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Hisler
May 26, 2012, 1:44:59 AM5/26/12
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http://www.alt-market.com/articles/795-wall-street-banks-building-a-private-army
This article was written by Alexander Higgins and originally published
at TheTruthIsNow.com
Wall Street banks have secretly taken over US firearms and ammunition
manufacturers and the world’s largest mercenary firms in a stealth build
up private military force.
A Daily KOs article reveals that Wall Street banks have used private
equity firms to acquire and launch a massive stealth takeover of private
security firms, US ammo and gun manufacturers, uniforms, silencers and
an army of mercenaries to build what amounts to the world’s largest
private army.
At the same time the private mercenary companies they now control, which
include the likes of Dynacorp and the notorious name changing
Blackwater/Xe Services/Academi, have been authorized under Department
of Defense DIRECTIVE NUMBER 3025.18 to actually conduct policing
operations inside the United States.
The article reveals Citi Bank, Bank of America, Barclays, and Deutsche
Bank have provide huge amounts of funding to two private Wall Street
equity firms, Cerebus and Veritas Equity, which in turn have used
umbrella companies such as Freedom Corp., to engage in stealth takeovers
and weapons stockpiling which has consumed the likes of several gun
manufacturers and ammunition manufacturers including Remington, Cobbs,
H&R, Marlin, Dakota, and Bushmaker.
Furthermore, the same private equity firms have taken over companies
involved in the “crowd control industry”.
One such example is CPI which manufacturers microwave and radio
frequency crowd control pain inducers similar to the US Military’s heat
gun which has been mentioned for deployment to control Occupy protestors.
All of this comes following news that the Department of Homeland
Security has purchased 450 million rounds of ammunition banned by the
Geneva Convention which is coupled with reports that feds are buying up
all surplus ammo and even ordering stores to cease sales to civilians.
At the same time a DHS informant says that the DHS is preparing for a
civil war and recently leaked army manuals reveal mass military
detention centers are being prepared inside the US for a War On Terror
‘strategy shift‘.
This article was written by Alexander Higgins and originally published
at TheTruthIsNow.com
Wall Street banks have secretly taken over US firearms and ammunition
manufacturers and the world’s largest mercenary firms in a stealth build
up private military force.
A Daily KOs article reveals that Wall Street banks have used private
equity firms to acquire and launch a massive stealth takeover of private
security firms, US ammo and gun manufacturers, uniforms, silencers and
an army of mercenaries to build what amounts to the world’s largest
private army.
At the same time the private mercenary companies they now control, which
include the likes of Dynacorp and the notorious name changing
Blackwater/Xe Services/Academi, have been authorized under Department
of Defense DIRECTIVE NUMBER 3025.18 to actually conduct policing
operations inside the United States.
The article reveals Citi Bank, Bank of America, Barclays, and Deutsche
Bank have provide huge amounts of funding to two private Wall Street
equity firms, Cerebus and Veritas Equity, which in turn have used
umbrella companies such as Freedom Corp., to engage in stealth takeovers
and weapons stockpiling which has consumed the likes of several gun
manufacturers and ammunition manufacturers including Remington, Cobbs,
H&R, Marlin, Dakota, and Bushmaker.
Furthermore, the same private equity firms have taken over companies
involved in the “crowd control industry”.
One such example is CPI which manufacturers microwave and radio
frequency crowd control pain inducers similar to the US Military’s heat
gun which has been mentioned for deployment to control Occupy protestors.
All of this comes following news that the Department of Homeland
Security has purchased 450 million rounds of ammunition banned by the
Geneva Convention which is coupled with reports that feds are buying up
all surplus ammo and even ordering stores to cease sales to civilians.
At the same time a DHS informant says that the DHS is preparing for a
civil war and recently leaked army manuals reveal mass military
detention centers are being prepared inside the US for a War On Terror
‘strategy shift‘.
de...@dudu.org
May 26, 2012, 9:31:56 AM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:44:59 -0600, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:
>http://www.alt-market.com/articles/795-wall-street-banks-building-a-private-army
>
>This article was written by Alexander Higgins and originally published
>at TheTruthIsNow.com
>
>Wall Street banks have secretly taken over US firearms and ammunition
>manufacturers and the world’s largest mercenary firms in a stealth build
>up private military force.
The fascists cometh. They are being a bit more stealthy this time,
>http://www.alt-market.com/articles/795-wall-street-banks-building-a-private-army
>
>This article was written by Alexander Higgins and originally published
>at TheTruthIsNow.com
>
>Wall Street banks have secretly taken over US firearms and ammunition
>manufacturers and the world’s largest mercenary firms in a stealth build
>up private military force.
too.
