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Green/Pace

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Jun 13, 2006, 2:39:28 PM6/13/06
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OK pixie, soul, playnone, bruce morgan, etc.etc.etc..

Where is the info that Rove "WILL NOT BE INDICTED"????

You are all so unbiased and fair.
Here it is 1:37 CST & not one post.

Wonder what else you will be "WRONG" about?????

HHHHMMMMMMMM.

Texas Blue


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The Librarian

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Jun 13, 2006, 4:14:19 PM6/13/06
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It ain't over till it's over. I've been missing you. Did you see who
all was going to the Bilderberger this year?

Mr Soul

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Jun 13, 2006, 5:24:40 PM6/13/06
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I saw the report today. Rove must indeed be resting easier now.

Mr Soul

Hit by a Busch

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Jun 13, 2006, 6:24:41 PM6/13/06
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who cares ... sick of the entire scummy barrel of gWb liars.

The Librarian

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Jun 13, 2006, 6:26:41 PM6/13/06
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Hit by a Busch wrote:
> who cares ... sick of the entire scummy barrel of gWb liars.

It that cause you were hit by a Bush??????

Hit by a Busch

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Jun 13, 2006, 6:41:59 PM6/13/06
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No .. I'm working towards being a Nascar fan, and Busch comes
up all the time. But I'm too skinny, and being the only 6' 6" black
dude
among 65000 fat white boys with huge hunting knifes
makes me nervous. I figure drinking a couple gallons
of this swirl a day will fatten me up and I'll be able to at least
look the part.
I've also learning redneck ebonics ... U-all be knowing Ch'a I mean
boy ?

The Librarian

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Jun 13, 2006, 6:50:59 PM6/13/06
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Rove, apparently feeling frisky after cutting a deal with Fitzgerald
getting out of legal trouble on the Plame Affair, is back to his old
habits.

Rove is, like so many Republican leaders, also a chickenhawk and a
closet-case; it's like its a job requirement:

jerk + chickenhawk + closet-case = wingnut fast track


Bush is taking the bullets, Rove is fighting the war on terror, and of
course, all good Republicans are in the trenches, sacrificing for the
nation, willing to do anything it takes.

Oh, but that's just bullshit metaphor. In fact, Bush didn't intend to
risk anything, Rove is fighting Democrats and Americans, most good
Republcians aren't sacrificing a thing, and in fact all they are
willing to do is send someone else to fight and send the bills to
someone else to pay.

The people who are able to talk about fighting without metaphor want
the non-metaphorical war to end and before more troops become dead in a
manner that isn't merely an expresssion.

The Librarian

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Jun 13, 2006, 7:03:29 PM6/13/06
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Mr Soul wrote:
> I saw the report today. Rove must indeed be resting easier now.
>
> Mr Soul

it ain't over until it's over


Two things can happen when you hear or read something that seems to
affirm what you believe, but cannot prove.

You can embrace the new information with less resistance because it
jives with your personally held belief of what is true.

Or, you can ask yourself, "Why does this sound so much like exactly
what I want to hear?" If news makes you feel good,and there are only
unnamed or a few sources for it, that is often a red flag

Was it written to appeal to me? Was it written by someone who believes
what I believe? Why is it resonating so clearly?

If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

Looking for proof is not that hard, but it feels sucky.

That's how come truthiness is such a powerful force.

Mr Soul

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Jun 13, 2006, 8:20:01 PM6/13/06
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13301765/from/RS.2/

WASHINGTON - The decision not to charge Karl Rove shows there often are
no consequences for misleading the public.

In 2003, while Rove allowed the White House to tell the news media that
he had no role in leaking Valerie Plame's CIA identity, the
presidential aide was secretly telling the FBI the truth.

It's now known that Rove had discussed Plame's CIA employment with
conservative columnist Robert Novak, who exposed her identity less than
a week later, citing two unidentified senior administration officials.

Rove's truth-telling to the FBI saved him from indictment.

And by misleading reporters, the White House saved itself from a
political liability during the 2004 presidential campaign.

While the president and the vice president underwent questioning by
Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald in 2004, Rove's role never
surfaced. The lone blip on the radar screen was a one-day flurry of
news stories the month before Election Day when Rove was brought before
a federal grand jury - one of his five grand jury appearances in the
probe.

