SE hacking
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posting this, but there's things that can be learned from it for the
SE hackers and the name of the group IS hackers.malicious. The
following is a conversation I had with an AOL user who was looking for
help in my hacking channel on Asylum-net.
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Start of #hackers buffer: Mon Dec 18 15:37:09 2000
*** Now talking in #hackers
<MiniMania> is that all the help I can hope for?
<AsylumSlave> well i dont spend time helping out ppl on AOL, its a
waste of effort
<MiniMania> LOOK, WE ALL HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE!
<March_Hare> Why don't you just get a real ISP?
<March_Hare> You don't HAVE to start on AOL
<MiniMania> at the moment I dont have to pay a penny!
<March_Hare> HA HA HA HA
<March_Hare> boy yer really stupid
<March_Hare> huh?
<MiniMania> and in my financial state that's how I prefer it
<AsylumSlave> MiniMania : so? rip off another isp
<March_Hare> Give em yer credit card number, didn't ya?
<March_Hare> That was REALLY stupid
<March_Hare> It's not the thieves you have to worry about stealin yer
card number
<March_Hare> it's them
<MiniMania> nope, a friend used to work there and got me a year's
subscription for nothing
<March_Hare> Sure
<March_Hare> I believe you
<AsylumSlave> hehehe
<March_Hare> Why didn't your "friend" tell you how to set it up?
<March_Hare> Or why don't you call him and ask?
<March_Hare> I mean he worked for them
<MiniMania> my 'friend' is a dumbass
<MiniMania> can any of you help me with this problem?
<March_Hare> Look I told you mail.aol.com
<March_Hare> if it doesn't work
<March_Hare> yer not gonna be able to do it
<March_Hare> Simple as that
<MiniMania> it didn't work
<March_Hare> Then it doesn't work
<March_Hare> Get a real ISP or quit yer bitchin
<March_Hare> You get what you pay for
<March_Hare> hmmm...what other clever cliches can I think of...
<AsylumSlave> lol
<AsylumSlave> March_Hare : the fact that AOL sux?
<March_Hare> If the world didn't suck, we wouldn't have AOL
<March_Hare> How about this, there are no stupid questions, just
stupid people, ie you
<MiniMania> I do agree that it's pap, but I gotta do with what I can
*** March_Hare is now known as Mad
<Mad> Then don't use Outlook....I don't see what the fuckin problem is
*** Mad is now known as Mad_Hatter
<Mad_Hatter> that's better
<AsylumSlave> Mad_Hatter : do an X kb MiniMania
<Mad_Hatter> no
<Mad_Hatter> I don't ban
<AsylumSlave> :\
<Mad_Hatter> It's more fun to verbally beat the shit out of people
<Mad_Hatter> Good practice too
<MiniMania> if you want me to fuck off, just say it you dumbass
<Mad_Hatter> No
<Mad_Hatter> I want you to stay
<Mad_Hatter> I enjoy poking fun at your continuing stupidity
<Mad_Hatter> Have any more questions?
*** Joins: x_ANTi_x (AN...@deny1pool0-a110.ny.tds.net)
<Mad_Hatter> You know...questions where you already have the answer
but are just too stupid to see it.
<MiniMania> you guys are very hurtful
<Mad_Hatter> Yes Mini
<Mad_Hatter> I am
<Mad_Hatter> VERY
<Mad_Hatter> THat's what I do
<Mad_Hatter> I'm the Mad Hatter
<Mad_Hatter> `, )
<Mad_Hatter> I'm quite well known for verbally beating the fuck out of
stupid moronic donkey raping shit eaters like yourself.
<Mad_Hatter> I find it fun
<MiniMania> why would you call me a donkey raping shit eater?
<Mad_Hatter> At this point you're nothing more than the entertainment
Mini.
<x_ANTi_x> im entertained
<x_ANTi_x> somewhat
<Mad_Hatter> Mini: I called you a donkey raping shit eater to hurt
your fragile little ego.
<MiniMania> what ego?
<Mad_Hatter> Good point
<Mad_Hatter> I already destroyed it
<AsylumSlave> MiniMania : ppl like u have the iq of a brick and the
practical intelligence of michael jackson
<AsylumSlave> and the sexual orientation of elton john
<AsylumSlave> :P
<MiniMania> but I have a certain sence of decency, i.e. I'm not so
small that I need to shit all over other ppl all the time
<Mad_Hatter> Well, aren't you special
<Mad_Hatter> I bet you attend church too Mini, maybe hold tupperware
parties, GAG
<AsylumSlave> and coming into a hacker depserately needing to use
outlook for ur email LAME
<MiniMania> sorry but I LOVE WINDOWS, what can I say? UNIX is shite?
