_JFK Disease_
D. Spencer Hines
A Woman's Point Of View -- A Very Intelligent, Savvy Woman....
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PEGGY NOONAN
"JFK Disease
It's more than "hoff" wacky."
Thursday, March 4, 2004
"John Kerry certainly looks like a president--the thick steel-wool hair,
the Lincolnian planes and shadows of his face. He is tall and slim and
seems serious. He also has the guts to wear salmon-colored ties. A red
tie is red and a blue tie is blue, and red and blue know what color they
are. Salmon is a more delicate hue. Salmon can't decide what color it
is. Sometimes it's pink and sometimes it's orange. It's like wearing
ambivalence on your shirt. This is an unusual thing for a politician to
do if it's thought through, and it takes courage.
Mr. Kerry seems to me not a man of deep belief but of a certain amount
of sentiment and calculation. One has the sense he is a liberal Democrat
because of the time and place in which he was born, that he inhaled a
worldview as opposed to struggling through to one.
I have been wondering how much of Mr. Kerry's career is an essentially
unreflective meditation upon the life of John F. Kennedy. Or to put it
more directly, how much of his professional life has been a case of JFK
disease.
The murdered president dominated the imaginations of more than a
generation of Democratic politicians, and continues as their most
formative role model. President Clinton had a famous JFK complex. No one
who was there will ever forget the moment at the 1992 Democratic
Convention when the famous picture of teenage Bill Clinton pushing
himself forward to reach out to shake hands with President Kennedy
flashed across the screens that loomed over the convention floor. I was
there in Madison Square Garden, and the impact on the crowd was
electric, as if Leonardo's painting had come alive and they were
actually seeing God touch Adam.
Gary Hart in 1984 took JFK disease to the point of physically imitating
Kennedy on the campaign trail, shoving his hands distractedly in and out
of the pockets of his suit jacket, tugging at his hair (actually this
was more like Bobby Kennedy). I saw Mr. Hart do this with my own eyes
the night he won New Hampshire. I was a young writer at CBS, working on
Dan Rather's copy. I thought Mr. Hart attractive and his imitation
suggestive of deep weirdness. It turned out he did a fabulous verbal
imitation of Teddy too.
Sen. Kerry has had his JFK moments too. The other day I watched a clip
of Mr. Kerry's famous testimony to Congress on Vietnam 30 years ago.
Have you ever heard it? It was a total JFK impersonation--"hoff" for
half, etc. In the pictures that exist of Lt. Kerry in Vietnam he seems
startlingly similar in pose, squint and physical attitude to pictures of
John Kennedy with his crew in World War II. PT boats, Swift boats;
"Mahs-CHEW-sitts," the initials JFK . . .
If you saw a generation of Republican candidates doing a physical
imitation of Ronald Reagan or George Bush the elder, would you find it
weird? I think you would. The only person in politics who has ever tried
to morph himself into Ronald Reagan was Al Gore in his first debate with
George W. Bush. He even wore makeup that echoed the heightened color of
Mr. Reagan's cheeks. He wound up looking not like Mr. Reagan but like a
turn-of-the-century madam in a San Francisco whorehouse, but that's not
important. What's important is the jarring weirdness of seeing one
politician trying to make you unconsciously experience him as another
politician.
JFK was an interesting man, privately complicated and publicly merry.
When his motorcade went by in 1960, women--especially nuns, I once
read--couldn't help themselves; they jumped up and down in excitement.
The Kennedy campaign called them the jumpers. Mr. Kerry on the other
hand--well, no one jumps for him.
I didn't think a man with a face that anguished would make it this far.
I mean without other qualities that overwhelm and even counter the
message of the face, which is: I suffer from mild clinical depression,
do you?
Mr. Kerry also has me pondering the now-uneasy relationship of Democrats
and class. JFK was a millionaire's son and all the happier for it. He
benefited from it. To be a millionaire in those days was strange and
glamorous. And he'd been to Harvard. An Irish Catholic who'd gone to
Harvard: Go Jack. Mr. Kerry has used his wealth to get ahead but it does
not work as a plus for him. Wealth doesn't have the patina it used to
for Democrats.
