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Grip

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Feb 6, 2012, 6:54:29 PM2/6/12
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After all these years of wishing I could, I'm ready to start. I'm 50+
been playing guitar since 14, keys since 7-8, and pickup everything
else as needed. I plan to pick it up by ear, plenty of vids, etc.
Q1: Which one is most useful to rock & blues tenor or Alto?
Q2: Is one easier to learn than the other?
Q3: How to buy.....think old Jap Squier or choice MIM for guitar, if
that makes any sense.
Q4: Is there another or better place to post this?
Thanks

Flasherly

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Feb 6, 2012, 11:31:25 PM2/6/12
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Love 'em, can't beat a judicious harmonica in a blues mix. Or sax,
though it's an instrument for many other occasions. Tenor if not a
full bodied, frog-cheeky Dizzy Gillespie, I'll hazard;. . .wouldn't
alto bring to mind thinner strains of nimbler recorder and the pied
piper? Unfortunately, the only sax player I've known, for lack better
resources, at the time was totally impressed with a girl and trying to
set up a convivial meeting. Did know a blues harp player fairly well,
though. He'd blow the ears off nightingales in one fell swoop, if
they had any;- a peculiar, most unusual talent in regarding ears, as
he could whistle, impromptu, almost as prettily as he could play a
harmonica. Eerily would be the correct term, (nobody, very few are
capable of whistling in a manner he did), a big, stoutly burly bald-
headed sort, roughed-in from a life working the Gulf oilfields, though
when he smiled there could be mistaking him for what he most loved to
do. Secondhand to advice often given for memorization aides with
guitar, in singing along to tunes as best one can while going along.
Also closely knew an accomplished accordion player with the musician's
union, who'd fallen into a lifelong habit of singing, humming whatever
he played;- sort of like a second set of bellows faintly underlying a
mechanical aspect of his instrument.

LULU

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Feb 7, 2012, 12:16:04 AM2/7/12
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This might be a good site to get an overview?

Good Luck,
Lulu : )

http://www.bargainsaxophones.com/

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dugjustdug

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Feb 7, 2012, 11:58:04 AM2/7/12
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I bought a Tenor Sax last year and have been tinkering with it.
Harder to find them, but, much more appropo for Rock, Blues, et al.
Think Clarence Clemons of E Street Band fame (RIP). I suspect Tenor
is harder to play than Alto because of the mass of air one must move.
Found mine in CraigsList locally for about $300. If I end up taking
to it, I'll definately upgrade.

BTW, a lot of Guitaristi find great inspiration in their play from Sax
solos. My personal fave, Robben Ford started out playing sax as a kid
and wishes he had never given it up.

HTH,

djd

jimmy

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Feb 7, 2012, 1:25:09 PM2/7/12
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:54:29 -0800 (PST), Grip <mbe...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Great questions. I've often thought about this myself mainly because
geetar slingers are a dime a dozen & I'd like to be more useful ;)
Way back, my kid wanted to play sax in school band. For what it's
worth, my research at the time showed that clarinets were much less
expensive & the finger and mouth work are the same or at least very
similar so, that's what she learned and actually got pretty good at
it. Judging by your multi-instrumental ability, and I have listened,
I bet you'd pick it up in a hurry anyway.

tony

jimmy

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Feb 7, 2012, 1:30:04 PM2/7/12
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Well, I've read several times that "fuzz" boxes were invented to
simulate the sax.

Tony Done

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Feb 7, 2012, 2:54:59 PM2/7/12
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"jimmy" wrote in message news:ebr2j7lvi8kl9qrf9...@4ax.com...
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I've been wondering how to get something like a sax sound out of guitar, and
have asked in this group a few times. <g> Fore years I thought that the
intro to Baker Street was a guitar, and that is the kind of sound I'm
looking for, or Sonny Landreth on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUHyNky8Q9s

Any suggestions would be welcome.

Tony D

dugjustdug

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Feb 7, 2012, 2:57:31 PM2/7/12
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On Feb 7, 10:30 am, jimmy <bigtoeh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I've read several times that "fuzz" boxes were invented to
> simulate the sax.

Must - resist - temptation - to - edit - tony's - post!!! :-)

Nil

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Feb 7, 2012, 3:14:44 PM2/7/12
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I started off my music "career" playing alto sax in the school band in
5th grade, and I quit when I was in high school. I wish I had kept up
with it - I might be pretty good by now. The guitar seemed more
appealing to me at the time (still does, really.) I think I'm really
more of a fingers guy than a lip guy.

I doubled a little bit on tenor, also flute and clarinet. I think alto
and tenor sax aren't significantly different in difficulty. Clarinet
was a lot harder for me, as the fingering is different.

Like guitar, there are a lot more entry- and mid-level (Asian-made)
horns available now than there used to be. I see them for sale on
craigslist all the time. I've been thinking of picking up an alto
myself.

notbob

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Feb 7, 2012, 4:39:59 PM2/7/12
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On 2012-02-07, jimmy <bigto...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Great questions. I've often thought about this myself mainly because
> geetar slingers are a dime a dozen & I'd like to be more useful ;)

Back in the glorious early days of REAL R&R, the sax was as prominent
as the guitar, if not more so. Guitars had yet to steal the show and
a sax was practically as necessary as bass and drums. This no doubt
due to the overabundance of out-of-work sax players from the 40s big
band era.

Here's a classic R&R tune with a sax solo anecdote as classic as the
song itself:



"Features one of the most incredibly off-key sax solo of any song of
this era."

[...]