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Larry
May 26, 2012, 4:29:52 PM5/26/12
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In article <cjd2s75pqp0j73u40...@Osama-Is-Dead.net>, sealteam6
@osama-is-dead.net says...
> have not noticed any shortage of mil-surp ammo either on the
> Internet.
>
> Where is this shortage supposed to be?
This is old news nonsense. The ammunition purchase was for LEO practice and
duty use. It sounds like a lot, but it's not if you spread it around to the
whole country. Figure a trainee has to fire 10,000 rounds to qualify and 500
rounds a month to stay in practice. How many brand new border guards did they
just hire? 15,000? That's 150 million rounds just to get them qualified.
As for bullets, Hornady and Nosler are both reasonably local to me, and they
are both still small, family owned companies.
@osama-is-dead.net says...
>
> Hisler wrote:
>
> >All of this comes following news that the Department of Homeland
> >Security has purchased 450 million rounds of ammunition banned by the
> >Geneva Convention which is coupled with reports that feds are buying up
> >all surplus ammo and even ordering stores to cease sales to civilians.
>
> My local Academy store has all the ammo I could possibly want. I
> Hisler wrote:
>
> >All of this comes following news that the Department of Homeland
> >Security has purchased 450 million rounds of ammunition banned by the
> >Geneva Convention which is coupled with reports that feds are buying up
> >all surplus ammo and even ordering stores to cease sales to civilians.
>
> have not noticed any shortage of mil-surp ammo either on the
> Internet.
>
> Where is this shortage supposed to be?
This is old news nonsense. The ammunition purchase was for LEO practice and
duty use. It sounds like a lot, but it's not if you spread it around to the
whole country. Figure a trainee has to fire 10,000 rounds to qualify and 500
rounds a month to stay in practice. How many brand new border guards did they
just hire? 15,000? That's 150 million rounds just to get them qualified.
As for bullets, Hornady and Nosler are both reasonably local to me, and they
are both still small, family owned companies.
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de...@dudu.org
May 26, 2012, 5:37:12 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 15:02:46 -0500, G. Morgan
<seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote:
>Hisler wrote:
>
>>All of this comes following news that the Department of Homeland
>>Security has purchased 450 million rounds of ammunition banned by the
>>Geneva Convention which is coupled with reports that feds are buying up
>>all surplus ammo and even ordering stores to cease sales to civilians.
>
<seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote:
>Hisler wrote:
>
>>All of this comes following news that the Department of Homeland
>>Security has purchased 450 million rounds of ammunition banned by the
>>Geneva Convention which is coupled with reports that feds are buying up
>>all surplus ammo and even ordering stores to cease sales to civilians.
>
>My local Academy store has all the ammo I could possibly want. I
>have not noticed any shortage of mil-surp ammo either on the
>Internet.
>
>Where is this shortage supposed to be?
The shortage is between Steve's ears.
>have not noticed any shortage of mil-surp ammo either on the
>Internet.
>
>Where is this shortage supposed to be?
rbowman
May 26, 2012, 6:01:07 PM5/26/12
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G. Morgan wrote:
> Yeah, the same bullets used by regular patrol cops. .40 ACP
> hollow points. 10,000 rounds to qualify? That sounds high, but I
> am not in a position "in the know".
10,000 rounds sounds very high. A top USPSA shooter at the club level may
shoot 10,000 a year, and the sponsored Grand Masters might go through 50,000
round or more. Many, if not most, LEOs just aren't that interested and
outside of the deep pocketed Feds and their departments really aren't
interested in buying that much ammo.
Maybe the Feds are different. After all they have money (ours) to burn.
> Yeah, the same bullets used by regular patrol cops. .40 ACP
> hollow points. 10,000 rounds to qualify? That sounds high, but I
> am not in a position "in the know".
10,000 rounds sounds very high. A top USPSA shooter at the club level may
shoot 10,000 a year, and the sponsored Grand Masters might go through 50,000
round or more. Many, if not most, LEOs just aren't that interested and
outside of the deep pocketed Feds and their departments really aren't
interested in buying that much ammo.
Maybe the Feds are different. After all they have money (ours) to burn.