He can't play regular guy, he's clearly not a regular guy. He seems very
much like a man who keeps a secret stash of Grey Poupon. This was said
of George Bush the elder but seems more true of Kerry.
When he speaks, both in prepared text and off the cuff, Mr. Kerry is
boring. I don't mean he doesn't make you laugh, nod or swoon, I mean he
doesn't make you think. A speech should be a text in which, ultimately,
the speaker and the audience are thinking, together. Mr. Kerry's crowds
seem to put up with his remarks and wait patiently till they end so they
can begin to cheer.
That Mr. Kerry is a boring man means the election will be dirty and
vicious. If he were interesting and dynamic and sunny, if he seemed both
experienced and sincere, he arguably could win the upcoming race without
letting his campaign get unduly nasty. But he is a charm-free zone on
the stump, and he has offered no galvanizing political philosophy or
higher meaning. His people will feel the only way he can win is to be
uniquely destructive.
How do we know that is coming? It has already begun. First the sustained
attack on the president's National Guard service. It is early for such
attacks. Second, the indiscreet threat by an unnamed Kerry adviser as
reported weeks ago in the New York Times: "Everything--everything--is on
the table." He, or she, has since been silenced. But the point was made.
And there is the repeated insistence of those around Mr. Kerry that
they're just not going to take it the way Michael Dukakis did; they'll
fight when they're attacked. In this they are peddling a story line to
the press: Democrats are unfairly attacked and have been too polite, too
gentle, too liberal to fight back.
Will this work? I haven't experienced liberals as too gentle to fight,
and I don't think anyone who pays attention to political and cultural
issues has. I have a feeling voters will experience this tack the way a
mother might experience two kids fighting in the back of the car. Johnny
screams, "Timmy hit me!" Timmy, who in fact nudged Johnny after Johnny
called him stupid, says, "I did not!" Mother admonishes Timmy: "Leave
Johnny alone." Johnny waits till she turns to smile at Timmy
triumphantly and pinch him. Timmy smacks him. "Mommy, Timmy hit me!"
Mothers in this position wind up irritated with both children, but know
in their hearts Johnny is going through a stage in which he's a weenie,
and a whiner too.
Many intelligent people think Kerry will decide to pick Hillary Clinton
for vice president. This is almost touchingly absurd. First of all,
Hillary isn't waiting at home for the guy to call. If she wants it
she'll let him know, but she doesn't want it. Why should she? She's
already been president, as it were. She's already worked hand in hand in
a White House with a guy who wasn't as sharp as she was. Moreover, she
needs more distance between her and the many scandals of the Clinton
era. By 2008 or 2012 they'll be ancient history. Then she will run, and
not for vice president. For now, Kerry doesn't want anyone who'll
overshadow him, and she would. With her on the ticket he'd be B-roll.
Very soon now she'll squelch vice presidential talk. "I made a promise
to the people of New York . . ."
The other woman of the moment, Teresa Heinz, is going to make things
fun. I saw her on C-Span give an eloquent speech a few weeks ago in
Wisconsin--notes, no text, and she didn't refer much to the notes. She
spoke interestingly of her youth, her political views. She has been
wealthy, connected and powerful for so long she has grown mildly bored
with her good fortune, and in all her time in public life she has not
developed much of an edit button. She seems in interviews like someone
who's walked through many smoke-filled rooms, waved her arms
impatiently, and told the maid to plug in a few air fresheners. She is
not awed by media people; she thinks producers and anchormen are people
who are lucky she invited them to dinner at Louisberg Square.
Mark Leibovich of the Washington Post did a brilliant and rather too
detail-rich profile of her last summer. People didn't know she
considered her late husband, John Heinz, to be her real husband until
then. It was startling, and delightful. She hasn't given an indiscreet
interview since. But she will. Before that, however, there will be a
series of long and glowing interviews from big media reporters who a)
need to foster a relationship with a possible future first lady, and b)
want to be the first to change the narrative line from "known crazy
woman" to "colorful, earthy and authentic presence--and secret power in
the campaign."