The extent of Rove's involvement didn't become official until Oct.
28 of last year, when Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I.
Lewis Libby, was indicted on charges of perjury, obstruction and lying
to the FBI about how he learned of Plame's CIA identity and what he
told reporters about it.

The indictment recounted Rove's conversation with Novak about the CIA
officer, as Rove later related it to Libby.

...

Your IDOL, pussy! www.geocities.com/mvm55555

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Jun 13, 2006, 11:04:31 PM6/13/06
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Evidently, he got off the hook, but Libby has been sacrificed.

If past is prolougue, Rove gets to dance like that _______
ex/CEO of Healthsouth.

Life is niether fair, nor is justice always perfect. OJ's happen. mvm

timepixdc

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Jun 13, 2006, 11:43:07 PM6/13/06
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In article <ADDjg.12545$921....@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Green/Pace" <1w...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> WILL NOT BE INDICTED

Wait for the Scooter Libby trial...

Your IDOL, pussy! www.geocities.com/mvm55555

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Jun 13, 2006, 11:44:26 PM6/13/06
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Didn't al Queda's man in Iraq get whacked with _HIS_ "Spiritual
Architect"? I mean, "Leader"? George and Karl are getting thier bomb
the slow, civilized, USA way; H-I-S-T-O-R-Y....watch :-). mvm

Your IDOL, pussy! www.geocities.com/mvm55555

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Jun 13, 2006, 11:48:04 PM6/13/06
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:-) B+. You'd get an 'A' but that stupid comment the other day, dropped
your average across the board. :-) mvm

Rick N. Backer

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Jun 14, 2006, 4:39:49 AM6/14/06
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:39:28 GMT, "Green/Pace" <1w...@earthlink.net>
did courageously avow:

My understanding is the charges were dropped due to possibly not being
able to gain a conviction. It still doesn't mean his hands weren't
dirty.

--
Ken Wilson

Kramer

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Jun 14, 2006, 5:18:03 AM6/14/06
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:48:32 -0700, playun <pla...@katrina.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:39:28 GMT, "Green/Pace" <1w...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>OK pixie, soul, playnone, bruce morgan, etc.etc.etc..
>>
>>Where is the info that Rove "WILL NOT BE INDICTED"????
>

>It's all over the news... why post it here? What, you expect thinking
>people to celebrate the fact that this lying weasel is still on the job?

Look at the idiot whine!

YOU WERE WRONG


AGAIN!

Kramer

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Jun 14, 2006, 5:18:35 AM6/14/06
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On 13 Jun 2006 13:14:19 -0700, "The Librarian" <zoot...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Green/Pace wrote:
>> OK pixie, soul, playnone, bruce morgan, etc.etc.etc..
>>
>> Where is the info that Rove "WILL NOT BE INDICTED"????
>>
>> You are all so unbiased and fair.
>> Here it is 1:37 CST & not one post.
>>
>> Wonder what else you will be "WRONG" about?????
>>
>> HHHHMMMMMMMM.
>>
>> Texas Blue
>
>
>It ain't over till it's over.

It's been over for some time, you lose.

Kramer

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Jun 14, 2006, 5:18:57 AM6/14/06
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On 13 Jun 2006 14:24:40 -0700, "Mr Soul" <goo...@MusicIsLove.com>
wrote:

>I saw the report today. Rove must indeed be resting easier now.
>
>Mr Soul


Funny way to admit you were wrong.

Kramer

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Jun 14, 2006, 5:19:25 AM6/14/06
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On 13 Jun 2006 15:24:41 -0700, "Hit by a Busch"
<impeachth...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> who cares ... sick of the entire scummy barrel of gWb liars.


Another sore loser.

Kramer

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Jun 14, 2006, 5:20:15 AM6/14/06
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On 13 Jun 2006 15:50:59 -0700, "The Librarian" <zoot...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Rove, apparently feeling frisky after cutting a deal with Fitzgerald


Damn, does it always take you 3 times to admit you're a dumbass and
was wrong?

Kramer

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Jun 14, 2006, 5:22:51 AM6/14/06
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:44:26 -0700, "Your IDOL, pussy!
www.geocities.com/mvm55555"
<LouisBlack'nGeorgeCarlin/Fra...@truth.net> wrote:

Just like we'll be watching those fast russian torpedos, pal.