Hisler
May 27, 2012, 1:13:38 AM5/27/12
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On 5/26/2012 2:02 PM, G. Morgan wrote:
informed by a friend that Snopes had discredited the article, but it is
too late for me to remove the OP. OTOH, the fact that it is false is
good news. I would hope that regulars in alt.survival and alt.guns
would prefer to read thought provoking articles that sometimes prove to
be false rather than limit conversation to, say, SM's posts on church
picnics or flashlights.
> Hisler wrote:
>
>> All of this comes following news that the Department of Homeland
>> Security has purchased 450 million rounds of ammunition banned by the
>> Geneva Convention which is coupled with reports that feds are buying up
>> all surplus ammo and even ordering stores to cease sales to civilians.
>
>
>> All of this comes following news that the Department of Homeland
>> Security has purchased 450 million rounds of ammunition banned by the
>> Geneva Convention which is coupled with reports that feds are buying up
>> all surplus ammo and even ordering stores to cease sales to civilians.
>
> My local Academy store has all the ammo I could possibly want. I
> have not noticed any shortage of mil-surp ammo either on the
> Internet.
>
> Where is this shortage supposed to be?
>
I didn't write the article that I posted the link to. I have been
> have not noticed any shortage of mil-surp ammo either on the
> Internet.
>
> Where is this shortage supposed to be?
>
informed by a friend that Snopes had discredited the article, but it is
too late for me to remove the OP. OTOH, the fact that it is false is
good news. I would hope that regulars in alt.survival and alt.guns
would prefer to read thought provoking articles that sometimes prove to
be false rather than limit conversation to, say, SM's posts on church
picnics or flashlights.
JerryD(upstateNY)
May 27, 2012, 3:54:46 AM5/27/12
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Hisler" wrote in message........................... Wall Street banks have
it.
John Edwards may go to prison for paying off a mistress.
And someone thinks a conspiracy involving hundreds of people can be kept a
secret.
hahahahahaha
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
secretly
taken over US firearms and ammunition manufacturers and the
world’s largest mercenary firms in a stealth build up private military
force.<<<<<<<<
Bill Clinton can't get a BJ without everyone on the planet finding out about
taken over US firearms and ammunition manufacturers and the
world’s largest mercenary firms in a stealth build up private military
force.<<<<<<<<
it.
John Edwards may go to prison for paying off a mistress.
And someone thinks a conspiracy involving hundreds of people can be kept a
secret.
hahahahahaha
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
JerryD(upstateNY)
May 27, 2012, 4:03:46 AM5/27/12
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"G. Morgan" wrote in message.......... Where is this shortage supposed to
be?
There was a shortage of .380 ammo for a while, when the 380 Kel Tec polymer
came out and everyone followed suit with their own polymer .380.
But that was about 2 years ago.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
be?
There was a shortage of .380 ammo for a while, when the 380 Kel Tec polymer
came out and everyone followed suit with their own polymer .380.
But that was about 2 years ago.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
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Gunner Asch
May 27, 2012, 5:30:08 AM5/27/12
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that didnt desert and take their tanks and machine guns home with them)
and mercs.
Given the huge number of trained gun owners who Used to be military and
cops etc...and the disparity in numbers..does anyone think the
mercs/government/cops have the slightest chance of winning..or keeping
any quanity of Americans in those detention centers?
A detention center gets set up..and filled up..and some night a group of
dark clad citizens is going to blow the gates, kill the guards and staff
and tear down the fences and let everyone go free.
Repeat as necessary.
Gunner
--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".
Stormin Mormon
May 27, 2012, 7:39:07 AM5/27/12
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OP is usually a person "original poster". So, I sure hope you don't remove
any OP, that could lead to murder charges.
With bullets in short supply (and me not needing any, in my case), that
leaves more budget for church picnics, and flashlights. Thanks for pointing
out the good news.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
"Hisler" <His...@cocks.net> wrote in message
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any OP, that could lead to murder charges.
With bullets in short supply (and me not needing any, in my case), that
leaves more budget for church picnics, and flashlights. Thanks for pointing
out the good news.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
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misanthrope
May 27, 2012, 9:04:57 AM5/27/12
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On 5/27/2012 6:39 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> OP is usually a person "original poster". So, I sure hope you don't remove
> any OP, that could lead to murder charges.
OP also refers to 'original post' which is the meaning that stands out
> OP is usually a person "original poster". So, I sure hope you don't remove
> any OP, that could lead to murder charges.
to me in Hisler's usage here.
>
> With bullets in short supply (and me not needing any, in my case), that
> leaves more budget for church picnics, and flashlights. Thanks for pointing
> out the good news.
