Steve Vai: Where the Wild Things Are
iarwain
Palladia channel last night. Now Steve Vai is not my favorite guitar
player, but I do think he is probably the most technical efficient
guitarist I've ever seen (at least for the rock style of music), and a
guy who is admirably dedicated to his instrument.
Anyway, I don't want to start a flame war here, because it seems like
if someone brings up Vai or someone else who has a lot of technical
mastery, all the Angus Young and Kurt Cobain fans come out to throw
stones. But it really did strike me watching the show that he did
play quite a few slower melodic bits (often with a lot of vibrato), so
I think the criticism that all he does is play fast is just simply
false. He does throw in his fair share of quick licks, no argument
there. In some people's eyes that disqualifies him as a good
guitarist, but I disagree. If you don't like this type of music I can
understand why, but ultimately it's a matter of taste. Different
strokes for different folks and all.
The Repair Guy
>If you don't like this type of music I can understand why,
>but ultimately it's a matter of taste.
He's a monster, and can play several types of music.
The Repair Guy
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TheChris
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Vai rocks! One of the 'complete' guitar players...I just bought one of his
Legacy heads...
Steve M. Mann
That is indeed a great special. I saw that about a week a go. He's
tremendous. Even did some acoustic bits. :)
I was very impressed. I'm into heavy guitar music, but for whatever
reason Vai has never been on my favorites list. But watching that
performance gave me a honest admiration for the guy. He's so fluid. He
truly becomes his instrument and the music. I'd highly recommend
watching this if you can catch it.
Not sure about his dancing skills though. :)
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He certainly is a tremendous player and a true musician to boot. That's a
rarity IMO. There's a lot of excellent guitar players out there that aren't
musicians.
Another guy most folks don't know about is Zakk Wylde who is a very skilled
flamenco player and a pretty good pianist. Most think he's just some wacked
out pentatonic shred freak.
Greendistantstar
Yep, Zakk is a crazily skilled, eclectic player. I heard some of his chicken pickin' stuff in the
early 90s and coulda swore it was Albert Lee. Lee's on another planet too, eh?
I never tire of this joyous, gob-smacking, Tele-heaven:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy_BuhWK3-M
GDS
"Let's roll!"
iL_weReo
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I've seen it. It's a crock of shit.
Greendistantstar
A statement only a fool would make.
Fool.
GDS
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> I happened to see "Steve Vai: Where the Wild Things Are" on the
> Palladia channel last night.
Yep, I recordificated that a couple of weeks ago. Pretty good I
suppose, but I actually have other shows of him that I like better
maybe.. IE: one of the G3's comes to mind..
But hey, the fiddle gurl was a danged hawtey, so there you
have it. They passed the audition. :)
I think the ugly mop topped fiddle boy actually played better tho..
As far as geetar prowess, yep, he's bad and nationwide.
I'm almost starting to think he's starting to surpass Satch in some
aspects..
He can crank out some obtuse stuff.. The prancing around and
constantly playing with the hair is a little fawnkey I think, but he
plays well enough that I can overlook that aspect. :/
Les Cargill
He's worked pretty hard to reinforce that stereotype.
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> > Another guy most folks don't know about is Zakk Wylde who is a very skilled
> > flamenco player and a pretty good pianist. Most think he's just some wacked
> > out pentatonic shred freak.
>
> He's worked pretty hard to reinforce that stereotype.
>
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> Les Cargill
It's where the $$$$ is for him.. I know which line I would be
standing in... :/
Les Cargill
Yep.
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iarwain
haters? Where are all the posters complaining that Vai has no feel (a
ridiculous assertion IMO)? That having technical prowess is somehow a
negative thing? Could it be the pendulumn is starting to swing back?
To the point where virtuosity is respected again? I'm amazed.
>The prancing around and constantly playing with the hair is a little fawnkey I think
I also found some of his showmanship/performance moves to be kind of
strange, and even embarassing. But I guess it's better than standing
there like a stick. At least he's trying.
I thought his singing was a little better than I remembered it, but I
didn't find any of those songs that he sang to be memorable.
RichL
> I have to admit so far I'm shocked. Where are all the Vai/Satch/shred
> haters? Where are all the posters complaining that Vai has no feel (a
> ridiculous assertion IMO)? That having technical prowess is somehow a
> negative thing? Could it be the pendulumn is starting to swing back?
> To the point where virtuosity is respected again? I'm amazed.
