ballpark costs of painting a Mopar?
AJS
I have a 71 Charger SE that needs a new paint job. There is some rust on it
that I'm going to take care of before painting (of course). Can anyone out
there give me a ballpark estimate on how much the total paint package would
cost (primer, reducer, paint, etc.)? I am a novice at this, so any replies
are appreciated. My plan is to purchase the paint system, do the body work
myself and pay someone to paint it. I need to strip the car down to bare
metal before I begin. Any suggestions on paint products? I'm looking at
PPG's Deltron system, any thoughts on that? Thanks in advcance!
-Aaron
Hemi4268
I have had several different go arounds with paint. First paint is expensive.
About $100 to $500 a gal depending on what you buy. It takes about 2 to 5 gals
to do the job.
Even professionals have problems. Weather is a big factor. Reducers are made
to work at set temps. If you are using a 80 degree reducer and somehow the
weather gets warm or cold more the 10 degrees, the paint job is distroyed.
Having it done professionally sometimes can be a problem. You find your
neighbor got his old Honda painted for $500. You go to the same guy and your
quote is $2500. Why is this so?
Well, the shop knows that nobody will be asking your neighbor where he had is
88 Honda painted. Everyone will be asking you where you got your Charger
painted. You are a driving billboard and the shop knows this. So for you, you
must have their very best even if you don't want it.
Larry
Carl Beyer
<aar...@pcezx.com> wrote:
It depends on your area... In LA, it is as follows
Earl Scheib, One Day... $500
Matching to same color, good quality paint job, $3500
Color Change, making it show quality (may be necessary with darker
colors) $5000 to $10,000
As I re-read your note, it sounds like you want to do it in your own
garage. If that is the case, $1500 or so will get you the required
materials (including gun and compressor)..
Carl
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Dean Danek
:) Alot of people prefer to use what they are acustomed to spraying. Not all
paints are the same. I painted my 70 charger last fall and was shocked at what
just topcoat coats. I have been painting for about 20 years now and paint keeps
going higher. Plan on getting at least 6 quarts of paint, if you are doing the
jams and under the hood. I used urathane enamel on mine, and the color and
reducer was $475. I remember when I could paint a car for that and make
money:( I friend of mine just had a gm product painted and he checked all over
for prices. He got quotes from $2000-$6000. I've seen what he had done and
don't think he got his moneys worth. Check out some of the jobs shops have
done. Best advertising is a happy customer. I also did a bare metal strip
myself, not the first one either, and its not fun. It is the best way to get a
good paint job if you have bad paint on right now. If the paint isn't to bad,
you may be able to get away with painting over it. There are lots of things to
consider, including what you are going to do with this car when you are done. Is
it going to be a cruiser or a show car or a driver? If a show car, expect to
pay really big $$$$ for show paint. Hope this helps some.
Gordon Racing
http://www.cardinalpaint.com and browse their site, check locations to
see if the have one in your area, then check out their High Solids
Polyurethane, it is very durable and very high gloss (don't have to use
a clear coat if you don't want. I use it on my own cars including my
race car. Jack Yealey uses it on his sprint (J.J. Yealey's father) he
seems to like it.
They can male it in just about any color that you want, just bring a
sample to match. I get a gallon of high gloss white with catalyst and
reducer for under $100.00. Also I can paint my entire races car with
less than a gallon (78 magnum) single color. Polyurethane covers very
good. They also carry powder coat if you want to do a frame-off resto.
or parts like A-arms, axles, drums, engine parts etc...
But remember painting can be tricky so practice practice practice,
and be patient...
97 Racing
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mrdancer
paint jobs. Ask them where they got their ride painted. I did this and
found a very reputable local painter who works cheap. I got the top
(pinstripes upward) of my Dakota painted for $450 and it looks great.
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John Kunkel
>
> It takes about 2 to 5 gals
> to do the job.
5 gallons? He doesn't want to paint the transporter the car came on.
John
Hemi4268
You notice I did give a range.
It 2 gals for you I am sure.
Bcuda
body shops and ask if they know someone who paints cars like yours. Most
body shops don't do work like that because they can make a lot more money
with insurance jobs. We get some work from local body men referring people
to us.
I would recommend urethane enamel for solid colors except black and base
clear for metallics. I've seen great paint jobs done with PPG, Sikkens,
Transtar, Glaserite, and even House of Color. The best chameleon paint job I
have seen was House of Color which is the cheapest paint of that type I know
of. It all depends on the painter. Everyone prefers different paints. The
price usually reflects the amount of wet sanding and buffing you want after
spraying the paint. If you want factory texture, that's the cheapest. I've
seen "perfect" paint jobs run over $10k. Remember the cheap paints are cheap
for a reason. For example PPG Omni paints are cheap and they look pretty
good but they have no additives in them for UV and stuff. This is why it has
no warranty. Hell, they wont even guarantee a color match. However, it's
good for a cheap all-over. The good PPG is pretty expensive. But it's worth
it compared to Omni.