LOL


Nothing can fuck with this:

http://www.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=11873

Enough to make a floater leak down Wilson's shorts.

Kramer

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Jun 14, 2006, 5:23:37 AM6/14/06
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:04:31 -0700, "Your IDOL, pussy!
www.geocities.com/mvm55555"
<LouisBlack'nGeorgeCarlin/Fra...@truth.net> wrote:


>Life is niether fair, nor is justice always perfect. OJ's happen.


Is that what the judge told you before he let you off?

Kramer

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Jun 14, 2006, 5:23:54 AM6/14/06
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:43:07 -0500, timepixdc <time...@aol.comx>
wrote:


More nonsense from a moron.

Kramer

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Jun 14, 2006, 5:24:11 AM6/14/06
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You go girl!

Rick N. Backer

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Jun 14, 2006, 12:24:08 PM6/14/06
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:23:37 -0700, Kramer <kra...@nospamm.org> did
courageously avow:

Floater. Stay on topic.

--
Ken Wilson

Mr Soul

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Jun 14, 2006, 12:41:28 PM6/14/06
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> Funny way to admit you were wrong.
Wrong about what? Did I ever say that Rove was going to be indicted?
I thought that he might but I wasn't sure of it.

I think Rove is guilty as hell but if you can prove it, then you've got
no case.

Mr Soul

Kramer

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Jun 14, 2006, 7:03:09 PM6/14/06
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On 14 Jun 2006 09:41:28 -0700, "Mr Soul" <goo...@MusicIsLove.com>
wrote:


>


>I think Rove is guilty as hell but if you can prove it, then you've got
>no case.
>


You think a LOT of things.

The Librarian

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Jun 14, 2006, 7:13:30 PM6/14/06
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You're really sick. ;) I won a pair of tickets to NASCAR up near Fort
Worth so I went outta curiosity. I don't remember seeing ANY black
folk. What a complete waste of gasoline and time. The only time it was
interesting was when some race car drivers were having a near death
experience. There's something both facinating and revolting about
watching someone almost die. I guess that's what sports/war are really
all about. That death thrill.

You be watchin yore back if y'all get serious about this. Stay away
from the back end of redneck pick ups if you know what I mean,
especially if you see they've got any chain.

On the other hand, can you sing like Charlie Pride?

Mr Soul

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Jun 14, 2006, 7:35:49 PM6/14/06
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Better to think than to be brain dead.

Mr Soul

The Librarian

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Jun 14, 2006, 7:50:59 PM6/14/06
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I stand by that statement the other day. Chalabi = Jordanian
criminal/Iranian - nearly laid waste the entire Jordainian banking
system. Zarq boy = Jordanian criminal and underworld figure- Chalabi is
still around to do more damage. Rumsfeld inflated Zarqawi's importance.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200607/zarqawi
How a video-store clerk and small-time crook reinvented himself as
America's nemesis in Iraq
"If you want to understand who Zarqawi is," a former Jordanian
intelligence official had told me earlier, "you've got to
understand the four major turning points in his life: his first trip to
Afghanistan; then the prison years [from 1993 to 1999]; then his return
to Afghanistan, when he really came into his own; and then Iraq." He
thought for a moment. "And, of course, the creativity of the
Americans."

At least five times, in 2000 and 2001, bin Laden called al-Zarqawi to
come to Kandahar and pay bayat-take an oath of allegiance-to him.
Each time, al-Zarqawi refused. Under no circumstances did he want to
become involved in the battle between the Northern Alliance and the
Taliban. He also did not believe that either bin Laden or the Taliban
was serious enough about jihad.

When the United States launched its air war inside Afghanistan, on
October 7, 2001, al-Zarqawi joined forces with al-Qaeda and the Taliban
for the first time. He and his Jund al-Sham fought in and around Herat
and Kandahar. Al-Zarqawi was wounded in an American air strike-not in
the leg, as U.S. officials claimed for two years, but in the chest,
when the ceiling of the building in which he was operating collapsed on
him. Neither did he join Osama bin Laden in the eastern mountains of
Tora Bora, as U.S. officials have also said. Bin Laden took only his
most trusted fighters to Tora Bora, and al-Zarqawi was not one of them.