>
JerryD(upstateNY)
May 27, 2012, 10:20:09 AM5/27/12
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Gunner Asch" wrote in message Given the huge number of trained
slightest chance of winning.. or keeping any quantity of Americans
in those detention centers?<<<<<<<<
During the cold war with the USSR, I suggested that the US just give up
and let the USSR come over here and keep everyone here, in line.
After a few times that they sent 10-20 thousand of their troops over here
and they just disappeared, they would have a hard time getting
anyone to come over here.
We could have won the cold war in a year.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
gun owners who Used to be military and cops etc...and the disparity in
numbers.. does anyone think the mercs/government/cops have the
slightest chance of winning.. or keeping any quantity of Americans
in those detention centers?<<<<<<<<
During the cold war with the USSR, I suggested that the US just give up
and let the USSR come over here and keep everyone here, in line.
After a few times that they sent 10-20 thousand of their troops over here
and they just disappeared, they would have a hard time getting
anyone to come over here.
We could have won the cold war in a year.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
Dustin
May 27, 2012, 2:47:37 PM5/27/12
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G. Morgan <seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote in
news:37i2s7pgjtrbn64nt...@Osama-Is-Dead.net:
> Yeah, the same bullets used by regular patrol cops. .40 ACP
> hollow points. 10,000 rounds to qualify? That sounds high, but I
> am not in a position "in the know".
That's alot of pistol rounds to be sure you can hit what you're aiming
at...without blasting some innocent person or property. Kinda scary
infact.
> a problem with a CCI Stinger or Blazer. I have Dustin to thank
You're welcome. I love the extra pop they have.
--
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and
the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts
news:37i2s7pgjtrbn64nt...@Osama-Is-Dead.net:
> Yeah, the same bullets used by regular patrol cops. .40 ACP
> hollow points. 10,000 rounds to qualify? That sounds high, but I
> am not in a position "in the know".
at...without blasting some innocent person or property. Kinda scary
infact.
> a problem with a CCI Stinger or Blazer. I have Dustin to thank
You're welcome. I love the extra pop they have.
--
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and
the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts
Dustin
May 27, 2012, 2:49:39 PM5/27/12
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Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote in news:jpsd5v$ra8$1...@dont-email.me:
> sometimes prove to be false rather than limit conversation to, say,
> SM's posts on church picnics or flashlights.
leaking flashlights. [g]
> sometimes prove to be false rather than limit conversation to, say,
> SM's posts on church picnics or flashlights.
Dustin
May 27, 2012, 2:50:42 PM5/27/12
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"JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <jer...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in
news:jpsmk7$27v$1...@jerryd.eternal-september.org:
too fucking funny.
news:jpsmk7$27v$1...@jerryd.eternal-september.org:
Dustin
May 27, 2012, 2:52:02 PM5/27/12
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"JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <jer...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in
news:jptd6r$jf9$1...@jerryd.eternal-september.org:
> Gunner Asch" wrote in message Given the huge number of trained
> gun owners who Used to be military and cops etc...and the disparity
> in numbers.. does anyone think the mercs/government/cops have the
> slightest chance of winning.. or keeping any quantity of Americans
> in those detention centers?<<<<<<<<
>
> During the cold war with the USSR, I suggested that the US just give
> up and let the USSR come over here and keep everyone here, in line.
> After a few times that they sent 10-20 thousand of their troops over
> here and they just disappeared, they would have a hard time getting
> anyone to come over here.
Stormin Mormon
May 27, 2012, 3:08:41 PM5/27/12
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And, the ever popular reposts, about how to prepare for the next hurricane.
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rbowman
May 27, 2012, 5:32:05 PM5/27/12
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Dustin wrote:
> That's alot of pistol rounds to be sure you can hit what you're aiming
> at...without blasting some innocent person or property. Kinda scary
> infact.
I guess they're slow learners. I think you can take every pistol class on
> That's alot of pistol rounds to be sure you can hit what you're aiming
> at...without blasting some innocent person or property. Kinda scary
> infact.
the Gunsite menu and only need 5000 rounds.
misanthrope
May 27, 2012, 10:12:08 PM5/27/12
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On 5/27/2012 1:47 PM, Dustin wrote:
> G. Morgan<seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote in
> news:37i2s7pgjtrbn64nt...@Osama-Is-Dead.net:
>
>> Yeah, the same bullets used by regular patrol cops. .40 ACP
>> hollow points. 10,000 rounds to qualify? That sounds high, but I
>> am not in a position "in the know".