I don't think I'd buy the paint if I were you. Anyone doing a decent
amount of painting should be able to get a better price than you for the
paint. Of course they may tack on a little but most of the price will be
labor. I can remember a friend walking out of the paint store with over
$1000 worth of stuff for his Cuda. We could have bought the same supplies
around $800.
Always look at several finished cars before you decide on a particular body
shop. Preferably, at least a few months old. Paint and primers shrink over a
couple of months.
Hope this helps,
Bob
BigDog
opinions / recommendations about painting a car black. Yes I realize that black
shows every flaw, but I really like the scheme.
Thanks BP
Pete Gruber
I took a '69 Roadrunner down to bare metal, one section at a time. I spent over
a month on the
hood alone. I have never done any real body work, so I learned as I went.
My mentors were:
A couple of guys at the local Maaco who were kind enough to tutor me
every few weeks during their lunch.
The paint shop guys at Painters Supply in Phoenix (PPG)
The internet and the Mopar webring
Cost is impossible to pin down because it depends on quality. I block sanded
endlessly. I even made
body repairs - lower quarter panels replaced, door post, etc. I counted 41 door
dings, and mechanic
elbow dimples on the top fenders. I pulled the windshield, took out the dash
and painted it. The entire
interior was painted, Dynamatted (heat and soundproofing), and rewired 31 years
of poorly designed
electrical and instrument wiring.
The Harbor Freight people loved to see me come by. They have the best prices on
sand blasters, D/A sanders
and other air tools you will need. A compressor is a must.
The final painting was done by some pro's in Sun City using RM base coat/clear
coat. We then wet sanded it to
perfection the following day. They told me I ended up with a $10,000.00 paint
job. Cost of paint and their labor
was around $1,800 which included some minor body work I overlooked.
I firmly believe you gotta drive these thisngs to get the full pleasure. It
bothers me I get an occasional rock chipping
at the paint, but the sheer joy of driving offsets it.
Take your time....keep it on the road while you're doing it...and don't settle
for second best!
Good luck,
Pete Gruber
Barry A. Lee
Pete Gruber wrote:
I did what you are planning all of 2000.
I took a '69 Roadrunner down to bare metal, one section at a time. I spent over
a month on the
hood alone. I have never done any real body work, so I learned as I went.
My mentors were:
A couple of guys at the local Maaco who were kind enough to tutor me
every few weeks during their lunch.
The paint shop guys at Painters Supply in Phoenix (PPG)
The internet and the Mopar webring
Cost is impossible to pin down because it depends on quality. I block sanded
endlessly. I even made
body repairs - lower quarter panels replaced, door post, etc. I counted 41 door
dings, and mechanic
elbow dimples on the top fenders. I pulled the windshield, took out the dash
and painted it. The entire
interior was painted, Dynamatted (heat and soundproofing), and rewired 31 years
of poorly designed
electrical and instrument wiring.
The Harbor Freight people loved to see me come by. They have the best prices on
sand blasters, D/A sanders
and other air tools you will need. A compressor is a must.
The final painting was done by some pro's in Sun City using RM base coat/clear
coat. We then wet sanded it to
perfection the following day. They told me I ended up with a $10,000.00 Larry says thier $100,000 paint
job. Cost of paint and their labor
was around $1,800 Larry's math this must be $18,000 which included some minor body work I overlooked.
I firmly believe you gotta drive these thisngs to get the full pleasure. It
bothers me I get an occasional rock chipping
at the paint, but the sheer joy of driving offsets it.
Christ drive it except to concourse shows Larry will shit!!!!
Hemi4268
Hey I drove my 71 Challenger to the SME show. I was not the one that shit.
Although, my wife says I got some very dirty looks form the guys with the
$100000 show cars in their $200000 NASCAR type trailers. Christ, they were the
ones that shit and they had a two holer in that trailer to do it in.
Larry
Barry A. Lee
Barry A. Lee
Hemi4268
Well let me tell you. I have driven my Challenger so much I have worn out the
5 year old drivers seat.
Right now I am having a big fight with Legionary trying to get the seat fixed.
They say tough shit. I offered to pay but they say no deal just buy a new set
of seats, they don't last forever.
Larry
RedNeck TookOver Hell
>Right now I am having a big fight with Legionary
Is that the "American Legionary"?????
God, Guns, Mopars, Sex & Rock & Roll!!!