OT>Let me make this very clear right now. Re: Australian KFC AD
Arlowe
head up
There is a KFC ad running that shows a white Australian sitting amongst
a group of black people and he is supposedly very uncomfortable until
he pops up with some KFC fried chicken
How fucking egocentric can you North American wankers be???
I see everyone getting their knickers in a bunch over something they
know nothing about.
Those "black people" are West Indies cricket fans, the white bloke is
an Australian cricket fan. The West Indies are Guests in Australia this
Summer cricket season (yes it is summer in the southern hemisphere).
The ad had nothing to do with race, if it had been the Pomms (English
for you non-australian speaking people) You would have seen a bunch of
English cricket fans.
An Australian Cricket fan sitting in the West Indies Fan
Section...that's why he is uncomfortable. KFC sells fried chicken...now
everybody likes fried chicken, right?????
There's no racist intent here, NONE NADDA NIL!!!!
Now I have to put up with alot of whinging from Australians about how
stupid the yanks are... and this time they are right...
thanks for nothin'
Greendistantstar
I'm sure most of our US pals aren't on this dumbass, race-card-calling bandwagon, so let's sort that
out right from the start, eh?
This whole thing is simply flabbergasting. Aussies have ZERO awareness of this African
American/Fried Chicken concept. FFS the guys in the ad are WEST INDIAN! But the politically correct
do-gooders show their ethnocentricity and sub-textual racism by being unable to see that; to them
ALL people with black skin are the same.
99.99% of Aussies don't have a racist bone in their body, but these asswipes (and they're not only
Americans) want to brand us as racists.
Fuck them. Fuck them and their do-gooder, holier-than-thou shit.
I might just go and buy some KFC tonight in protest.
GDS
"Let's roll!"
YumYumPandaburger
wrote:
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
KFC is as racist as HP imo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=t4DT3tQqgRM).
VampX
Seems Australia is the butt of all jokes when it comes to anything
remotely rascist. We appear to be the new South Africa to the rest of
the world at the minute. I guess they need someone to dump their crap
on. I wont deny that there are rascist persons in this country. I dont
happen to be one of them, fortunately. There are those types of people
in any civilisation but it's easier if they stick their head in the
sand and pretend it doesnt exist in their own circles. Easier to blame
someone else to alleviate the guilt I suspect.
This society has become all too protected. Particularly evident with
recent changes to legislation - governments protecting the populous
with the great firewall for one. Surely parents need to take
responsibility for those things? Prices of cigarettes heading up to $20
a pack etc.. The list is a mile long. Christ, when I was a kid we ate
dirt, performed miracle feats by hanging upside down on monkey bars,
did ridiculous things on our bikes and broke all sorts of bones... and
that was just for the hell of it.
I dunno, there seems to me to be a lot wrong with everything these
days. In hindsight I'm sure glad I wasnt able to bring children into
this world. Poor sods would have to be wrapped in bubble wrap just to
go to school. To those that have them, I reckon you are pretty lucky. I
won't ever know what that is like.
This thread has also caught me on a very down energy so most likely a
lot of what I have just written is all bullshit. Take it with a grain
of salt. I guess I just give up. It's all fucked.
--
VeronicaX
-------------------------------
rct
that got stingray'd in the gut, and now this Jamie Drurie douche.
Keep yer dreck over there and we wouldn't be so quick to point out
such dumb stuff.
Thanks.
rct
Dr. Zontar
> How fucking egocentric can you North American wankers be???
You have no idea... We may be the touchiest people in the world.
> Those "black people" are West Indies cricket fans, the white bloke is
> an Australian cricket fan. The West Indies are Guests in Australia this
> Summer cricket season (yes it is summer in the southern hemisphere).
>
> The ad had nothing to do with race, if it had been the Pomms (English
> for you non-australian speaking people) You would have seen a bunch of
> English cricket fans.
>
> An Australian Cricket fan sitting in the West Indies Fan
> Section...that's why he is uncomfortable. KFC sells fried chicken...now
> everybody likes fried chicken, right?????
>
> There's no racist intent here, NONE NADDA NIL!!!!
Thanks for setting that straight. I had heard about the commercial,
but hadn't seen it.
> Now I have to put up with alot of whinging from Australians about how
> stupid the yanks are... and this time they are right...
It's really a case of cultural ignorance. Most Americans know
absolutely nothing about cricket. (I've watched a game or two, but I
didn't even know it was played outside the UK.) After reading your
post, I get the idea, and it's obviously NOT racist in the slightest.
But imagine that you didn't understand the setting. See how people
would misinterpret it?
Plus, fried chicken is part of a racial stereotype in the US. Poor
rural blacks are often portrayed as eating nothing but fried chicken
and watermelon. So, offering a dark-skinned person fried chicken is
definitely loaded with volitile racial overtones in this country.
I'm not excusing people who go off without knowing the facts - just
trying to explain WHY. Thanks for explaining the ad.
- Rich
Dr. Zontar
wrote:
> This whole thing is simply flabbergasting. Aussies have ZERO awareness of this African
> American/Fried Chicken concept.
Just as Americans know nothing about Criket. We all see things through
the prism of our own particular culture.
> 99.99% of Aussies don't have a racist bone in their body, but these asswipes (and they're not only
> Americans) want to brand us as racists.
I've NEVER thought of Aussies as racist. Ever. If anything, The US has
far more racism. Don't get me wrong, I love my country. But I read the
news.
- Rich
Mr. Green
Here in the UK we picture families of white chav's eating out at KFC
and McDonalds.