The good news about Mr. Kerry, and I mean this seriously, is he does not
appear to be insane. We now know Howard Dean was frightened he might
become president, and this perhaps led to what might be called
irrepressibility and irritability. We know Wesley Clark was . . . well,
he seemed a little mad too. The untold story of the Democratic race is
that one of our two great parties had a remarkably shallow bench. They
had no one. But Mr. Kerry is not crazy. You can imagine him as
president. You can imagine him struggling, like Mr. Clinton, to know
what precisely he wanted the presidency for once he had it, but at least
you can imagine him having it.
If he were president he would surround himself with the same
foreign-policy people Clinton did--Richard Holbrook et al. It wouldn't
be insane--Incompetent maybe, confusing certainly, and uncertain
certainly too. They would struggle. The great unmentioned fact of
Democrats in power and foreign policy right now is that they try hard to
do nothing, because if they were to do something it would be what
Republicans do. And they don't want to do that. ******
They'd be a little lost, maybe a little like JFK."
Peggy Noonan
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Yep...
DSH
MG
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> Classic!
>
> A Woman's Point Of View -- A Very Intelligent, Savvy Woman....
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>
>
> generation of Democratic politicians, and continues as their most
> formative role model. President Clinton had a famous JFK complex. No
one
> who was there will ever forget the moment at the 1992 Democratic
> Convention when the famous picture of teenage Bill Clinton pushing
> himself forward to reach out to shake hands with President Kennedy
> flashed across the screens that loomed over the convention floor. I
was
> there in Madison Square Garden, and the impact on the crowd was
> electric, as if Leonardo's painting had come alive and they were
> actually seeing God touch Adam.
>
Except that it was Michelangelo's painting. What is it with
journalists and their faux erudition?
I can't wait for Kerry to get his ass kicked in November. And never
hear or read another article about that ridiculous blowhard again.
D. Spencer Hines
Peggy or her editor should have caught the "Leonardo" gaffe.
Kerry could win -- that's the interesting part.
This is going to be a real horse race.
DSH
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Martin Reboul
"D. Spencer Hines" <D_Spenc...@usa.yale.edu> wrote in message
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> Classic!
>
> A Woman's Point Of View -- A Very Intelligent, Savvy Woman....
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> PEGGY NOONAN
>
> "JFK Disease
> It's more than "hoff" wacky."
>
> Thursday, March 4, 2004
>
> "John Kerry certainly looks like a president--the thick steel-wool hair,
> the Lincolnian planes and shadows of his face. He is tall and slim and
> seems serious. He also has the guts to wear salmon-colored ties. A red
> tie is red and a blue tie is blue, and red and blue know what color they
> are. Salmon is a more delicate hue. Salmon can't decide what color it
> is. Sometimes it's pink and sometimes it's orange. It's like wearing
> ambivalence on your shirt. This is an unusual thing for a politician to
> do if it's thought through, and it takes courage.
Who is this stupid b**ch David? She judges the potential leader of the most
powerful nation on earth by the colour of his TIE? Hilarious stuff!
> Mr. Kerry seems to me not a man of deep belief but of a certain amount
> of sentiment and calculation. One has the sense he is a liberal Democrat
> because of the time and place in which he was born, that he inhaled a
> worldview as opposed to struggling through to one.
>
> I have been wondering how much of Mr. Kerry's career is an essentially
> unreflective meditation upon the life of John F. Kennedy. Or to put it
> more directly, how much of his professional life has been a case of JFK
> disease.
JFK is the most popular US President ever, did you know that? He won a
landslide vote for that position only the other week, beating Lincoln,
Roosevelt and even Nixon hands down.... someone should tell this silly woman!
If that's a 'disease' it is one well worth catching by any candidate for the
post.
> The murdered president dominated the imaginations of more than a
> generation of Democratic politicians, and continues as their most
> formative role model. President Clinton had a famous JFK complex. No one
> who was there will ever forget the moment at the 1992 Democratic
> Convention when the famous picture of teenage Bill Clinton pushing
> himself forward to reach out to shake hands with President Kennedy
> flashed across the screens that loomed over the convention floor. I was
> there in Madison Square Garden, and the impact on the crowd was
> electric, as if Leonardo's painting had come alive and they were
> actually seeing God touch Adam.
