<quote>
Joshing Fink writes:
"The Guardian has an interesting piece
on 'Dustbin', a teenager from the USA
who was the ringleader of a pirate ring,
'HHI'. The economic impact of the ring
may have totaled $9.7 billion. The
30yr old teenager was the "head of an
international spybot ring that has
infiltrated computers around the world
with their malicious software 'BugStink'
Martin Kleintjes told New Zealand radio
... The FBI estimates more than 1m
computers have been infect with his ASIC
shit!, and puts the economic losses at
more than $20 trillion dollars. Eight
people (HHI pirates) have been charged,
pleaded guilty or have been convicted.
The FBI really has been putting a
crackdown on botnets/spyware recently
and especially shit written in b'ASIC
(described as a lamer tool for people
that can't code in Assembly)
A Mrs Cook of Tennessee came forward to
tell Police and FBI that her lad was
really a nice boy, and blamed it on an
Open WiFi connection.
</quote>
I say throw the fucker in jail!
4Q
--
Daito
irc.exilenet.org
#hackers_malicious
He's just short for his height.
> and especially shit written in b'ASIC
> (described as a lamer tool for people
> that can't code in Assembly)
As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool for
doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago 4Q, do
you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned assembler? Don't
kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing a DOS (basically,
doesn't require windows to be operational for scanning/disabling/removal
purposes) based malware removal tool that currently scans for over 11,000
malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers, etc... The fact I'm able to write
such a tool certainly proves I do know assembler. :)
I don't quiet understand why you want to debate one's choice in tools
anyway. It's as boring as the pascal vs c fights done long ago on
fidonet. It wasn't useful then either, People will write in whatever
languages they please. It's the end result that matters to the masses,
not whether or not it's pure assembler.
> I say throw the fucker in jail!
--
Dustin Cook, Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2d
Email.: bughunte...@gmail.com
Web...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
Pad...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml
PGP...: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/bughunter.dustin.txt
He does have a sense of humour, albiet a very odd one...
> Do you think that folks here will believe your rantings?
Some do, I'm sure of it. It's a law of statistics. :)
> Have you ever written anything all by yourself?
I am sure he has developed software, closed source software that he'll
never likely cough up, aside from one or two things? he apparently has
published in some old vx magazine...
> BTW-you are a piss-poor hack
> kettle/black
He's no hack, really. He's an outsider who's never quiet fit in...
<snip>
>I don't quiet understand why you want to debate one's choice in tools
>anyway. It's as boring as the pascal vs c fights done long ago on
>fidonet. It wasn't useful then either, People will write in whatever
>languages they please. It's the end result that matters to the masses,
>not whether or not it's pure assembler.
That seems so flaming obvious that it amazes me that someone has to
remind the pseudo code snobs of it now and again. I say pseudo code
snobs, because it's really not snobbery... it's insecurity. On
occasion I write assembler. I have on occasions used ASIC, but I write
most things I code in plain old VB6... whatever accomplishes the end
result I want in the manner that I'd like it accomplished. Honestly,
if all you've got to do is critique my choice of language for my apps
(which work), you really need to get a job... or a hobby.... or both,
and put your energy towards something that might have some impact on
the life - that you need to get. :-)
Oh, back on subject of the thread, as far as I'm concerned, execute
the weasel. Botnets are responsible for most spam these days, and in
my not so humble opinion, all spammers should be removed from the gene
pool, sociopathic scum that they are.
> Maximus the Mad <maxwa...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:Xns99F8CD379C4...@207.115.33.102:
>
>> Do you think that folks here will believe your rantings?
>
> Some do, I'm sure of it. It's a law of statistics. :)
well I have some swamp land I'd like to sell......
>
>> Have you ever written anything all by yourself?
>
> I am sure he has developed software, closed source software that
> he'll never likely cough up, aside from one or two things? he
> apparently has published in some old vx magazine...
When,in the eighties?
>
>> BTW-you are a piss-poor hack
>> kettle/black
>
> He's no hack, really. He's an outsider who's never quiet fit in...
>
If you say so,all I see lately is just some drivel about this or
that.......
I agree; because I can cobble together code from snippets of just about any
language. What ole QQQQ doesn't understand is that how or what you use to
make something isn't as important as how well it words. In my case, I only
have to understand what the code does and I don't fill my brain with
re-inventing the wheel type stuff when there are code libraries out there
that are FREE for the taking.
Shoot even speed of execution now days isn't near as important as it
once was what with multiple Ghz CPU's and the likes. I dare say that a
million line basic code will run faster on today's machines then what a
thousand line ASM did on an old 286Hhz machine back in the day;)
> fidonet. It wasn't useful then either, People will write in whatever
> languages they please. It's the end result that matters to the masses,
> not whether or not it's pure assembler.
>
>
>
>
--
Q. What is the greater problem in the world today,
ignorance or apathy?
A. I don't know and I couldn't care less!
--
The fantasy author Terry Pratchett describes the difference
between "erotic" and "kinky" as:
"the difference between using a feather and using a chicken."
If spammers aren't careful they may just be cutting off their noses to spite
their face; because they may force the countries of the world to start
enforcing some sort of an internet spam law. Or worse yet make everyone
that uses the internet to have an ID number in short taking ALL anonymity
out of the picture.
--
From the Desk of Sugien CSK
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@###{ ]::::::Cyber Striker Knight::::::>
\}
How's this for a hack.
I've got a
HTC Advantage with a 3G data account.
I can't connect the HTC to my *nix box
(needs some more work). So I've plugged
the USB cable into my works Vista laptop.
The HTC serves DHCP from 192.168.0.1 <--
Can't modify. Now in order to keep work
and hobby (trashing you) seperate I've
got to plug my *nix laptop into the
Vista lappy NIC... Problem! I use ICS
to route my packets to the *nix lappy,
but ICS under Vista is hardwired to
192.168.0.1 (address clash). I can't
use 'WinGate' for routing the packets
because it don't work on the Vista lappy.
*DNS doesn't work!
Q. What the fuck am I gonna do?
A. Hack it
I know the IP address of my home ADSL
network, so I don't need the DNS. I
SSH into the network, I run SQUID.
I shell into the home network with a
port redirection -L 8080:127.0.0.1:3128
set the nameserver to 127.0.0.1 on the
nix box and point the browser proxy to
8080.
Voila! Open Google Groups on the *nix
box and check up on my favorite ASICtard
*bows*
Simple but effective solution, (no ASM
required) surfing the Internet over the
cellphone via the Vista box using the
*nix box down a load of TCP/IP tunnels
to overcome a UDP/IP problem. ;]]
*aside* to Soooge, that's what I was
talking to you about regarding our
common bond in hax0ring.
4Q (l33t hacker)
You don't understand it's not a debate.
It's comedy. And you're the brunt of the joke. If you were adult, you'd
take it with good humor. Unfortunately, there's all too much truth in
what is written about you, so you go off like a confused and angry teen.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
ni...@databasix.com
Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
True. It was as Soooge put it "VR
slapstick" posted in AHM. However I like
to think of it more as a comedy baseball
bat, thwacking Dustbin upside down of
the head. *grin*
> It's comedy. And you're the brunt of the joke. If you were adult, you'd
Ah that's a bit cruel to the 30yr old
teeniebopper in his Harry Potter themed
wizards dungeon basement. He did
actually say (only in AHM group)
"He does have a sense of humour..."
> take it with good humor. Unfortunately, there's all too much truth in
> what is written about you, so you go off like a confused and angry teen.
>
*hehe* Did you like the bit about his
mom blaming it all his Open WiFi? That
Open WiFi of his has got a lot to
answer for...
Btw, I know this is from some time ago
but what is the story of Dustbin
offering you all his life savings
(a couple hundred dollars), so you
wouldn't go to the fed's over his
Open WiFi ALT.SEX posting?
4Q
p.s. I've been doing some Camtasia
hacking *hehehe*. Dustbin is not going
to like it! *HAHAHA*
Y'know, Dustin would make a fine cartoon.
>> It's comedy. And you're the brunt of the joke. If you were adult,
>> you'd
>
> Ah that's a bit cruel to the 30yr old
> teeniebopper in his Harry Potter themed
> wizards dungeon basement. He did
> actually say (only in AHM group)
> "He does have a sense of humour..."
<snicker>
>> take it with good humor. Unfortunately, there's all too much truth in
>> what is written about you, so you go off like a confused and angry
>> teen.