As far as race relations goes there's a lot of history there. Seems we
get on best with the other Europeans we have fought the most wars
against. We seem to have more problems with the parts of the world we
think we used to run? As for Australia, we just view them as an ex
prison colloney that seems to have a government with more common sense
than our own. I reccon a lot of Brits look upon America as a big
brother who's a bit of a bad influence at times ;-)
Green
trav...@aol.com
Welcome to hell.
ALL white people are racists. That includes you.
Anyone with any skin color is "black" and you are constantly
oppressing them.
That said, niggas does love they fried chickens
Trav
Lord Valve
Hey - black people like fried chicken all over the world.
Do y'all have watermelon down under? ;-)
Lord Valve
"Racist"
lab~rat >:-)
<drzo...@yahoo.com> puked:
>I've NEVER thought of Aussies as racist. Ever. If anything, The US has
>far more racism. Don't get me wrong, I love my country. But I read the
>news.
It's been my experience that different areas of the world have people
that behave differently, and the more civilized they are, the less
people dislike them. Maybe that's what you're talking about.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
trav...@aol.com
And the "news" of course presents a fair and accurate picture of
everything, right?
I find it amazing, the number of white people who are absolutely
convinced of massive US racism in the total absence of any evidence of
it in their own lives.
Trav
bg
Arlowe wrote in message ...
Quote -
stupid YANKEE PC
How fucking egocentric can you North American wankers be
etc.....
You seem to think that every american will interpret the commercial the same
way. This is exactly what a racist does, if one black is bad, then all
blacks are bad - - if one stupid american missed the point of the
commercial, then all americans are stupid.
Let me remind you, that we do have a half black president. The racists
voted for the white half, and the non racist voted for the black half.
Seeing as he won the electon, more americans are non racist than racist.
From this line of reasoning, I should be able to conclude that
---- all aussies get their knickers in a bunch.
---- all aussies have no reasoning abilities or social skills
---- only cricket fans allow whites and black to sit together
---- Americans are racist, therefore black americans hate themselves
---- "everybody likes fried chicken, right?????"
---- "Pomms (English for you non-australian speaking people)" Therefore,
Australians do not speak English
---- "An Australian Cricket fan sitting in the West Indies Fan
Section...that's why he is uncomfortable."
Or maybe we should all conclude that heated emotions and reasoning do not
mix?
Dr. Zontar
wrote:
> And the "news" of course presents a fair and accurate picture of
> everything, right?
Let me guess, your a Limbaugh/O'Reilly fan, right?
> I find it amazing, the number of white people who are absolutely
> convinced of massive US racism in the total absence of any evidence of
> it in their own lives.
I've never been raped. Does that mean rape doesn't exist? No one has
ever tried to kill me. Does that mean there's no violent crime?
- Rich
pboud
Wrong_Note_Rod
> On Jan 7, 1:29�pm, "travis...@aol.cominyrface" <travis...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And the "news" of course presents a fair and accurate picture of
>> everything, right?
>
> Let me guess, your a Limbaugh/O'Reilly fan, right?
Do you assume that only Limbaugh and O'Reilly are inaccurate?
I've yet to see a more biased slant on the news than NBC.
They're all very biased, in my opinion.
Wrong_Note_Rod
and i'm white, and have been assaulted by a gang of blacks, who were using
anti-white racial slurs as they beat on me, so, as far as I'm concerned,
from my experience, racism runs both ways.
Arlowe
>
> Just to add to this, Australia and the West Indies generally have an
> excellent relationship, especially when it comes to cricket (in spite
> of a couple of incidents this summer due to fuckwits like Mr Watson and
> Mr Benn). The 'journalist' (cough) who came up with this ridiculous
> 'news' story needs a foot up the arse for such nonsense.
>
> The ad in question is stupid for only one reason - the (white) chappie
> would have no cause to feel uncomfortable around a group of West Indian
> cricket fans, as they're generally far better behaved than drunken
> dickhead Aussie's after several hours in the sun on the turps. A nicer
> group you're unlikely to meet :-)
>
> Cheers.
You know that wnen I go back to work on monday they are going to take
the piss out of me over this...
Maybe I'll take some elocution lessons so I can speak like a real
aussie....maybe even better...a bloody queenslander, eh :)
rct
> and i'm white, and have been assaulted by a gang of blacks, who were using
> anti-white racial slurs as they beat on me,
Yer band doesn't count.
rct
jtees4
wrote:
"stupid YANKEE PC"
I am American and I don't have a problem with this sentence at
all...in fact I agree with you. The Yankee pC going around these days
is quite annoying to me too. It is out of control....and it's making
things worse, not better.
****
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=789610
http://www.reviewmymusicnow.com
Wrong_Note_Rod
we never shoulda played Sweet Home Alabama during Freaknik.
trav...@aol.com
That's a really pathetic guess and a really lousy argument tactic.
> I've never been raped. Does that mean rape doesn't exist? No one has
> ever tried to kill me. Does that mean there's no violent crime?
>
> - Rich
I'm not exactly sure you're any good at this argument thing.
Did I say there was "NO" racism? Please, read for comprehension in
the future before speaking.
Trav
ha4h...@kent.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me
Ditto.
Hey, canyone want to join the list? <g> That'll be the survivors then...
Nomen Nescio
> There's no racist intent here, NONE NADDA NIL!!!!
