Places I've been:
Ireland, Scotland, England, Spain, Gibraltar, France, Germany, Italy,
Switzerland, Austria, Yugoslavia, Albania, Greece, All the european mini
countries, Morocco, Egypt, Viet Nam, Thailand, Japan, Okinawa, Wake Island,
All the Hawaiian islands, Alaska, Canada, 45 US states, Mexico (Yucatan),
Grand Bahama, Andros Island, Barbados, Bermuda, Panama, Brazil, Peru, Chile,
Ecuador.
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That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing
I can't match your travel experience, but I'll tell you what I like to
do. Just get in the car and go. With no particular destination in
mind, I'll just drive in a particular direction, sometimes for two or
three days, sometimes for much longer, and just stop at more-or-less
random places along the way. Take the back roads, and just get to know
the non-tourist-stop areas of the US a bit better.
I find the small college towns particularly interesting, and sometimes
I'll peek and see what small colleges are in the general areas that I'm
headed towards and check them out. I've found some really interesting
bands that way!
One particularly interesting trip was traveling up and down each of the
so-called finger lakes in New York. Checked out wineries along the way,
starting in Ithaca, visited Watkins Glen, etc., and drove up to the
shore of Lake Ontario, using back roads all the way, and stopped at
random villages here and there. I did the same thing in Canada, driving
first through NY state (and checking out Woodstock along the way, where
I ran into Marshall Crenshaw playing in a small club) and heading first
to Montreal and driving to Quebec City (great place!) and ultimately
through New Brunswick and down the Maine coastline.
Then there was another time when I had a conference I had to attend in
Atlanta and I started out four days before the conference and did the
same routine.
Simple pleasures, man! It may not have been glamorous in the slightest,
but for me that kind of stuff is fun!
I notice one particular omission: Australia. Well, two... Australia and New
Zealand. Two very different places but in teh same geographical area. Ok, it
is a large geographical area... ;-)
Australia has always been high in my list, for some reason. The people,
their attitude, the outdoors, the weather, the wildlife... I was even
looking into moving over there to work for a few years, but decided not to
as I think I'd miss my family (now I'm only 3h flight away, daily flights,
it's easy). But one day...
Then New Zealand... over the past few years I have met a few Kiwis and their
country seems pretty interesting too... despite the wet weather and the fact
that there's more sheep than people.
I'd love to take 8 weeks to travel around Australia and New Zealand.
So my recommendation is: DON'T GO THERE. You'd make me very very jealous ;-)
Jose
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Montauk, at the very end of Long Island (New York). Getting there is
disgusting. But once you're there, it's heaven. Go in early October.
pTooner wrote:
> Now I'm not
> talking around the world by private jet for $110,000. That might be fun,
> but I don't think I could justify that price.
You might want to look into round the world fares. Not on a private jet,
of course, but several years ago they really were a good deal, a lot
less than you'd think. You could travel to several destinations (I
forget how many, three or so I think) as long as you are always going in
the same direction, within a fixed period (I forget how long, a few
months maybe?). Once upon a time when I was a travel agent, I sent a few
people on trips like that.
<snip>
> Places I've been:
> Ireland, Scotland, England, Spain, Gibraltar, France, Germany, Italy,
> Switzerland, Austria, Yugoslavia, Albania, Greece, All the european mini
> countries, Morocco, Egypt, Viet Nam, Thailand, Japan, Okinawa, Wake Island,
> All the Hawaiian islands, Alaska, Canada, 45 US states, Mexico (Yucatan),
> Grand Bahama, Andros Island, Barbados, Bermuda, Panama, Brazil, Peru, Chile,
> Ecuador.
We should be getting travel advice from you!
One place I've been to that I loved was Tunisia. So many interesting
places to see there, from the ruins of Carthage to other Roman and
Byzantine ruins in better shape. There are lovely seaside towns like
Tabarka and Jerba. There's a pretty town near Tunis on a hill where all
the houses are whitewashed and have blue doors and you can sit in a cafe
and get great coffee or whatnot and smoke a hooka pipe. And if you
happen to be a Star Wars fan at all, you can visit the place where they
filmed the bar scene in the original movie. Interesting place, people
live underground, the houses are nice and cool in the desert heat. And
the museum in Tunis is very interesting. Along with the souks and the
various oasis
I'd love to go to New Zealand. I used to do travel for a race car team
from there, it sounds like a wonderful place and looks beautiful.
