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Dan Goodman
Jan 25, 2012, 9:11:15 PM1/25/12
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"Have you heard about Vatican III? The bishops are bringing their wives."
"Have you heard about Vatican IV? The bishops are bringing their
husbands."
It's a joke, of course. But I consider it likely that Vatican III will
make surprising changes. And, following the precedents of Vaticans I
and II, result in at least one schism.
What changes? It's become easier for Anglicans in the UK and US to
become Catholics; and they get to keep some of the Anglican liturgy. It
probably won't take Vatican III to extend this to Anglicans elsewhere.
But perhaps Vatican III will see something of this kind for other
branches of Protestantism. (Within limits; I don't expect there to be a
Quaker Rite.)
The role(s) of women will probably be enchanced, though I don't expect
women to be admitted to priesthood.
When will Vatican III take place? I would expect it some time in the
second half of this century.
--
Dan Goodman
"Have you heard about Vatican IV? The bishops are bringing their
husbands."
It's a joke, of course. But I consider it likely that Vatican III will
make surprising changes. And, following the precedents of Vaticans I
and II, result in at least one schism.
What changes? It's become easier for Anglicans in the UK and US to
become Catholics; and they get to keep some of the Anglican liturgy. It
probably won't take Vatican III to extend this to Anglicans elsewhere.
But perhaps Vatican III will see something of this kind for other
branches of Protestantism. (Within limits; I don't expect there to be a
Quaker Rite.)
The role(s) of women will probably be enchanced, though I don't expect
women to be admitted to priesthood.
When will Vatican III take place? I would expect it some time in the
second half of this century.
--
Dan Goodman
Dan Goodman
Jan 25, 2012, 9:11:15 PM1/25/12
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Richard Gadsden
Jan 28, 2012, 1:21:00 PM1/28/12
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In article <4f20b643$0$74958$8046...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com> on 26
see the problem with that idea.
Ending the Great Schism with the Orthodox is more likely.
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Richard Gadsden
"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death
your right to say it" - Attributed to Voltaire
Jan 2012 02:11:15 GMT, dsg...@iphouse.com (Dan Goodman) wrote:
> But perhaps Vatican III will see something of this kind for other
> branches of Protestantism. (Within limits; I don't expect there
> to be a Quaker Rite.)
The next closest, theologically, are the Lutherans, which - well, you can
> But perhaps Vatican III will see something of this kind for other
> branches of Protestantism. (Within limits; I don't expect there
> to be a Quaker Rite.)
see the problem with that idea.
Ending the Great Schism with the Orthodox is more likely.
--
Richard Gadsden
"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death
your right to say it" - Attributed to Voltaire
Dan Goodman
Jan 28, 2012, 5:03:35 PM1/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:21:00 +0000, Richard Gadsden wrote:
> In article <4f20b643$0$74958$8046...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com> on 26
> Jan 2012 02:11:15 GMT, dsg...@iphouse.com (Dan Goodman) wrote:
>
>> But perhaps Vatican III will see something of this kind for other
>> branches of Protestantism. (Within limits; I don't expect there to be
>> a Quaker Rite.)
>
> The next closest, theologically, are the Lutherans, which - well, you
> can see the problem with that idea.
One Lutheran Synod in the US refers to the Pope as the Antichrist. The
> In article <4f20b643$0$74958$8046...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com> on 26
> Jan 2012 02:11:15 GMT, dsg...@iphouse.com (Dan Goodman) wrote:
>
>> But perhaps Vatican III will see something of this kind for other
>> branches of Protestantism. (Within limits; I don't expect there to be
>> a Quaker Rite.)
>
> The next closest, theologically, are the Lutherans, which - well, you
> can see the problem with that idea.
largest one has gay clergy, not to mention female clergy. And those are
probably relatively minor difficulties....
> Ending the Great Schism with the Orthodox is more likely.
--
Dan Goodman
Jan 28, 2012, 5:03:35 PM1/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:21:00 +0000, Richard Gadsden wrote:
> In article <4f20b643$0$74958$8046...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com> on 26
> Jan 2012 02:11:15 GMT, dsg...@iphouse.com (Dan Goodman) wrote:
>
>> But perhaps Vatican III will see something of this kind for other
>> branches of Protestantism. (Within limits; I don't expect there to be
>> a Quaker Rite.)
>
> The next closest, theologically, are the Lutherans, which - well, you
> can see the problem with that idea.
> Jan 2012 02:11:15 GMT, dsg...@iphouse.com (Dan Goodman) wrote:
>
>> But perhaps Vatican III will see something of this kind for other
>> branches of Protestantism. (Within limits; I don't expect there to be
>> a Quaker Rite.)
>
> The next closest, theologically, are the Lutherans, which - well, you
> can see the problem with that idea.
One Lutheran Synod in the US refers to the Pope as the Antichrist. The
largest one has gay clergy, not to mention female clergy. And those are
probably relatively minor difficulties....
largest one has gay clergy, not to mention female clergy. And those are
probably relatively minor difficulties....
> Ending the Great Schism with the Orthodox is more likely.
--
Dan Goodman
--
Greg Goss
Jan 28, 2012, 10:38:26 PM1/28/12
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congregation. The building is cross shaped, with the entry hall as
the short "vertical" segment, a number of event rooms and various
offices as the long bar, and the two sanctuaries as the two bits of
the crossbar.
(google maps isn't giving me the "share" option -- "try again later")
Go to "sandstone ecumenical center calgary" and streetview to see the
Lutheran / Catholic sign.
Mount Calvary Lutheran.
Ascension Catholic Parish.
--
"Recessions catch what the auditors miss." (Galbraith)
Greg Goss
Jan 28, 2012, 10:42:52 PM1/28/12
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