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Ubiquitous  
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 More options Sep 25 2012, 10:29 pm
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From: Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:10:05 -0400
Local: Tues, Sep 25 2012 10:10 pm
Subject: MSNBC Segment: What If Al Gore Won in 2000?
MSNBC’s “Daily Rundown” devoted nearly seven minutes of air time Friday
morning to one question: What if Al Gore had won the 2000 election?

“What if Democrats did it over again, and what if they had won?” host
Chuck Todd said in his introduction. “In today’s deep dive, we’re
looking at how history happened in an alternate universe.”

The segment ultimately goes on to interview Jeff Greenfield, the author
of43*, an e-book exploring the alternate history of Gore’s presidency
that hinges on the Elian Gonzalez case.

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--
"Nobody is interested in solutions if they don't think there's a
problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have
an overrepresentation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is,
as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the
solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this
crisis."
        -- Al Gore acknowledges exaggerating the dangers of "global
           warming"


 
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RichA  
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 1:40 am
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From: RichA <rander3...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:40:46 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 1:40 am
Subject: Re: MSNBC Segment: What If Al Gore Won in 2000?
 The country would still have been bankrupted, thanks to Bill
Clinton's policies enacted before 2000 and all Americans would be on
public transit, and on power rationing because they'd be running of
solar and wind.  Al Gore is a plague on mankind.

 
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Barry Bruyea  
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 6:17 am
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From: Barry Bruyea <damnthetorped...@duck.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:17:32 -0400
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 6:17 am
Subject: Re: MSNBC Segment: What If Al Gore Won in 2000?
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:10:05 -0400, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
wrote:

>MSNBC’s “Daily Rundown” devoted nearly seven minutes of air time Friday
>morning to one question: What if Al Gore had won the 2000 election?

>“What if Democrats did it over again, and what if they had won?” host
>Chuck Todd said in his introduction. “In today’s deep dive, we’re
>looking at how history happened in an alternate universe.”

>The segment ultimately goes on to interview Jeff Greenfield, the author
>of43*, an e-book exploring the alternate history of Gore’s presidency
>that hinges on the Elian Gonzalez case.

Given that Clinton et al had already put trailer park residents on the
road to the American Dream of owning their own homes, Gore wouldn't
have made one damn bit of difference.


 
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Michael OConnor  
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 6:54 am
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From: Michael OConnor <mpoconn...@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 03:53:59 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 6:53 am
Subject: Re: MSNBC Segment: What If Al Gore Won in 2000?
Gore being elected President wouldn't have stopped 9/11 from happening
either IMO.  The Al Qaeda operation was well underway by election day
2000 and there were so many gaps in our National Intelligence
infrastructure that it would have happened regardless of who was in
the White House.  Any any attempt of the Federalis to question or
investigate why foreigners were going to pilot training schools in the
US and not wanting to learn how to take off and land jumbo jets but
instead just wanted to learn how to fly them while the planes were
already in the air (which actually did happen) would have been
interpreted as racist and insensitive toward Muslims.

 
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 9:23 am
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From: trotsky <gmsi...@email.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:23:51 -0500
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 9:23 am
Subject: Re: MSNBC Segment: What If Al Gore Won in 2000?
On 9/26/12 5:53 AM, Michael OConnor wrote:

> Gore being elected President wouldn't have stopped 9/11 from happening
> either IMO.

Perhaps you need to go back and review the PDB that Bush ignored.

 
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 10:08 am
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From: Ashley Johnson <ajohn...@nowhere.for.now.invalid>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:08:06 -0500
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 10:08 am
Subject: Re: MSNBC Segment: What If Al Gore Won in 2000?

On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:23:51 -0500, trotsky wrote:
> On 9/26/12 5:53 AM, Michael OConnor wrote:
>> Gore being elected President wouldn't have stopped 9/11 from happening
>> either IMO.

> Perhaps you need to go back and review the PDB that Bush ignored.

Perhaps you need to shut the fuck up, you braindead, bootfucked ko0k.

 
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Barb May  
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 1:45 pm
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From: "Barb May" <barb...@nonofyourbusinessx.tv>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 10:45:15 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: MSNBC Segment: What If Al Gore Won in 2000?
Ubiquitous wrote:

"Nobody is interested in solutions if they don't think there's a
problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have
an overrepresentation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is,
as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the
solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this
crisis."
        -- Al Gore acknowledges exaggerating the dangers of "global
           warming"

Further proof that climate change deniers don't know what they hell they
are talking about. The phrase "overrepresentation of factual
presentations" doesn't mean lies or exaggeration. It means spending a
lot more time explaining the dimensions of the problem than discussing
the solutions. People who can't even parse this statement correctly
don't have the intellectual capacity to make an informed decision.

And of course the Gore statement was taken out of context by Right Wing
propagandists to make it easier to lie about what it means. Here's the
context:

"Nobody is interested in solutions if they don't think there's a
problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have
an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is,
as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the
solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this
crisis. Over time that mix will change. As the country comes to more
accept the reality of the crisis, there's going to be much more
receptivity to a full-blown discussion of the solutions."

--
Barb


 
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Allen W. McDonnell  
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 2:58 pm
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From: "Allen W. McDonnell" <tan...@peakoil.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:58:30 -0400
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: MSNBC Segment: What If Al Gore Won in 2000?

> The segment ultimately goes on to interview Jeff Greenfield, the author
> of43*, an e-book exploring the alternate history of Gore's presidency
> that hinges on the Elian Gonzalez case.

Just bought the kindle edition will have more to say once I get a chance to
read it.

--
~Always appeal to a man's enlightened self interest, you can trust him to
look out for himself honestly.
It is when you appeal to his Honor or the Common Good that he stops paying
attention. ~


 
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 3:20 pm
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From: fairwa...@gmail.com (Derek Lyons)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:20:41 GMT
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 3:20 pm
Subject: Re: MSNBC Segment: What If Al Gore Won in 2000?

Translation:  I simply won't speak to anyone who doesn't agree with me
and dismiss them and anything they have to say out of hand.  Here,
have some kool-aid.

D.
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-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL


 
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Barb May  
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 More options Sep 26 2012, 3:27 pm
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From: "Barb May" <barb...@nonofyourbusinessx.tv>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:27:32 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 26 2012 3:27 pm
Subject: Re: MSNBC Segment: What If Al Gore Won in 2000?

Oh, here's a shock. Someone who can't parse Gore's statement correctly
thinks he is able to translate my statement.

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