Maybe because you're expecting the straw man to come around and fight
back? :-)
There's a legitimate "shredder" stereotype, but Vai ain't it as far as
I'm concerned. He's obviously extremely versatile and melodic when he
wants to be. Nothing wrong with that.
iL_weReo
But can he play Nuclear Warrior is the question.
iL_weReo
Lee Waun
"Les Cargill" <lcar...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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+1 I don't care how good he is.
The image he cops just kills it for me. and he sure promotes himself with
all the signature guitars.
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>
Greendistantstar
Isn't his ability the issue, not his 'image'?
> The image he cops just kills it for me. and he sure promotes himself
> with all the signature guitars.
Were Hendrix at his peak today, he'd be the Tiger Woods of golf, with more signature stuff than you
could poke a stick at....and he'd still be Hendrix.
GDS
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I ran across this last night too. Let me just say I'm not a big fan of his.
But you can't deny his technical prowess. And I know his fans hate his being
pigeon holed into one type of playing style. But "every" time I've seen him
he's doing what he does best.........................high gain gymnastics. I
don't find anything wrong with doing what you do best. But I really don't
like the built in handle on his guitars!!!!
Steve M. Mann
Btw... here's the DVD trailer that gives a 5 minute look into the
performance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSOVTJvoQbE
Les Cargill
No. No it is not. You have two choices - exploit ability ( like
Butch Trucks does ) or play games with the image.
ZZtop did both, but they did the "ability" thing first.
>> The image he cops just kills it for me. and he sure promotes himself
>> with all the signature guitars.
>
> Were Hendrix at his peak today, he'd be the Tiger Woods of golf, with
> more signature stuff than you could poke a stick at....and he'd still be
> Hendrix.
>
Hendrix couldn't get arrested today.
> GDS
>
> "Let's roll!"
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iarwain
Read some threads from a few years back about Vai and Satriani, those
guys weren't straw men. They seemed to genuinely have a problem with
a guy who played fast. Malmsteen is probably attacked even more, but
I never cared for his playing anyway so I never cared much. But he's
free to play however he wants, even though it's not my cup of tea.
> There's a legitimate "shredder" stereotype, but Vai ain't it as far as I'm concerned.
I dont think so either, but his name has been thrown in that group
often enough.
Regarding Vai's signature guitars, I think he has some cool ones,
although I've never been tempted to buy any of them.
As for his image, some of it seems a little oily to me, but I suppose
he's doing what he thinks best as a performer/showman/businessman.
Same with the "high gain gymnastics". If you're selling yourself as a
good guitarist and people come see you, they want to be impressed.
Toward that end, and toward putting on a good show, I don't see
anything wrong with trying to throw some "wow look at that" type
moments in. Especially if you're relying on mainly instrumentals and
no singers (okay he did sing a few songs, but those are mainly filler
while the instrumentals are the substance). It's not easy to carry a
show as a guitarist only and get a lot of people to come pay see you.
So he has my respect.
Greendistantstar
Saying that you don't care how good someone is because of what you perceive their image to be is
just plain ignorant.
> ZZtop did both, but they did the "ability" thing first.
>
>>> The image he cops just kills it for me. and he sure promotes himself
>>> with all the signature guitars.
>>
>> Were Hendrix at his peak today, he'd be the Tiger Woods of golf, with
>> more signature stuff than you could poke a stick at....and he'd still be
>> Hendrix.
>>
>
> Hendrix couldn't get arrested today.
Plenty ignored Hendrix' ability back in the day because of his 'image' and today we laugh at their
ignorance.
I think you see where this is going...
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Les Cargill
> Les Cargill wrote:
<snip>
>
> I think you see where this is going...
>
No, I don't think you do...
Greendistantstar
> Greendistantstar wrote:
>> Les Cargill wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> I think you see where this is going...
>>
>
> No, I don't think you do...
Leaving aside your problems with personal pronouns, my point remains valid.
'Image' is an ephemeral thing; musos that have plenty of it but little talent generally don't last long.
You find Zakk's persona distracting? How about Buckethead? He must *really* do your head in.
But both are superlative players and musicians, and if you can't see past their 'image' then you've
missed the point.
All musicians have an 'image' even if that image is a low-key one; think JJ Cale - it just requires
some mental flexibility to get past an image you don't find attractive.
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Lu R
In the end, its all about THE MUSIC..pretend you never saw the guy and let
your ears decide his fate. Record co.'s deserve all the hell they get for
turning music into a whorehouse of "image"...I still cant get over the
"romantics" look..and the "big hair" bands..but their music wasnt all bad
either.