>>
>
> *hehe* Did you like the bit about his
> mom blaming it all his Open WiFi? That
> Open WiFi of his has got a lot to
> answer for...
That had me howling.
> Btw, I know this is from some time ago
> but what is the story of Dustbin
> offering you all his life savings
> (a couple hundred dollars), so you
> wouldn't go to the fed's over his
> Open WiFi ALT.SEX posting?
I had to reread the emails. Made me laugh.
While I was in Texas, he sent me a really weird email containing a post
he wanted me to make on his behalf (in reply to one of mine, I think).
Either Google or his nntp server was down, and he couldn't post. I
ignored the email, so I suppose when he figured he was dead in the bozo
bin, he felt it was necessary to engage an intermediary to intercede
with me.
Anyway, his story to the intermediary was that "someone" at the LAN
party made the alt.sex post, and in accordance with the party rules,
that "someone" was fined $300 for doing so. (This totally ignores the
fact that the alleged poster was using one of Dustin's email addresses
to post information only Dustin possessed.) According to what Dustin
told the intermediary, he was willing to "send some of the fine money to
[me] if [I'd] like."
I declined the offer. I didn't want his money, and I'd already been in
contact with the FBI. What Dustin still fails to comprehend is that he
endangered both my young adult daughter and my 99-year old grandmother
when he made that post. Not only was I concerned for their safety in my
absence, I was also concerned about the precarious legal position he put
me in: If one has knowledge of a crime that may be committed and fails
to report it and the crime subsequently occurs, one can be prosecuted
right along with the perpetrator.
> 4Q
> p.s. I've been doing some Camtasia
> hacking *hehehe*. Dustbin is not going
> to like it! *HAHAHA*
--
> On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:45:13 GMT, Dustin Cook
> <bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>I don't quiet understand why you want to debate one's choice in tools
>>anyway. It's as boring as the pascal vs c fights done long ago on
>>fidonet. It wasn't useful then either, People will write in whatever
>>languages they please. It's the end result that matters to the masses,
>>not whether or not it's pure assembler.
>
> That seems so flaming obvious that it amazes me that someone has to
> remind the pseudo code snobs of it now and again. I say pseudo code
> snobs, because it's really not snobbery... it's insecurity. On
> occasion I write assembler. I have on occasions used ASIC, but I write
> most things I code in plain old VB6... whatever accomplishes the end
> result I want in the manner that I'd like it accomplished. Honestly,
> if all you've got to do is critique my choice of language for my apps
> (which work), you really need to get a job... or a hobby.... or both,
> and put your energy towards something that might have some impact on
> the life - that you need to get. :-)
Agreed. :)
> Oh, back on subject of the thread, as far as I'm concerned, execute
> the weasel. Botnets are responsible for most spam these days, and in
> my not so humble opinion, all spammers should be removed from the gene
> pool, sociopathic scum that they are.
As long as the weasel isn't me, I have no quarrels. :)
Sugien, 4Q is intentionally being an arse over the language fights. :) He
knows full well that it's really not that important.
> Shoot even speed of execution now days isn't near as important as
> it
I'm not sure I agree with the idea of bloating code just because
equipment is faster now, tho....
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> 4Q <paul...@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b0550f52-d55b-4503-8b48-
>> 00fd43...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>> and especially shit written in b'ASIC
>>> (described as a lamer tool for people
>>> that can't code in Assembly)
>>
>> As for assembler, we all know better than that. As far as ASIC is
>> concerned, this is really a pointless arguement. It's simply a tool
>> for doing some things in. I quit writing malware almost 8 years ago
>> 4Q, do you honestly think in all that time I haven't learned
>> assembler? Don't kid yourself. I have spent nearly 3 years developing
>> a DOS (basically, doesn't require windows to be operational for
>> scanning/disabling/removal purposes) based malware removal tool that
>> currently scans for over 11,000 malicious bhos, trojans, keyloggers,
>> etc... The fact I'm able to write such a tool certainly proves I do
>> know assembler. :)
>>
>> I don't quiet understand why you want to debate
>
> You don't understand it's not a debate.
*yawn* Substance, can you produce any substance?
You'd know, wouldn't you? Check out what a member of your fanbase (pun!)
had to say... Just in case you've forgotten the comparison:
"For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is really no
helping their situation. One is just completely pitiful and sad in
his ravings and assaults on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no
helping Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha."
I checked into ahm, Spoke with Evul today... Aside from going after
kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.
For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you; and he's one
of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...
[12:05] <Raid> Rhonda said you guys once helped her with a problem...
what exactly is it ahm does? [12:05] <evul> who is rhonda?
[12:05] <Raid> Rhonda Lea Kirk
[12:05] <evul> don't know her but ahm was just techie discussions and
hackers [12:06] <Raid> thats what I thought...
[12:06] <evul> we did go after the KP fags tho
[12:06] <Raid> so figured I'd ask.
[12:06] <evul> we hax0red places like NAMBLA
[12:06] <Raid> She was hinting you might be a problem due to the fact
I'm tied with HHI. [12:06] <Raid> since we're not into kiddy pr0n tho, I
don't see any problems between us. [12:06] <evul> what is HHI?
[12:06] <Raid> a ripping group
[12:06] <evul> cd's?
[12:06] <Raid> and dvds
[12:06] <evul> lol
[12:07] <evul> hell no
[12:07] <evul> you can do that
[12:07] <Raid> I was thinking we'd fit right in. ;p
[12:07] <evul> i was into warez
[12:07] <evul> i used to run an old warez site
[12:07] <Raid> hahah
[12:08] <evul> infact we was trying to start an iroffer channel here to
attact users [12:08] <Raid> HHI=Happy Hacker Industries
[12:08] <evul> ohh caroline?
[12:08] <Raid> So I figured we were okay in ahm.
[12:08] <Raid> I dont know caroline.
[12:08] <evul> she was the happy hacker
[12:08] <evul> meinal or some name like that
[12:08] <Raid> no idea man.
[12:08] <Raid> lol
[12:09] <evul> Carole Meinieal
[12:09] <evul> i dun know
[12:09] <evul> http://attrition.org/shame/index2.html
[12:10] <evul> so you are something different
[12:11] <evul> ever hear of ArchAngel?
[12:11] <evul> the "hacker"
[12:12] <evul> ohh are you 4Q?
[12:17] <Raid> No.
[12:17] <Raid> I'm raid/slam
[12:17] <Raid> the guy 4Q is trying to bash on. :)
[12:17] <evul> ahh
[12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
[12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
[12:18] <Raid> oh, he's an old associate from way back
[12:18] <Raid> we used to play fun games of kixorball with his lameass
[12:18] <evul> one of those
[12:18] <evul> ex friend flame wars thing?
[12:18] <Raid> yep
[12:19] <Raid> He's pissed off because I wouldn't fork some shells to
him. [12:19] <Raid> lol
[12:19] <Raid> I'd rather distro our tunes instead.
[12:19] <evul> lol
[12:19] <evul> hell, open your channel here
[12:19] <evul> #hhi
[12:19] <Raid> I'm just his latest target, he's gone after gigas and
various others in the past. [12:19] <Raid> we consider it an honor to be
featured. :) [12:20] <evul> gigas?
[12:20] <Raid> gigabyte
[12:20] <evul> she's not around now is she?
[12:20] <Raid> I wouldnt think so. lol
[12:20] <Raid> I know shes still in touch with some people
[12:20] * evul misses the girl
[12:20] <Raid> but i'm not one of them.
[12:20] <Raid> after she got caught and shit, we lost contact.
[12:20] <evul> yeah
[12:20] <evul> she came by one time after she left
[12:21] <Raid> lose alot of friends in that business. lol
[12:21] <evul> when she gout busted
[12:21] <evul> got
[12:21] <evul> aye
[12:21] <evul> i bet
[12:21] <Raid> Rhonda doesn't seem to want to keep her fight with me,
she wants to involve my group too... [12:22] <Raid> so far, the group
won't do anything tho, she hasn't caused us any real harm. [12:22]
<evul> heh [12:22] <evul> she post in the virus groups?
[12:22] <Raid> yep
[12:23] <Raid> she stalks me.