>
> That's alot of pistol rounds to be sure you can hit what you're aiming
> at...without blasting some innocent person or property. Kinda scary
> infact.
>
>> a problem with a CCI Stinger or Blazer. I have Dustin to thank
>
> You're welcome. I love the extra pop they have.
>
I've recently tried the stingers in my 10/22 and my Mark III, and did
> G. Morgan<seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote in
> news:37i2s7pgjtrbn64nt...@Osama-Is-Dead.net:
>
>> Yeah, the same bullets used by regular patrol cops. .40 ACP
>> hollow points. 10,000 rounds to qualify? That sounds high, but I
>> am not in a position "in the know".
>
> That's alot of pistol rounds to be sure you can hit what you're aiming
> at...without blasting some innocent person or property. Kinda scary
> infact.
>
>> a problem with a CCI Stinger or Blazer. I have Dustin to thank
>
> You're welcome. I love the extra pop they have.
>
not really notice a difference over the regular 22 ammo I normally use.
Dustin
May 27, 2012, 10:13:55 PM5/27/12
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misanthrope <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:jpumtq$cmp$1
@speranza.aioe.org:
Which ammo do you regularly use? And, are you hard of hearing or visually
impaired? The stingers tend to be rather loud for a .22 and the muzzle
flash is usually noticably longer compared to your average .22LR round.
@speranza.aioe.org:
impaired? The stingers tend to be rather loud for a .22 and the muzzle
flash is usually noticably longer compared to your average .22LR round.
misanthrope
May 27, 2012, 11:02:53 PM5/27/12
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On 5/27/2012 9:13 PM, Dustin wrote:
> misanthrope<m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:jpumtq$cmp$1
> @speranza.aioe.org:
>
>> On 5/27/2012 1:47 PM, Dustin wrote:
>>> G. Morgan<seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote in
>>> news:37i2s7pgjtrbn64nt...@Osama-Is-Dead.net:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, the same bullets used by regular patrol cops. .40 ACP
>>>> hollow points. 10,000 rounds to qualify? That sounds high, but I
>>>> am not in a position "in the know".
>>>
>>> That's alot of pistol rounds to be sure you can hit what you're aiming
>>> at...without blasting some innocent person or property. Kinda scary
>>> infact.
>>>
>>>> a problem with a CCI Stinger or Blazer. I have Dustin to thank
>>>
>>> You're welcome. I love the extra pop they have.
>>>
>>
>> I've recently tried the stingers in my 10/22 and my Mark III, and did
>> not really notice a difference over the regular 22 ammo I normally use.
>>
>
> Which ammo do you regularly use? And, are you hard of hearing or visually
> impaired? The stingers tend to be rather loud for a .22 and the muzzle
> flash is usually noticably longer compared to your average .22LR round.
>
>
Winchester 22 qty 525 in the white box, and I am hearing impaired, plus
> misanthrope<m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:jpumtq$cmp$1
> @speranza.aioe.org:
>
>> On 5/27/2012 1:47 PM, Dustin wrote:
>>> G. Morgan<seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote in
>>> news:37i2s7pgjtrbn64nt...@Osama-Is-Dead.net:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, the same bullets used by regular patrol cops. .40 ACP
>>>> hollow points. 10,000 rounds to qualify? That sounds high, but I
>>>> am not in a position "in the know".
>>>
>>> That's alot of pistol rounds to be sure you can hit what you're aiming
>>> at...without blasting some innocent person or property. Kinda scary
>>> infact.
>>>
>>>> a problem with a CCI Stinger or Blazer. I have Dustin to thank
>>>
>>> You're welcome. I love the extra pop they have.
>>>
>>
>> I've recently tried the stingers in my 10/22 and my Mark III, and did
>> not really notice a difference over the regular 22 ammo I normally use.
>>
>
> Which ammo do you regularly use? And, are you hard of hearing or visually
> impaired? The stingers tend to be rather loud for a .22 and the muzzle
> flash is usually noticably longer compared to your average .22LR round.
>
>
I wear hearing protection.
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Gunner Asch
May 28, 2012, 3:02:27 PM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 10:46:38 -0500, G. Morgan
<seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote:
>I have a Mossberg Plinkster that any ammo will work, but the
>Marlin 60 does not like cheap rounds. I get fail to eject
>sometimes when using cheap bulk ammo with that one. I hate having
>to dig a spent casing out when the gun still has hot ones behind
>it (tube feed). Usually just a pry with a knife does the trick,
>but still unreliable unless I load it with high-quality ammo. For
>me 'unreliable' means any failure out of 100 rounds.
