Vintage Ibanez TS9 vs Current TS9s
adam79
vintage, early 80s TS9s with the JRC4558D chip really that much better
than the current, new TS9s?
Thanks,
-Adam
Squier
no.
they sound just about indentical kicked on into a cranked up tube amp.
however there is a noticeable difference between TS808 and TS9.
but 'vintage' TS9 vs newer maxon/ibanez TS9 is so slight it doesn't matter (imho)
at least playing out live.
Actually the newer Maxon ones you can swap out chip sets which
make them pretty cool. Just unplug the installed one
and plug in another chip set. (open up the pedal and inside is where
the removable chip set is)
(just be careful not to bend the little wire connectors that plug in)
Personally there are better sounding TS9's than Ibanez/Maxon.
yeah it's a classic pedal sound - but I like the ones with a tone
control that can let you honk the mids or have a more full bodied boost
and not lose so much bottom and top end.
If you want a true bargain pedal that sounds really good and
might be a better alternative -- try out Digitech Bad Monkey pedal.
it actually can be more versatile than any TS9 or TS808 and it's easily
worth the small amount you'll pay for it. good stuff. (again, imho)
Tony Done
> If you want a true bargain pedal that sounds really good and
> might be a better alternative -- try out Digitech Bad Monkey pedal.
> it actually can be more versatile than any TS9 or TS808 and it's easily
> worth the small amount you'll pay for it. good stuff. (again, imho)
I'll second that. The Boss SD-1 one is also nicer IMO than the basic
808-style pedals, presumably because of the asymmetric clipping.
Tony D
Jim
>> adam79 <ada...@toast.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi. I have a quick question about the Ibanez tube screamers.. Are the
>> vintage, early 80s TS9s with the JRC4558D chip really that much better
>> than the current, new TS9s?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Adam
>
> no.
>
> they sound just about indentical kicked on into a cranked up tube amp.
>
> however there is a noticeable difference between TS808 and TS9.
> but 'vintage' TS9 vs newer maxon/ibanez TS9 is so slight it doesn't matter (imho)
> at least playing out live.
>
> Actually the newer Maxon ones you can swap out chip sets which
> make them pretty cool. Just unplug the installed one
> and plug in another chip set. (open up the pedal and inside is where
> the removable chip set is)
> (just be careful not to bend the little wire connectors that plug in)
Unless Ibanez changed things, there isn't a socket. At least in the
original Maxon version, it's soldered in.
>
> Personally there are better sounding TS9's than Ibanez/Maxon.
> yeah it's a classic pedal sound - but I like the ones with a tone
> control that can let you honk the mids or have a more full bodied boost
> and not lose so much bottom and top end.
Here's what a TS does: Rolls off lows, gives you a control to roll off
highs.
>
> If you want a true bargain pedal that sounds really good and
> might be a better alternative -- try out Digitech Bad Monkey pedal.
> it actually can be more versatile than any TS9 or TS808 and it's easily
> worth the small amount you'll pay for it. good stuff. (again, imho)
I've owned both, and I have a definite preference for my TS9 modded to
808. But FOR THE MONEY, yeah, the Bad Monkey is hard to beat.
Squier
> Squier wrote:
> >> adam79 <ada...@toast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi. I have a quick question about the Ibanez tube screamers.. Are the
> >> vintage, early 80s TS9s with the JRC4558D chip really that much better
> >> than the current, new TS9s?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -Adam
> >
> > no.
> >
> > they sound just about indentical kicked on into a cranked up tube amp.
> >
> > however there is a noticeable difference between TS808 and TS9.
> > but 'vintage' TS9 vs newer maxon/ibanez TS9 is so slight it doesn't matter (imho)
> > at least playing out live.
> >
> > Actually the newer Maxon ones you can swap out chip sets which
> > make them pretty cool. Just unplug the installed one
> > and plug in another chip set. (open up the pedal and inside is where
> > the removable chip set is)
> > (just be careful not to bend the little wire connectors that plug in)
>
> Unless Ibanez changed things, there isn't a socket. At least in the
> original Maxon version, it's soldered in.
