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Rune Feldt-Rasmussen

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Mar 30, 2002, 7:29:20 PM3/30/02
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Hi there.
Does anyone know an easy way to make "slide frames" in PS (6)?
I'm talking about the black border left around an image shot on slide film.
When cropped many photographers leave a bit of the black border from the
scan in the final picture to show the viewer that the shot was composed "one
the spot", not in PS.
I tend to do the same, but it really irritating when, on accation, an image
really needs cropping. Then the black border goes out the window, and none
of the frame plug-in manufactures (like extensis) make a frame that looks
right.
I was therefore hoping for someone in this NG to come up with a bright idea,
please do :-)
Rune Feldt-Rasmussen
Aarhus
Denmark

Stephan

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Mar 30, 2002, 8:08:53 PM3/30/02
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Sorry my friend but you have PS6 and you can't make a black frame around a
picture?
Stop looking for plugins, look in the help file for "stroke"
plugins plugins plugins. Seems like for some people PS is a plugin organiser

Stephan


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Fred

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Mar 30, 2002, 7:55:32 PM3/30/02
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Simply take a real slide frame border and paste your image into that.
Retouch the transitions if neccessary and voilá ...

Fred
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Rune Feldt-Rasmussen

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Mar 31, 2002, 3:58:16 AM3/31/02
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Stephan wrote:
Sorry my friend but you have PS6 and you can't make a black frame around a
picture?
Stop looking for plugins, look in the help file for "stroke"
plugins plugins plugins. Seems like for some people PS is a plugin organizer

Stephan,
Sure I can make a black frame around my pictures!?
But I don't thing you understand what I am looking for. The border on a
slide film (or any negative film for that matter) is actually the area
around the image that wasn't exposed when the picture was taken (if you have
an exposed 35mm neg available, you can easily see what I mean).
Mind you, this frame is not a perfect frame in any way, it has slightly
uneven edges on the inside, uneven corners and "feathers" into the image
just a tad - but not evenly...
These irregularities are caused by the fact that the frame (area not
exposed) was blocked from exposure by the film holder inside the camera, a
mechanical thing, not optical.
When the slide is shown on a screen or copied onto paper, the magnification
makes the small irregularities in this "blocking out the light" visible.
To make borders like that in Photoshop is of course possible, but it is not
easy to make it look like the real thing in a matter of minutes, not easy at
all!
Fred wrote that if everything else fails I can always paste one in from
another picture, and that is actually what I have been doing so far.
My reason for posting the question was not to get snub remark about
plug-ins, it was to find out if anyone has had the same problem and solved
it!
Kind regards,
Rune Feldt-Rasmussen
Aarhus
Denmark

Helmut P. Einfalt

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Mar 31, 2002, 4:52:00 AM3/31/02
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>it was to find out if anyone has had the same problem and solved
>it!

make one *landscape* border, with or without the transport holes,
(either by hand or from a scan)
make an irregular cutout in the middle
(i.e. an *almost* rectangular slightly skewed "hole"
to accommodate your actual picture)
feather the inside edges
save the frame
(frame_L_1)

open a copy of frame_L_1
flip it horizontally
(this will give you a "different" set of irregularities)
save it under a new name
(frame_L_2)

open a copy of frame_L_1
flip it vertically
(this will give you a "different" set of irregularities)
save it under a new name
(frame_L_3)

open a copy of frame_L_1
flip it horizontally *and* vertically
(this will give you a "different" set of irregularities)
save it under a new name
(frame_L_4)

open a copy of frame_L_1
rotate it 90 degrees
(this will give you a portrait frame)
save it under a new name
(frame_P_1)

open a copy of frame_P_1
rotate it 90 degrees
flip it horizontally
(this will give you a "different" set of irregularities)
save it under a new name
(frame_P_2)

etc.etc.etc -- you get the picture.

And now:
Start recording action
Open any landscape image
If necessary, enlarge area
Paste one of the landscape frames to a layer above
Flatten and save...
End recording action

Repeat this four times, with different frames
and saving it as different actions...

Start recording action
Open any portrait image
If necessary, enlarge area
Paste one of the portrait frames to a layer above
Flatten and save...
End recording action

Repeat this four times, with different frames
and saving it as different actions...

...and there you are -- sort of a
home-brew-one-click-make-me-a-slide-border-plug-in-like-action.

I admit that it would require a defined size in pixels for both the
images and the frames for working automatically, but that's what a
plug-in would require, too, unless you want to fiddle around by hand in
every case...

What's so difficult about it?

Helmut
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TMRDD

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Mar 31, 2002, 7:51:57 AM3/31/02
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Hi... I've always admired the look and feel of images that look, well, quite
frankly, "raw" and yet "finished"; Richard Avedon has done many photographic
portraits with just that feeling.

How I've achieved what I would consider a similar effect is to:

- clip out the subject image
- add a wide white border (via the canvas command)
- create a selection frame that encompasses both the image and a portion of
the white border
- feather the selection
- airbrush black into the selection frame
- apply the photocopy filter... this should, because the selection is
feathered and encompasses both the white border and the image bit, introduce
a fair bit of randomness and the raw-ness I alluded to earlier
- adjust the filter to taste/feel

Doesn't work every time, but I've had some reasonable success. You may have
to play/massage the image selection area with both black and white
airbrushing. If you stay with it I think you will be surprised at the
results.

--

Kindest regards, TMRDD
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"Rune Feldt-Rasmussen" <fe...@adr.dk> wrote in message
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> Hi there.
> Does anyone know an easy way to make "slide frames" in PS (6)?
> I'm talking about the black border left around an image shot on slide
film.
> When cropped many photographers leave a bit of the black border from the

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