Lu R
The man is a true guitar legend. Only reason he isnt bigger is the record
cos who think that Miley and Britney will make them more of that filthy
money than an instrumentalist like Vai.
Les Cargill
> Les Cargill wrote:
>> Greendistantstar wrote:
>>> Les Cargill wrote:
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> I think you see where this is going...
>>>
>>
>> No, I don't think you do...
>
> Leaving aside your problems with personal pronouns, my point remains valid.
>
LOL! We're talking past each other.
> 'Image' is an ephemeral thing; musos that have plenty of it but little
> talent generally don't last long.
>
> You find Zakk's persona distracting? How about Buckethead? He must
> *really* do your head in.
>
> But both are superlative players and musicians, and if you can't see
> past their 'image' then you've missed the point.
>
Lemme restate mine: once you've gone out there as an "image"
figure in the music business, it's really hard to get back to where
you can be "serious".
If you take the path that, say ZZtop took, going from being semi-serious
to being cartoon figures in the '80s videos, people know you have it in
you. So Billy could release blues records and there was a minimum of
cognitive dissonance on the part of buyers.
If Gene Simmons tried to be a serious musician, I don't think it would
work. It might, just because there are so many KISS fans out there. But
it would probably be greeted cynically.
This doesn't mean a Zakk Wylde could not do something "serious", it
just means it's much less likely. It'd take a very hardcore information
campaign to make it marketable. Oddly enough, Knopfler would never have
that particular problem.
By way of an example, Mike Myers has an actual movie part in
"Inglourious Basterds". I think that's the first real movie part he's
ever had, after about 30 years.
Selling out is great - they all gotta do it. But it depends on *how*
you do it.
> All musicians have an 'image' even if that image is a low-key one; think
> JJ Cale - it just requires some mental flexibility to get past an image
> you don't find attractive.
>
We're not necessarily talking about my perception here... but I didn't
stress that much, did I? (speaking of missaassigned personal
pronouns...)
If Zakk 1) put out something "serious" and 2) I got hold of it and
liked it, I would say so. My point is that path dependence matters
in public perception, and he'd be climbing uphill to do that. It is
simply unlikely.
I like the heck outta what he did for Ozzy. I like it better
than the Randy Rhoads version of Ozzy. Ozzy, IMO, peaked about
"No More Tears" ( overproduction to the side).
Nil
alt.guitar:
> By way of an example, Mike Myers has an actual movie part in
> "Inglourious Basterds". I think that's the first real movie part
> he's ever had, after about 30 years.
Myers did a serious part in "54", about the New York disco.
Greendistantstar
> Greendistantstar wrote:
>> Les Cargill wrote:
>>> Greendistantstar wrote:
>>>> Les Cargill wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> I think you see where this is going...
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, I don't think you do...
>>
>> Leaving aside your problems with personal pronouns, my point remains
>> valid.
>>
>
> LOL! We're talking past each other.
Because you exchanged 'I' and 'You'.
>> 'Image' is an ephemeral thing; musos that have plenty of it but little
>> talent generally don't last long.
>>
>> You find Zakk's persona distracting? How about Buckethead? He must
>> *really* do your head in.
>>
>> But both are superlative players and musicians, and if you can't see
>> past their 'image' then you've missed the point.
>>
>
> Lemme restate mine: once you've gone out there as an "image"
> figure in the music business, it's really hard to get back to where
> you can be "serious".
That depends on many things.
> If you take the path that, say ZZtop took, going from being semi-serious
> to being cartoon figures in the '80s videos, people know you have it in
> you. So Billy could release blues records and there was a minimum of
> cognitive dissonance on the part of buyers.
>
> If Gene Simmons tried to be a serious musician, I don't think it would
> work.
It's already worked. Gene is an accomplished muso and is regarded so by his peers.
The fans? Different issue.
> It might, just because there are so many KISS fans out there. But
> it would probably be greeted cynically.
If you mean it's tricky to get a fickle public to see past a well-established persona I'd agree with
you. But if you're talking as I was about peers and other musos, I don't.
> This doesn't mean a Zakk Wylde could not do something "serious", it
> just means it's much less likely.
He could run guitar clinics dressed in a chicken suit for the rest of his life and fellow guitarists
wouldn't give a toss.
It'd take a very hardcore information
> campaign to make it marketable. Oddly enough, Knopfler would never have
> that particular problem.
It happens. The 16 year old girls who screamed for Simmons in the 70s are middle aged women now. You
market differently to them today. Knopfler is the the most over-rated guitarist in history IMHO but
that's for another time, eh?