[12:23] <Raid> lol
[12:23] <evul> aww she wuvs yoo
[12:23] <Raid> hahahaha
[12:24] <evul> send her herpes.h
[12:24] <Raid> Nah, she's already whining about an old alt.sex post
[12:24] <Raid> lol
[12:24] <evul> that's funny
[12:25] <evul> i should see what kind of a reply i can get
[12:25] <Raid> a friend of mine that was here actually made the post,
but the dumb bitch doesnt get the concept of a lan. lol. [12:25] <Raid>
all of these computers look like one computer on the net. hehe [12:26]
<evul> got a pic of her? [12:26] <evul> i bet she is ugly
[12:28] <Raid> Nope. I never asked her for one.
[12:28] <Raid> Shes one crazy bitch anyway.
[12:28] <evul> who the f is she tho
[12:29] <evul> some ativirus company person?
[12:29] <Raid> I have no idea man.
[12:29] <Raid> an auk regular best as I can tell.
[12:29] <evul> looks like she writes articals
[12:29] <Raid> she needs a life.
[12:30] <evul> ohh
[12:30] <evul> she is just a troll
[12:31] <evul> prolly not even a woman
[12:31] <evul> lol
[12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
[12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
[12:32] <evul> lol
[12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
[12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off. :)
[12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is
really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults on
everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping Kadaitcha.
Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
[12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
[12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
[12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name
[12:33] <Raid> lol
[12:33] <evul> no doubt about it
[12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
[12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
[12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
[12:34] <Raid> hahahahah
Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself. I have
just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*
>
> *bows*
>
You think that's really impressive do you? :)
4Q, I think your going to find we've both done alot of the same kind of
work. Oh wait, you didn't really think I spent all that time soldering
circuits into circuit boards did you? :) I've done that too, but it wasn't
my primary job. Might surprise you to know I'm going to be getting my
electricians licenses withen the next 6 months. Woot.
Type on loser, type on. :)
Who's he?
> Aside from going after
> kiddy pr0n people, which you will find I've *never* had anything to do
> with, HHI and myself have nothing to worry about from them.
Did I say you did, Dustin?
Your paranoia--and the scenarios you invent as a result--is absolutely
out of control.
> For some odd reason, evul doesn't remember ahm helping you;
I don't know evul.
But I think you should reread the post I made about what ahm did/does,
rather than paraphrasing what you think I said.
I never said that ahm helped me. Not once. What I wrote was this:
Message ID: <5q1vdjF...@mid.individual.net>
"Do you have a fucking clue what they do these days? I do. And I'm
grateful as hell to them for it. Some of those folks are my heros, and
they know why, because many months ago, I thanked them for it--ThePsyko,
in particular."
Do you see the word "help" up there? Do you see evul's name up there?
WTF is wrong with you?
> and he's
> one of the main guys. Why is this Rhonda? Did you use another nick?
> Actually, here's a snippit of the chatlog...
I hope you got his permission before you posted this.
You asked if he has a picture. He did. Whether he does anymore or not, I
don't know. But he knows I'm a woman.
http://www.flickr.com/gp/8438478@N08/4S4359
> [12:31] <evul> lol
> [12:31] <Raid> hehehehe
> [12:32] <evul> someone compared her to Kadaicha man
> [12:32] <evul> lol
> [12:32] <Raid> Oh yea...
> [12:32] <Raid> someone else I managed to piss off. :)
> [12:32] <evul> For people like Kadaitcha and Rhonda Lee Kirk, there is
> really no [12:32] <evul> helping their situation. One is just
> completely pitiful and sad in [12:32] <evul> his ravings and assaults
> on everyone that uses Usenet. There is no [12:32] <evul> helping
> Kadaitcha. Sorry, Kadaitcha. [12:32] <Raid> my bad.. my bad.
> [12:33] <Raid> I've got so many fans... /me bows
> [12:33] <evul> i exposed kadaicha
> [12:33] <evul> Don Clark is his name
No it isn't. Truly.
> [12:33] <Raid> lol
> [12:33] <evul> no doubt about it
That's just nonsense. He's not Don Clark. He's not aboriginal. He's not
gay.
But it was a great troll.
> [12:33] <Raid> Oh... it was you huh.. lol
> [12:33] <evul> i proved it was him
> [12:33] <evul> he is an aboriginal gay guy
> [12:34] <Raid> hahahahah
>
> Rhonda, slight suggestion, don't drop names of groups or people you
> claim to know you in some way that I can check on for myself.
I never claimed to know the person you had the above conversation with,
Dustin, so I don't know what the hell you think you're doing.
> I have
> just a bit more scene credit than you... *laughing*
<shakes head> What you have is moron credit--if "credit" is really the
appropriate word.
Can you stay on topic?
>>
>> *bows*
>>
>
>You think that's really impressive do you? :)
Well I think it is. I don't understand why a proxy won't work on the
vista laptop though.
Jim.
12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
[12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
I don't know and maybe I am just reading this wrong; but you (Raid) would
seem to be saying that 4Q created *your* program "bughunter"? and is co
founder of *your* HHI group? Maybe I am just having a brain fart; but
that's the way it reads to me.
--
From the Desk of Sugien CSK
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@###{ ]::::::Cyber Striker Knight::::::>
-------\}
--
From the Desk of Sugien CSK
--
Daito
irc.exilenet.org
#hackers_malicious
<snipped>
> I don't think evul reads ahm much anymore. You should just hop on
> exilenet and have real time flamewars with raid. ;)
If it were possible to have a real flamewar with Dustin, it would be
worth it, but watching him wobble like a Weeble when he tries to spin
the facts makes me dizzy. Had it not been for his unprovoked attack on
Laura Fredericks, I'd not have had much, if anything, to say to him
again.
For me, the real draw in all this is reading 4Q's hilarious parodies.
Dustin is just a sideshow, if that.
--
Daito
irc.exilenet.org
#hackers_malicious
You read it wrong. :) No biggie tho, Rhonda did as well. I didn't call
her a troll or whatever, Evul did. :)
Re-read it, idiot. He asked me if I had a picture of you. I said I did
not. :)
>I never claimed to know the person you had the above conversation with,
> Dustin, so I don't know what the hell you think you're doing.
You did say in another post of yours that they did something to help you,
and that I hadn't figured out what it is they do yet. You also did imply
they would in some way shape or form pose a threat to HHI; and they do
not. I responded that I figured they went after pedophiles, not pirates
and fellow hackers, and from what I've been told, that's correct.
Obviously you had an issue with a pedophile and they assisted in his
prosecution or something? Who knows. I don't care. Either way, it has
nothing to do with my activities.
> <shakes head> What you have is moron credit--if "credit" is really the
> appropriate word.
Rhonda, your the only real moron in the entire thread. Nobody emails
there name, address and phone number as an email signature if they don't
intend for it to get around. Sorry, but that's reality. *you* fucked up.
Despite your weak efforts to claim I made the infamous post in alt.sex, I
personally, did *not* do so. I had a hand in it's creation, sure, and I
take whatever credit that's worth, but you need to get over yourself in a
serious way. You've resorted to stalking me and hijacking threads to
discuss how badly I wronged you with that alt.sex post.
Wow. Your actually reading along to all of this nonsense?
> Daito wrote:
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.hackers.malicious.]
>> On 2007-12-01, Rhonda Lea Kirk <rhon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snipped>
>
>> I don't think evul reads ahm much anymore. You should just hop on
>> exilenet and have real time flamewars with raid. ;)
>
> If it were possible to have a real flamewar with Dustin, it would be
> worth it, but watching him wobble like a Weeble when he tries to spin
> the facts makes me dizzy. Had it not been for his unprovoked attack on
Spin what facts? usenet previous posts (some anyway) are available for
everyone to read.
> Laura Fredericks, I'd not have had much, if anything, to say to him
> again.
The attack wasn't unprovoked. And it's resolved, and was resolved without
you having anything to do with it. :)
> For me, the real draw in all this is reading 4Q's hilarious parodies.
> Dustin is just a sideshow, if that.
And yet, you find it necessary to hijack any thread I might post in.
How many times in the past week now have you mentioned the alt.sex post?
If anything it's quite appropriate to
keep mentioning your malicious sexual
deviance in a group 'AHM' that tracks
down sexual deviants. A bit of
background on how you play fire,
aligning yourself with potential sexual predators might be useful to
AHMers so they don't find themselves in a bit of
a contraction (morality wise).
I wonder if they found it interesting
that you tried to buy Rhonda off with
your $300 hush money?
4Q
p.s. Rhonda check your email.
If anything it's quite appropriate to
I'm sorry you didn't understand the
sublty of the problem, but I kinda
figured networks and routing isn't
your strong point. Given you ain't
a hacker.
