge.

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RickRyan.com

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mindseye wrote:
> relpo miraculous <relpomir...@MOVEomencity.com> wrote
> in news:MPG.1f17058fd...@text.giganews.com:

>
> > It was me who crossposted the OP inquiry to AHP for some
> > informed advice.
>
> This type of crossposting is totally fine by me. I thought it
> was actually quite good of you to find the appropriate group
> for Rick's problem.

Since it was me who started this thread, I'll chime in here. I DO NOT
appreciate cross-posting, even if (and that's questionable) it's
well-intended. Richie has gone from bad to complete TROLLDOM in my
book.

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windwatcher

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If you call Animal Control in Connecticut, I've been told they will
kill the animal. So be aware you may be signing its death sentence.
Probably true for all wild animals that they "control". I opened my
garage door 9 days ago and frightened a skunk who ran in and fell into
my grease pit which was five feet deep. I could not get him/her out.
Tried several kinds of home-made ramps. He burrowed into the dirt wall
when I went down once to attempt rescue with a box, disappearing into
the dirt completely. I did not realize he was there again until two
days ago when he must have decided to try to get out but he was stuck.
After feeding & watering it by lowering down dishes on the end of a
hoe, last night we put down a havahart trap with a rope tied in the
handle. This morning we were all relieved that he was caught. We
hauled it up and let him out. In the past we transported a skunk out
of the area in a trap with a tarp over it. Did not know it was illegal
to do so at the time. None has ever sprayed us or our cats. These
animals are harmless and not very bright but not agressive, at least if
they're not rabid. They're very territorial however and even the
babies will fight over a bowl of cat food. The best way is to remove
the skunk miles away but this is illegal.

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