Intent has exactly nothing to do with it. In fact, it might be
*preferable* to find that the ad were race based, especially if the
genera were poking fun at stereotypes and racism. As it stands, by
your words anyway, whoever is responsible for the ad is an
incompetent git. How fucking dead from the neck up do you have to
be to produce such an obviously offensive piece of dross, and be so
oblivious?
Then again, we *are* talking about a penal colony here. It's not
exactly like a nation of dodgy crooks and dole-bludgers would be
poster boy examples of highly evolved life or anything. You're
probably too stupid as a collective to understand what's really
happening here.
Arlowe
>
> Re KFC - you'd have to pay me to eat that shit. It's gross, they're
> well past Maccas in the disgusting inedible stakes.
>
> Maybe that's why people are offended? (Noting that the '"Black people"
> like fried chicken' stereotype doesn't exist down here...)
I know, KFC isn't very good, but I do like homemade fried chicken. :)
but I luv thai better =◦D
Arlowe
> Arlowe wrote:
>
>> There's no racist intent here, NONE NADDA NIL!!!!
>
> whoever is responsible for the ad is an
> incompetent git. How fucking dead from the neck up do you have to
> be to produce such an obviously offensive piece of dross, and be so
> oblivious?
about 1/10 as much as you are.
Greendistantstar
> stereotype' that only exists over there eh...?
Exactly. The next time I hear an American sports commentator talk about 'rooting' for X, I'm gonna
complain.
How do they let them get away with such gutter talk?
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Mr. Green
wrote:
LOL very good. A strip of durex should keep their months sealed.
I regard Australia as one of the few democratic countries left which
has not gone over board on the PC band wagon and, is still willing to
say that they like their country the way it is so, don't come here and
try to change it. All power to you.
So you've got an ad that is just making a joke about the attitude of
to different groups towards each other. In this case they are cricket
supporters. Who cares if the joke is even about different races, it
happens, it happens in Britian between, the Scots and the English, the
northerns and the southerners, in even happens between two of our
local towns. As long as it's a two way thing and no one is getting
hurt then that's just life. Why do people expect perfect behaviour?
It's never happened and it never will.
Different skin colour seems to instantly make the problem worse. Not
every race with a different skin tone from the average western white
guy, has been exploited or enslaved by us in the past. May be Americas
lack of distant history makes the problem worse for them. After all,
we Brits have been invaded and exploited by most of our european
neighbours dating right back to the Italians (Romans) around 300ad
then the Germans and the French plus, William of Orange and the Danes,
then the Germans had another go. Then their was the whole empire
experience. We tried to run the world but eventually got sent packing.
I think may be all this history has been enough to at least teach us
that, different groups of people will always be suspicious of one
another. It's human nature. The ad is making a joke of something that
we all do. Sounds like the best approach to me. Surely it's better to
laugh about it.
I when on a bit there didn't I ;-)
Green
Arlowe
> On 8 Jan, 08:12, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Arlowe wrote:
>>
>>>> Nomen Nescio laid this down on his screen :
>>>>> Arlowe wrote:
>>
>>>>>> There's no racist intent here, NONE NADDA NIL!!!!
>>>>> incompetent git. How fucking dead from the neck up do you have to
>>>>> be to produce such an obviously offensive piece of dross, and be so
>>>>> oblivious?
No, no, no.
The PC nannys are here in Australia too.
but that is another story for another time...
The difference is that Australia does not share the same history as
Australia or the UK.
Slavery never existed in Australia (unless you count the Irish)
All of those symbols on "racism" that supposedly exist in the US mean
nothing here in Australia. The history is different.
How incredibly arrogant can you be to IMPOSE your history upon the rest
of the world?
How insecure can you be to feel suppressed by an ad to sell fried
chicken???
When I see this kind of bullshit I am ashamed to be from the same
nation as these idiots.
suds mcduff
> On Jan 7, 3:18 am, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
>
>> This whole thing is simply flabbergasting. Aussies have ZERO awareness of this African
>> American/Fried Chicken concept.
>
> Just as Americans know nothing about Criket. We all see things through
> the prism of our own particular culture.
>
>> 99.99% of Aussies don't have a racist bone in their body, but these asswipes (and they're not only
>> Americans) want to brand us as racists.
>
> I've NEVER thought of Aussies as racist.
----Neither did I , till I started watching "Flight of the
Conchords"....they treat Kiwis like second class citizens.....
suds mcduff
----You mean to say that peckerwoods don't eat fried chicken or watermelon?
Greendistantstar
Nah. Aussies and Kiwis, like big brother and little brother.
We take the piss out of each other mercilessly, give and take no quarter in sport, and die for each
other on the battlefield.
And they wear 'Jandals', the dopey cunts.
GDS
"Let's roll!"
YumYumPandaburger
> > do-gooders show their ethnocentricity and sub-textual racism by being unable to see that; to them
> > ALL people with black skin are the same.
>
> > Americans) want to brand us as racists.
>
>
> > I might just go and buy some KFC tonight in protest.
>
> > GDS
>
> > "Let's roll!"
>
> Welcome to hell.
>
> ALL white people are racists. That includes you.
>
> Anyone with any skin color is "black" and you are constantly
> oppressing them.
>
> That said, niggas does love they fried chickens
Mark Bedingfield
Who you calling a dopey cunt?
Mark
Greendistantstar
Chully bun empty, bro'?
:)
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Mark Bedingfield
Yeah, but the Esky is full, cobber.
Kiwi's do cop it in Aussie, but Aussies cop it in NZ too. Its like a
foreign trade policy.