See...?
> Gary Hart in 1984 took JFK disease to the point of physically imitating
> Kennedy on the campaign trail, shoving his hands distractedly in and out
> of the pockets of his suit jacket, tugging at his hair (actually this
> was more like Bobby Kennedy). I saw Mr. Hart do this with my own eyes
> the night he won New Hampshire. I was a young writer at CBS, working > on
> Dan Rather's copy. I thought Mr. Hart attractive and his imitation
> suggestive of deep weirdness. It turned out he did a fabulous verbal
> imitation of Teddy too.
He unfortunately also imitated JFK's prediliction for shagging anything with a
hole in it, but got caught...
JFK has been forgiven all that of course, and even been 'admired' for it...
> Sen. Kerry has had his JFK moments too. The other day I watched a clip
> of Mr. Kerry's famous testimony to Congress on Vietnam 30 years ago.
> Have you ever heard it? It was a total JFK impersonation--"hoff" for
> half, etc. In the pictures that exist of Lt. Kerry in Vietnam he seems
> startlingly similar in pose, squint and physical attitude to pictures of
> John Kennedy with his crew in World War II. PT boats, Swift boats;
> "Mahs-CHEW-sitts," the initials JFK . . .
It all looks very grim indeed for George Bush, who look like a bemused coypu
with a bird's beak instead of a nose most of the time - 8% behind in the polls
I hear. Oh dear... I doubt if you have helped him much Spency, but this woman
is digging his grave!
> If you saw a generation of Republican candidates doing a physical
> imitation of Ronald Reagan or George Bush the elder, would you find it
> weird? I think you would. The only person in politics who has ever tried
> to morph himself into Ronald Reagan was Al Gore in his first debate with
> George W. Bush. He even wore makeup that echoed the heightened color of
> Mr. Reagan's cheeks. He wound up looking not like Mr. Reagan but like a
> turn-of-the-century madam in a San Francisco whorehouse, but that's not
> important. What's important is the jarring weirdness of seeing one
> politician trying to make you unconsciously experience him as another
> politician.
Meeeow... when I wrote b**tch back there I should have written bitch shouldn't
I? Does she seriously think this crap is impressive, incisive, persuasive or
what? It certainly is highly amusing... what does she look like I wonder?
> JFK was an interesting man, privately complicated and publicly merry.
> When his motorcade went by in 1960, women--especially nuns, I once
> read--couldn't help themselves; they jumped up and down in excitement.
> The Kennedy campaign called them the jumpers. Mr. Kerry on the other
> hand--well, no one jumps for him.
> I didn't think a man with a face that anguished would make it this far.
> I mean without other qualities that overwhelm and even counter the
> message of the face, which is: I suffer from mild clinical depression,
> do you?
This Peggy obviously suffers from something far more serious! Is she actually
classed as a 'political commentator'? The mind boggles!
Have a look at the hatchet faced old sow....
http://www.thenationaldebate.com/profiles/Peggy%20Noonan.htm
A real 'wannabe Presidents wife', all false grin and jawbone. She makes the
much maligned Eleanor Roosevelt look positively attractive, with her homely,
genuine smile....
> Mr. Kerry also has me pondering the now-uneasy relationship of
> Democrats
> and class. JFK was a millionaire's son and all the happier for it. He
> benefited from it. To be a millionaire in those days was strange and
> glamorous. And he'd been to Harvard. An Irish Catholic who'd gone to
> Harvard: Go Jack. Mr. Kerry has used his wealth to get ahead but it does
> not work as a plus for him. Wealth doesn't have the patina it used to
> for Democrats.
Well, he went to Yale anyway.
> He can't play regular guy, he's clearly not a regular guy. He seems very
> much like a man who keeps a secret stash of Grey Poupon. This was said
> of George Bush the elder but seems more true of Kerry.
I bet he hasn't had all his teeth capped though...
> When he speaks, both in prepared text and off the cuff, Mr. Kerry is
> boring. I don't mean he doesn't make you laugh, nod or swoon, I mean he
> doesn't make you think. A speech should be a text in which, ultimately,
> the speaker and the audience are thinking, together. Mr. Kerry's crowds
> seem to put up with his remarks and wait patiently till they end so they
> can begin to cheer.
