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Just how identical was the Olympic?

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DaVoice1

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Dec 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/16/96
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In most any book I've read, or documentary I've seen, on the Titanic,
there always seems to be a reference to the Olympic being Titanic's
near-identical twin. I know of some of the differences in terms of the
gross tonage, the configuration of the decks and the number of first-class
cabins, but in most other matters, the two ships are always referred to as
being virtually identical. I believe Ballard even used some of the
woodwork and window designs from the Olympic to help him identify parts of
the Titanic wreckage.

My question is this: Was the Olympic identical right down to the grand
staircase with the clock and the cherub and everything? Or were they
merely "identical" in the sense that their basic design and configuration
were the same? Was it a carbon-copy, or a resonable facsimile thereof?

John L

John223362

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Dec 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/17/96
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the titanic had addition of a few more first class cabins and couple
private promenades for two of the first class cabins. The Titanic also
had a larger first class restaurant, a Cafe Parisien (Paris sidewalk
cafe). There were also a slight difference of design in some of the
cabins of the first class. from the exterior the only diference was the
enclosed a deck and a slight different appearance in windows of B deck.

John W Rogers

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Dec 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/18/96
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They were essentially built from the same plans. The only major
differences were the arrangement of "B" deck and the screened in portion
of "A" deck. There were minor differences in the arrangement of some
rooms; in the Officer's quarters on the Boat deck, some cabins added to
"A" deck and the Turkish Baths on "F" deck, for example.

The decor of the public rooms was identical on both ships (except, of
course, for the facilities found only on the Titanic).

The Brittanic, however, had many design differences, both in arrangement
and decor, from her 2 predecesors.


JWR

Rich

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Dec 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/18/96
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Every book I've read that touches on the subject seems to suggest that
they WERE virtually identical in things like decor (floor coverings,
paneling, etc.). But, like you, I've never been able to discover if the
Olympic also had the grand staircase with "Honor and Glory Crowning
Time," or merely a "reasonable facsimile" with perhaps an oil painting
or a more modest clock on the landing. I'd like to know, too.

John W Rogers

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Dec 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/19/96
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Rich wrote:
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> Every book I've read that touches on the subject seems to suggest that
> they WERE virtually identical in things like decor (floor coverings,
> paneling, etc.). But, like you, I've never been able to discover if the
> Olympic also had the grand staircase with "Honor and Glory Crowning
> Time,"


Yes.


JWR

DaVoice1

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Dec 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/20/96
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<Yes.>>

The above seem to be responses to my original post -- not sure, as
accessing the newsgroups on AOL has been iffy the last several days, and I
seem to have lost a few posts. But the above provides me with my answer
-- which leads me to another question...

A couple of sources I've read state that very few pictures were ever taken
of the Titanic's interiors, and that most pictures we see in books and
doumentaries are actually the Olympic. In pictures of the grand
staircase, are we looking at the Olympic?

John L

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Dec 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/22/96
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davo...@aol.com (DaVoice1) wrote:

>A couple of sources I've read state that very few pictures were ever taken
>of the Titanic's interiors, and that most pictures we see in books and
>doumentaries are actually the Olympic. In pictures of the grand
>staircase, are we looking at the Olympic?

As far as I'm aware, yes. The less scrupulous sources even try to
pass off exterior broadside shots of the Olympic as being the Titanic.
The lack of glaxing on th forward promenade deck gives the game away.
As you correctly say, few actual pictures of the Titanic (exterior or
interior) exist.


--
Rob
on...@dial.pipex.com


charles

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Dec 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/23/96
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John W Rogers <arth...@sprynet.com> wrote in article
<32B89F...@sprynet.com>...

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: The Brittanic, however, had many design differences, both in arrangement


: and decor, from her 2 predecesors.
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: JWR

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John,

Don't leave us hanging like that, Details please ;-)

-Charles

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