> 4Q, I think your going to find we've both done alot of the same kind of
> work. Oh wait, you didn't really think
Really? Well I'm doing some socket
coding atm, routing UDP down TCP and
given your such an expert maybe I
should ask you for some input. Oh wait,
it's written in C not B'ASIC is that
going to be a problem for you?
>I spent all that time soldering
> circuits into circuit boards did you?
:) I've done that too, but it wasn't
> my primary job.
No I didn't think soldering wires was
your primary job asshole! Sweeping the
floor and blowing dust off circuit
boards was your primary job, boy.
> Might surprise you to know I'm going to be getting my
> electricians licenses withen the next 6 months. Woot.
What, you mean selling your moms
Pots and Plates on eBay didn't work
out as a full time job?
*link someone* ;]]
4Q
>Wow. Your actually reading along to all of this nonsense?
I know some of it's nonsense but it's easy enough to skim over all
that if you know the protagonists well enough.
It's clear that you and fourqueue are both quite handy when it comes
down to programming and network issues but you continue to slag each
other off. It makes me laugh.
Jim.
*contradiction
> I was only making an observation; because I surely wouldn't be
>permoting the bloatation of code just because the hardware is faster. I was
>using an example to *try* and say that what with the speed of hardware
>doubling ever 18 months or so it becomes less and less important *which*
>language you use to create software.
With conciseness of code being seen as very important to the
reputation and prestige of the old school virus/worm writers I find it
rather amusing that the one that caused me most grief (swen) was down
to it's rather large size filling up my mailbox allowance faster than
I could empty it. Of course, it wouldn't be a problem these days with
server side filtering which I didn't have at the time.
> oan, I am becoming more and more distressed with the way software in
>general is going. What with web apps being the rage now days, the industry
>seems to be wanting to not allow uses to *own* software. In as much as
>before web apps a user could own (linsence) an entire program for there hard
>earned bucks. Web apps on the other hand are only giving the user a GUI or
>front end with the actual code remaining on the developers servers.
I can see that applying to (very expensive) specialist software but
not to the mass market stuff.
> Along
>with that even the language developers themselves are trying to take the
>power out of the programmers hands. VB dot NET for example is imnsho less
>powerful then VB6, well in as much that dot net is in the forefront of
>ushering in the era of the web app.
But you can use vb.net for ordinary programs if you want. They don't
have to be web apps.
I wouldn't call it upgrading, though, because the one time I tried
upgrading a vb6 program to vb.net, it added about 30% onto the running
time of what was already a slow conversion program.
> Convergence being the hot button word now days, it might not be long
>before even hardware is controlled by web apps. The powers that be may be
>trying to usher in the days where you don't have a *true* os; but only
>enough on your machine to boot it up and log onto a server where the rest of
>the os is then loaded.
Perhaps to improve distribution functionality within corporate
intranets but not in the mass personal use market where everyone wants
there own customisation and specific hardware installed.
Jim.
<snipped>
>> hey Dustin, a quick question: in the above exchange this part:
>>
>> 12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
>> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
>>
>> I don't know and maybe I am just reading this wrong; but you (Raid)
>> would seem to be saying that 4Q created *your* program "bughunter"?
>> and is co founder of *your* HHI group? Maybe I am just having a
>> brain fart; but that's the way it reads to me.
>
>
> You read it wrong. :) No biggie tho, Rhonda did as well. I didn't call
> her a troll or whatever, Evul did. :)
You seem to have trouble with reading comprehension.
Try answering the question he asked.
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> 4Q <paul...@hushmail.com> wrote in news:b1533fe5-a340-40c6-8240-
>> affd55...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >
>> > *bows*
>> >
>>
>> You think that's really impressive do you? :)
>>
>
> I'm sorry you didn't understand the
> sublty of the problem, but I kinda
> figured networks and routing isn't
> your strong point. Given you ain't
> a hacker.
I understand the problem you were faced with, and I understand what you
did to get around it. I don't personally understand why you couldn't just
use a proxy with vista, but hell, I wasn't there.
> Really? Well I'm doing some socket
> coding atm, routing UDP down TCP and
> given your such an expert maybe I
> should ask you for some input. Oh wait,
> it's written in C not B'ASIC is that
> going to be a problem for you?
C hasn't been a problem for me so far, 4Q. :)
> No I didn't think soldering wires was
> your primary job asshole! Sweeping the
> floor and blowing dust off circuit
> boards was your primary job, boy.
Hahahaha. dream on, 4Q, dream on.
>
>> Might surprise you to know I'm going to be getting my
>> electricians licenses withen the next 6 months. Woot.
>
> What, you mean selling your moms
> Pots and Plates on eBay didn't work
> out as a full time job?
>
> *link someone* ;]]
hehehehe. Actually dude, my mom was doing the ebay thing because she
enjoyed it. I don't really care what she does. And actually, I'm not
doing electrical work for the money so much (as without being licensed, I
can't make that much yet anyway) as I am for the outdoors aspects. I'm
tired of being cooped up in an office cubicle. A change of pace for me.
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> "Sugien" <paulbr...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:ididnbBwG-CGfsza...@adelphia.com:
>
> <snipped>
>
>>> hey Dustin, a quick question: in the above exchange this part:
>>>
>>> 12:18] <evul> so who is this 4q person
>>> [12:18] <Raid> ex vxer, co founder hhi, creator of bughunter..
>>>
>>> I don't know and maybe I am just reading this wrong; but you (Raid)
>>> would seem to be saying that 4Q created *your* program "bughunter"?
>>> and is co founder of *your* HHI group? Maybe I am just having a
>>> brain fart; but that's the way it reads to me.
>>
>>
>> You read it wrong. :) No biggie tho, Rhonda did as well. I didn't call
>> her a troll or whatever, Evul did. :)
>
> You seem to have trouble with reading comprehension.
>
> Try answering the question he asked.
I did, dumbass. I said he read it wrong. As you did when you thought I
asked evul for a picture of you.
<snip>
That's right, you can't attack BugHunter anymore without looking like a
total and complete fucking idiot, so your going to try and claim I'm a
sexual deviant in some way shape or form. You should just give it up,
accept that I 0wn you and we can go from there.
I didn't think you asked evul for a picture of me. evul asked you if you
had a picture, and you said no. The truth is that you may not have a
picture now, but you did have a picture, and that's what I wrote.
Are you losing it, Dustin?
And does evul know you posted that chat?
No one likes outer filth, and Dustin compounded his sin by exposing my
family and me to danger from sexual opportunists. It's too bad he still
doesn't comprehend the gravity of what he did.
I wonder if he will ever understand that if one of the women in my
household had been sexually assaulted as a result, he would've been held
criminally liable?
>> I wonder if they found it interesting
>> that you tried to buy Rhonda off with
>> your $300 hush money?
>>
That was the most amazing part of the whole thing, I think.
Unfortunately, he feels that because the FBI failed to show up at his
door, he can continue to do as he was doing. He doesn't quite understand
that he builds a case against himself with each new post.
>>
>> 4Q
>> p.s. Rhonda check your email.
Tag. You're it. :)
I was responding to evul, Dustin, which is why the title of this post is
"Ping evul (was...)".
>> I never claimed to know the person you had the above conversation
>> with, Dustin, so I don't know what the hell you think you're doing.
>
> You did say in another post of yours that they did something to help
> you,
No, I didn't, and I have set that forth above, clearly:
>> I never said that ahm helped me. Not once. What I wrote was this:
>>
>> Message ID: <5q1vdjF...@mid.individual.net>
>>
>> "Do you have a fucking clue what they do these days? I do. And I'm
>> grateful as hell to them for it. Some of those folks are my heros,
>> and they know why, because many months ago, I thanked them for it--
>> ThePsyko, in particular."
>>
>> Do you see the word "help" up there? Do you see evul's name up there?
> and that I hadn't figured out what it is they do yet.
Right. And it was just in the last couple of days, which means...
> You also
> did imply they would in some way shape or form pose a threat to HHI;
> and they do not. I responded that I figured they went after
> pedophiles,
...that your claim above is a blatant lie. You did not respond that you
"figured they went after pedophiles," and I challenge you to post proof
to the contrary.
> not pirates and fellow hackers, and from what I've been
> told, that's correct.
And I never told you they "go after" pirates or fellow hackers.
But I bet if you ask them straight out, they don't think well of those
who go real life for the purpose of net.revenge.
> Obviously you had an issue with a pedophile and they assisted in his
> prosecution or something?
