Music that Changed the World
Sean
Pieces of Music That Changed the World.
Episode 19 is about "Ornithology," and the whole be-bop thing.
I suspect many in here would also especially enjoy the episode on
"Please Please Me."
It's a great radio series. Check it out:
J-Bo
> The "All That Jazz" thread brought this CBC radio series to mind: Twenty
> Pieces of Music That Changed the World.
practicing. Thanks. J-bo
johnty
Lumpy
> How did Dylan going electric change the world, exactly?
Made it possible not only for his non-fans to hate him,
but for his own fans to hate him as well.
Lumpy
In Your Ears for 40 Something Years
www.LumpyMusic.com
tafg
> Pieces of Music That Changed the World.
These things always make me smile. The only musical pieces that had
any significant effect on the world were "Charge", "Retreat" and other
music applied to battlefield communications.
Now, if you were a club owner who had just invested heavily to make
your place into a hot disco just as that craze ended, yeah, your world
might have been jostled a bit.
RichL
> How did Dylan going electric change the world, exactly?
In my opinion, it produced cross-fertilization between two vibrant
segments (folk and rock) of the musical community.
Sean
> How did Dylan going electric change the world, exactly?
>
Why don't you listen to that episode and see what the guy who made the
claim has to say in support of it?
Sean
> Twenty
>> Pieces of Music That Changed the World.
>
> These things always make me smile.
Did you listen to any of it, or did you just make up your mind what it was?
Arlowe
> How did Dylan going electric change the world, exactly?
It introduced the world to the amplified nasal.
Lumpy
> It introduced the world to the amplified nasal.
I'm thinkin' Hank Williams had that one covered already.
But Hank was in tune.
tafg
>
> Did you listen to any of it, or did you just make up your mind what it was?
>
Tell ya what. Go ask a Yanomamo tribesman in central Brazil if Be-Bop
or "Please Please Me" affected his world in any way. While you're
doing that I'll listen to this guy's - thesis.
Sean
Ok, avoid some fun. That's a good idea.
Lumpy
> Tell ya what. Go ask a Yanomamo tribesman in central Brazil if Be-Bop
> or "Please Please Me" affected his world in any way.
Well, they've surely seen it on youtube.
Arlowe
Hank Williams played acoustic while he sang Country & Nasal.
Arlowe
> ￜ
They don't know anything about music, they're too busy playing Wii
Sports to care about that shit...
Sean
> tafg wrote :
The Yanomamￜ live in northern Brazil and southern Venezuela, not central
Brazil. They've been a staple of first year anthropology courses since,
well, at least since I took first year anthropology back in the 70s, and
even then my copy of The Fierce People had been well used before I got
my hands on it.
And anyway, it's a stupid argument. "I don't want to listen to a fun and
interesting program because I am too clever and cool." That's basically it.
Me typing this sentence changes the world. Everything changes
everything. Research item for the terminally cool: interdependent
co-origination.
Consider that "world" can be used to mean "that which you experience."
Lumpy
> Consider that "world" can be used to mean "that which you experience."
The ocean waves.
The world worlds.
Sean seans.
Loosely translated from Alan Watts.
J-Bo
> These things always make me smile. The only musical pieces that had
> any significant effect on the world were "Charge", "Retreat" and other
> music applied to battlefield communications.
Man's been hearing those two tune for all of recorded history and
according to oral tradition, since before recorded history. The
historical evidence seems to imply that we will be hearing those two
tunes for the foreseeable future. How, precisely have they changed
the world?
Lumpy
>
> > These things always make me smile. The only musical pieces that had
> > any significant effect on the world were "Charge", "Retreat" and
> > other music applied to battlefield communications.
J-Bo:
> Man's been hearing those two tune for all of recorded history and
> according to oral tradition, since before recorded history. The
> historical evidence seems to imply that we will be hearing those two
> tunes for the foreseeable future. How, precisely have they changed
> the world?
Y.M.C.A. and Tequila have had a much bigger effect
than charge or retreat.
J-Bo
> Y.M.C.A. and Tequila have had a much bigger effect
> than charge or retreat.