Old Kiwi joke, when 1 Kiwi leaves NZ for Aussie it increases the average
IQ of both countries ;-)
Mark
Dr. Zontar
> Do you assume that only Limbaugh and O'Reilly are inaccurate?
Oh no. Not at all. At least Limbaugh and O'Reilly don't even try to be
fair. You usually know what position they're going to take before they
even open their mouths.
But I'm tired of conservatives bitching that US networks and
newspapers have a liberal agenda. It's just a smokescreen to make the
rich and powerful look like underdogs. "Ooh, they're sooo unfair -
they reported my illegal dumping of toxic waste." :Ooh, they exposed
my bribes to congressmen - they must hate America." If the mainstream
media were really as liberal as they claim, a lot more would get
reported.
- Rich
Greendistantstar
Now all ya need is some real beer to put in there!
> Kiwi's do cop it in Aussie, but Aussies cop it in NZ too. Its like a
> foreign trade policy.
Sure is.
> Old Kiwi joke, when 1 Kiwi leaves NZ for Aussie it increases the average
> IQ of both countries ;-)
I'd always heard that the other way around......;>)
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Dr. Zontar
wrote:
> I'm not exactly sure you're any good at this argument thing.
>
> Did I say there was "NO" racism? Please, read for comprehension in
> the future before speaking.
Jeez... Let me explain (I'll type slowly. Try to keep up.)
Those were intentionally absurd questions, made to point out the
absurdity of your statement. Exagerration to make a point is a common
debate technique. Other people got it. I'm sorry you didn't.
I'll put it simply. My point is this. Just because something hasn't
happened directly to you, doesn't mean that you shouldn't care about
it. If something is wrong, then it's wrong. Remember this?
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I
was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not
a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out."
- Rich
Mark Bedingfield
I have a nice slab of Boags premium, that should do. Its no Monteiths
but what the hell.
>
>> Kiwi's do cop it in Aussie, but Aussies cop it in NZ too. Its like a
>> foreign trade policy.
>
> Sure is.
>
>> Old Kiwi joke, when 1 Kiwi leaves NZ for Aussie it increases the
>> average IQ of both countries ;-)
>
> I'd always heard that the other way around......;>)
And that other thing, hmmmmmm ;-)
http://www.irb.com/rankings/full.html
Mark
Greendistantstar
Never mind...I'll send you some Cascade...about AUD$60 a slab...so that's what...about NZ$350?
>>> Kiwi's do cop it in Aussie, but Aussies cop it in NZ too. Its like a
>>> foreign trade policy.
>>
>> Sure is.
>>
>>> Old Kiwi joke, when 1 Kiwi leaves NZ for Aussie it increases the
>>> average IQ of both countries ;-)
>>
>> I'd always heard that the other way around......;>)
>
> And that other thing, hmmmmmm ;-)
>
> http://www.irb.com/rankings/full.html
Shaddup!
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Mr. Green
> Mr. Green explained on 8/01/2010 :
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 8 Jan, 08:12, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
> > wrote:
> >> Andy wrote:
> >>> Arlowe wrote:
>
> >>>> Nomen Nescio laid this down on his screen :
> >>>>> Arlowe wrote:
>
> >>>>>> There's no racist intent here, NONE NADDA NIL!!!!
> >>>>> incompetent git. How fucking dead from the neck up do you have to
> >>>>> be to produce such an obviously offensive piece of dross, and be so
> >>>>> oblivious?
>
> - Show quoted text -
Should I take "you" to mean me or did you mean they.
No shame require, we definately have plenty of idiots of our own.
Green
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....but....they ARE....
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$75nz.
>
>>>> Kiwi's do cop it in Aussie, but Aussies cop it in NZ too. Its like a
>>>> foreign trade policy.
>>>
>>> Sure is.
>>>
>>>> Old Kiwi joke, when 1 Kiwi leaves NZ for Aussie it increases the
>>>> average IQ of both countries ;-)
>>>
>>> I'd always heard that the other way around......;>)
>>
>> And that other thing, hmmmmmm ;-)
>>
>> http://www.irb.com/rankings/full.html
>
> Shaddup!
Ah lifes good. Melbourne has just secured the next Super 15's team too.
Woohoo, 2 Arse kicking rugby teams ;-)
Mark
Arlowe
The Flight of the Conchords proves it!
:P
suds mcduff
> suds mcduff wrote:
>> Dr. Zontar wrote:
>>> On Jan 7, 3:18 am, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This whole thing is simply flabbergasting. Aussies have ZERO
>>>> awareness of this African
>>>> American/Fried Chicken concept.
>>>
>>> Just as Americans know nothing about Criket. We all see things through
>>> the prism of our own particular culture.
>>>
>>>> 99.99% of Aussies don't have a racist bone in their body, but these
>>>> asswipes (and they're not only
>>>> Americans) want to brand us as racists.
>>>
>>> I've NEVER thought of Aussies as racist.
>>
>> ----Neither did I , till I started watching "Flight of the
>> Conchords"....they treat Kiwis like second class citizens.....
>
> Nah. Aussies and Kiwis, like big brother and little brother.
----Yaeh, yeah, sure, sure....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs_rXxi0zhM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoF_fa9TMDk&feature=related
suds mcduff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs_rXxi0zhM
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"bg" <b...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:hi5c1o$uq9$1...@news.xmission.com...
>
> ---- "An Australian Cricket fan sitting in the West Indies Fan
> Section...that's why he is uncomfortable."