And I've thought now and then about going to India. So much to see.
Have you been to Belgium? Brussels is a beautiful city, amazing
architecture. And great fashions, the shopping there was wonderful when
I went.
You might want to look at some other Caribbean islands, they have
different characters. I went to St. John in the US Virgin Islands. It's
two thirds national park and there are some great hikes through the
rainforest and around an old sugar plantation. I'm not much of a
mountain climber at all, these weren't so bad.
Hawaii though is probably my favorite place in the world. I've only been
there once to Maui and Oahu, and would love to go back.
Have fun planning!
-Susan
I don't see Israel on your list - there is no end of things to see and
do there. Jerusalem, the Dead Sea, Masada, etc. Eilat is a beautiful,
modern resort, and the Mediterranean beaches are great up and down the
coast.
New York City is another place where there is no end of things to see
and do, and walking is a near-must.
My personal choice would be to take my wife and stay in the South of
Spain, listening to flamenco and drinking local red wine every night. I
hope to take this trip in another 10-15 years or so, knock on wood, when
the kids are hopefully on their own.
-S-
yep. large it is. certainly still here though. one thing you need to know
about oz is if you head out bush, you have to be careful & avoid the
drop-bears. deadly fuckers. generally a good guide can be found in any pub,
just ask about the drop-bears & you'll soon have all the advice you need.
apart from that our spiders, snakes, scorpions and bunyips are all pretty
much harmless - we don't have alot of poisonous creatures over here apart
from the stingrays, & you can avoid them if you don't swim. kangaroos can
regularly be seen in our cities, & emus are our main mode of transport,
particularly when it snows - which is why we have such an efficient public
transport system. oh, that's "eem-yous", we wont be having any of that
"eee-moo" shenanigans you amercans seem to deal in... if you bring any of
that shenanigans with you, you'll certainly be given the "please speak
english" look & ignored like a warm tinnie at a barbie.
and contrary to popular belief, we rarely chuck a shrimp on the barbie..
they're called prawns over here.
> Australia has always been high in my list, for some reason. The people,
- that's me!
> their attitude,
- heh, if you want it, i can get it...
> the outdoors,
- mostly unlike the indoors.
> the weather,
- that's what happens in the outdoors, mostly unpredictable, generally
either freezing cold or unbearably hot. we're talking -5 to 45 degrees
celcius here.
> the wildlife.
- just be careful of the drop-bears.
> Then New Zealand... over the past few years I have met a few Kiwis and their
> country seems pretty interesting too... despite the wet weather and the fact
> that there's more sheep than people.
kiwi sheep really are deadly. they tend to go feral in the mountains down
south & have a habit of killing mountain climbers - i believe the prime
minister was involved in a mountain sheep accident just the other day. truly
regrettable. actually very sad, it's not often one sees a politician so
openly emotional in public, but clearly Ms Clark went through alot -
condolences to her & her family, & the family of Gottlieb.
> I'd love to take 8 weeks to travel around Australia and New Zealand.
so would i. good grief! i've lived here my whole life & still havent seen
half the joint... 8 weeks...! crikey!
> So my recommendation is: DON'T GO THERE. You'd make me very very jealous ;-)
nope, come on down, we'll show you a good time! good beer, good music, good
ppl, good exchange rate... we aussies love tourists, whether showing them
around, helping them out, hell, we've even had people killed on holiday
over here... um, ah, ... clearly that's not the normal thing though...
most people get to go home ok...
hmm, maybe disneyland is a better choice...
;)
cheers,
timbo.
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Best regards,
You are quite right and it's also one of my wife's suggestions. The thing
is, Australia is really large and I'm not aware of any particular things to
see there. New Zealand is high on my list. The thing is, they're so far
away. Business class or First class is absolutely exhorbitant on that route
and tourist class (also called steerage) is really abysmal for long periods.
