Painting a guitar: Any idea how this one is done?
Maximus
for. I am trying to figure out the method for painting this type of
design.
Do you start with a blue guitar and hand paint the yellow checks OR
start with a yellow guitar, pattern with masking tape then paint blue?
your thoughts appreciated...
Patrick Keenan
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You'd probably find that it would be easier to cover yellow with blue, than
blue with yellow. But it may vary with the precise paint you're using, so
it'd be best to try a sample first.
And yeah, you'll have lots of masking to do, but not so much with tape. You
might find that using a large sheet and a circle cutter is easier to deal
with. Here again, doing tests will help a lot. Perhaps something like
Frisket film will be good.
HTH
-pk
Sacramento Dave
"Maximus" <windsora...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I would spay it yellow, Then you would tape the whole guitar ( blue masking
tape ) Then layout the circles with a compass , Then the straight lines and
then you have to cut out the blue areas.Spray the blue. Then clear coat the
whole thing. It really is quiet a bit of work trying to cut the curve lines
is probably the hard part. You might be able to adapt a excato knife to the
compass. It is a pretty interesting design It would a good one to try,
remember there is always sand paper if it doesn't work out.
Maximus
piece of glass to use a base for the template - take a sharpie and
outline the body of guitar. next put on row after row of masking tape
so the sides are touching. then take a compass and mark the circles
(however many it takes to go beyond the outline. Then cut perhaps with
an exacto the circles and pull the alternating checkerboard pattern and
apply to the yellow guitar, the paint blue. I was thinking more red
and white or creme and black.
Graze
Illustrator), take the file to your local sign company and they will
cut a self adhesive vinyl mask for you.
I'd paint it yellow, apply the mask then paint blue...
Graze
Hippy
> > start with a yellow guitar, pattern with masking tape then paint blue?
> > your thoughts appreciated...
> >
> > http://usacharvels.com/charvelgallery/610614.jpg
> >
>
> I would spay it yellow, Then you would tape the whole guitar ( blue
masking
> tape ) Then layout the circles with a compass , Then the straight lines
and
> then you have to cut out the blue areas.Spray the blue. Then clear coat
the
> whole thing. It really is quiet a bit of work trying to cut the curve
lines
> is probably the hard part. You might be able to adapt a excato knife to
the
> compass. It is a pretty interesting design It would a good one to try,
> remember there is always sand paper if it doesn't work out.
>
paint the blue first. From looking at the sides, there is no other yellow
but on the front. So I would say the blue was the original base color.
What it looks like to me is the painter sprayed the whole body blue then
used regular 3/4" masking tape and by laying it side by side up and down the
length of the body, he then used a compass and drew the circles. Then taking
the exacto knife, cut and peel off the areas where you want the yellow to
be. Then spray your yellow. Wetsand down the whole thing then clearcoat the
whole body. If you spray the yellow too heavy, you will have tape lines to
deal with and no matter how much clear you lay down, you will be able to
see/feel them.
Good luck and post some pics when your done.
~Hippy
Dave Van
He's thinking red and black or some other color scheme not blue and
yellow. But if he were going to go with yellow and blue, He would not
want to try to spray yellow over blue. It would take way to many coats
to even come close to covering blue with yellow. Yes, the guitar is
mostly blue but that doesn't mean that yellow wasn't sprayed first.
If I were going to go with this color scheme, I would paint the yellow
first but not before spraying a base coat of white primer or white
paint. Yellow is truly a bitch.
Dave Van
Hippy
> He's thinking red and black or some other color scheme not blue and
> yellow. But if he were going to go with yellow and blue, He would not
> want to try to spray yellow over blue. It would take way to many coats
> to even come close to covering blue with yellow. Yes, the guitar is
> mostly blue but that doesn't mean that yellow wasn't sprayed first.
>
> If I were going to go with this color scheme, I would paint the yellow
> first but not before spraying a base coat of white primer or white
> paint. Yellow is truly a bitch.
rattle can thing makes me shiver..although the Tele copy I just finished
came out pretty cool, automotive paint or not...
~Hippy
Dave Van
I have some experience painting cars and bikes too. I also have gained
a lot of spray finishing experience in my profession as a product
designer and developer. I build a lot of models and prototypes. Yellow
has always been hard to cover darker colors with. Something about what
they need to use for pigments or whatever.
As far as using 'rattle cans' to paint a guitar... I did these a year
and a half ago for a charity auction. The designs were done by school
kids and I did the final finishing. The key is to give yourself plenty
of time to let the final clear coats dry before final wet sanding and
buffing. And to wet sand between coats to keep the finish level. I used
Krylon only to do this project.
Some folks here have seen these before:
http://www.brickgarage.com/images/123.jpg
http://www.brickgarage.com/images/321.jpg
Peace
DV
Hippy
> I have some experience painting cars and bikes too. I also have gained
> a lot of spray finishing experience in my profession as a product
> designer and developer. I build a lot of models and prototypes. Yellow
> has always been hard to cover darker colors with. Something about what
> they need to use for pigments or whatever.