> By way of an example, Mike Myers has an actual movie part in
> "Inglourious Basterds". I think that's the first real movie part he's
> ever had, after about 30 years.
>
> Selling out is great - they all gotta do it. But it depends on *how*
> you do it.
'Selling out' is perhaps too extreme. At one end you have the likes of Rory Gallagher who was as
rustic and unchanged as one can imagine. Then perhaps someone like Rick Neilsen of Cheap Trick. Did
Rick 'sell out' because of the persona? Maybe. It's the music that gets sold out though, not the
appearance.
>> All musicians have an 'image' even if that image is a low-key one; think
>> JJ Cale - it just requires some mental flexibility to get past an image
>> you don't find attractive.
>>
>
> We're not necessarily talking about my perception here... but I didn't
> stress that much, did I? (speaking of missaassigned personal
> pronouns...)
Well, yes you did. The opinions of fans and fellow musos are very different. Musos can and should be
able to see through the hype.
> If Zakk 1) put out something "serious" and 2) I got hold of it and
> liked it, I would say so. My point is that path dependence matters
> in public perception, and he'd be climbing uphill to do that. It is
> simply unlikely.
If you can't get past the image, you're 'just' a fan.
> I like the heck outta what he did for Ozzy. I like it better
> than the Randy Rhoads version of Ozzy. Ozzy, IMO, peaked about
> "No More Tears" ( overproduction to the side).
All my point was and is, is that 'image' is often an illusion created by either the artist/band
themselves or the marketing dept of the label. Sometimes the 'image' hides incompetence and
sometimes it hides greatness, and fellow musos tend to be able to see through the 'image' and fans
don't.
Cheers, Les
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Les Cargill
> Les Cargill wrote:
<snip>
>
> either the artist/band themselves or the marketing dept of the label.
Well, sure. Wasn't arguing that. I was arguing "what subsequent
constraints must the artist then suffer because of this?".
> Sometimes the 'image' hides incompetence and sometimes it hides
> greatness, and fellow musos tend to be able to see through the 'image'
> and fans don't.
>
Oy. "No More Tears" was 1991; 18 or 19 years ago. If Zakk was gonna
wow us with his brilliance, I figure it'da happened by now.
Nothing wrong with sideman work or what he does with Black Label
Society, but it's not of the first order.
All you and I have to work with is the evidence.
> Cheers, Les
>
> GDS
>
> "Let's roll!"
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Arlowe
> Knopfler is the most over-rated guitarist in history IMHO
> but that's for another time,
> eh?
> GDS
>
> "Let's roll!"
Most over-rated guitarists in history:
John Lennon
George Harrision
Keith Richards
Jimmy Page
Marty Freidman
Kirk Hammett
Pete Townshend
Jeff Beck
there are others...but I couldn't be bothered to list them.
The list changes depending on who you ask...
Greendistantstar
I don't know too many folk who'd put Jeff Beck in that list.
Seriously....you think Beck is *over* rated?
How could you over-rate playing such as this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbhngojbrzQ
The others, yeah... but Friedman was pretty good in the 80s.
GDS
"Let's roll!"
RichL
Lists are silly. This one especially. So's the use of the term
"overrated", generally. It's basically saying "Here's some guitarists I
don't like that much."
Arlowe
No, it is my way of saying opinions are like arseholes and when you
show yours, you can count on somebody being offended.
TheChris
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I never got Beck either - and I've gone to the trouble to track down
most of his albums - even 'Who Else!'
He's no Pat Travers :)
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Greendistantstar
I'm not sure I follow; are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?
> He's no Pat Travers :)
And Pat is no Frank Marino ;>)
GDS
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TheChris
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I don't think I'm agreeing with you.. I don't like Jeff Beck... But, I'm
assuming it's just me.... I just never got it..
I just started getting into Marino... I'm inclined to agree...
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You don't like "Guitar Shop"? It's pretty damn good... also, "There and Back"
is good.
Kevin
TheChris
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I remember Guitar Shop vividly... I don't think I've played it in
years...I'm willing to go back...
I don't know what it is... I just never got the guy.
Wrong_Note_Rod
>
> I never got Beck either - and I've gone to the trouble to track down
> most of his albums - even 'Who Else!'
>
> He's no Pat Travers :)
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heh. yeah, he's probably thankful for that......
Steve M. Mann
I'm with you. I never got into the guy either.
