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They'd be very nice guitars, *IF* they had fret markers. But that's a
deal-breaker for me.
- Rich
- Rich
Hmmm, I think I would make some stick- on dots if that was my only worry. I
don't think that carefully applied side dots would affect the integrity of
the neck. FWIW, I like them too, but worry (probably unnecessarily) about
the glued on s/s frets.
Tony D
You know that is a good point I never thought of! Thanks.
I've thought about the fret thing, I was kind of worried about that. I
have not really heard of any horror stories with them though...maybe I
need to look harder. If one were to come off, I wonder if there is a
glue that could be bought that would work. Thanks.
You might want to read this:
http://www.guitarists.net/forum/view_bb.php?forum=2&thread=93766
I was also wondering how the tech replaces them if a refret is necessary. I
know s/s is hard, but I bet the Swedish steel they use for plain strings is
harder, and if you have a heavy touch....
Tony D
...I'd be more concerned about their composite fretboard on a
refret...what happens if/when you chip it removing the old frets?
This pick looks like they have side markers at least -
http://www.myjazzhome.com/frisell/images/parker_front.jpg
I had to get used to that with my Dan Armstrong - it's got really tiny
dots on the board, and so I use the side dots when I play it...takes
some getting used to, but not that bad once you get the habit.
--
- Rufus
Yeah, the board will be epoxy-bonded something (carbon fibre?), and the
frets will be glued on with epoxy, so how do you separate epoxy from epoxy?.
My OLP bari has small dots, like a Musicman. I've been thinking of putting
some stickers on it.
Tony D
I knew they were glued on and were stainless, I really have not heard
of any problems with them however. I may contact Parker and see what
the deal is if something were to happen, I know it's not the good old
Parker Company, but maybe they know something. Thanks.
The couple I've seen had small markers on one side of the fretboard,
well duh...only need them on one side I guess anyway. Not sure if they
all do though...I will have to check.
>On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:33:02 -0800 (PST), "Dr. Zontar"
><drzo...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>If you're used to not needing those to play they aren't a hindrance. I
>got used to not looking at the neck while on stage singing backup
>vocals and under other conditions where the lights were too bright or
>too dim to see dots. Plus, it would be easy to take some white pearl
>nail polish and skillfully put some dots on the side.
>
>Aside from all that I've played a couple Fly models and found them to
>be a little over-rated but otherwise a decent guitar especially if you
>wanted something really light.
I've been looking for pix online, and it seems some have the markers
on the side and I guess some don't. I don't generally need them, but
as you say...it's easy enough to put some on. A few years back I had
serious back problems after heart surgery (go figure). That's what
started me on my quest for lighter guitars. I bought a Steinberger, a
couple of SG's (which I've had previously and liked), a couple of
Hohner G2T's with upgraded pickups which I still have and use every
day (and like better than the Steinberger and they are lighter too!).
A Parker Fly was also on my radar, but I never pulled the trigger. Now
my back is fine....BUT I try to stick to lighter guitars just to avoid
possibly aggravating something in my back and starting all over. I
also would like one nice trem guitar, and I hear good things about the
Parker trem.
If I made a list of things I like in a guitar the Parker seems to have
everything.
*Light
*humbuckers
*piezo or equivalent
*stainless steel frets
*locking tuners
*Nice balance (problem with most SG's)
*Non floating trem or locking trem
Not saying I need all those in one particular guitar, but the Fly
seems to cover them all.
They are their own thing. If you want one, you want one. What
I expect they'd be good at is very carefully controlled
feedback. Dunno how useful the peizo would be ( assuming
that model has one ).
--
Les Cargill
I agree, I'm sure they are their own thing. I guess all my 40+ years
of playing I've always had and looked for things that were different.
My non reverse Firebird was first (and I actually preferred it over
reverse birds), to this day people will ask me...you were the guy
with the Firebird (and this was like 1977-1980ish)my main guitar for
20+years after that was a Guild SD300. Then I got into a couple of
different Yamahas, Hamers, Gibsons, Fenders etc. etc. As soon as I got
out of the hospital in 2004 I started going crazy buying and selling
guitars and gear, maybe I mentally decided I had to live my whole life
in a short time just in case. I probably have bought and sold easily
100+. Currently the only guitars I still own are 2 Hohner G2T's with
real EMG pickups, my Gibson Robot SG (see what I mean, mine had to be
different)and a Yamaha PAC620 which I don't use much because I just
don't do Strat types well and it is also a little heavy. Most of those
100+ were bought with the intention of keeping them. I always buy used
and pay the right price where I can sell for more or close to what I
paid. It's a sickness is all, but unlike some...I actually sell stuff
to make room for new gear and really don't have a lot.
I never quite got the Steinberger GL I wanted, couldn't afford
one....but I did get one of the last (maybe the last) GLB with a
Transtrem. Nice guitar but nothing great....funny thing...it was
actually quite heavy! sold it for double what I paid because they
could no longer be found. I also bought a couple of GM's, but never
bonded with them. I'm pretty sure I'll be getting a Fly soon, waiting
for the right one to come along.
Good luck with the Fly. Next time I get bit by the Steinberger bug, I
might start looking around for a knock-off Hohner or something
similar. I had a Steinberger Spirit 5 string bass that was okay
(Spirits are Korean). I never grew to love it, though, and ended up
trading it to another dude for a 5 string OLP that I like better.
Mike