"Obviously"? Obviously not, Dustin, or you wouldn't have made it a
question. You're the one who keeps saying they "helped" me. I never said
that. Never.
> Who knows. I don't care. Either way, it has
> nothing to do with my activities.
Obviously you do care, or you wouldn't keep talking about it.
>> <shakes head> What you have is moron credit--if "credit" is really
>> the appropriate word.
>
> Rhonda, your the only real moron in the entire thread. Nobody emails
> there name, address and phone number as an email signature if they
> don't intend for it to get around. Sorry, but that's reality. *you*
> fucked up.
Dustin, you keep trying to make it my fault that you betrayed my trust
and posted my real life information to alt.sex, inviting people to come
to the house I share with my daughter and my grandmother.
The reality is that you are scum.
> Despite your weak efforts to claim I made the infamous post in
> alt.sex, I personally, did *not* do so. I had a hand in it's
> creation, sure, and I take whatever credit that's worth, but you need
> to get over yourself in a serious way. You've resorted to stalking me
> and hijacking threads to discuss how badly I wronged you with that
> alt.sex post.
Show how I've stalked you, Dustin. I was posting here long before we had
a problem. Indeed, you were the person who kept showing up in places
where you didn't post much in order to respond to posts I was making.
The difference between us is I can document my allegations and you
cannot.
Do you get yet that there are people who sincerely believe that those
who use your program are being set up to take a fall? You're engaging in
this life and death battle with someone who is doing comedy at your
expense, and in the process, your own actions show you still can't be
trusted. You're doing it to yourself, Dustin.
> so your going to try and claim
> I'm a sexual deviant in some way shape or form. You should just give
> it up, accept that I 0wn you and we can go from there.
Why did you snip what he wrote, Dustin?
>> If anything it's quite appropriate to
>> keep mentioning your malicious sexual
>> deviance in a group 'AHM' that tracks
>> down sexual deviants. A bit of
>> background on how you play fire,
>> aligning yourself with potential
>> sexual predators might be useful to
>> AHMers so they don't find themselves
>> in a bit of a contraction (morality
>> wise).
> *contradiction
What kind of person posts a woman's information to alt.sex the way you
did? What kind of character does it show, Dustin, but one that is
deviant?
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
AUK Galactic Killfile, 15 May 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/23766545e259d53c
Winner, Golden Killfile, April 2007
Co-Office Holder, Ministry of Circle Jerks, April and May 2007
Member, Human O-Ring Society, March 2003
NCB#16 BJDS#2 INAC#77 PSLCK#1 SBG#1 A-29204
You don't understand because you don't
read too clearly. I can't connect my
HTC to the *nix box directly (yet).
I use Knoppix live-cd so after powering
off, your lameass posts disappear. The
Vista box belongs to work, and they
wouldn't take kindly to me chatting to
malicious ASICtard. ICS fucks UDP up on
the Vista box and the *nix box.
Anyway I have an even simpler solution,
take the SIM card out of my HTC and
put it in my Sony Ericcson and
serial chat over bluetooth from the
*nix box to the cellphone modem.
But it's not HSPDA so I lose the full
high speed multi-media experiance of
seeing Rhonda kick your shanking arse
(slow mo Internet is such a pain)
>
> > Really? Well I'm doing some socket
> > coding atm, routing UDP down TCP and
> > given your such an expert maybe I
> > should ask you for some input. Oh wait,
> > it's written in C not B'ASIC is that
> > going to be a problem for you?
>
> C hasn't been a problem for me so far, 4Q. :)
>
Yeah like the ASM, no one has ever seen
any fucking C code from your sorryself,
no network code, zilch. Last time you
did a critique of any C code it was mine
and you totally fucked up you clueless
cunt. Now post your C code Dustfart.
> > No I didn't think soldering wires was
> > your primary job asshole! Sweeping the
> > floor and blowing dust off circuit
> > boards was your primary job, boy.
>
> Hahahaha. dream on, 4Q, dream on.
>
> >
> >> Might surprise you to know I'm going to be getting my
> >> electricians licenses withen the next 6 months. Woot.
> >
> > What, you mean selling your moms
> > Pots and Plates on eBay didn't work
> > out as a full time job?
> >
> > *link someone* ;]]
>
> hehehehe. Actually dude, my mom was doing the ebay thing because she
> enjoyed it. I don't really care what she does. And actually, I'm not
You must have been so gutted when you
saw your family heirlooms sold off at
auction, a dollar here a penny there.
You'd have done better selling the junk
at a garage sale.
> doing electrical work for the money so much (as without being licensed, I
> can't make that much yet anyway) as I am for the outdoors aspects. I'm
> tired of being cooped up in an office cubicle. A change of pace for me.
Yeah the janitors broom cupboard you
worked out of at the PC repairshop
must have made you realise you wasted
your money on all those late night
soldering iron classes. *HAHA*
4Q
Tag you back
> And does evul know you posted that chat?
Yes, in fact he does.
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> 4Q <paul...@hushmail.com> wrote in news:c3452a3b-d552-4264-8fd8-
>> 5a957c...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> That's right, you can't attack BugHunter anymore without looking like
>> a total and complete fucking idiot,
>
> Do you get yet that there are people who sincerely believe that those
> who use your program are being set up to take a fall? You're engaging
Sure. People sincerely believed the earth was flat and they'd fall off of
it too. It seems to be taking an awfully long time for this setup to take
place tho. going on.. 3 years now.:) You do realize, the more you
badmouth the program, the more curiosity you bring to it.
> What kind of person posts a woman's information to alt.sex the way you
> did? What kind of character does it show, Dustin, but one that is
> deviant?
I tell you what Rhonda, since this is beyond old. :) You *prove* *I* made
the post, and I'll apologize for it. On the other hand, if you cannot
prove *I* made the post, you'll quit bringing it up? Acceptable terms?
FYI, slight hint regarding your evidence of my previous nick. It was
Gremlin, not "The Gremlin". I don't expect you to see the humour in that,
as you don't seem to understand the concept of LAN. Ask your new best
friend 4Q to explain it to you, obviously kshit couldn't teach you.
I thing when someone goes from VB6 to dot net they are in fact
*downgrading*, and I likewise gave up on converting my software to VBnet;
because it also lacks the same power when integrating activeX controls. and
the likes. Dang VB5 even came with a test CERT; but after M$ found out that
people were using it outside on the web and such instead of a in-house tool
to test before getting a real CERT for it. VBnet also makes it more
difficult to use macromedia flash to design the GUI's or to even use flash
animation on a form.
>
>
>> Convergence being the hot button word now days, it might not be long
>>before even hardware is controlled by web apps. The powers that be may be
>>trying to usher in the days where you don't have a *true* os; but only
>>enough on your machine to boot it up and log onto a server where the rest
>>of
>>the os is then loaded.
>
> Perhaps to improve distribution functionality within corporate
> intranets but not in the mass personal use market where everyone wants
> there own customisation and specific hardware installed.
>
>
I think the public could be *forced* to change in-mass to such a system;
because it is the developers that *dictate* what the public uses. If
developers agreed to only develop and sell such a system the public would
have no choice except to agree. Well that is unless they were to wake up and
get off their VR buts and LEARN how to create their own OS. Just think
about it, most all users being able to program their own. That however is
not going to happen; because 99.999% of users are quite happy to know *only*
what they need to know and have no interest nor desire to learn about their
systems.
No, Dustin.
It was made from your account, using information that none of your
associates could have possessed unless you gave it to them.
No one believes your bullshit story, Dustin, especially not me.
> FYI, slight hint regarding your evidence of my previous nick. It was
> Gremlin, not "The Gremlin". I don't expect you to see the humour in
> that, as you don't seem to understand the concept of LAN. Ask your
> new best friend 4Q to explain it to you, obviously kshit couldn't
> teach you.
I love it. "The concept of a LAN." You fucking idiot.
What part of the "concept" that "no one had that address but you, so
trying to pass it off on someone else won't work" don't you understand?
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
ni...@databasix.com
Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
I'm not sure I believe you, Dustin.
But please be sure to let him know that Don Clark was an innocent
bystander who had absolutely nothing to do with usenet.
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:00:36 GMT, Dustin Cook
<bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote in post to Rhonda:
>I tell you what Rhonda, since this is beyond old. :) You *prove* *I*
>made the post, and I'll apologize for it. On the other hand, if you
>cannot prove *I* made the post, you'll quit bringing it up?