Take a bit of 250-400 grit sand paper (or emery cloth), and slide it
through your jag tip on a short section of cleaning rod. Disassemble the
rifle and insert the jag and 400 grit paper. Now spin it for 30 seconds
with an electric drill motor, moving it gently in and out of the
chamber. Clean with a bit of light oil on a patch, reassemble and shoot.
If it fails to extract again, repeat the polishing. Doesnt take very
much to clean up a 22s chamber. And yes..you CAN spritz the chamber with
Breakfree, Triflow etc etc and shoot it wet. Something you cant do with
centerfires.
<seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote:
>Marlin 60 does not like cheap rounds. I get fail to eject
>sometimes when using cheap bulk ammo with that one. I hate having
>to dig a spent casing out when the gun still has hot ones behind
>it (tube feed). Usually just a pry with a knife does the trick,
>but still unreliable unless I load it with high-quality ammo. For
>me 'unreliable' means any failure out of 100 rounds.
Take a bit of 250-400 grit sand paper (or emery cloth), and slide it
through your jag tip on a short section of cleaning rod. Disassemble the
rifle and insert the jag and 400 grit paper. Now spin it for 30 seconds
with an electric drill motor, moving it gently in and out of the
chamber. Clean with a bit of light oil on a patch, reassemble and shoot.
If it fails to extract again, repeat the polishing. Doesnt take very
much to clean up a 22s chamber. And yes..you CAN spritz the chamber with
Breakfree, Triflow etc etc and shoot it wet. Something you cant do with
centerfires.
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Gunner Asch
May 28, 2012, 11:20:20 PM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 14:33:30 -0500, G. Morgan
<seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote:
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>>Take a bit of 250-400 grit sand paper (or emery cloth), and slide it
>>through your jag tip on a short section of cleaning rod. Disassemble the
>>rifle and insert the jag and 400 grit paper. Now spin it for 30 seconds
>>with an electric drill motor, moving it gently in and out of the
>>chamber. Clean with a bit of light oil on a patch, reassemble and shoot.
>>If it fails to extract again, repeat the polishing. Doesnt take very
>>much to clean up a 22s chamber. And yes..you CAN spritz the chamber with
>>Breakfree, Triflow etc etc and shoot it wet. Something you cant do with
>>centerfires.
>
>The whole barrel or just the breech?
The whole barrel or ???
If you have sticking cases..you are simply trying to clean up the rough
chamber that is causing the brass to stick to in the barrel.
Polishing the chamber is all you are trying to do. Period. End program
The brass expands when its fired..and seals the bore and lets the
pressure build up..launching the bullet down the barrel. When the
pressure is gone..that brass case is SUPPOSED to shrink a smideon and
easily slide out of the chamber. The only reason in most cases it
doesnt..is a filthy chamber AND a rough chamber wall..IE..the inside of
the chamber is rough and holds onto the brass case. When you polish off
the machining marks..nothing remains to hold in the case.
<seal...@osama-is-dead.net> wrote:
>Gunner Asch wrote:
>
>>Take a bit of 250-400 grit sand paper (or emery cloth), and slide it
>>through your jag tip on a short section of cleaning rod. Disassemble the
>>rifle and insert the jag and 400 grit paper. Now spin it for 30 seconds
>>with an electric drill motor, moving it gently in and out of the
>>chamber. Clean with a bit of light oil on a patch, reassemble and shoot.
>>If it fails to extract again, repeat the polishing. Doesnt take very
>>much to clean up a 22s chamber. And yes..you CAN spritz the chamber with
>>Breakfree, Triflow etc etc and shoot it wet. Something you cant do with
>>centerfires.
>
The whole barrel or ???
If you have sticking cases..you are simply trying to clean up the rough
chamber that is causing the brass to stick to in the barrel.
Polishing the chamber is all you are trying to do. Period. End program
The brass expands when its fired..and seals the bore and lets the
pressure build up..launching the bullet down the barrel. When the
pressure is gone..that brass case is SUPPOSED to shrink a smideon and
easily slide out of the chamber. The only reason in most cases it
doesnt..is a filthy chamber AND a rough chamber wall..IE..the inside of
the chamber is rough and holds onto the brass case. When you polish off
the machining marks..nothing remains to hold in the case.
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