>
The white guy in the ad is "Mick", and he features in a whole series of
cricket-related KFC ads. To even jokingly conclude that "black Australians
are not cricket fans" because the ad depicts a white Australian cricket fan
depicted is simply idiotic.
--
Lawrence
"Noooo! That's ignorant! I'm not dead. I just have a skin condition." -
Michael Jackson - 7 October 2009
Greendistantstar
Mint!
GDS
"Let's roll!"
RichL
> Andy explained :
>> Arlowe wrote:
>>
>>> Andy submitted this idea :
>>>> Arlowe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll set the story sraight before some idiot pops his stupid
>>>>> YANKEE PC head up
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a KFC ad running that shows a white Australian sitting
>>>>> amongst a group of black people and he is supposedly very
>>>>> uncomfortable until he pops up with some KFC fried chicken
>>>>>
>>>>> How fucking egocentric can you North American wankers be???
>>>>> I see everyone getting their knickers in a bunch over something
>>>>> they know nothing about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Those "black people" are West Indies cricket fans, the white
>>>>> bloke is an Australian cricket fan. The West Indies are Guests in
>>>>> Australia this Summer cricket season (yes it is summer in the
>>>>> southern hemisphere).
>>>>>
>>>>> The ad had nothing to do with race, if it had been the Pomms
>>>>> (English for you non-australian speaking people) You would have
>>>>> seen a bunch of English cricket fans.
>>>>>
>>>>> chicken...now everybody likes fried chicken, right?????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for nothin'
>>>>
>>>> ROFL.
>>>>
>>>> Just to add to this, Australia and the West Indies generally have
>>>> an excellent relationship, especially when it comes to cricket (in
>>>> spite of a couple of incidents this summer due to fuckwits like Mr
>>>> Watson and Mr Benn). The 'journalist' (cough) who came up with
>>>> this ridiculous 'news' story needs a foot up the arse for such
>>>> nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> The ad in question is stupid for only one reason - the (white)
>>>> chappie would have no cause to feel uncomfortable around a group
>>>> of West Indian cricket fans, as they're generally far better
>>>> behaved than drunken dickhead Aussie's after several hours in the
>>>> sun on the turps. A nicer group you're unlikely to meet :-)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> You know that wnen I go back to work on monday they are going to
>>> take the piss out of me over this...
>>> Maybe I'll take some elocution lessons so I can speak like a real
>>> aussie....maybe even better...a bloody queenslander, eh :)
>>
>> You have to watch out for them :-)
>>
>> Re KFC - you'd have to pay me to eat that shit. It's gross, they're
>> well past Maccas in the disgusting inedible stakes.
>>
>> Maybe that's why people are offended? (Noting that the '"Black
>> people" like fried chicken' stereotype doesn't exist down here...)
>
> I know, KFC isn't very good, but I do like homemade fried chicken. :)
> but I luv thai better =?D
Guess you guys don't have Popeye's in Australia. Still more-or-less a
fast-food place, but head and shoulders above KFC. Great onion rings,
too:
VampX
> Maybe I'll take some elocution lessons so I can speak like a real
> aussie....maybe even better...a bloody queenslander, eh :)
God no! Then you'll start sounding all Canadian like, eh k?
--
VeronicaX
-------------------------------
VampX
> I know, KFC isn't very good, but I do like homemade fried chicken. :)
> but I luv thai better =◦D
Nothin' tops a plain ol' pie n chips.... or even my favourite, the Pie
Floater. Yummmmm...
--
VeronicaX
-------------------------------
VampX
> Q: Will I be able to speak English most places I go? ( USA)
> A: Yes, but you'll have to learn it first.
Gold!
--
VeronicaX
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Les Cargill
> in the nation's capital. Scared the crap out of me at first.
>
I would not like to tangle with a 'roo.
--
Les Cargill
Greendistantstar
Generally speaking, they're very timid animals and will flee if you approach too closely. We have
plenty of them on some of our local golf courses. On rare occassions they will get aggressive, and
you really don't want one grabbing you front-on and eviscerating you with the talons on the end of
its huge legs.
The larger risk is of hitting one on a country road. Having an injured, pissed-off 'roo flailing
wildly on my lap is not my idea of a good time.
And then of course there's the ferocious Drop-Bears (not the Koala, sometimes unfortunate tourists
make that fatal mistake) who can shred a 'roo in no time flat.
I'd go surfing today but there's another half-dozen Great Whites about 50 yards off-shore.
You should come visit some time, you'd love it.
GDS
"Let's roll!"
bg
Lawrence Logic wrote in message ...
few idiots.
Arlowe
Those few idiots got alot of news coverage...
Those fuckwits painted The entire country of Australia as a bunch of
racist.
As far as I am concerned they should be taken out back and beat to
death with a hammer.
not really, but if it "did" happen the fuckwits deserved it.
of course I'm not serious.
Arlowe
I ride my kangaroo to work.
My Red can carry me, a passeger & 500kgs of cargo.
I never have a problem with the road rage nutters either...I just say
"sic 'em Bruce" and they start runnin :)
The flyers are fantastic for courier work...they even come with a
built-in mail pouch :)
yowie
> I used to get as many as 5 or 6 at a time in my small front yard, living
> in the nation's capital.
Used to live in Dickson (ACT). There were often several roos on the the
sport fields behind the College in the morning. Came down from Mt Majura
I guess. Sometimes a wallaby or two in the front yard. They would
generally clear off if you went near them. Since moving to SA I've only
seen dead ones on the roads.