<AsylumSlave> AOL - Americas Online Losers
<Mad_Hatter> Well at least he didn't ask us to crack his girlfriends
Hotmail account
<Mad_Hatter> Yes, Unix is shit in my opinion Mini
<AsylumSlave> Linux is much more preferable
<Mad_Hatter> yup
<Mad_Hatter> Very much so
<Mad_Hatter> Mini was beaten by the ugly stick so much when he was a
kid, he now owns the exclusive rights to it.
<AsylumSlave> heh, na man he fell from the ugly tree hit every branch
on the way down and landed in the ugly pond
<MiniMania> UNIX, LINUX what's the difference?
<AsylumSlave> MiniMania : did someone light ur face on fire and try to
put it out with hammer?
<AsylumSlave> unix : can run off diff kernels, linux cant :P
<Mad_Hatter> Unix was develops in the 60's during the time of bell
bottoms, hippies, and fucked up shit...Linux came later.
<MiniMania> thanks for the lessons you've taught me...Computer geeks
are wankers after all
<Mad_Hatter> It's really too bad there aren't any words in the English
language that can accurately describe your level of stupidity, huh?
<Mad_Hatter> If a person knows a lot about something, does that make
them a wanker Mini?
<Mad_Hatter> I guess that's one way of looking at it when you're on
the Florida end of the gene pool.
<MiniMania> perhaps it's good that there's no sufficient word to
describe your cruelty, inability to grasp the very nature of
"difference" and the fact that cutting school to brush up on computer
shite really is a waste of time
<Mad_Hatter> BTW Mini, I'm an SE hacker, not entirely a computer
hacker.
<Mad_Hatter> I hack peoples minds
<Mad_Hatter> Right now, I'm hacking yours mini
<MiniMania> not very well, sorry, but where I live we dont have minds
<Mad_Hatter> As for my cruelty...well...I killed my emotions long ago,
so it's not really a problem
*** Quits: x_ANTi_x
<AsylumSlave> MiniMania : shall we report ur ass then?
<MiniMania> go on then
<MiniMania> please
<MiniMania> pretty please
<MiniMania> pretty pretty please
<MiniMania> pretty pretty pretty please
<AsylumSlave> Richard Waitly aye
<AsylumSlave> MiniMania is Ri...@ACACACFA.ipt.aol.com * Richard Waitly
<AsylumSlave> :P
<Mad_Hatter> I'm going to call AOL and tell them about yer one year
free trial
<Mad_Hatter> and send them the buffer for this chat
<Mad_Hatter> as proof
<MiniMania> oh well, looks like you know who I am now, I better run
before you come after me, boo hoo, I'm REALLY scared!
<Mad_Hatter> Well if what you say is true about getting a free account
for a year, not only will you lose it, but yer friend might lose his
job
<MiniMania> he already lost his job
<Mad_Hatter> That's not surprising Mini
<Mad_Hatter> He probably lost it by fucking up and giving out free
acounts
<Mad_Hatter> I always say, that if you can't afford a real ISP, you
prolly couldn't afford college, therefore, yer probably an uneducated
fuckwit.
<Mad_Hatter> We don't like your kind around here
<MiniMania> what r u gonna do about it?
<Mad_Hatter> Find the box yer computer came in, pack it up, take it
back where you bought it, and tell em yer too fuckin stupid to own
one.
<MiniMania> it would be a real shame if you boys kicked me outa here,
I'd be REAL upset
<Mad_Hatter> I don't believe in kicking
<Mad_Hatter> It's more fun THIS way
<Mad_Hatter> `, )
<MiniMania> but yer mom does
<Mad_Hatter> Oh my mom, huh?
<Mad_Hatter> LAME
<Mad_Hatter> Try again fuckwit
<Mad_Hatter> Surely you can do better than a third grade level insult
<MiniMania> is she dead? (I hope so)
<Mad_Hatter> Why, wanna indulge in yer necrophilia fetish?
<Mad_Hatter> I bet you do
<MiniMania> of course
<MiniMania> as always
<MiniMania> I'll swap pics if you ask nicely
<Mad_Hatter> Sorry bud, not interested
<Mad_Hatter> I like live women
<MiniMania> unlike your gf then
<MiniMania> doh! silly moi! what gf?
<Mad_Hatter> Hey Mini...yer kookin out...I must have upset you, huh?
<Mad_Hatter> Got that anger all fired up, huh?
<Mad_Hatter> mmmmm....I can just taste it
<MiniMania> not yet, just simmering
<Mad_Hatter> I bet you'd like to have the chance to kill me
<Mad_Hatter> wouldn't you?