One could argue that forcing the enemy to listen to Bob for extended
periods of time actually CAUSES charge or retreat, I suppose.
jimmy
Yeah, and I know all the words to "Tequila".
tafg
> Arlowe wrote:
> > tafg wrote :
>
> >>> Did you listen to any of it, or did you just make up your mind what
> >>> it was?
>
> >> Tell ya what. Go ask a Yanomamo tribesman in central Brazil if Be-Bop
> >> or "Please Please Me" affected his world in any way. While you're
> >> doing that I'll listen to this guy's - thesis.
>
> > They don't know anything about music, they're too busy playing Wii
> > Sports to care about that shit...
>
> Brazil. They've been a staple of first year anthropology courses since,
> well, at least since I took first year anthropology back in the 70s, and
> even then my copy of The Fierce People had been well used before I got
> my hands on it.
>
> And anyway, it's a stupid argument. "I don't want to listen to a fun and
> interesting program because I am too clever and cool." That's basically it.
>
> Me typing this sentence changes the world. Everything changes
> everything. Research item for the terminally cool: interdependent
> co-origination.
>
> Consider that "world" can be used to mean "that which you experience."
Hah! Gotcha to do some research! Good. You learned something about
the world. Oh, I'm sure I could learn something about the history and
development of music from your boy's series. But I do know that Be
Bop did not change the world. Even if you attempt to skew the results
by redefining "world." If you want to think me stupid, that's up to
you. It's been my experience that those who disagree with me are not
necessarily stupid.
Sean
> On Jan 4, 10:13 am, Sean <s...@fakemail.con> wrote:
>> Arlowe wrote:
>>> tafg wrote :
>>>>> Did you listen to any of it, or did you just make up your mind what
>>>>> it was?
>>>> Tell ya what. Go ask a Yanomamo tribesman in central Brazil if Be-Bop
>>>> or "Please Please Me" affected his world in any way. While you're
>>>> doing that I'll listen to this guy's - thesis.
>>> They don't know anything about music, they're too busy playing Wii
>>> Sports to care about that shit...
>> Brazil. They've been a staple of first year anthropology courses since,
>> well, at least since I took first year anthropology back in the 70s, and
>> even then my copy of The Fierce People had been well used before I got
>> my hands on it.
>>
>> And anyway, it's a stupid argument. "I don't want to listen to a fun and
>> interesting program because I am too clever and cool." That's basically it.
>>
>> Me typing this sentence changes the world. Everything changes
>> everything. Research item for the terminally cool: interdependent
>> co-origination.
>>
>> Consider that "world" can be used to mean "that which you experience."
>
> Hah! Gotcha to do some research! Good. You learned something about
> the world.
Well, asshole, I studied the Yanomami back in the day. I probably still
have the textbook somewhere in my house.
I find that one ends up knowing more about the world by not deciding to
ignore something interesting due to some preconceived notion.
Oh, I'm sure I could learn something about the history and
> development of music from your boy's series. But I do know that Be
> Bop did not change the world. Even if you attempt to skew the results
> by redefining "world." If you want to think me stupid, that's up to
> you.
Thank you. But just because your argument is stupid doesn't mean that
"you" are stupid.
I'm not redefining world. My definition is very common usage among
philosophers, psychologists and such people that take an interest in things.
tafg
>
> Well, asshole,
Now who's stupid?
Sean
1. I never said a person was stupid. I said his argument was stupid.
2. "Asshole" is a common form of address for someone who has just said
or done an asshole-ish thing. Which that "Hah! Gotcha to do some
research! Good. You learned something about the world" certainly was.
Lumpy
> 1. I never said a person was stupid. I said his argument was stupid.
>
> 2. "Asshole" is a common form of address for someone who has just said
> or done an asshole-ish thing.
I know plenty of stupid assholes.
I think you're just being too politically correct.
Sigh in his direction like you really mean it.
jimmy
In this part of the world, "asshole" is for life. As in, once an
asshole, always an asshole. We use "arsehole" for more isolated
situations. It's important to know these things. You wouldn't want
to call an ex-con a "goof", for example.