Les Cargill
> Les Cargill wrote:
>> Andy wrote:
>>> Dave Malcolm wrote:
>>>
>>>> mcnewsxp wrote:
>>>> ________________
>>>>> Q: Will I be able to see kangaroos in the street? ( USA )
>>>>> A: Depends how much you've been drinking.
>>>>> __________________________________________________
>>>> Acctually the answer should be Yes. I've seen them in the next
>>>> street to where I am right now and it's in the suburbs.
>>>
>>> I used to get as many as 5 or 6 at a time in my small front yard, living
>>> in the nation's capital. Scared the crap out of me at first.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I would not like to tangle with a 'roo.
>>
>> --
>> Les Cargill
>
> Generally speaking, they're very timid animals and will flee if you
> approach too closely. We have plenty of them on some of our local golf
> courses. On rare occassions they will get aggressive, and you really
> don't want one grabbing you front-on and eviscerating you with the
> talons on the end of its huge legs.
>
> The larger risk is of hitting one on a country road. Having an injured,
> pissed-off 'roo flailing wildly on my lap is not my idea of a good time.
>
They are *strong*. Huge leg muscles. I've had relatively close
encounters with deer, and that was enough.
Roos remind me of deer, just a variation. It has to be the way
the face works. I'd love to understand how that mode of ambulation
evolved.
> And then of course there's the ferocious Drop-Bears (not the Koala,
> sometimes unfortunate tourists make that fatal mistake) who can shred a
> 'roo in no time flat.
>
> I'd go surfing today but there's another half-dozen Great Whites about
> 50 yards off-shore.
>
Hell, they're tiger and other really ugly sharks off the
Florida coast ( I ironically lived in Melbourne, Fla
for a while) - you see all kinda pictures of people
surfing over sharks. They mostly don't bother people.
They're hunting things much smaller than they are.
> You should come visit some time, you'd love it.
>
I probably would. I do gotta say - because of the mountainous
nature of it, New Zealand always appealed to me.
> GDS
>
> "Let's roll!"
>
>
>
--
Les Cargill
Les Cargill
>
> I 'tangled' with one that was a bit taller than me in a 1970 Chysler
> Valiant (very similar to the Dodge Dart and other 'A bodies' in the
> Mopar family you guys had over there) at 120Km/h head on. Not pleasant
> for either of us. The kangaroo pulled himself up off the concrete
> centre barrier and slowly dragged himself back into the bushes. Dunno
> if he survived (a lot of blood loss just into the radiator/windscreen
> of the car so probably not).
>
Aw. Poor guy.
--
Les Cargill
Lawrence�Logic
"Arlowe" <bare....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mn.4ba37da17...@gmail.com...
A better punishment would be for them to eat the batter off the KFC until
they rupture their insides (ref: South Park - The Death Of Eric Cartman
(season 9, episode 6))...
--
Lawrence
"Well, I saved you all the chicken part." - Eric Cartman - 13 April 2005
Dave Malcolm
> Dave Malcolm wrote:
>
> in the nation's capital. Scared the crap out of me at first.
>
In Canberra too, but never had 'em in the front yard.
Dave Malcolm
suds mcduff
----"I feel fine, just ashamed...."
suds mcduff
bg
Arlowe wrote in message ...
KFC and whoever wrote the commercial, should have had enough sense to
realize that the commercial could possibly be interpreted as having a racist
undertone. A person need not be racist to interpret it that way, just a bit
stupid, or as you say, an idiot. Obviously, KFC didn't intend it to be
racist, but the advertising agency, as professional communicators, should
have rewritten the commercial so that there would be no possibility that
even the dumbest person on earth would miss the intended message of the add.
In my first reply to your post, I purposely twisted your statements to show
how easy it is to come to the wrong conclusions, or misinterpret. If KFC
wants to sell chicken to the idiots and racists as well, they should have
considered how a idiots and racists might interpret their commercial. That
makes KFC the idiot. That commercial would never fly in the US because we
have our fair share of idiots and racists, but we're not all racists and
idiots.
Any respectable advertising agency would have tested that commercial before
airing it, to make sure the message of the add was not missed.
yowie
> KFC and whoever wrote the commercial, should have had enough sense to
> realize that the commercial could possibly be interpreted as having a
> racist undertone.
The ad was never meant for an American audience. There are no Americans
represented in the ad. In the market it was intended for, there *are no
racist implications*. The opinions of Americans on this subject are
irrelevant.
Bad enough that yank crap food like KFC is ubiquitous here. Worse that
(some of) you want to dictate how we market this rubbish to ourselves.
Just butt out and look after your own back yard.
Arlowe
well put.
bg
yowie wrote in message ...
Was there a bunch of Americans in Australia raisng hell because of this
commercial? If so, I have a better understanding of why Arlowe posted what
he did. I find it pretty hard to butt out when someone posts ----"How
fucking egocentric can you North American wankers be??? "Call me stupid, but
isn't that directed at North Americans? That IS my backyard. Maybe it wasn't
meant for all Americans but that's the way I took it. I don't think any
Aussies would feel any different if one of us northeren wankers insulted
Australia. I am more than willing to have a friendly insult session. It
could be fun.You guys will probably win in the end because after Steve
Irwin, and Crocodile Dundee, I'm basically out of ammunition.
yowie
> yowie wrote in message ...
>>On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:22:29 -0700, bg wrote:
>>
>>> KFC and whoever wrote the commercial, should have had enough sense to
>>> realize that the commercial could possibly be interpreted as having a
>>> racist undertone.