Mark Bedingfield
Knopfler? Overrated? Far out brussel sprout. He was my inspiration to
learn the guitar. I quickly learned that I could never play like him,
which is a good thing as I started to develop my own (lazy) style once I
worked that out.
MK is numero uno imo. he's fast, accurate, VERY distinctive and soulful.
Can't beat all that in one guitarist.
Lennon, Harrison, Page and Richards don't belong on the overrated list I
feel, Townsend maybe, but I'd agree with the rest. They fit into the
less is more category (except Page). And that can be an awesome thing.
Neil Finn is well entrenched in that style, but when I saw him I
realised how good he actually was. its not just about flash, its about
substance. I'd also add to the over-rated list;
Tommy Emanuel
Steve Vai
Joe Satriani
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Off the top of my head.
Mark
Kevin Collins
wrote:
Holy cow, man! Who *DO* you like? Have you never heard Vai's "For the love of
God" or "Tender Surrender"? How about Satch's "Always with me, always with
you?" or "Cool #9"? SRV's "Lenny" or "Riviera Paradise"? All of those songs
feature emotional, melodic playing as well as high levels of technical
proficiency and command of the instrument...
> Off the top of my head.
^with
:)
Kevin
Mark Bedingfield
(both of them), Buddy Guy, Albert Collins, JJ Cale, ...... huge list really.
I just never seem to click with Emmanuel, Vaughan, Satch or Vai. They
just don't do it for me. I can see heaps of technical ability, just
nothing that grabs me. Van Halen too for that matter.
Mark
Les Cargill
> On 1/5/2010 12:29 PM, TheChris wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't know what it is... I just never got the guy.
>
> I'm with you. I never got into the guy either.
>
They sumpin' WRONG with y'all... :) (I kid - no accounting
for taste). Jeff Beck's schtick is really effective, I do
have to say...
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Les Cargill
Dunno - Satch just writes really, really good melodies; SRV might
have been the best rhythm guitar player that ever lived and Vai is
just otherworldly accurate.
Andy Most used to do Usenet, and *his* stuff is, IMO, a lot
better than anybody listed in lots of varying ways. Past a point,
somebody's just a master and they just differ.
http://www.myspace.com/andymost
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Mark Bedingfield
That's some good stuff. Someone asked MK what he wanted to do before he
died, he replied "learn to play the guitar". I'm of the opinion there
are no masters, just those that are bloody good at it ;-)
I should have mentioned Jeff Beck too, he also doesn't grab me. I can
see his talent but it just doesn't move me.
Mark
Greendistantstar
> Arlowe wrote:
>> Greendistantstar was thinking very hard :
>>
>>> Knopfler is the most over-rated guitarist in history IMHO
>>> but that's for another time, eh?
>>
>>> GDS
>>>
>>> "Let's roll!"
>>
>> Most over-rated guitarists in history:
>>
>> John Lennon
>> George Harrision
>> Keith Richards
>> Jimmy Page
>> Marty Freidman
>> Kirk Hammett
>> Pete Townshend
>> Jeff Beck
>> there are others...but I couldn't be bothered to list them.
>>
>> The list changes depending on who you ask...
>>
>>
>
> Knopfler? Overrated? Far out brussel sprout. He was my inspiration to
> learn the guitar. I quickly learned that I could never play like him,
> which is a good thing as I started to develop my own (lazy) style once I
> worked that out.
>
> MK is numero uno imo. he's fast, accurate, VERY distinctive and soulful.
> Can't beat all that in one guitarist.
Like others have said about Beck, I've just never got the guy.
To my ears, MK almost seemed to be 'cheating', a lazy, sloppy style that would impress all my
non-guitar plaing friends but never impressed me at all.
And he wore that stupid sweat-band on his head ;>)
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Greendistantstar
Now's that's mature thinking. I believe it's really important to appreciate what you don't like.
Despite all my efforts, I just can't get into classical music. I've tried, friends have played me
endless things that they think I'll like, but it just doesn't resonate with me. But I don't call it
crap just because I don't like it. Clearly, Beethoven, Mozart and all those dudes were geniuses, but
that doesn't make their music any more appealing to my ears.
You don't like Jeff Beck? I don't get that, but I respect it.
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Les Cargill
Another perfectly valid point. It's sufficiently advanced to me to
look like magic.
> I should have mentioned Jeff Beck too, he also doesn't grab me. I can
> see his talent but it just doesn't move me.
>
heh. I ran copies of "Blow By Blow" and the Jan Hammer albums off
on reel to reel back in high school, and wore the tapes out. I
don't remember *not* listening to it.
