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bassman2

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:12:54 PM11/17/09
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To quote "There are some people who can pull off the Rock 'n Roll
studly god's gift front man act and seem credible - or at least
entertaining - Mungo (Jerry) just seemed like a slightly desperate
dirty old man."

SO, which other former music star has, in your opinion, looked on
stage as a slightly desperate dirty old man / woman?

PS. AGB individual nominations don't count :-))

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Gary Rosen

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Nov 18, 2009, 3:28:44 AM11/18/09
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"bassman2" <vince_an...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> To quote "There are some people who can pull off the Rock 'n Roll
> studly god's gift front man act and seem credible - or at least
> entertaining - Mungo (Jerry) just seemed like a slightly desperate
> dirty old man."
>
> SO, which other former music star has, in your opinion, looked on
> stage as a slightly desperate dirty old man / woman?

Hasn't that been the Rolling Stones for the past 35 years? And
I'm a big Stones fan ...

- Gary Rosen


Tim

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Nov 18, 2009, 5:20:30 AM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 2:28 am, "Gary Rosen" <garymro...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "bassman2" <vince_angelon...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

10/4 on the Stones. In country, I'd save David Allen Cole. who IS a
dirty old man!

But, what was wrong with Mungo Jerry?

Misifus

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Nov 18, 2009, 10:05:54 AM11/18/09
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David Allen Coe has been a dirty old man as long as I've known him, and
that goes way back before he was ever famous. He was detestable as an
itinerant folk singer back in Akron, OH, around 1971. Oh, and he was
given to self aggrandizements then, too - he drove an old hearse with
his name in three foot tall letters on both sides. When he got to
Nashville, he tried to say he'd been on death row in Ohio. It was more
like three years for burglary.

-Raf

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Misifus-
Rafael Seibert
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Tim

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Nov 18, 2009, 12:57:25 PM11/18/09
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You're right.

IMHO, Chuck Berry would fit the catagory too.

Oci-One Kanubi

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Nov 18, 2009, 4:12:43 PM11/18/09
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And more importantly, what's so wrong about being a dirty old man?
And aren't they (we) all desperate?

SheaNC

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:05:59 PM11/18/09
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Yeah... is desperate, dirty and old such a bad thing?

Susan

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Nov 18, 2009, 11:58:45 PM11/18/09
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I went to Hippiefest two years ago. The lead acts were Eric Burden and
Jack Bruce. They switched off on who got the top spot.

The night I went, Eric had the top of the bill and it was pathetic. His
voice sounded like hell, it was more screaming than singing and he was
jumping all over stage like he thought he was 20.

Jack had the shorter set and what a shame. Jack isn't looking too good,
but boy, on stage, he was like an angel. So much passion in his voice
and playing. He moved on stage, but it was natural, not at all forced.
He was in command.

The other acts were all entertaining, but Jack blew them all away. I
wonder what makes the difference between an opening act and the thing
that makes you forget everything else? It's something we've all seen,
and I'd like to get clued in on what I have to do to get to that level.
Okay, off to bed, to work and to practice:-)

Cheers!

-Susan

Gary Rosen

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:29:24 AM11/19/09
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"SheaNC" <z...@z.net> wrote in message
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> Yeah... is desperate, dirty and old such a bad thing?

Probably describes most of the posters here.

- Gary Rosen


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Tim

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:45:02 AM11/19/09
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On Nov 18, 7:05 pm, "SheaNC" <z...@z.net> wrote:
> Yeah... is desperate, dirty and old such a bad thing?

Well, would you want to be David Allen Coe?

dusto...@mac.com

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Nov 19, 2009, 1:45:02 PM11/19/09
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On Nov 19, 2:45 am, JimmyM <m...@nnn.com> wrote:

> Wow, that's odd...I did two nights in Stuttgart with Eric

That's "hem of the garment" stuff, there. Speaking personally and
figuring the Eggman would rebuff such comments.

But, lemmee tell ya, youngsters, Eric was the first white blues
shouter I ever heard. House of the Rising Sun, recorded May '64, a USA
#1 in September '64.
Credited with being the first "folk-rock" song, and an inspiration for
Bob Dylan, whose first concert with an electric band was July of '65.

For all the mostly inferior white-boys-with-painful-constipation who
followed, "too bad".

> And he had the Animals' original guitarist
> Hilton Valentine with him at that time, but Hilton's gone now.

That House of the Rising Sun arrangement might have partly belonged to
Dave van Ronk, but Hilton's arpeggio (and sound) set the Animals
version up.
Still powerful (speaking personally) to this day.

> Eric
> doesn't sing his songs faithfully to the originals anymore, but I
> enjoyed him ;)

He was in Austin a few years ago. I missed him. Hope I get to see him
before his album title "Fuck Me, I Thought I Was Dead" title comes
true <g>.
FWIW, and encouraging others to give a listen to other Animals stuff,
including especially my favorite "Dimples", their take on a John Lee
Hooker song. Eric is great on that cut.

For me, it's the same deal as James Brown, who I saw here a couple of
months before he passed, and Bob Dylan, who was at Dell Diamond with
Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp Cougar-- if they're still able to
hit the stage, that's enough for yours truly (Brown was great and
Dylan, who can hardly speak, let alone sing, rocked his ass off, btw,
and both had bands I'm glad I got to see workin').
Wouldn't want to force any of them to be a human CD player.

> Jack Bruce IS really really good.  No doubt about it.

Another one. If I may, there was "rock bass playing before Jack
Bruce", and "after". The "Powerhouse" sides are still out there, with
Winwood and Clapton. Jack doing his own thing to fine effect, on
those.
I saw Cream in '68, Chicago. Yeah, a lot of hype and since then, a lot
of great guitar players have come along to compare Clapton to <g>. And
a lot of good/bad/indifferent "power trios" too, I guess, but I don't
recall another before them. It was kind of a war on stage, a big deal
in music at the time.

OK, grampa is going to take his afternoon nap now.
--D-y

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