One can only imagine how astonished al-Zarqawi must have been when
Colin Powell named him as the crucial link between al-Qaeda and Saddam
Hussein's regime. He was not even officially a part of al-Qaeda, and
ever since he had left Afghanistan, his links had been not to Iraq but
to Iran.

"We know Zarqawi better than he knows himself," the high-level
Jordanian intelligence official said. "And I can assure you that he
never had any links to Saddam. Iran is quite a different matter. The
Iranians have a policy: they want to control Iraq. And part of this
policy has been to support Zarqawi, tactically but not
strategically."

"Even then-and even more so now-Zarqawi was not the main force in
the insurgency," the former Jordanian intelligence official, who has
studied al-Zarqawi for a decade, told me. "To establish himself, he
carried out the Muhammad Hakim operation, and the attack against the
UN. Both of them gained a lot of support for him-with the tribes,
with Saddam's army and other remnants of his regime. They made
Zarqawi the symbol of the resistance in Iraq, but not the leader. And
he never has been."

He continued, "The Americans have been patently stupid in all of
this. They've blown Zarqawi so out of proportion that, of course, his
prestige has grown. And as a result, sleeper cells from all over Europe
are coming to join him now." He paused for a moment, then said,
"Your government is creating a self-fulfilling prophecy."

Western and Israeli diplomats to whom I spoke shared this view-and
this past April, The Washington Post reported on Pentagon documents
that detailed a U.S. military propaganda campaign to inflate
al-Zarqawi's importance. Then, the following month, the military
appeared to attempt to reverse field and portray al-Zarqawi as an
incompetent who could not even handle a gun. But by then his image in
the Muslim world was set.


D uring my time in Jordan, I asked a number of officials what they
considered to be the most curious aspect of the relationship between
the U.S. and al-Zarqawi, other than the fact that the Bush
administration had inflated him.

One of them said, "The six times you could have killed Zarqawi, and
you didn't."

When Powell addressed the United Nations, he discussed the Ansar
al-Islam camp near Khurmal, in northern Kurdistan, which he claimed was
producing ricin and where al-Zarqawi was then based. On at least three
occasions, between mid-2002 and the invasion of Iraq the following
March, the Pentagon presented plans to the White House to destroy the
Khurmal camp, according to a report published by The Wall Street
Journal in October 2004. The White House either declined or simply
ignored the request.

More recently, three times during the past year, the Jordanian
intelligence service, which has a close liaison relationship with the
CIA, provided the United States with information on al-Zarqawi's
whereabouts-first in Mosul, then in Ramadi. Each time, the Americans
arrived too late.

After I returned from Jordan, in mid-March, what had appeared to be a
growing challenge to al-Zarqawi from local Sunni insurgent groups,
which had reportedly expelled hundreds of his fighters from the
troubled western province of al-Anbar alone, seemed to have been put
aside. The upsurge in Sunni-Shiite killings, as the result of the
February bombing of Samarra's Askariya Shrine (one of Shia Islam's
holiest sites), had led, at least for the moment, to a newfound unity
between al-Zarqawi and the Sunni insurgency. Then, in early April,
Huthaifa Azzam announced that the "Iraqi resistance's high
command" had stripped al-Zarqawi of his political role and relegated
him to military operations. It was the second time that al-Zarqawi's
profile had seemingly been lowered-or that he had lowered it-this
year. The first had come in January, when it was announced that
al-Qaeda in Iraq had joined five other Sunni insurgent groups to form a
coalition called the Mujahideen Shura Council. By early May, U.S.
counterterrorism analysts were still puzzling over what the two events
meant and what changes they could portend.

Before leaving Amman, three months before al-Zarqawi's death, I had
asked the high-level Jordanian intelligence official with whom I met
whether al-Zarqawi, in his view, was a potential challenger to Osama
bin Laden.