In the new Maxon reissues - you can change the chips.
In fact the upscale Maxon actually comes with several chip sets.
I think it runs around $250 (US). I had one but traded it for some
other gear. it came with 3 chipsets.
I am not sure of the exact name maybe Maxon reissue or Maxon whatever
but it had the TS9, TS808 and some other JC type chipset.
One gave you the classic mid boost sounds, the other was a bit more
balanced and the 3rd one gave you a really fatter type boost sound.
But in all three chipsets you still lost some bottom and top end.
>
>
> >
> > Personally there are better sounding TS9's than Ibanez/Maxon.
> > yeah it's a classic pedal sound - but I like the ones with a tone
> > control that can let you honk the mids or have a more full bodied boost
> > and not lose so much bottom and top end.
>
> Here's what a TS does: Rolls off lows, gives you a control to roll off
> highs.
>
> >
> > If you want a true bargain pedal that sounds really good and
> > might be a better alternative -- try out Digitech Bad Monkey pedal.
> > it actually can be more versatile than any TS9 or TS808 and it's easily
> > worth the small amount you'll pay for it. good stuff. (again, imho)
>
> I've owned both, and I have a definite preference for my TS9 modded to
> 808. But FOR THE MONEY, yeah, the Bad Monkey is hard to beat.
Yeah, I have been through so many TS9 and TS808 variants including the
actual Maxon one and an old darker green colored Ibanez one and when playing
live the Bad Monkey sounds just as good. However for nuance and tones that
do make a difference playing at home and studio then sure it does make a difference.
But honestly, playing live cranked up - the Bad Monkey works great and I don't
have to worry about $$$$$$ pedal on the board.
adam79
> ..there is a noticeable difference between TS808 and TS9.
are you talking about the vintage ones, or the new ones.. in what part
of the sound is there a "noticeable difference?"
Also, while talking about overdrive pedals, has anyone tried the Divided
by 13 Dyna Ranger? I watched a demo on youtube, and it sounded great. I
had never heard of that brand, until then..
Thanks,
-Adam
Elmo' 7#9
> vintage, early 80s TS9s with the JRC4558D chip really that much better
> than the current, new TS9s?
I used my TS9 for 5 years with the Texas Instruments 75558 chip it was
supplied with.
Then I read about the "magic chip", installed a socket, plugged in a JRC
4558 and...
DIDN'T LIKE IT!
It just didn't sound like My Tubescreamer any more - I'd got used to the
harder-edged distortion of the TI 75558 chip
Having said that,
I actually use it for distortion, not as a boost before an amp.
Elmo' 7#9
Jim
Divided by 13 generally translates to BIG TIME CASH.
The problem is that nobody has your ears. But I'd be saying fine tune
your amp choice before spend amp money on pedals.
IIRC, you got a cascaded 2204 but still want more gain?
The Interceptor
"Jim" <j...@askmebeforeyousend.com> wrote in message
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I've had a few similar pedals:
a) Boss Super Overdrive: hated it, thin, mid-humpy tone.
b) Bad Monkey: very good for the money, and still on my pedal board next to
some fancier stuff. Bass/treble adjustment allows the tone to be tweaked
very nicely - although a mid pot would be nice too...
c) Visual Sounds Jeckyl & Hyde: the Jeckyl side has the magic chip (I forget
the designation, but it's the TS808 one). Plenty of gain available, but I
didn't really like the tone as much as the Bad Monkey.
d) Voodoo Labs Sparkle Drive: very nice, my pick of the bunch. Best for
lower gain settings blended with some clean sound.
I find the Sparkle Drive goes really well with humbuckers and the Bad Monkey
gives weak single coils a bit of a kick along.
Brett
JJ Braunius
Adam, I don't think the difference is worth the price, lets just put
it this way.
Personally I prefer the Voodoolabs Sparkle Drive as that has clean
boost feature as well.
For the Price the YJM 308 by DOD is really hard to beat ($30).
adam79
I'll give the Sparkle Drive a try. Thanks.