Digimark - doesnt work?
Matt
I decided to copyright my photos with digimark (the single free version).
create my photos/images apply the watermark. All works fine.
Save the image out as jpeg. close everything open the image back up in
photoshop,
It tells me cant find a watermark!!!
Anyone know what problems i could be experincing?, will digimark not work
with all images?
vanhetgoor
some editing there still was information from Digimarc in the image! I could
read the Digimarc and go to the site of the original publisher, so it must
work, I guess.
But then again, even if somebody would use Digimarc, that is no guarantee
that the illustration or photograph would not be copied by somebody and used
without consent. Copyrights did work in some time in history, but nowadays it
is holding things down. If I see a "can of soup", and make a painting of
that can then it is art, then I have the copyright, but what if somebody sees
my painting and makes a can of soup? A better soup that is more tasteful,
with a label on the can that looks like my painting? Jeff Koons (an american
artist, who once was married to Chicolina, the porn actress) made a sculpture
of a troop of dogs looking funny, it was made after a postcard from years
ago. The sculpture is art, it is an original peace of art, but it was
inspired by something else. And the owner of the original work did not
approve, so there was a problem.
If nothing that was ever made before can be copied than there would be no
evolution of ideas, no art, no fashion. I like to take things that are there
already and improve it, change it, make it better, make the second step in
evolution. Who was the first "Mickey Mouse" or was it "Jerry" (from Tom and
Jerry), who was first "Candid Camera" or "Americas Funniest Home Movies"?
Basically the same idea's, but differently done.
Forget about copyrights, start copying and improving.
Steven V.
Hecate
14:32:15 GMT, you filibustered:
> Some months ago I was using stock photo's and I found out that even after
>some editing there still was information from Digimarc in the image! I could
>read the Digimarc and go to the site of the original publisher, so it must
>work, I guess.
>
> But then again, even if somebody would use Digimarc, that is no guarantee
>that the illustration or photograph would not be copied by somebody and used
>without consent. Copyrights did work in some time in history, but nowadays it
>is holding things down. If I see a "can of soup", and make a painting of
>that can then it is art, then I have the copyright, but what if somebody sees
>my painting and makes a can of soup? A better soup that is more tasteful,
>with a label on the can that looks like my painting? Jeff Koons (an american
>artist, who once was married to Chicolina, the porn actress) made a sculpture
>of a troop of dogs looking funny, it was made after a postcard from years
>ago. The sculpture is art, it is an original peace of art, but it was
>inspired by something else. And the owner of the original work did not
>approve, so there was a problem.
>
> If nothing that was ever made before can be copied than there would be no
>evolution of ideas, no art, no fashion. I like to take things that are there
>already and improve it, change it, make it better, make the second step in
>evolution. Who was the first "Mickey Mouse" or was it "Jerry" (from Tom and
>Jerry), who was first "Candid Camera" or "Americas Funniest Home Movies"?
>Basically the same idea's, but differently done.
>
> Forget about copyrights, start copying and improving.
>
There is a vast difference between making a work of art, over which
you have the copyright, and making identical cans of soup using
another manufacturers label.,. Just try it and see. I'd advise you to
have a lot of money though for the lawyers.
If you think copyright is a problem - well, if you ever come across
anything I've done, and copy it without paying me -you'll soon find
out, in the courts, that copyright isn't dead.
You obviously have no idea of the difference between copyright,
patents, trade marks and fair use,. I suggest you educate yourself
about it before you end up very,very poor.
Oh, and you might like to know that the Netherlands is one country
which comes down on copyright abusers very hard.
--
Hecate
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Mike Russell
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...
> If nothing that was ever made before can be copied than there would be
no
> evolution of ideas, no art, no fashion. I like to take things that are
there
> already and improve it, change it, make it better, make the second step in
> evolution. Who was the first "Mickey Mouse" or was it "Jerry" (from Tom
and
> Jerry), who was first "Candid Camera" or "Americas Funniest Home Movies"?
> Basically the same idea's, but differently done.
>
> Forget about copyrights, start copying and improving.
Do so at your peril, though.l
Mickey Mouse was invented after Disney lost the rights to Oswald Rabbit.
So copyrights can be an impulse be creative, as well as helping someone make
a living from their ideas.
Matt
I dont care if someone copies my images or ideas, just not steal my exact
ones!!!!
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Husky
>My question was for digimark!!!
>
1 how old is the 'free' digimark sig ? It does expire !
2 something I learned and you really need to get all the info on your
account from digimark is all the info. ie: Thumbsplus can't use a PS
digimark unless you enter ALL the info avail from digimark.
3 save the photo after all the above have been verified
4 quit ps.
5 reload ps
6 load pix with mark, or just run the check mark thingy.
7 if it's still screwed reinstall the mark into ps and start at 2
again.
Jig
> I decided to copyright my photos with digimark (the single free version).
> create my photos/images apply the watermark. All works fine.
> Save the image out as jpeg. close everything open the image back up in
> photoshop,
> It tells me cant find a watermark!!!
Did you mark the Verify option when applying the watermark? If so, the
filter will tell you how strong the watermark is.
Did you set the right type of watermark (use for web, etc.)?
What size (pixels) are the images? Very small images do not contain enough
info to succesfully watermark them.
If you use a lot of JPG compression the watermark will not survive. When
saving as jpg begin with a watermark that shows up as very strong in the
Digimarc filter.
The strength of the watermark also depends on the image itself. A photo with
lots of detail and lots of tiny contrasts will require a more visible
watermark. A photo which is out of phocus or has smooth patterns in it can
contain a stronger watermark.
Grtz, Jig.