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adobep...@gmail.com

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May 29, 2009, 10:00:13 AM5/29/09
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During decades Photoshop has been accreting all level users to
accomplish multiple tasks, from the simplest to the very
sophisticated. Along the way, the application has included new ways of
integrating new functionalities for different uses that made the
application grow bigger in such a way that even the most power users
only use 50% of it, and regular users only 10 %.

With each new version, we find dialogs increasing in size and amount
of components and styles for doing new things, however this fact
causes the application to be monolithic, making the user pay the price
of complexity.

However Adobe is not making anything by chance, and nor to harm users
at all. Adobe is currently melting technologies together to provide
new interface for controlling their applications. In the near future
scene we will see Flash interfaces designed to tackle such cumulative
complexity.

New tools like PatchPanel and SwitchBoard for example allow Flex and
AIR applications to communicate with Adobe Suit programs to provide
simple user interfaces for achieving simple tasks at the suit
programs.

Now the question is:

If Adobe has decided to change the course of its interfaces while the
programs grow monolithically, which things you think that Photoshop
and other suit programs are going to be first controlled by flash
technology?

And more specifically; If you had the chance to change things, what
things annoy you about Photoshop that would worth change?

ivanatwork

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May 29, 2009, 10:37:30 AM5/29/09
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adobep...@gmail.com ha scritto:

> With each new version, we find dialogs increasing in size and amount
> of components and styles for doing new things, however this fact
> causes the application to be monolithic, making the user pay the price
> of complexity.
>

I usually find Photoshop a little too much "command-centric".
It's like the Autocad of photoretouching: powerfull but only if you know
how to do what you have to.

What about something more centered on what you are doing? Example: an
interface for web, an interface for photomanipulation ...
Yes I know I can do it myself but if I don't need all these filters and
effects why can't I simply deselect them from the menus, for example?
You know: I spent a lot of time trying to understand the interface and
the commands and it's a good thing since I also learn retouching.

What I'm trying to say is: give the right tools for making the right
things. So we have not to work on commands and scripts instead of
maximize our preciuos time ;)

Even a version dedicated to certain operations will be apreciated
(example, a low cost version for web only etc...).


My two cents

Ivan - Italy.

botox

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May 29, 2009, 12:00:45 PM5/29/09
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What annoys me most is the useless duplication of functions in the separate
raw converter and desktop.
In fact, what annoys me the most is that the converter, originally a kludge
patch tacked on when dSLR raw formats became the norm, persists as a
zombie/bizarro and pointless separate entity.
I would like to see one desktop/workspace with all tools available. Many
tools perform the same mathematical functions on image data but use separate
and poorly documented user interfaces. Hence you can watch demos from any
number of "experts" explaining tool functions and uses that are
inconsistent, subjective and since they are incompatible some of them are
technically dead wrong.
And it would be nice if after all these versions the many bugs in Bridges
could be exterminated and if PS behaved the same on 64 bits oses as on 32
bit --not the 64 bit version of the program: there are many small things in
the 32 bit version that just don't work right in Vista 64 or Win 7 64.
Wonderful as PS is it really is not worth the $500 plus retail price of
entry in its current state.

S. Fishpaste

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May 29, 2009, 11:34:18 AM5/29/09
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On Fri, 29 May 2009 16:37:30 +0200, ivanatwork in alt.graphics.photoshop wrote:

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> What about something more centered on what you are doing? Example: an
> interface for web, an interface for photomanipulation ...
> Yes I know I can do it myself but if I don't need all these filters and
> effects why can't I simply deselect them from the menus, for example?
> You know: I spent a lot of time trying to understand the interface and
> the commands and it's a good thing since I also learn retouching.

If you wish leaner; The product you want is called Adobe Fireworks.

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Regards,
S. Fishpaste

ivanatwork

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May 29, 2009, 12:20:18 PM5/29/09
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S. Fishpaste ha scritto:

> If you wish leaner; The product you want is called Adobe Fireworks.
>

Yes. Fireworks! Argh... the price is a bit not affordable for someone as
myself but in the end, I agree.


P.S: I just watched a tutorial. Web = HTML + Firework + Photoshop (when
needed) + Flash ... for a good start.

S. Fishpaste

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Jun 4, 2009, 7:11:04 AM6/4/09
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On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:20:18 +0200, ivanatwork in alt.graphics.photoshop wrote:
> S. Fishpaste ha scritto:
>
>> If you wish leaner; The product you want is called Adobe Fireworks.
>>
> Yes. Fireworks! Argh... the price is a bit not affordable for someone as
> myself but in the end, I agree.

Well one way is to take an evening course in basic Web Design to qualify
for the student discount. The savings might be worthwhile -- Something to
think about.

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Regards,
S. Fishpaste

Jane P

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Jun 21, 2009, 12:17:46 AM6/21/09
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"ivanatwork" <ivana...@email.it> wrote in message
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You can tell it what panels to show, and what commands to show on the menus.
It's called the workspace, and you can customise what stays and what goes
from the menus, and save it as your own options. You can easily get all the
commands back by loading the original workspace as well.

Just go into Window, Workspace, Keyboard Shortcuts & Menus. From there you
can choose what commands to show/hide, and you'll have your cut down version
of photoshop.


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