>>
>>The ad was never meant for an American audience. There are no Americans
>>represented in the ad. In the market it was intended for, there *are no
>>racist implications*. The opinions of Americans on this subject are
>>irrelevant.
>>
>>Bad enough that yank crap food like KFC is ubiquitous here. Worse that
>>(some of) you want to dictate how we market this rubbish to ourselves.
>>
>>Just butt out and look after your own back yard.
> I must be missing something?
Someone put the ad on youtube and a couple of Yank papers Disturbed The
Manure by conducting a poll as to whether it was racist or not. Total
media beat up. KFC Australia pulled ad because of that. Aus media added
to the beat up.
> Was there a bunch of Americans in Australia raisng hell because of this
> commercial? If so, I have a better understanding of why Arlowe posted
> what he did. I find it pretty hard to butt out when someone posts
> ----"How fucking egocentric can you North American wankers be??? "Call
> me stupid, but isn't that directed at North Americans? That IS my
> backyard. Maybe it wasn't meant for all Americans but that's the way I
> took it. I don't think any Aussies would feel any different if one of us
> northeren wankers insulted Australia.
Some of them did and it was reported here. The non-issue has disappeared
as quickly as it appeared so let's let it die.
> I am more than willing to have a
> friendly insult session.
Nah. I've said my piece.
> It could be fun.You guys will probably win in
> the end because after Steve Irwin, and Crocodile Dundee, I'm basically
> out of ammunition.
Google "yahoo Serious".
Greendistantstar
> yowie wrote in message ...
>> On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:22:29 -0700, bg wrote:
>>
>>> KFC and whoever wrote the commercial, should have had enough sense to
>>> realize that the commercial could possibly be interpreted as having a
>>> racist undertone.
>> The ad was never meant for an American audience. There are no Americans
>> represented in the ad. In the market it was intended for, there *are no
>> racist implications*. The opinions of Americans on this subject are
>> irrelevant.
>>
>> Bad enough that yank crap food like KFC is ubiquitous here. Worse that
>> (some of) you want to dictate how we market this rubbish to ourselves.
>>
>> Just butt out and look after your own back yard.
>>
>>
> I must be missing something?
> Was there a bunch of Americans in Australia raisng hell because of this
> commercial? If so, I have a better understanding of why Arlowe posted what
> he did. I find it pretty hard to butt out when someone posts ----"How
> fucking egocentric can you North American wankers be??? "Call me stupid, but
> isn't that directed at North Americans? That IS my backyard. Maybe it wasn't
> meant for all Americans but that's the way I took it.
The return serves from Aussies to the Americans should not be directed to Americans in general, of
course. The average Yank doesn't believe the average Aussie is a racist, and we we don't believe the
same of you. But the association of fried chicken and African Americans is uniquely American, and
being called 'racist' over an association that has no cultural meaning to 99.99% of Australians has
us quite flabbergasted.
> I don't think any
> Aussies would feel any different if one of us northeren wankers insulted
> Australia. I am more than willing to have a friendly insult session.
That is our national sport. Do you your best, septic!!
> It
> could be fun.You guys will probably win in the end because after Steve
> Irwin, and Crocodile Dundee, I'm basically out of ammunition.
Lol! You win the first round on that line alone ;>)
GDS
"Let's roll!"
bg
Now I understand, my apologies for letting my knickers get in a bunch!
bg
Herbert Cannon
"suds mcduff" <sudsmcd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hi86ab$59l$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Greendistantstar wrote:
>> suds mcduff wrote:
>>> Dr. Zontar wrote:
>>>> On Jan 7, 3:18 am, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This whole thing is simply flabbergasting. Aussies have ZERO awareness
>>>>> of this African
>>>>> American/Fried Chicken concept.
>>>>
>>>> Just as Americans know nothing about Criket. We all see things through
>>>> the prism of our own particular culture.
>>>>
>>>>> 99.99% of Aussies don't have a racist bone in their body, but these
>>>>> asswipes (and they're not only
>>>>> Americans) want to brand us as racists.
>>>>
>>>> I've NEVER thought of Aussies as racist.
>>>
>>> ----Neither did I , till I started watching "Flight of the
>>> Conchords"....they treat Kiwis like second class citizens.....
>>
>
> ----Yaeh, yeah, sure, sure....
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs_rXxi0zhM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoF_fa9TMDk&feature=related
> ----Politifact, factcheck, or snopes please, Dump.....not selectively
> edited looney left wing propaganda on youtube....
>
RichL
> bg wrote:
>
>>
>> yowie wrote in message ...
>>> On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:22:29 -0700, bg wrote:
>>>
>>>> KFC and whoever wrote the commercial, should have had enough sense
>>>> to realize that the commercial could possibly be interpreted as
>>>> having a racist undertone.
>>>
>>> The ad was never meant for an American audience. There are no
>>> Americans represented in the ad. In the market it was intended for,
>>> there *are no racist implications*. The opinions of Americans on
>>> this subject are irrelevant.
>>>
>>> Bad enough that yank crap food like KFC is ubiquitous here. Worse
>>> that (some of) you want to dictate how we market this rubbish to
>>> ourselves.
>>>
>>> Just butt out and look after your own back yard.
>>>
>>>
>> I must be missing something?
>
>
>> Was there a bunch of Americans in Australia raisng hell because of
>> this commercial?
>
>
> The ad had been airing for some time over here without any problems.
> Someone copied it to youtube, and some fuckwitted American media type
> started the 'racist' beatup. The funny thing is, the 'stereotype'
> people are complaining about seems to *only exist in the US*.