Tourist class from here to Australia is $1653 per person. Business class is
$14635 per person. Don't take that wrong, I appreciate the suggestion and
will likely make this trip at some point but I just wanted to point out the
problems. Anyway I'm thinking of trying to do a trip to New Zealand and
some of the South Pacific Islands at the same time. It may be that it makes
more sense to do this area on a round the world thing rather than retracing
your steps. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion.
Gerry
Thanks, it strikes me as some place I should definitely go. Any specific
things you enjoyed? How about getting around? Any tips?
Gerry
I've heard about that a while back. Sounds like I should try to find the
info again.
>
> One place I've been to that I loved was Tunisia. So many interesting
> places to see there, from the ruins of Carthage to other Roman and
> Byzantine ruins in better shape. There are lovely seaside towns like
> Tabarka and Jerba. There's a pretty town near Tunis on a hill where all
> the houses are whitewashed and have blue doors and you can sit in a cafe
> and get great coffee or whatnot and smoke a hooka pipe. And if you happen
> to be a Star Wars fan at all, you can visit the place where they filmed
> the bar scene in the original movie. Interesting place, people live
> underground, the houses are nice and cool in the desert heat. And the
> museum in Tunis is very interesting. Along with the souks and the various
> oasis
Wow, I'd have never even considered that! Thanks.
>
> I'd love to go to New Zealand. I used to do travel for a race car team
> from there, it sounds like a wonderful place and looks beautiful.
>
> And I've thought now and then about going to India. So much to see.
The thing that worries me a bit about India is that it's the sort of place
you need to go on a tour instead of alone. The worst place I ever visted
was Morocco. The reason is the beggars and peddlers just wouldn't take no
for an answer. I understand that India is very similar.
>
> Have you been to Belgium? Brussels is a beautiful city, amazing
> architecture. And great fashions, the shopping there was wonderful when I
> went.
Do you really think I'd take my wife to a place famous for fashions and
diamonds???
;-)
>
> You might want to look at some other Caribbean islands, they have
> different characters. I went to St. John in the US Virgin Islands. It's
> two thirds national park and there are some great hikes through the
> rainforest and around an old sugar plantation. I'm not much of a mountain
> climber at all, these weren't so bad.
>
> Hawaii though is probably my favorite place in the world. I've only been
> there once to Maui and Oahu, and would love to go back.
I lived there back in the sixties for a couple of years and I had a small
airplane so I went everywhere. It was a great place though.
>
> Have fun planning!
>
> -Susan
Thanks for some great suggestions.
Gerry
Gerry
Israel is a frequent topic around my place. Frankly, I'm not sure the risk
reward factor is there. It seems to be about the most dangerous place for
tourists in the world. I'd be curious to hear other thoughts on that
subject.
> New York City is another place where there is no end of things to see and
> do, and walking is a near-must.
>
> My personal choice would be to take my wife and stay in the South of
> Spain, listening to flamenco and drinking local red wine every night. I
> hope to take this trip in another 10-15 years or so, knock on wood, when
> the kids are hopefully on their own.
>
> -S-
Done those ;-) I could tell some great stories about time in Spain but this
probably isn't the place. I remember deciding to go from Cadiz to
Torremelinos (I don't remember how it's actually spelled). I bought a road
map and noticed that there was a secondary road that went almost directly
rather than taking the coastal highway probably 3 times as far. Naturally I
decided to give it a shot. The "road" finally ended in the middle of a
pasture with a bull giving me a dirty look. The beaches were great as was
the flamenco. The red wine wasn't anything to write home about.
Oh, I agree about NYC. I usually just go on a weekend to catch a show,
though. I used to live in DC and it was a quick train ride.
Gerry
>
>
My ISP's news access is being stupid today, so I'm posting this from
google as well as the "regular" way, in case the first posting never
shows up.
Basically, nothing but a huge stretch of beach on the south (Atlantic)
side.