>Acceptable terms?
Lots of times at work I've written a message in Outlook for an
associate, saved it as a *.msg file, given him the file on a floppy
and he's sent it from his e-mail account. Though I was the one who
actually *authored* the message, I didn't *send* it.
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--
Laura Fredericks
4Q's "wicked evil bitch of satire, parody, humor and trollism"
PGP key ID - DH/DSS 2048/1024: 0xC753039A
usenet flamewars:
http://www.queenofcyberspace.com/usenet/
Remove CLOTHES to reply.
But you're still "it." ;)
rl
Good point Laura, do you mean Dustbin
didn't invent some bullshit story about
having a kids tea party in his moms
basement and charging everyone $300 for
pretending they was he? C'mon!!! I was
starting to believe Dustbin had invited
a load of his immature basement dwellers
around to dance about like supersized
condoms.
http://fourq.host.sk/INFO/Nirodh_Cook/ <-- Dustbin the dancing Condom
4Q
Work? I thought them made a person retire when they reached or exceded 67?
Oh that is right, you can continue working while you draw your Social
Security check; but after age 67, they don't deduct your salary from your
Social Security check.
Don't get your bloomers in a twist, all in good fun right;) or at least
that's when you tell me when trying to use a zinger in my direction. lol
But Sugien, her zingers are zingers.
This was just...a teeney, tiny, itty-bitty, tad...um...<looks for a kind
word>...flat. Yeah, that's it. Flat.
I would never call you lame. Not me.
:)
P.S. How old are you? I'm betting you're older than Laura.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
ni...@databasix.com
Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:12:26 -0500, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
<rhon...@gmail.com> wrote in post to Dimbulb.
>P.S. How old are you? I'm betting you're older than Laura.
He is. ;-)
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I haven't had to do that yet. We're doing remodeling work on a red roof
inn. Expect to have the job completed by the first of march. I've been
working with BX cable mostly, and making tie ins. I love the work tho. I
don't mind setting boxes, leveling them, drilling, cutting etc..
> one. Most lay people don't know how much an electrician has to know
> to become a journeyman. Devices, fixtures, or that when you stub up
> out of a slab they have to be dead on; because it sure makes the
> carpenters mad if your stubs miss the wall, lol.
And it'll piss the sheetrockers off a bit too.
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhon...@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rft4hF1488r0U1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> And does evul know you posted that chat?
>>
>> Yes, in fact he does.
>
> I'm not sure I believe you, Dustin.
You could always take Daito up on the invite and ask him yourself on irc.
You don't have to believe me, I don't have any reason to lie about it. He's
aware of the fact I posted a section of the logfile to usenet, Yes.
> But please be sure to let him know that Don Clark was an innocent
> bystander who had absolutely nothing to do with usenet.
He reads usenet.
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhon...@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rfuueF14e1ebU1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>> 4Q <paul...@hushmail.com> wrote in news:c3452a3b-d552-4264-8fd8-
>>>> 5a957c...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> That's right, you can't attack BugHunter anymore without looking
>>>> like a total and complete fucking idiot,
>>>
>>> Do you get yet that there are people who sincerely believe that those
>>> who use your program are being set up to take a fall? You're engaging
>>
>> Sure. People sincerely believed the earth was flat and they'd fall
>> off of it too. It seems to be taking an awfully long time for this
>> setup to take place tho. going on.. 3 years now.:) You do realize,
>> the more you badmouth the program, the more curiosity you bring to it.
>>
>>> What kind of person posts a woman's information to alt.sex the way
>>> you did? What kind of character does it show, Dustin, but one that is
>>> deviant?
>>
>> I tell you what Rhonda, since this is beyond old. :) You *prove* *I*
>> made the post, and I'll apologize for it. On the other hand, if you
>> cannot prove *I* made the post, you'll quit bringing it up?
>> Acceptable terms?
>
> No, Dustin.
Yes, Rhonda.
> It was made from your account, using information that none of your
> associates could have possessed unless you gave it to them.
And yet, *I* didn't make the post. Do you understand that yet?
>> FYI, slight hint regarding your evidence of my previous nick. It was
>> Gremlin, not "The Gremlin". I don't expect you to see the humour in
>> that, as you don't seem to understand the concept of LAN. Ask your
>> new best friend 4Q to explain it to you, obviously kshit couldn't
>> teach you.
>
> I love it. "The concept of a LAN." You fucking idiot.
The only idiot here is you, Rhonda. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
figure out that every computer on this lan looks like the same machine as
far as the internet is concerned.
> What part of the "concept" that "no one had that address but you, so
> trying to pass it off on someone else won't work" don't you understand?
I'm not so sure I believe you, considering it was your email signature.
Which is attached to all outgoing emails. Are you telling me i was the
only one you emailed during that time, Rhonda?
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> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:00:36 GMT, Dustin Cook
> <bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote in post to Rhonda:
>>I tell you what Rhonda, since this is beyond old. :) You *prove* *I*
>>made the post, and I'll apologize for it. On the other hand, if you
>>cannot prove *I* made the post, you'll quit bringing it up?
>>Acceptable terms?
>
> Lots of times at work I've written a message in Outlook for an
> associate, saved it as a *.msg file, given him the file on a floppy
> and he's sent it from his e-mail account. Though I was the one who
> actually *authored* the message, I didn't *send* it.
Your story is similar, I didn't author anything, I just sent the
information via IM to another user on the LAN one day. That individual
used the information and made the post. Rhonda doesn't really like those
boring details.
Rhonda also seems to have a hard time understanding why I would consider
the information to be public knowledge; It was the outgoing signature in
her emails for sometime.
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:57:05 -0500, "Sugien" <paulbr...@gmail.com>
wrote in post:
>Work? I thought them made a person retire when they reached or
>exceded 67? Oh that is right, you can continue working while you
>draw your Social Security check; but after age 67, they don't
>deduct your salary from your Social Security check.
LMAO! You know I'm younger than you, Dimbulb. And about 1/4 the size
of your *snicker* Mae West-lookalike of a wife.
http://a813.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/39/l_8137bf0dc18c6615e4c
5aabade9624ac.jpg
or... http://snipurl.com/1ujaw
(Mrs. Dimbulb is on the right in the blue tent, uh, dress. This must
be what Elvis meant when he sang, "Hunka hunka burning love".)
Hey, Rhonda! Don't you think it's hilarious that someone who can't
hold a job because of a (supposed) medical disability (Mad Cow
Disease; Dimbulb used to work "separating infected cows") would make
the above statement?
P.S. Hi, Kurt.
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I'm afraid you don't decide what is or is not acceptable to me.
Too bad for you.
>> It was made from your account, using information that none of your
>> associates could have possessed unless you gave it to them.
>
> And yet, *I* didn't make the post. Do you understand that yet?
I don't believe you. Why don't you take a poll and see if anyone
believes that a post that came from your email address, your IP address,
containing your standard misuse of the word "your" wasn't a post made by
you.
Do you think everyone is as stupid as you, Dustin?
>>> FYI, slight hint regarding your evidence of my previous nick. It was
>>> Gremlin, not "The Gremlin". I don't expect you to see the humour in
>>> that, as you don't seem to understand the concept of LAN. Ask your
>>> new best friend 4Q to explain it to you, obviously kshit couldn't
>>> teach you.
>>
>> I love it. "The concept of a LAN." You fucking idiot.
>
> The only idiot here is you, Rhonda. It doesn't take a rocket
> scientist to figure out that every computer on this lan looks like
> the same machine as far as the internet is concerned.
Dustin, no one is buying it.
>> What part of the "concept" that "no one had that address but you, so
>> trying to pass it off on someone else won't work" don't you
>> understand?
>
> I'm not so sure I believe you, considering it was your email
> signature. Which is attached to all outgoing emails. Are you telling
> me i was the only one you emailed during that time, Rhonda?
I certainly didn't email anyone who would be using your email address
and LAN, Dustin. Except you, of course.
> I haven't had to do that yet. We're doing remodeling work on a red
> roof inn. Expect to have the job completed by the first of march.
> I've been working with BX cable mostly, and making tie ins. I love
> the work tho. I don't mind setting boxes, leveling them, drilling,
> cutting etc..
How did you lose your last job?
I have no interest in irc.
But I still don't believe you.
>> But please be sure to let him know that Don Clark was an innocent
>> bystander who had absolutely nothing to do with usenet.
>
> He reads usenet.