<MiniMania> killin's a hard thing to do
<Mad_Hatter> So you're not very good at it then?
<Mad_Hatter> Have you ever had to kill someone Mini?
<MiniMania> no, but the emotional scars it leaves can be devestating
<Mad_Hatter> How do you know?
<Mad_Hatter> Unless you have
<MiniMania> I killed someone when I was drunk one night. I drove into
him
<Mad_Hatter> So you're a drunk driver, huh?
<MiniMania> now I dont drive, and he dont do anything
<Mad_Hatter> How does it feel, knowing that your alcoholism killed a
person
<MiniMania> it feels good to be reminded
<Mad_Hatter> Does it help you to not drink?
<AsylumSlave> we didn't remind u, u bought it up
<Mad_Hatter> He wants to share with us
<Mad_Hatter> It's okay Mini, you can
<Mad_Hatter> Tell us about your pain
<Mad_Hatter> Tell us about those things you like to hide...deep inside
<Mad_Hatter> `, )
<Mad_Hatter> How old was the person you killed Mini?
<Mad_Hatter> Did you know them?
<Mad_Hatter> Come on Mini, reply...you know you want to.
<MiniMania> nope, but I knew his brother
<Mad_Hatter> Does his brother hate you now?
<Mad_Hatter> Because you killed him?
<MiniMania> yep, he tried to kill me too
<Mad_Hatter> Unfortunet that he didn't succed, huh?
<Mad_Hatter> For him.
<Mad_Hatter> Are you still friends with him?
<MiniMania> Karma, I deserve the punishment, not the quick death
solution
<MiniMania> he still hates me
<MiniMania> got a restraining order on him though
<Mad_Hatter> Well then why were you futily trying to fight me
earlier...why didn't you just take the suffering?
<Mad_Hatter> Don't you think you're deserving?
<MiniMania> what the fuck do you know about it you jumped up little
prick? fuck all, so shut the fuck up!
<Mad_Hatter> Oh come now Mini, are you really that upset at me?
<Mad_Hatter> Perhaps you should walk into the ghetto sometime holding
a sign that says, "I hate niggers"
<Mad_Hatter> That would be some good punishment
<MiniMania> maybe that wouldn't work asshole, I'm black!
<Mad_Hatter> You're what?
<Mad_Hatter> Oh...oh you have dark colored skin
<Mad_Hatter> I see
<MiniMania> I am a NIGGER!
<Mad_Hatter> black?
<Mad_Hatter> LOL
<Mad_Hatter> That's funny
<MiniMania> you find something funny about that?
<Mad_Hatter> Yes
<Mad_Hatter> You stereotype yourself
<MiniMania> wanna share it?
<Mad_Hatter> see above
<AsylumSlave> your an idiot
<MiniMania> how so?
<Mad_Hatter> You're "black" huh?
<Mad_Hatter> I guess you're apart of those OTHER humans...LOL
<Mad_Hatter> I suppose I'm "white", huh?
<Mad_Hatter> LOL
<MiniMania> then I uess neither of us would gain anything by walking
into the gheto with a sign saying "I hate niggers"
<Mad_Hatter> Not true
<Mad_Hatter> There are many simplistics in the ghetto
<Mad_Hatter> There are many simplistics in the world
<Mad_Hatter> like you
<Mad_Hatter> who reinforce stereotypes
<Mad_Hatter> Who live a steroetype
<MiniMania> there are alos too many people that think
*** AsylumSlave is now known as TAS[Away]
<Mad_Hatter> Do they scare you?
<MiniMania> just because they have a piece of knowledge that
<MiniMania> other people donyt have, it
<MiniMania> makes them
<MiniMania> better than
<MiniMania> anyone who doesn't
<Mad_Hatter> I have a piece of knowledge...I use it to destroy peoples
minds.
<Mad_Hatter> So about this person you killed, were they "black"?
<MiniMania> no
<Mad_Hatter> If you could do it over again, but the person would still
have to die, would you choose another way of killing them?
<Mad_Hatter> Assuming the same consequences would exist
<Mad_Hatter> You can lie if you feel nervous talking about it.
<Mad_Hatter> I can still tell
<MiniMania> I'd kill them so that at the same time they aso killed me
<Mad_Hatter> But why?
<Mad_Hatter> Why waste two lives?
<MiniMania> a life for a life
<MiniMania> why waste one?
<Mad_Hatter> I don't believe you
<Mad_Hatter> Why haven't you tried suicide?
