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VPD Det.

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Jan 3, 2012, 6:40:48 AM1/3/12
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Now cops can enter homes to shut off natural gas valves
Friday, December 30, 2011 by: J. D. Heyes
(http://www.naturalnews.com/034524_police_breaking_and_entering_private_homes.html)


(NaturalNews) These days, police don't seem to need a warrant to enter
your home without your permission when you're not there. Well, at least
not in Westerly, R.I.

According to a local report, crews from the local utility company,
accompanied by cops, were going door-to-door to close off the gas meters
of about 1,600 homes, under the guise of trying to fix a "distribution
problem."

If no one is at the home, cops and locksmiths are going into the homes in
order to shut off the gas valve. The utility, National Grid, said its
crews would be returning to the homes to turn gas meters back on once the
problem is identified.

Taking into account the bad things that are associated with a
"distribution problem" (i.e. gas leak), there doesn't seem to be a
provision in the Constitution that gives authorities the right to enter a
home without probable cause, permission or a warrant. Also, can't gas
lines be accessed from outside a customer's home?

But then, what are Americans to expect these days, when courts have said
you don't even have a right to resist an illegal entry by a police
officer?

In May an Indianapolis Supreme Court, on a 3-2 vote, overturned a common
law that dated back to the English Magna Carta of 1215 when it ruled that
even when police are entering illegally, Indiana residents had no right to
resist them. So much for the old axiom, "Your home is your castle."

"We believe a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is
against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment
jurisprudence," Justice Steven David wrote for the court. He is saying
essentially that cops in the state could enter anyone's home for improper
reasons - or no reason at all. "We also find that allowing resistance
unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of
injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest."

So in other words, resisting this illegal entry could be hazardous to your
health. Public safety is a legitimate concern, but so, too, is the
expectation of a little privacy in your own home.

Sources:

http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/local_...

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/...

=====================================================

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER GUN GRABBING HOME INVASION TACTIC TO FEED THE
"POLICE/COURT $YSTEMS" GREEDY POCKETS OF TONS OF MINDLESS PAPER LAWS.

GET RID OF THESE DRUNKEN POTHEADS.

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Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jan 3, 2012, 7:33:43 AM1/3/12
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>"VPD Det." <VanduPo...@gov.bc.ca> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>Now cops can enter homes to shut off natural gas valves
>Friday, December 30, 2011 by: J. D. Heyes
>(http://www.naturalnews.com/034524_police_breaking_and_entering_private_homes.html)
>
>
>(NaturalNews) These days, police don't seem to need a warrant to enter
>your home without your permission when you're not there. Well, at least
>not in Westerly, R.I.
>
>According to a local report, crews from the local utility company,
>accompanied by cops, were going door-to-door to close off the gas meters
>of about 1,600 homes, under the guise of trying to fix a "distribution
>problem."

And where is this local report? This one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR_JbGrVw-g
Says they entered businesses when they couldn't contact the owner, not
homes.

>If no one is at the home, cops and locksmiths are going into the homes in
>order to shut off the gas valve.

Show us the report. Until then, we'll assume you're full of shit.

<SNIP>

> THIS IS JUST ANOTHER GUN GRABBING HOME INVASION

How many guns were grabbed?

>TACTIC TO FEED THE
>"POLICE/COURT $YSTEMS" GREEDY POCKETS OF TONS OF MINDLESS PAPER LAWS.

Um, how did this enrich the police and court systems? Take all the
room you need.

>GET RID OF THESE DRUNKEN POTHEADS.

Especially the ones that post these articles.

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a425couple

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Jan 3, 2012, 11:54:24 AM1/3/12
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"VPD Det." <VanduPo...@gov.bc.ca> wrote in message...
> Now cops can enter homes to shut off natural gas valves
> Friday, December 30, 2011 by: J. D. Heyes

You post to an awfully large number of groups.
(personally, I'd suggest dividing them in two groups,
so you could see more of those who do try to respond to you,)

I have some trouble believing that you are employed
as a "Det.", in Vancouver, or anywhere else in BC.

> (NaturalNews) These days, police don't seem to need a warrant to enter
> your home without your permission when you're not there. Well, at least
> not in Westerly, R.I.

In the USA, this can come under the heading of "exigent circumstances"
You might wish to view:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent_circumstance_in_United_States_law
I may be interesting in more discussion after you have read it.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Jan 3, 2012, 8:51:33 PM1/3/12
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>"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in talk.politics.guns :

>"VPD Det." <VanduPo...@gov.bc.ca> wrote in message...
>> Now cops can enter homes to shut off natural gas valves
>> Friday, December 30, 2011 by: J. D. Heyes
>
>You post to an awfully large number of groups.
>(personally, I'd suggest dividing them in two groups,
>so you could see more of those who do try to respond to you,)
>
>I have some trouble believing that you are employed
>as a "Det.", in Vancouver, or anywhere else in BC.


It probably means he's "detained." And I'll bet the walls have thick,
thick padding.

R. LaCasse

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Jan 14, 2012, 8:09:25 AM1/14/12
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 04:33:43 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>"VPD Det." <VanduPo...@gov.bc.ca> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>
>>Now cops can enter homes to shut off natural gas valves
>>Friday, December 30, 2011 by: J. D. Heyes
>>(http://www.naturalnews.com/034524_police_breaking_and_entering_private_homes.html)
>>
>>
>>(NaturalNews) These days, police don't seem to need a warrant to enter
>>your home without your permission when you're not there. Well, at least
>>not in Westerly, R.I.
>>
>>According to a local report, crews from the local utility company,
>>accompanied by cops, were going door-to-door to close off the gas meters
>>of about 1,600 homes, under the guise of trying to fix a "distribution
>>problem."
>
>And where is this local report? This one
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR_JbGrVw-g
>Says they entered businesses when they couldn't contact the owner, not
>homes.
>
Try
(http://www.naturalnews.com/034524_police_breaking_and_entering_private_homes.html)

>>If no one is at the home, cops and locksmiths are going into the homes in
>>order to shut off the gas valve.
>
>Show us the report. Until then, we'll assume you're full of shit.
>
(http://www.naturalnews.com/034524_police_breaking_and_entering_private_homes.html)

><SNIP>
>
>> THIS IS JUST ANOTHER GUN GRABBING HOME INVASION
>
>How many guns were grabbed?
>
As many as R.Nagin types want..

>>TACTIC TO FEED THE
>>"POLICE/COURT $YSTEMS" GREEDY POCKETS OF TONS OF MINDLESS PAPER LAWS.
>
>Um, how did this enrich the police and court systems? Take all the
>room you need.
>
PPL will have to litigate and Police Court are all the same
representation.

>>GET RID OF THESE DRUNKEN POTHEADS.
>
>Especially the ones that post these articles.
>
That's a friggin lie, and I'm tired of posting to 2 year olds like
you....you understand nothing of anything......finish school, and take a
GED.

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