"It all happened in an old airplane hanger that had been converted into
a recording studio in San Diego suburb of San Marcos in 1960. There
Rosie wrote the words to the group's first single in her notebook,
then crafted a melody based on chord changes to "Heart and Soul."
Saxophone player Alfred had to stay at home to cut the grass, so Tom
was given a quick lesson on the sax .With a skimpy voice Rosie sang
"Angel Baby" with the Originals providing a sparse and primitive back
up. With the drummer seemingly forgetting what track he is playing on,
flawed with flubs, and poor sound quality "Angel Baby" is undoubtedly
one of rock and roll's greatest moments"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xm3qnh1sck (about 1:40 in)



Apparently, anyone can play sax ....'cept me! I tried a sax in jr
high, but only got an eye bleeding screech dropping immediately to a
lowly goose honk. That reed thingie is no calk walk. ;)

Go ahead and try it. Can't hurt. I'm trying to fix up a banger
fiddle and try my hand at some bluegrass and cajun scrapin', having
once sawed away on a dbl bass.

nb


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jimmy

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Feb 8, 2012, 8:48:00 AM2/8/12
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Hahhaa, go for it dug!! Just in time for valentines' day too. It
might be all some of the fellas round here get!!!

jimmy

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Feb 8, 2012, 8:56:26 AM2/8/12
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On 7 Feb 2012 21:39:59 GMT, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:

>On 2012-02-07, jimmy <bigto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Great questions. I've often thought about this myself mainly because
>> geetar slingers are a dime a dozen & I'd like to be more useful ;)
>
>Back in the glorious early days of REAL R&R, the sax was as prominent
>as the guitar, if not more so. Guitars had yet to steal the show and
>a sax was practically as necessary as bass and drums. This no doubt
>due to the overabundance of out-of-work sax players from the 40s big
>band era.

That's more or less the story I read about the invention of fuzz
boxes.

>
>Here's a classic R&R tune with a sax solo anecdote as classic as the
>song itself:
>
>
>
>"Features one of the most incredibly off-key sax solo of any song of
>this era."

Holy crap...somehow that works. Could be mistaken for a violin
though.

jimmy

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Feb 8, 2012, 9:26:43 AM2/8/12
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 05:54:59 +1000, "Tony Done" <tony...@bigpond.com>
wrote:
Have you tried a standard fuzz pedal like a Boss MT-2 Tony. That's
what I'm hearing in the above clip. Light on the distortion.

tony

Flasherly

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Feb 8, 2012, 11:50:38 AM2/8/12
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On Feb 7, 4:39 pm, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>
> Back in the glorious early days of REAL R&R, the sax was as prominent
> as the guitar, if not more so. Guitars had yet to steal the show and
> a sax was practically as necessary as bass and drums. This no doubt
> due to the overabundance of out-of-work sax players from the 40s big
> band era.

Too glorious. Clapton and Page coming out of Mayall School of Guitar
for Aspiring Benders, think I've read accounts of both saying John too
much a traditionalist [for getting out from underneath] and into an
underground/countercultural movement of stigma from distorted suitcase-
amp guitar sounds the heathen, mojo-strungout darkies were playing.
That electric 12-string he used for When the Levee Breaks looks like
it was built in someone's bathtub on Planet Prehistoraeia -- an
amazing sound in transition, though, even now.

-
There were five young guys
Hanging in and out of Newcastle,
Playing Rhythm and Blues
They had nothing to lose
They didn't need that tin-pan hassle
Over the Reeperbahn where the beat was born
-Eric Burdon

Tony Done

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Feb 8, 2012, 4:04:16 PM2/8/12
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"jimmy" wrote in message news:6b15j7tgvfb9o4t4a...@4ax.com...
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Thanks. I can likely borrow a couple of fuzz pedals from my mate's music
store over the w/e and give it a try.

Might he be using compression in addition to that expected from the fuzz?

Tony D

Tony Done

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Feb 8, 2012, 4:04:59 PM2/8/12
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"Tony Done" wrote in message news:jguo0l$edp$1...@dont-email.me...
Compressor pedals is one thing I'm not short of.

Tony D

jimmy

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Feb 9, 2012, 8:55:38 AM2/9/12
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On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 07:04:59 +1000, "Tony Done" <tony...@bigpond.com>
Thinking more about this, I probably "misuse" my mt-2 in the standard
sense. I set the distortion really low and up the volume just for
sustain when fooling around with a slide. I'm sure there are other
pedals more suited for that job. Not too sure about compression. In
any case, to me, it sounds close to what sonny is doing there.

tony

Grinner

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Feb 9, 2012, 12:14:00 PM2/9/12
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have a listen to 'kinda blue' by miles davis before you rule out trumpet.

Tony Done

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Feb 9, 2012, 3:32:18 PM2/9/12
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"jimmy" wrote in message news:tqj7j71jv3n0snt3t...@4ax.com...
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I assume it's something you can get out of a Pod, visible on top of his amp.

Tony D

WeReo_BoY

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Feb 11, 2012, 12:12:29 AM2/11/12
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"Grip" <mbe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Ther'es this Asian guy who bands at the main entrance to Grand Central
Station in New York and does nothing but belt out "It's A Shame" on his sax
awl day long.

He's really wonderful.


LIEshine The DEMENT'd PERVERT

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Feb 11, 2012, 1:05:10 AM2/11/12
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Of course PiGGy LIEshine has TRIED to lure him back to the slum with
spare change so the FTA ASS PEDO SLOB can beg to have the guy fuck IT
--
"Scott Lifshine, making idiots look smart since 1984" ~Desk Rabbit 2010

Tony Done

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Feb 11, 2012, 2:32:25 PM2/11/12
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"jimmy" wrote in message news:tqj7j71jv3n0snt3t...@4ax.com...
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I borrowed an Electro Harmonix Double Muff from the shop yesterday. I'll
give it a go and report back.

Tony D

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