"Not at all," he replied. "Zarqawi had the ambition to become
what he has, but whatever happens, even if he becomes the most popular
figure in Iraq, he can never go against the symbolism that bin Laden
represents. If Zarqawi is captured or killed tomorrow, the Iraqi
insurgency will go on. There is no such thing as 'Zarqawism.' What
Zarqawi is will die with him. Bin Laden, on the other hand, is an
ideological thinker. He created the concept of al-Qaeda and all of its
offshoots. He feels he's achieved his goal." He paused for a
moment, then said, "Osama bin Laden is like Karl Marx. Both created
an ideology. Marxism still flourished well after Marx's death. And
whether bin Laden is killed, or simply dies of natural causes,
al-Qaedaism will survive him."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/09/AR2006040900890.html

wb

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Jun 14, 2006, 8:34:11 PM6/14/06
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The Librarian wrote:
>
> You're really sick. ;) I won a pair of tickets to NASCAR up near Fort
> Worth so I went outta curiosity. I don't remember seeing ANY black
> folk.

They were cooking underneigth the stands in kitchens with no AC and
shagging trash barrels full of Bursh beer cans .. 32oz size, to the
dumpsters.

>What a complete waste of gasoline and time. The only time it was
> interesting was when some race car drivers were having a near death

> experience..
>

There are certain people who like watching cars go in circles ..
mostly retards
who suffered brain damage during birth and are easily entertained and
those
with IQ's between 20 and 50. Social misfits.

> You be watchin yore back if y'all get serious about this. Stay away
> from the back end of redneck pick ups if you know what I mean,
> especially if you see they've got any chain.
>

That was one sick event .. I've seen photos of the road and
*portions* of the body ... somewhere on the web .. then those guys
(another nascar fan ? ) drove into town and bragged about it at a bar
...
i know that convicted .. but it willbe another 12 years before they
fry their
asses. I think a public dragging should be shown on TV instead.

> On the other hand, can you sing like Charlie Pride?

IMO .. He likely had a semi hit on some CW radio and when he showed
up at Grand'Ole Opery they thought he was the cleaning crew coming
in
the wrong (front) door.
.

timepixdc

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Jun 14, 2006, 11:27:58 PM6/14/06
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In article <hc5192latp9oh1n9n...@4ax.com>,
Kramer <kra...@nospamming.org> wrote:

> You think a LOT of things.

Unlike you.

Green/Pace

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Jun 15, 2006, 11:34:58 AM6/15/06
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You clowns can't wait to post anything negative about "anything".


Oh, I apologize to clowns everywhere. You perform a useful function, whereas
these losers perform none.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"playun" <pla...@katrina.net> wrote in message
news:0j5u82h56gillh4g9...@4ax.com...


> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:39:28 GMT, "Green/Pace" <1w...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>OK pixie, soul, playnone, bruce morgan, etc.etc.etc..
>>
>>Where is the info that Rove "WILL NOT BE INDICTED"????
>

Green/Pace

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Jun 15, 2006, 11:34:58 AM6/15/06
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"The Librarian" <zoot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150229659.3...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...

>
> Green/Pace wrote:
>> OK pixie, soul, playnone, bruce morgan, etc.etc.etc..
>>
>> Where is the info that Rove "WILL NOT BE INDICTED"????
>>
>> You are all so unbiased and fair.
>> Here it is 1:37 CST & not one post.
>>
>> Wonder what else you will be "WRONG" about?????
>>
>> HHHHMMMMMMMM.
>>
>> Texas Blue
>
>
> It ain't over till it's over. I've been missing you. Did you see who
> all was going to the Bilderberger this year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I have been busy. I only come in here when my back hurts, or I have time to
waste. (;<)

I haven't checked on the "bildy's" for awhile. Guess it's about time, huh?

The chinese have been getting away with quite a bit that has been going
completely unreported. ??????

Linda sold all our stock Monday. Woman's premonition??

Anyway, I'm checking in from time to time. I have 610 posts in this NG this
morning.

Looks like Roper is taking up the slack.

Bruce Morgan must be selling too many Bill Lawrence pickups to have time to
add to the mix.

Looks like John Wheaton is taking a break, too.

I started to unload on the "candyians", for running off at the keyboard, but
then I considered the source.

Even pixie has been a bit off. Must be the heat???

Anyway, sorry you missed me, but you're aim will get better with practice.
(;>))))

I got tomatoes & squash to water.

Oh yeah, did you catch that news this morning about the electronic voting
machines in Austin????

It's going to court. Might set a precedent for all the machines.
Interesting.

Got to Git!

Texas Blue

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