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Ülysses Protos

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May 7, 2012, 10:36:46 AM5/7/12
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for the help with names
the group alt.binaries.amp complained
I posted fantasy pics and got screamed at.
for my pics and name.
I needed a CSV file and refused to comply
who has the right to tell another what to post and say
as long as nothing is vulgar in any group ??
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Ülysses Protos


Savageduck

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May 7, 2012, 12:47:40 PM5/7/12
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Does a charter exist for alt.binaries.amp?
If so, are you in violation of that charter?
Usually a charter would spell out what is acceptable to a particular
group, though sometimes it is hard to find an original charter as many
of the group founders are long gone, and much might have changed in the
character of the group.

What binary file types are you posting?
My assumption is the file types would be jpeg, gif, tiff, png, or similar.

The fantasy is yours, so I have no idea of the content and/or subject
of your images, and I suspect that this is where the criticism from
others in that particular group lies.

I have taken a look at alt.binaries.amp and it appears to me that it is
a clearing house for reasonably large automotive and soft porn images.
So I guess your fantasy images don't quite meet the expectations of the
regular contributors and lurkers.

Since you are using OE (not the greatest of Usenet clients) I assume
you are not using yEnc encoding which many MS product users cannot
tolerate.

Why would you need a CSV file for posting and/or viewing binaries, that
seems to be a very arcane MS centric issue??

As far as your name goes, so what? If Ulysses is your given name and
you care to use it, do so. Just differentiate between your handle and
any other individuals who might have preceded you in using the same
name.


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Savageduck

Ülysses Protos

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May 7, 2012, 1:53:28 PM5/7/12
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Guess i violated their charter, no harm intended
their rules are strict. and i am not use to that
I am an easy go lucky guy. my first set was posted
in alt.binaries.pictures.scenic, called "what's that"
a group of misc pics, and was a complete success
checked out ABA and decided to post sci-fi, fantasy,
dragons etc JPG pics. I got insulted, yelled and put down
I have win7, which has Windows Virtual PC. By using it,
I can resort back to winXP with my favorite outlook express
Yes I have yEnc, but don't use it. some who download my pics
don't have it (or not know how) so it makes all viewers
accessible to my pics.
took awhile to come up with new name Üysses Protos.
how's that one, Savageduck ?? many thanks for advice

Savageduck

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May 7, 2012, 3:05:54 PM5/7/12
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Guess i violated their charter, no harm intended
their rules are strict. and i am not use to that

They seem to have a pretty broad image acceptance, mostly automotive
and porn/soft porn/smut.

I am an easy go lucky guy. my first set was posted
in alt.binaries.pictures.scenic, called "what's that"
a group of misc pics, and was a complete success
checked out ABA and decided to post sci-fi, fantasy,
dragons etc JPG pics.

I am not exactly a fan of that genre, but I am sure there are sci-fi,
fantasy groups which would welcome your work.

I got insulted, yelled and put down

That can happen in group flame wars, particularly when some folks
become territorial. There are several solutions.
Ignore the flame warriors and continue to post in the group. If they
are that disturbed by your posts they will kill file & filter you.
However your images would still be available to those who would care to
view them.
Move to a group where your work will be appropriate and appreciated.

...or just engage in flame war combat.

I have win7, which has Windows Virtual PC. By using it,
I can resort back to winXP with my favorite outlook express

Not my OS, or my preferred Usenet client, I do my best to avoid all things MS.

Yes I have yEnc, but don't use it. some who download my pics
don't have it (or not know how) so it makes all viewers
accessible to my pics.

yEnc can be useful for large batch uploads, but it has not become
universally accepted by those who are not comfortable moving into
unfamiliar territory. So for the most part using simple jpegs or url
links to files is the most accepted way to go.

took awhile to come up with new name Üysses Protos.
how's that one, Savageduck ?? many thanks for advice

You should use whatever you are comfortable using. If you have always
used "Ulysses" and now find a conflict, perhaps just adding a single
letter which might represent your surname initial could be something to
consider. Something like "Ulysses_A".

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Regards,

Savageduck

Carrie

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May 8, 2012, 10:06:51 AM5/8/12
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"Ülysses Protos" <uly...@whatsthat.com> wrote in message
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Seems like even on unmoderated groups, someone (or more) tries to rule
and control it, for whatever reason. Maybe they don't feel they have any
power or control over their lives OFFline, and the groups become like a
little world to them. Since the newsgroups (mostly) are unmoderated, they
are one of the few places left now where there is freedom or any kind. Of
course, that means we can make our own choices around this, too. I like the
idea of being able to learn and make choices myself, without someone playing
God and threatening (and maybe deleting what I write or even banning me)
because of my honest thoughts, feelings and beliefs.
A lot of people do seem to like moderated groups though, or maybe they
don't but when they speak up about it, they are delted and/or banned LOL
I've been on groups where someone just stopped posting and later found out
they had been banned from the group.
I don't think this is even interesting, but I guess if people don't like it
they don't have to participate.
I don't know what happened on alt.binaries.amp, but I can understand it
happening. Sometimes these unmoderated groups are like mini "worlds" things
play out on.
I don't see anything wrong with your name, but some people just look for
things to try and start about.
Sounds like it's been resolved. And, fantasy pics doesn't sound bad. If
people don't like them, they could always skip you.
My take on it, from not really knowing what is going on LOL