What a way to waste some time, eh? I only had time this weekend because
I'm too sick to do anything else, but too well just to sleep all the way
through.
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>
>> I haven't had to do that yet. We're doing remodeling work on a red
>> roof inn. Expect to have the job completed by the first of march.
>> I've been working with BX cable mostly, and making tie ins. I love
>> the work tho. I don't mind setting boxes, leveling them, drilling,
>> cutting etc..
>
> How did you lose your last job?
I didn't lose my last job. After 10 years at the same place, I quit. I
maxxed out on pay and couldn't get any more raises, and the job wasn't
going anyplace for me. Same thing every single day, nothing really new to
speak of. I started my own business, and do subcontract work for another
business when I'm not doing/learning the electrician trade.
I fully intend to learn more about engines, chevy specifically sometime
this summer if I can find the time.
And I'm thinking of learning to drive a big rig possibly sometime next
year or the year after. I like learning new things, and electrical work
interests me, as do engines. :)
> Dustin Cook wrote:
>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhon...@gmail.com> wrote in news:5rglf7F14h8tqU1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> Dustin Cook wrote:
>>>> "Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhon...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:5rft4hF1488r0U1 @mid.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> And does evul know you posted that chat?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, in fact he does.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I believe you, Dustin.
>>
>> You could always take Daito up on the invite and ask him yourself on
>> irc. You don't have to believe me, I don't have any reason to lie
>> about it. He's aware of the fact I posted a section of the logfile to
>> usenet, Yes.
>
> I have no interest in irc.
>
> But I still don't believe you.
Suit yourself.
> What a way to waste some time, eh? I only had time this weekend because
usenet isn't a total waste of time. Sure, these flamewars are.. But,
usenet is still useful to me. And obviously yourself. If nothing more
than cheap entertainment. Eh?
Can't blame me for trying.
>>> It was made from your account, using information that none of your
>>> associates could have possessed unless you gave it to them.
>>
>> And yet, *I* didn't make the post. Do you understand that yet?
>
> I don't believe you. Why don't you take a poll and see if anyone
I don't care. Your incurably stupid, I accept this. I'm willing to move
on.
>> The only idiot here is you, Rhonda. It doesn't take a rocket
>> scientist to figure out that every computer on this lan looks like
>> the same machine as far as the internet is concerned.
>
> Dustin, no one is buying it.
Good thing, I'm not selling anything.
>>> What part of the "concept" that "no one had that address but you, so
>>> trying to pass it off on someone else won't work" don't you
>>> understand?
>>
>> I'm not so sure I believe you, considering it was your email
>> signature. Which is attached to all outgoing emails. Are you telling
>> me i was the only one you emailed during that time, Rhonda?
>
> I certainly didn't email anyone who would be using your email address
> and LAN, Dustin. Except you, of course.
Poor spin, especially from you. The question was simple. Was I the only
person you were in email contact with when your personal information was
a signature on your outgoing emails? (We call that a business card here
you know.)
Your the first person to consider the information offered freely to be
private and somehow confidential in this respect. Yes, the alt.sex post
was in very poor taste; yes I do hold some responsibility for it
existing. I have already apologized for my participation in the creation
of the post to no avail. As far as I'm concerned, it's now a closed
matter.
He's a lying sack of shit, they canned
his ass. My bet is he was caught with
his hand in the till or turning up
drunk after a three day drinking binge.
> maxxed out on pay and couldn't get any more raises, and the job wasn't
> going anyplace for me.
Bullshit. The way you've been selling
your story over the years, everyone
would think the boss would be hanging
onto your legs sobing his eyes out to
stop you from going... The Truth: They
couldn't wait to kick you out like an
old box of garbage.
>Same thing every
>single day, nothing really new to
> speak of.
The Truth: Sweeping the floor and
blowing dust off circuit boards.
>I started my own business, and do subcontract work for another
> business
*HAHA* You were subcontracted by your
mom to sell her 'plates n shit' on eBay.
The big PayPal rollout for BugShit
amassed you the princely sum of $5
You've been spotted around town with
a bucket and sponge touting for carwash
business.
> when I'm not doing/learning the electrician trade.
>
boll0x... You're 30yrs old you failed
as a repairshop sweep, you failed as
a 16bit DOS coder, now you a trying
to fool us you are training up to be
a sparky. If you get beyond a 'fetch
my box out of the truck' boy, I'd be
impressed.
> I fully intend to learn more about engines, chevy specifically sometime
> this summer if I can find the time.
>
Yeah yeah yea... try something a little
less ambitious. A bar tender or picking
veg in a field for the local farm.
> And I'm thinking of learning to drive a big rig possibly sometime next
> year or the year after. I like learning new things, and electrical work
> interests me, as do engines. :)
Loser. You fucked up now you stay home
thinking up your madcap plans for your next big adventure... have you
considered Rocket Scientist,Novel writer
or International Super Sleuth yet? When
you do you should hook up with a
certain Mr. Barlev and you two losers
can plan even bigger things to fail at.
Hope that helps
4Q
Oy!
That $5 is 82,500 dongs! Vietnamese dongs!
82,500!
From http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic
n.p.n
BTW, G R E A T video of our hero.
Seems as if you don't like Dustin, 4Q - is that right?
Video:
http://fourq.host.sk/INFO/Nirodh_Cook/
Yeah, it's a great program 'Camtasia'
a lovely piece of kit. I only wish I
had it X number of years ago, when I
was *more* of a bastard... I've sort of
gone mellow on cunts like Dustbin these
days. A few years ago the video would
have had him sucking *ALL* them
Vietnamese dongs, one by one till he
choked on it. I'm not as cruel, mean
or vengeful as PCButts though.
4Q
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:29:59 -0500, "Sugien" <paulbr...@gmail.com>
wrote in post:
>...I am 54 and you are at least 10 years older then me.
Yeah yeah yeah and I'm really 4Q.
And while we're at it, I'm also Raid. Rodzilla, too. In fact, I'm
*every* poster on acv except you.* Welcome to The Twilight Zone.
*And Dickhead.
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Wow! You're old.
I'm only 49, and Laura is younger than me.
;)
You are just brainwashed by the media for those that sell you make-up
and designer clothes. They want women to be the size of been poles so that
they can sell them clothes that cost less to make; because of using less
material and changing more for it to boot.
I learned young in life that the packaging is the *LEAST* important of
the quality's needed to be a wife or a husband. FYI, seeing as how you
obviously never learned it; but which your mirror will continue to tell you
more and more. ALL beauty FADES with time.; but what a person is on the
inside lasts their entire life. IOW, a be otch is a be otch and pretty
packing only make them a pretty be otch but none the less a be otch.
I have been married 27 years my next anniversary and we lived together
for 2 years before getting married. You on the other hand have had how many
relationships? I think you're just jealous. Every time you *try* and take
a dig at my wife, I pity you; because I know you are attacking because from
the deep dark pit in your stomach that you try and fill with designer cloths
and other things you have been brainwashed into *thinking* you need, your
just a scared little girl. Scared knowing that you're hollow inside.
>
> Hey, Rhonda! Don't you think it's hilarious that someone who can't
> hold a job because of a (supposed) medical disability (Mad Cow
Nothing supposed about my injurys sweety. X-Rays and MRI and CAT scans
can't be faked, and you must not know anyone that has ever applied for
Social Security Disability payments; because other wise you would *know* how
difficualt it is to get them to approve you for a 100% perminate disability.
> Disease; Dimbulb used to work "separating infected cows") would make
> the above statement?
It tickles me that you have latched onto *one* of the jobs I did, in my
past, One which I only worked for 3 months. I was actually disabled back
then also; but I was bull headed and refused to quit working. Had I gone
ahead and let them put me on disability back then like my doctors
suggested, I may have had a chance at rehabilitation. But I decided to keep
working *against* doctors orders and as a result did far more damage. I
almost (almost wish; because I would NEVER wish my disabilities on anyone)
wish you could feel the way I do all day every day; for just a few minuets;
but from your many posts I get the feeling that you would not last more then
a minuet maybe 2 before you called Dr. Kevorkian
Thanks for the admission<s>
>
> And while we're at it, I'm also Raid. Rodzilla, too. In fact, I'm
> *every* poster on acv except you.* Welcome to The Twilight Zone.
Sorry don't believe that; but maybe in your mind, who knows
> FYI, seeing as how you
> obviously never learned it; but which your mirror will continue to
> tell you more and more. ALL beauty FADES with time.