> Mark
I think I have to get this book:
<http://www.amazon.com/This-Your-Brain-Music-Obsession/product-reviews/0525949690/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1>
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Mark Bedingfield
Lol, well said. Most of it is hocus pocus to me. Maybe they are Aliens
or from the future?
>
>> I should have mentioned Jeff Beck too, he also doesn't grab me. I can
>> see his talent but it just doesn't move me.
>>
>
> heh. I ran copies of "Blow By Blow" and the Jan Hammer albums off
> on reel to reel back in high school, and wore the tapes out. I
> don't remember *not* listening to it.
Much like me and MK. Wore tapes out of making movies, Love over gold...
hours and hours.
>
>> Mark
>
> I think I have to get this book:
> <http://www.amazon.com/This-Your-Brain-Music-Obsession/product-reviews/0525949690/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1>
Nah. I have only 1 criteria for music I listen too, "do I like it?". No
magic involved. Of the stuff I listen to, its usually a holy cow moment
for me. Dire Straits, Pink Floyd, Cream, Blind Melon, Porcupine Tree,
John Mayall. So much good stuff out there.
Mark
Mark Bedingfield
Not so much I don't like it I suppose, it just doesn't get me thinking
or excited. If its on I won't turn it off. I do listen to classical too,
mind you.
Mark
Nil
in alt.guitar:
> You don't like "Guitar Shop"? It's pretty damn good... also,
> "There and Back" is good.
My favorite is "Rough and Ready". Dynamite playing, with a crack band,
playing REAL SONGS, which are a bit scarce on most of Becks later
albums. Tons of cool guitar tones, too.
Wrong_Note_Rod
He's my favorite, pretty much, with a bunch of guys tied for really close
second place. I dig all that crazy lectronica stuff he does and have sort
of thought of getty Fruity Loops and trying a bit myself.
I know several good guitar players who hate what he's doing now, one guy
says beck lives on the whammy bar so everything sounds out of tune. Heh.
Wrong_Note_Rod
I recognize Vai and Satch are technically brilliant, and so I admire that
and respect them as musicians. But I dont like that kind of playing. I find
it pretty much boring after just a short bit. I suppose I'm more song
oriented. Eddie VanHalens playing I liked more than the others, he seemed
somehow sort of musical, or maybe just sloppier, I dont know. Plus Dave
Roth was funny. And I like funny.
Les Cargill
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:48:13 -0500, Les Cargill wrote:
>
>> Steve M. Mann wrote:
>>> On 1/5/2010 12:29 PM, TheChris wrote:
>>>
>> <snip>
>>>> I don't know what it is... I just never got the guy.
>>> I'm with you. I never got into the guy either.
>>>
>>
>> They sumpin' WRONG with y'all... :) (I kid - no accounting
>> for taste). Jeff Beck's schtick is really effective, I do
>> have to say...
>
>
> He's my favorite, pretty much, with a bunch of guys tied for really close
> second place. I dig all that crazy lectronica stuff he does
Oh yeah. "Who Else!" r00lz.
> and have sort
> of thought of getty Fruity Loops and trying a bit myself.
>
> I know several good guitar players who hate what he's doing now, one guy
> says beck lives on the whammy bar so everything sounds out of tune. Heh.
>
>
Hell, that's what I like about it. Slide *and* whammy - he can evolve
the intonation & timbre of the notes in really complex ways.
--
Les Cargill
Greendistantstar
Yup. And he is sooooo precise. This is fascinating, one of a series of interviews with his tech..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuzqjAQK4LY
GDS
"Let's roll!"
Wrong_Note_Rod
thanks for posting that, i watched a few of those videos.
nm...@wt.net
>
> > and have sort
> > of thought of getty Fruity Loops and trying a bit myself.
>
> > I know several good guitar players who hate what he's doing now, one guy
> > says beck lives on the whammy bar so everything sounds out of tune. Heh.
>
> Hell, that's what I like about it. Slide *and* whammy - he can evolve
> the intonation & timbre of the notes in really complex ways.
>
> --
> Les Cargill
Yea, I like what he's doing now better than in the old days..
Blow by Blow bored me to tears when it came out..
Some of my friends drooled over it, but not me...
I could listen to it, but to me, it seemed about as lively
as a steak with no A1.. :/ I wanted to RAWK back then,
and I still do now most of the time. His old stuff put me to
sleep..
But his new stuff seems better to me.. I liked the stuff
he did with B.B. King. I've got it recordificated somewhere..