He's bluff, down to earth and to the point. A refreshing change. When Ms
Noonan here speaks, everyone must need a sickbag!
> That Mr. Kerry is a boring man means the election will be dirty and
> vicious. If he were interesting and dynamic and sunny, if he seemed both
> experienced and sincere, he arguably could win the upcoming race without
> letting his campaign get unduly nasty. But he is a charm-free zone on
> the stump, and he has offered no galvanizing political philosophy or
> higher meaning. His people will feel the only way he can win is to be
> uniquely destructive.
Of course, no Republican would ever sink so low.
> How do we know that is coming? It has already begun. First the sustained
> attack on the president's National Guard service. It is early for such
> attacks. Second, the indiscreet threat by an unnamed Kerry adviser as
> reported weeks ago in the New York Times: "Everything--everything--is on
> the table." He, or she, has since been silenced. But the point was made.
> And there is the repeated insistence of those around Mr. Kerry that
> they're just not going to take it the way Michael Dukakis did; they'll
> fight when they're attacked. In this they are peddling a story line to
> the press: Democrats are unfairly attacked and have been too polite, too
> gentle, too liberal to fight back.
Like his 'affair' with that woman and his 'connection' with Jayne Fonda? Silly
cow Peggy!
> Will this work? I haven't experienced liberals as too gentle to fight,
> and I don't think anyone who pays attention to political and cultural
> issues has. I have a feeling voters will experience this tack the way a
> mother might experience two kids fighting in the back of the car. Johnny
> screams, "Timmy hit me!" Timmy, who in fact nudged Johnny after Johnny
> called him stupid, says, "I did not!" Mother admonishes Timmy: "Leave
> Johnny alone." Johnny waits till she turns to smile at Timmy
> triumphantly and pinch him. Timmy smacks him. "Mommy, Timmy hit me!"
>
> Mothers in this position wind up irritated with both children, but know
> in their hearts Johnny is going through a stage in which he's a weenie,
> and a whiner too.
>
> Many intelligent people think Kerry will decide to pick Hillary Clinton
> for vice president. This is almost touchingly absurd. First of all,
> Hillary isn't waiting at home for the guy to call. If she wants it
> she'll let him know, but she doesn't want it. Why should she? She's
> already been president, as it were. She's already worked hand in hand in
> a White House with a guy who wasn't as sharp as she was. Moreover, she
> needs more distance between her and the many scandals of the Clinton
> era. By 2008 or 2012 they'll be ancient history. Then she will run, and
> not for vice president. For now, Kerry doesn't want anyone who'll
> overshadow him, and she would. With her on the ticket he'd be B-roll.
> Very soon now she'll squelch vice presidential talk. "I made a promise
> to the people of New York . . ."
And we all know how Peg gets on with Hilary, don't we!
> The other woman of the moment, Teresa Heinz, is going to make things
> fun. I saw her on C-Span give an eloquent speech a few weeks ago in
> Wisconsin--notes, no text, and she didn't refer much to the notes. She
> spoke interestingly of her youth, her political views. She has been
> wealthy, connected and powerful for so long she has grown mildly bored
> with her good fortune, and in all her time in public life she has not
> developed much of an edit button. She seems in interviews like someone
> who's walked through many smoke-filled rooms, waved her arms
> impatiently, and told the maid to plug in a few air fresheners. She is
> not awed by media people; she thinks producers and anchormen are people
> who are lucky she invited them to dinner at Louisberg Square.
Ths is a joke surely Spency? Do you realise what harm this is doing to
President Bush?
Hmmm... what a wonderfully intelligent political analysis by Ms Noonan. Thanks
for posting that Dave, I had a really good laugh. Where does she 'write' -
this is hilarious stuff, worthy of Jilly Cooper or Jackie Collins! All money
and looks...
> Peggy Noonan
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Yep...
She won't **** you Spency, now matter how much brown nosing you do. You should
be very glad of that I reckon!
Cheers
Martin
William Black
> Yep...