She's got that picture in her attic, remember?
> but what a person is on the
> inside lasts their entire life. IOW, a be otch is a be otch and pretty
> packing only make them a pretty be otch but none the less a be otch.
Yes, she is a pretty bitch.
> wish you could feel the way I do all day every day; for just a few minuets;
> but from your many posts I get the feeling that you would not last more then
> a minuet maybe 2 before you called Dr. Kevorkian
Perhaps just a few bars to start with. You hum it, I'll play it.
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:57:50 -0500, "Sugien" <paulbr...@gmail.com>
wrote in post:
>...a be otch is a be otch and pretty packing only make them a pretty
>be otch but none the less a be otch.
I'd rather be a pretty bitch than an 800 lb circus fat lady.
>...you must not know anyone that has ever applied for Social
>Security Disability payments; because other wise you would *know*
>how difficualt it is to get them to approve you for a 100% perminate
>disability.
My mother used to work for Social Security, Dimbulb, so I indeed know
how difficult it is. Perhaps they approved you because after reading
your gawd-awful misspellings and imbecile-level grammatical errors on
the forms, they realized you were *mentally* disabled,
>wish you could feel the way I do all day every day; for just a few
>minuets; but from your many posts I get the feeling that you would
>not last more then a minuet maybe 2 before you called Dr. Kevorkian
The Minuet [sic] Waltz lasts only one minute, Mister Infected Cow
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:12:55 -0000, "Ant" <n...@home.today> wrote in
post:
>"Sugien" wrote about Laura:
>>but what a person is on the inside lasts their entire life. IOW, a
>>be otch is a be otch and pretty packing only make them a pretty be
>>otch but none the less a be otch.
>Yes, she is a pretty bitch.
Thanks, Ant. :-)
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:02:36 -0500, "Sugien" <paulbr...@gmail.com>
wrote in post:
>Well either my spelling checker didn't pop up on that word because
>it is an actual word, or maybe I was trying a slight bit of humor
>in as much that my statement "you would not last more then a
>minuet, maybe 2 before you called dr. Kevorkian." how long does a
>minuet last? I would guess a minuet last about 4-5 minutes, so
>either you didn't catch a clever pun or play on words or my
>spelling checker let me down<lol>
"Clever" is not in your Hillbilly Dictionary, Dimbulb.
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> "Ant" wrote:
>> "Sugien" wrote about Laura:
>>> but which your mirror will continue to
>>> tell you more and more. ALL beauty FADES with time.
>>
>> She's got that picture in her attic, remember?
>
> More likely she has a good Nip N' Tuck doctor, most likely on retainer.
Nah, she's too young to need that.
>>> IOW, a be otch is a be otch and pretty
>>> packing only make them a pretty be otch but none the less a be otch.
>>
>> Yes, she is a pretty bitch.
>
> Seeing as I was speaking in generalities I didn't call Laura a bitch; but it
> sure looks like you have;) or at the very least you made a connection to her
> when I was speaking in the most general of terms.
Pull the other one. You were alluding to her.
>>> but from your many posts I get the feeling that you would not last more
>>> then a minuet maybe 2 before you called Dr. Kevorkian
>>
>> Perhaps just a few bars to start with. You hum it, I'll play it.
>
> Well either my spelling checker didn't pop up on that word because it is an
> actual word,
We all know how well your spill-chucker works.
> or maybe I was trying a slight bit of humor
Or maybe you secretly want to dance with her.
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:12:55 -0000, "Ant" wrote:
>>Yes, she is a pretty bitch.
>
> Thanks, Ant. :-)
You're welcome ;)
of course you would *rather* be *anything* other then what you are; because
you are lonely
>
>>...you must not know anyone that has ever applied for Social
>>Security Disability payments; because other wise you would *know*
>>how difficualt it is to get them to approve you for a 100% perminate
>>disability.
>
> My mother used to work for Social Security, Dimbulb, so I indeed know
> how difficult it is. Perhaps they approved you because after reading
> your gawd-awful misspellings and imbecile-level grammatical errors on
> the forms, they realized you were *mentally* disabled,
Sorry to burst your preconceived bubble; but no. I am disabled for
*physical* problem not psychological problems like you:p
>
>>wish you could feel the way I do all day every day; for just a few
>>minuets; but from your many posts I get the feeling that you would
>>not last more then a minuet maybe 2 before you called Dr. Kevorkian
>
> The Minuet [sic] Waltz lasts only one minute, Mister Infected Cow
> Separator.
which is why I said "maybe 2" btw not all minuet's last only one minute. Or
maybe I just transposed the T, and E? hmmmm inquiring minds want to know,
so obviously you don't want to know, lol
--
The fantasy author Terry Pratchett describes the difference
between "erotic" and "kinky" as:
"the difference between using a feather and using a chicken."
--
"One cannot study the universe without coming to the conclusion that it was
created by a universal mind or some outside intelligence"
Albert Einstein
You haven't seen her turkey gobbler hanging down lately have you? because
she had it pinned up behind her ears again. She maybe has everyone fooled;
but not me, I know she is at the very least older then I, and most likely
older by years then I.
>
>>>> IOW, a be otch is a be otch and pretty
>>>> packing only make them a pretty be otch but none the less a be otch.
>>>
>>> Yes, she is a pretty bitch.
>>
>> Seeing as I was speaking in generalities I didn't call Laura a bitch; but
>> it
>> sure looks like you have;) or at the very least you made a connection to
>> her
>> when I was speaking in the most general of terms.
>
> Pull the other one. You were alluding to her.
No not at all, and after reading my posts over the years you should know as
everyone does, I do NOT allude to someone being something or other. I come
right out and say it if that is my intention; but in this case no it wasn't;
but I am amused that you read that into it. I would guess you made the
fabled "Freudian Slip"
>
>>>> but from your many posts I get the feeling that you would not last more
>>>> then a minuet maybe 2 before you called Dr. Kevorkian
>>>
>>> Perhaps just a few bars to start with. You hum it, I'll play it.
>>
>> Well either my spelling checker didn't pop up on that word because it is
>> an
>> actual word,
>
> We all know how well your spill-chucker works.
It works just fine; but it won't say a word is misspelled if the misspelling
is an actual word. Much like in this sentence in the beginning had I typed
"find" instead of "fine" the spelling checker would not have popped up. But
of course you and everyone reading know that you know this , or at least
unless your IQ had dropped well into double digits. The only other
possibility is that you are trolling, so which is it?
>
>> or maybe I was trying a slight bit of humor
>
> Or maybe you secretly want to dance with her.
>
Now you owe me for cost of hypnotherapy to get that image out of my mind;
because that would be an encounter of the strangest kind.
--
Having only a whit of wit, is the reason your forte is mediocrity and why
your posts abound with mistakes
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> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 16:57:50 -0500, "Sugien" <paulbr...@gmail.com>
> wrote in post:
>>...a be otch is a be otch and pretty packing only make them a pretty
>>be otch but none the less a be otch.
>
> I'd rather be a pretty bitch than an 800 lb circus fat lady.
Laura, is there some specific thing you have against his wife?
> My mother used to work for Social Security, Dimbulb, so I indeed know
> how difficult it is. Perhaps they approved you because after reading
> your gawd-awful misspellings and imbecile-level grammatical errors on
> the forms, they realized you were *mentally* disabled,
Did your mother tell you how often the claims were rejected?
Hey! Am I on your LAN too, Dustin? :)
Dave
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:25:17 -0500, "Sugien" <paulbr...@gmail.com>
wrote in post:
>only people of low intelligence need to know how to spell
>something...
You're an idiot.
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:37:02 -0500, "Sugien" <paulbr...@gmail.com>
wrote in post:
>...I do NOT allude to someone being something or other. I come
>right out and say it...
Me, too. You're an idiot.
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:33:48 GMT, Dustin Cook aka Dimbulb's puppet,
<bughunte...@gmail.com> wrote in post:
>Laura, is there some specific thing you have against his wife?
Not at all. I'm sure she's a lovely woman. But according to Dimbulb,
I'm jealous of her because she has his 18" schlong all to herself,
lol.
>Did your mother tell you how often the claims were rejected?
Yup.
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and you're a terrible judge of character so what's you point? iow, you
can't spout any type of slur my way with any effect; because for it to have
any power behind it , It would be necessary for me to value your opinion.
Seeing as how I do not value your opinion, your attempts at a putdown are
as poignant as a gnat farting in the worlds largest perfume factory.