Ülysses Protos

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May 8, 2012, 10:36:28 AM5/8/12
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> Seems like even on unmoderated groups, someone (or more) tries to rule
> and control it, for whatever reason. Maybe they don't feel they have any
> power or control over their lives OFFline, and the groups become like a
> little world to them. Since the newsgroups (mostly) are unmoderated, they
> are one of the few places left now where there is freedom or any kind. Of
> course, that means we can make our own choices around this, too. I like
> the idea of being able to learn and make choices myself, without someone
> playing God and threatening (and maybe deleting what I write or even
> banning me) because of my honest thoughts, feelings and beliefs.
> A lot of people do seem to like moderated groups though, or maybe they
> don't but when they speak up about it, they are delted and/or banned LOL
> I've been on groups where someone just stopped posting and later found
> out they had been banned from the group.
> I don't think this is even interesting, but I guess if people don't like
> it they don't have to participate.
> I don't know what happened on alt.binaries.amp, but I can understand it
> happening. Sometimes these unmoderated groups are like mini "worlds"
> things play out on.
> I don't see anything wrong with your name, but some people just look for
> things to try and start about.
> Sounds like it's been resolved. And, fantasy pics doesn't sound bad. If
> people don't like them, they could always skip you.
> My take on it, from not really knowing what is going on LOL
>
Is there a way to tell if a group is moderated?
and who gives the group leader the right to dictate its rules
Oh well life goes on. .I did change my name (if you know greek)
Check out my favorite group, Carrie. its alt.binaries.pictures.scenic
I do post there. and a swell bunch of guys
thanks. Ülysses Protos


Carrie

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May 10, 2012, 10:53:57 PM5/10/12
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"Ülysses Protos" <uly...@whatsthat.com> wrote in message
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I think the group will say moderated. For awhile there was a group cross
posting on another group I was on, that was something wicca .
alt.religion.wicca. I looked up the group and there were two, one was
alt.religion.wicca(moderated) This was a few years back not sure if they are
still there. I thought it might be interesting, Wicca being like "elements"
(nature) not like devil worship, etc. I picked the moderated one since the
other one seemed kind of rough, that was the one cross posting and some of
the same members were on each.
There was a post on, someone had written something like "where is
everyone, no one seems to be posting lately?" I wrote as a joke, maybe they
have posted and gotten deleted, this being a moderated group. (I don't do
good on moderated groups I usually say something, point something out and
someone doesn't like it...) Well the post went on, and then disappeared.
Later someone said they were supposed to be checked first, but they had
several moderators and someone had let it on and someone else had taken it
off. So I went on the unmoderated one and wrote ABOUT this, how I'd gotten
one post on the moderated group but it had been taken off, and some of them
(who were on both) hadn't seen my post before it was taken off and didn't
know about it. Apparently some posts weren't let on and some were later
deleted and not everyone knew this. I always figure if someone is on a group
where people are deleted and banned or whatever the others should at least
know this is going on. Then if they want to be part of it, and take their
chances getting "moderated" (and maybe disappearing) they can.
Some said they didn't believe I'd posted and it got deleted... I didn't
argue about it, just stopped trying to fit in.
You'd think a group based on Wicca or New age believes, etc would be
less uptight and more into letting people post what they wanted. It wasn't
like I'd put anyone down or called names, etc.
A lot of the newsgroups are also carried by Google Groups, which you
have to join and you can report (or be reported) on there, but I don't know
if Google Groups ever does anything to people who are reported. They might
cancel their regestration but the person can set up another one.
So, the Google Groups part of it does have terms of use (can't threaten,
post personal info, etc. though people still were last I knew)
Anyway, I think the groups that are moderated will say so in the name. I
don't know how they are moderated, if they come in a newsgroup reader, but
apparently they can be. If they are set up like that at the start.
I think alt groups are more open and anything goes than "talk" ones, at
least that's what I've heard. The newsgroups seem to be one of the few
"places" (it's like we actually go somewhere when we go to a group) that are
still free. They can get rough, but no one is forced to participate and most
have ways to block people. I like the idea of everyone learning their own
lessons in their own way (even the lesson of ignoring or blocking someone)
instead of a moderator(s) who usually tend to get into playing God.



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