>
> As far as using 'rattle cans' to paint a guitar... I did these a year
> and a half ago for a charity auction. The designs were done by school
> kids and I did the final finishing. The key is to give yourself plenty
> of time to let the final clear coats dry before final wet sanding and
> buffing. And to wet sand between coats to keep the finish level. I used
> Krylon only to do this project.
>
> Some folks here have seen these before:
>
> http://www.brickgarage.com/images/123.jpg
>
> http://www.brickgarage.com/images/321.jpg
>
> Peace
>
> DV
day job is to fix the wrecks and send them to the paint department, I do
alot of sidework where I spray my own work. I guess having access to the
booths and mix room takes away my need for rattle cans, I never would have
thought you would have gotten a finish like you did on those auction
guitars.
I'm not that sure of the technical aspects of pigments and such, but I did
paint some old style flames on a Softail last winter where I used yellow
over a black basecoat. It took an extra coat maybe , but coverage wasnt too
bad.
Is that rattle can clear as tough as the stuff I use?
~Hippy
iarwain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Lead_Series
The finish on it is cracking badly, which is apparently typical of
these guitars of that era. I've always heard that it's best to leave
the original finish on any guitar, no matter how bad it looks, because
it will hold its value better that way. I've also heard if you paint
or sand of the varnish, or use different varnish it can drastically
change the tone. The nice thing I've always thought about these
guitars is they have very nice tone, and for some reason the harmonics
come out very nicely.
So on the one hand, it would be nice to maybe try something like this
as a project and maybe end up with a really cool looking guitar. Or
maybe I would just be destroying it. I'm not sure if I will ever want
to sell it or not. I suppose they're considered somewhat rare. What
do you think I should do?
I would definitely just leave it but the cracks are where my right arm
rests and it does cause some abrading when playing. I could just sand
the cracks down a bit but maybe that would be considered destroying it
too. Decisions, decisions.
Maximus
apply a checkerboard pattern with pieces of masking tape later today.
Then I repaint the whole thing white. What makes it slightly easier is
that the guitar was white to start with so the back and sides will be
one quick coat. I am using Krylon for plastic which sticks to anything
and drys very quickly, both very important points - you'll get runs
with paint that takes too much time to set up. I'll try to post a pic
when done. (any recommendations for an easy image hosting site?)
Windsorman
Dave Van
If you're using a modern two part catalyzed finish then I doubt it. But
if you give the Krylon clear a good 3 weeks to harden, if buffs up to a
mirror shine.
Dave Van
> I have taken a white Peavey Tracer, painted the front red, and will
> apply a checkerboard pattern with pieces of masking tape later today.
> Then I repaint the whole thing white. What makes it slightly easier is
> that the guitar was white to start with so the back and sides will be
> one quick coat. I am using Krylon for plastic which sticks to anything
> and drys very quickly, both very important points - you'll get runs
> with paint that takes too much time to set up.
Runs? Not if you know how to use the stuff. A run or a sag is born
while you're spraying, not while the paint is setting up. As expert
guitar players occasionally play bum notes, the best painters will
occasionally get over zealous and let the paint run. It's no big deal,
just cut the drip off with a razor blade, sand the spot a bit and spray
again. Think this way: the best laid coats of paint are one big
controlled run!
I hate the Krylon for plastic. While it does stick to plastic better
than regular Krylon (It still not perfect in that regard) It feels soft
to me and never really hardens to the point where you can buff it out
and have the shine last. Hopefully you'll be happy with the gloss you
get right out of the can.
I'll try to post a pic
Please do!
LEE MALONE
I had an Ampeg Super Stud that I decided to paint.
Gave it to a friend of mine in the business, told him
the general idea.
What I got back was a-freakin-mazing!
Metallic blue flip-flop paint, incredible pinstriping,
layer upon layer of clearcoat. The wildest looking guitar I had ever
seen.
The best part: FREE.
jtees4
wrote:
Yellow first. Then blue. No take that back...SUNGLASSES first!
Twang
I recommend www.paintyourownguitar.com
this is 25.00 but it takes you step by step throught the painting or
repainting process..
and for a person new to this, it's probably just the ticket.
You can read about it on the website..
You have to get the right kind of paint.. and this site talks about
which is right and what works best..
you get free templates for doing fancy work.. like the van halen
guitar.. camo paint jobs. tiger paint jobs, etc..
very handy. check it out!
TWANG!
Maximus
experience. They recommending laquer rattle cans?
Maximus
laquer. I cut a hundred or so .72" squares of the high end masking
tape, used a ruler to stick them on in a straight line, but there is
still a little overspray which has crept under the tape. What tape do
the "pros" use? The guitar looks cool from 5 feet away but up close
you can see the imperfections in the checkerboard pattern. I'd like to
show you but am not sure where to post the image.
Windsorman
Thad
> I'd like to
> show you but am not sure where to post the image.
Image Shack
http://imageshack.us/
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Thad
Maximus
up close but it was a good learning experience
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