>
> Yet we're the 'racist' ones eh?
Be gentle, Andy. Being one myself, I can safely assert that most
Americans don't get out enough to realize that they're NOT the center of
the universe.
Wrong_Note_Rod
> On Jan 7, 3:57�pm, Wrong_Note_Rod <wrongnote...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you assume that only Limbaugh and O'Reilly are inaccurate?
>
> Oh no. Not at all. At least Limbaugh and O'Reilly don't even try to be
> fair. You usually know what position they're going to take before they
> even open their mouths.
>
> But I'm tired of conservatives bitching that US networks and
> newspapers have a liberal agenda.
BULLSHIT.
SOME OF THEM DO HAVE ONE.
oh wait, i almost fogot who I was talking to.
bg
Andy wrote in message
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...
>
>On the flipside, it's obvious that sensible Americans have a world view
>beyond the end of their nose, it's an unfortunately VERY NOISY minority
>that leads to nonsense like this.
>
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>
No doubt, the american media is total bullshit, but then again, if there
weren't enough americans watching it, the broadcasters wouldn't be in
business. Kinda scarey isn't it?
Dr. Zontar
I'm sure some do. There are obvious ones like The Village Voice, etc.
But the majority of the MAINSTREAM (as Limbaugh claims)? No f'***ing
way.
> oh wait, i almost fogot who I was talking to.
Read Project Censored's "Top 25 Censored Stories for 2009", and then
try to tell me with a straight face that the US news media is liberal.
Like I said, it's a smokescreen to try to paint conservatives (who own
the papers and networks) as it's victims.
- Rich
Wrong_Note_Rod
> On Jan 11, 12:06�pm, Wrong_Note_Rod <wrongnote...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 05:02:08 -0800 (PST), Dr. Zontar wrote:
>>> But I'm tired of conservatives bitching that US networks and
>>> newspapers have a liberal agenda.
>>
>> BULLSHIT.
>>
>> SOME OF THEM DO HAVE ONE.
>
> I'm sure some do. There are obvious ones like The Village Voice, etc.
> But the majority of the MAINSTREAM (as Limbaugh claims)? No f'***ing
> way.
>
>> oh wait, i almost fogot who I was talking to.
>
> Read Project Censored's "Top 25 Censored Stories for 2009", and then
> try to tell me with a straight face that the US news media is liberal.
We've had this argument before.
Why is it almost always liberals who deny that most of the US mainstream
news services are liberal biased?
Dont tell me you arent a liberal... i'm not gonna buy it. Notfrom what I've
seen.
RichL
> bg wrote:
>
>>
>>
<525r17-vt3.ln1@unique_and_different_just_like_everyone_else.westnet.com
.au>
>> ...
>>> RichL wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andy <no@invalid> wrote:
>
>>>>> The ad had been airing for some time over here without any
>>>>> problems. Someone copied it to youtube, and some fuckwitted
>>>>> American media type started the 'racist' beatup. The funny thing
>>>>> is, the 'stereotype' people are complaining about seems to *only
>>>>> exist in the US*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet we're the 'racist' ones eh?
>>>>
>>>> Be gentle, Andy. Being one myself, I can safely assert that most
>>>> Americans don't get out enough to realize that they're NOT the
>>>> center of the universe.
>>>
>>> Yeah, that's become apparent :-)
>>>
>>> On the flipside, it's obvious that sensible Americans have a world
>>> view beyond the end of their nose, it's an unfortunately VERY NOISY
>>> minority that leads to nonsense like this.
>
>> there weren't enough americans watching it, the broadcasters
>> wouldn't be in business. Kinda scarey isn't it?
>
> audience? My very brief experience watching TV in the US indicated
> that they could show pretty much anything and someone ends up
> watching it - and I mean _anything_ (not implying that .au TV is any
> better mind you).
It tends to gravitate toward the lowest-common denominator. So do a
large fraction of the people, apparently.
Stephen Cowell
"Wrong_Note_Rod" <wrongn...@yahoo.com> wrote
> We've had this argument before.
>
> Why is it almost always liberals who deny that most of the US mainstream
> news services are liberal biased?
The well-known problem is that reality has a
liberal bias.
__
Steve
.
Les Cargill
It has an empirical bias. So measure twice, and cut once.
--
Les Cargill
Dr. Zontar
> Why is it almost always liberals who deny that most of the US mainstream
> news services are liberal biased?
Well, I can't speak for all of them, but for me it's because new
outlets turn a blind eye to a lot of stories that should be reported,
but aren't. Again, read Project Censored's "Top 25 Censored Stories
for 2009". My theory is that these stories are withheld because
conservatives own the majority of media outlets. Follow the money...
> Dont tell me you arent a liberal... i'm not gonna buy it. Notfrom what I've
> seen.
Why would I do that? I'm a liberal, and proud of it. "Liberal" isn't a
dirty word, no matter how hard you try to make it one.
- Rich
Wrong_Note_Rod
yeah, IF YOU'RE A LIBERAL.
Like you.
Wrong_Note_Rod
> Why would I do that? I'm a liberal, and proud of it.
Like I said..... only the liberals will deny there's liberal bias in the
mainstream media.
Arent you the graphic designer who works in powerpoint a lot? or is that
somebody else? I think its you, and we have that in common, and we both
like SGs, and I'm sure it would be hella fun to throw down on some old
Sabbath with you. So dont take any of this the wrong way, I think you're
allright.
but politically, we're 180 degrees apart.
Its the american way, you know.