The village of Montauk is all of 3 blocks long. There are two or
three
restaurants, all affordable enough for the locals, a couple of tackle
shops,
and a small supermarket. The seafood's amazing wherever you eat. A
buddy of
mine ended up rubbing elbows with Billy Joel on one of his visits to a
local
bar. But, the town's not a magnet for rich people like the Hamptons,
which
you'll pass through as you drive East. Mostly locals after Labor Day.
See Lake Montauk on the map? At the harbor are a couple more
restaurants,
and plenty of fishing boats, some of which you can charter. About 5
miles
east of the village is Montauk Point, where the sandy beach turns
rocky.
Great tidal pools for kids to explore.
Back in the village are a couple of inexpensive hotels right on the
beach.
I've stayed at the Royal Atlantic a few times and always been happy.
http://www.royalatlantic.com/ Amazing rates for a place right on the
beach.
In October, striped bass and bluefish begin migrating south, and if
you've
never tried surf casting, it's quite an experience. The air may be
50-60
degrees, but the water's still warm enough to be (carefully) waist
deep
while flinging 3 oz lures into the surf with an 11 foot rod.
Other than that, there's absolutely nothing to do. Perfect. The
beaches on
the south side are all public access. You could walk the 5 miles to
Montauk
Point.
Unless it costs a lot more, you'd be wise to fly into MacArthur
Airport
instead of Kennedy or LaGuardia. This way, you'll bypass driving
through two
extra hours of crap in Queens & Nassau County. Zoom out this map and
you'll
see what I mean:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=map+montauk+ny&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=image
Another option would be to take your rented car across the Long Island
Sound
via the Bridgeport/Port Jefferson ferry:
http://www.bpjferry.com/Default.aspx
The hype is just that, hype. Statistically, I'm sure you're more likely
to get mugged in LA than you are to get attacked by a terrorist in
Jerusalem. FWIW, my sister lives in Haifa and has for the last 20+
years. She moved there after college, met and married another American,
and is happily married with 3 kids, the oldest of which just graduated
high school. I was there with my wife in 1989 and again with my wife
and our two kids in 2005.
-S-
One of the best trips I ever took started in Halifax, Nova Scotia. If
you have the time, here's a few suggestions. After flying into
Boston, head up the coast to Bar Harbor. Spend a couple days in
Acadia National Park. Beautiful place. Then take the ferry from Bar
Harbor to Yarmouth, Nova Scotia. Spend a day or so driving up the
coast, all the picturesque villages and lighthouses. Spend a couple
days in Halifax, the waterfront is a great area. You can see
artifacts from the Titanic in the Marine Museum there, and across town
is a graveyard with a little over 100 of the victims. From Halifax, I
went north to Cape Breton Island and spent some time in North Sydney.
From there you can check out Cape Breton Highlands park, which is
stunningly gorgeous. Lots of wildlife. If you like scotch whiskey,
there is a great distillery on the southwest coast of Cape Breton
Island, Glen Breton. Since it's Canada, they can't call it scotch,
but it's a mighty fine single-malt whiskey no matter what you call
it. There are accomodations on site too, from inn rooms to cabins.
From North Sydney, I took the 6 hour ferry to Port-aux-Basques,
Newfoundland. From there, possibilities are many. Stephenville and
Corner Brook are great towns, and a bit farther north is possibly the
most beautiful place I've ever been, Gros Morne National Park. If you
like geology, you'll be out of your mind there. There are LOTS of
moose, and also caribou, arctic and snowshoe hares, lots of birds. A
real nature-lover's paradise. All the way up north at the tip of the
Northern Peninsula is where the Norse landed and briefly settled over
1000 years ago at L'anse-aux-Meadows. Foundations of their buildings
are visible. If you're really up for an adventure, take the Trans-
Canada Highway all the way to St. John's and you're about half-way in
between Winnipeg and Dublin. At various times of the year, even early
summer, icebergs are visible from the coast. The people are very
friendly, and sound more Scots or Irish. Needless to say the seafood
is amazing there, and some establishments are licensed to sell moose.
I had mooseburgers, they were quite yummy. You could probably fly
home from St. John's or just take a 3 hr flight to Ireland from
there. Iceland's not that far from there either.