>
> Peggy or her editor should have caught the "Leonardo" gaffe.
>
> Kerry could win -- that's the interesting part.
That Kerry even stands a chance after the events of September 11 and then
the winning of two wars is a terrible incitement of the current US
administration.
If Bush and Co loose this one then they deserve to be shot.
--
William Black
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Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords
is no basis for a system of government
Tobie L. anderson
Amen, and don't we all? Well, at least the rational and reasonable
among us.
The idiots with their left wing, whining agendas will of course jump
all over this one.
I just had a close to screaming argurment with some subordinates at
work tonight, with them telling me "Bush is the worst President this
country ever had, he destroyed all the great stuff Clinton did to
straighten the country out after 12 years of Reagan/Bush, etc."
You get the point!
What is it that these morons are listening to? They can't all be
dingleberries hanging off of Vicky Duh Duh and tiggy's asses. (I'll
bet this fires up the flames again - God I miss those two.)
Have a nice day!
Kovas
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"Tobie L. anderson" <tob...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "MG" <morris...@yahbushoo.com> wrote in message
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> > "D. Spencer Hines" <D_Spenc...@usa.yale.edu> schrieb im
> > Newsbeitrag news:KwK1c.135$th4....@eagle.america.net...
> > > Classic!
> > >
> > > A Woman's Point Of View -- A Very Intelligent, Savvy Woman....
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > SNIP<<
> Amen, and don't we all? Well, at least the rational and reasonable
> among us.
>
> The idiots with their left wing, whining agendas will of course jump
> all over this one.
>
> I just had a close to screaming argurment with some subordinates at
> work tonight, with them telling me "Bush is the worst President this
> country ever had, he destroyed all the great stuff Clinton did to
> straighten the country out after 12 years of Reagan/Bush, etc."
>
> You get the point!
>
> What is it that these morons are listening to? They can't all be
> dingleberries hanging off of Vicky Duh Duh and tiggy's asses. (I'll
> bet this fires up the flames again - God I miss those two.)
>
> Have a nice day!
Listening to the economic reports perhaps?
Reminds me of a quote once on how Democracy was a system doomed to failure.
Can't remember it verbatim but it was to the effect that a democratic (small
d) government would last only as long as it took the people to realize that
they could vote themselves money from the public treasury. Sounds like the
Bush
Administration Tax Program doesn't it?
-Gintautas Kazlauskas
Paul J Gans
>You get the point!
>Have a nice day!
You too.
It is interesting to note that it is almost always the Bush
supporters who resort to name calling and denigrating
characterization of those who *dare* to have opposite views.
I think it would be more helpful to their cause if they
actually offered some arguments such as: Bush balanced
the budget, Bush made America feel safe again, Bush saved
Social Security, Bush ended a decade of ill-feeling in
Congress between democrats and republicans, Bush created
a foreign policy that worked with our allies instead of
against them, Bush got the government out of religion and
religion out of the government, Bush brought fiscal restraint
to government, Bush ended cronyism and secret deals. Bush took
the government out of people's private lives, etc.
Accomplishments are better than insults when it comes to
influencing people.
----- Paul J. Gans
lightsoff
> Classic!
>
> A Woman's Point Of View -- A Very Intelligent, Savvy Woman....
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> PEGGY NOONAN
>
> "JFK Disease"
Nah, come on, you need less of the "marketing via cloning" ideas and a bit
more originality. Why JFK? He scraped through an election and got shot, when
you come down to it, and moire than half the people who voted for him are
dead. Surely as a politician you'd be better off imitating people who get
landslide election results and get reelected. How about Reagan, Washington,
Coolidge, or Nixon, or surely the most successful of all, FD Roosevelt, even
if he did snuff it while in office? I'd love to see Bush younger imitate
Nixon. If you're going to go for this I-act-like-JFK lark, then you ought to
imitate a recent blockbuster actor - like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Will
Smith or eminem - to get real popular attention. Bush as the fresh prince of
Austin? How about Kerry delivering speeches in gangsta rap style? Now that
would at least put a junction on their collective personality bypasses.
Martin Reboul
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I doubt it Tobe - most of us are weary of Bush too.