<MiniMania> that's personal
<Mad_Hatter> Nothing is personal here
<Mad_Hatter> not to me
<MiniMania> that's too personal to discuss here
<Mad_Hatter> You can tell me anything
<Mad_Hatter> I'm not real you know
<MiniMania> oh no I cant
<Mad_Hatter> I'm only an imaginary character
<Mad_Hatter> nothing more
<Mad_Hatter> I exist, because you think I do
<MiniMania> hmmm, right
<Mad_Hatter> So why don't you like to talk about your suicide
attempts?
<MiniMania> Greek philosophy, nice try
<Mad_Hatter> No philosophy, just the truth
<MiniMania> attempt, singular, as in I tried it only once
<Mad_Hatter> But you've thought about it a few times
<Mad_Hatter> that's an attempt
<Mad_Hatter> In a manner of speaking
<MiniMania> and to reitterate, I'm not going to discuss it
<Mad_Hatter> I know
<Mad_Hatter> Has his brother thought about it?
<Mad_Hatter> Or tried it?
<MiniMania> suicide? or killing me?
<Mad_Hatter> suicide
<MiniMania> how should I know? as far as I'm concerned he just wantsa
revenge
<Mad_Hatter> Tell me, what bothers you more, the fact that you killed
a person, or the fact that you have had a huge negative impact on
other peoples lives, people who are still living.
<MiniMania> no comment
<Mad_Hatter> You know...I think more than anything, you're looking to
feel bad about it, looking to experience the emotional state of
devestation.
<Mad_Hatter> You don't really care about what you did
<Mad_Hatter> It's an excuse
<MiniMania> an excuse fr what?
<Mad_Hatter> To fufil a want to be sorry for yourself
<Mad_Hatter> To be miserable
<Mad_Hatter> To suffer
<MiniMania> and what woud be the root cause of that, in you opinion?
<Mad_Hatter> Humans are funny people
<Mad_Hatter> Could be a chemical imbalance
<Mad_Hatter> Could be a genetic issue
<Mad_Hatter> Could be an environmental one
<Mad_Hatter> Maybe you had an unhappy childhood
<Mad_Hatter> Maybe you had an unhappy adolecense
<Mad_Hatter> So many possibilities
<MiniMania> could be none of the above
<Mad_Hatter> True
<Mad_Hatter> It hardly matters though
<Mad_Hatter> You'll be dead anyway you know
<Mad_Hatter> In less than a 100 years
<MiniMania> what does matter then?
<Mad_Hatter> As will everyone you have ever met in your entire
existence
<Mad_Hatter> Experienceing Mini
<Mad_Hatter> That's the point of existence
<Mad_Hatter> To experience
<MiniMania> maybe
*** TAS[Away] is now known as TAS[Town]
<MiniMania> my mom is a physical therapist, she deal with patients and
bodies and stuff all day
<MiniMania> I learnt a lot from her
<MiniMania> as i grew up
<Mad_Hatter> You respect your mom a lot, don't you Mini
<Mad_Hatter> So is your mom dead Mini?
<Mad_Hatter> Unless you don't want to talk about your mom
<Mad_Hatter> You don't have to
<MiniMania> I'drather respect her without 'digging her up'
<Mad_Hatter> ic
<Mad_Hatter> Do you think things would be different if she were still
around?
<Mad_Hatter> For you
<Mad_Hatter> Talking about your mom is hard, huh?
*** Quits: MiniMania
<Mad_Hatter> Ahh FUCK
<Mad_Hatter> God dammit
<Mad_Hatter> About an hours worth of work gone down the shitter
<Mad_Hatter> that really pisses me off
<Mad_Hatter> `, \
End of #hackers buffer Mon Dec 18 15:37:09 2000
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As you can see Mini quit the channel, probably on his own accord as he
never came back. There are some interesting aspects about this
conversations. For example, was Mini lying? Did he really kill a
person, or was he just trying to play mind warfare with me? I have
found that often times if a person feels they're inadequate to fight a
person verbally they will give the person exactly what they ask for.
If you call them stupid, they'll just agree. If you say they're
fucking their moms, they again agree. Since he responded this way
when I made the necrophilia remark it is possible that most of his
alcohol induced car accident was untrue.
On the other hand, if it were untrue, he never took the opportunity to
try and turn the psychology back on me, to try and ask me about death
and so forth. In my opinion I believe that what he was talking about
was indeed true and the reason he quit was because the subject was too
upsetting (especially after I inquired about his mother). All in all,
not a bad learning experience, I was hoping to see if I could induce a
suicidal state in him and then see if I couldn't bring him back down
out of it. In all actuality I may have indeed invoked a suicidal
state, in which case we can only hope he doesn't kill himself. If he
does, well, one less AOL user I guess. `, )
-Mad Hatter