The other unique place I went in Canada was Churchill, Manitoba. In
late fall, there are polar bear tours. I went in June, and the tundra
is alive with flowers and birds. Also mosquitos, so repellent is
suggested. Good fishing in the river up there. Neat little frontier-
type town. Can only fly in or take the train. There is a network of
roads around the town, so some exploring is possible. Don't need a
car, can probably rent a 4 wheel ATV to get around on. Most places in
town are walking distance. Several neat old forts from the 1700's
when it was a major fur-trading center for Hudson's Bay Company. In
summer, the sun sets around 10-10:30 and is up at around 3 AM.
Feel free to e-mail me for any details about any places mentioned.
Mike
Thanks Steve, that's the kind of first hand info I was looking for. If you
have any more details you'd like to share email me at gerry at geddings dot
net. Based on the above I will re-evaluate going to Israel. I know the
reasons to go, I just was worried about the reasons not to. Once you get
past 60 you aren't quite as adventurous, particularly if you're bringing
family.
Gerry
<<Places I've been:
Ireland, Scotland, England, Spain, Gibraltar, France, Germany, Italy,
Switzerland, Austria, Yugoslavia, Albania, Greece, All the european
mini
countries, Morocco, Egypt, Viet Nam, Thailand, Japan, Okinawa, Wake
Island,
All the Hawaiian islands, Alaska, Canada, 45 US states, Mexico
(Yucatan),
Grand Bahama, Andros Island, Barbados, Bermuda, Panama, Brazil, Peru,
Chile,
Ecuador.>>
And you're asking us to tell you what to do? Get a grip.
we took a 3 week cruise.
so you have to hike glaciers and enjoy the fjords.
our cruise covered the british isles, but norge was the most memorable
for it's beauty.
expen$ive place, tho, so be prepared....;^)
Thanks a bunch. I will take a look at cruises on the net.
Gerry
Yes, I guess I am. After a while it gets harder to choose places to go.
I'm looking for fresh ideas or outlooks and I have already gotten several
ideas from this thread. I'm older than most of you guys and have been a lot
of places. That doesn't mean I'm ready to give up and sit in front of the
tv.
Gerry
>
>
>> And you're asking us to tell you what to do? Get a grip.
>
> Yes, I guess I am. After a while it gets harder to choose places to
> go. I'm looking for fresh ideas or outlooks and I have already gotten
> several ideas from this thread. I'm older than most of you guys and
> have been a lot of places. That doesn't mean I'm ready to give up
> and sit in front of the tv.
>
> Gerry
Good on ya!
> Places I've been:
> Ireland, Scotland, England, Spain, Gibraltar, France, Germany, Italy,
> Switzerland, Austria, Yugoslavia, Albania, Greece, All the european mini
> countries, Morocco, Egypt, Viet Nam, Thailand, Japan, Okinawa, Wake Island,
> All the Hawaiian islands, Alaska, Canada, 45 US states, Mexico (Yucatan),
> Grand Bahama, Andros Island, Barbados, Bermuda, Panama, Brazil, Peru, Chile,
> Ecuador.
Go back to all of them that have bass-building luthiers and buy a bass
from each of them. Although that will bump up the cost a bit...
--
Mike Fleming
><snip>
>You could probably fly
>home from St. John's or just take a 3 hr flight to Ireland from
>there. Iceland's not that far from there either.
>
>Mike
I'd suggest a trip to Iceland (spent a year and a half there, back in
'71-'72). If you fling flies (aka flyfishing), you might try your
hand there. Had some buddies when I was there who went on a
dayfishing trip, rented the gear, bought the bait and lunch and all,
and sold most of their catch back to the boat owner, walking away with
more than they'd spent. They actually made a profit on the day. Don't
know if you can still do that, but the fishing's fun, anyway.
Just don't get downwind of Katy Kef! (That's the fish factory in
Keflavik.) :-)
I think my second choice would be a trip to the NW Cape of Australia
(the town of Exmouth) for some billfish on flies. Supposed to be the
best in the world.