BLOCKBUSTER ADMISSION FROM THE NIST REPORT ON BUILDING 7
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/factsheet/wtc_qa_082108.html
Did fuel oil systems in WTC 7 contribute to its collapse?
No. The building had three separate emergency power systems, all of which
ran on diesel fuel. The worst-case scenarios associated with fires being
fed by ruptured fuel lines—or from fuel stored in day tanks on the lower
floors—could not have been sustained long enough, could not have generated
sufficient heat to weaken critical interior columns, and/or would have
produced large amounts of visible smoke from the lower floors, which were
not observed.
----------------------
So what caused the collapse? Was it just fires fed by burning furniture
and rugs???? I'm really surprised the NIST said no fuel oil was involved
since that has been a popular argument of the govt shills for years.
SHOOTER586
Once again, teh Ctists are slammed by real scientists and experts. So
far, there has been ZERO valid responses from the CT crowd. They cried
and complained that they had no final report. Nowe that there is one,
they have nothing left to cry about.
CTists have nothing to say about WTC 7 anymore. No explosions, no
explosives, no thermite. Just an uncontrolled fire.
Oh well, they can always go back to Bigfoot. Oh wait! They lost that
one too!
george
In a word yes.
Look up house fires and the heats they attain
The emergency generators in the building run on diesel.
Fuel oil isn't diesel.
You really have to stop making claims as to what the reports say
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>
> Once again, teh Ctists are slammed by real scientists and experts. So
> far, there has been ZERO valid responses from the CT crowd. They cried
> and complained that they had no final report. Nowe that there is one,
> they have nothing left to cry about.
>
> CTists have nothing to say about WTC 7 anymore. No explosions, no
> explosives, no thermite. Just an uncontrolled fire.
>
All right, you paid govt shill. So what caused the fires??. Fires hot
enough to collapse the building???
george
<beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> All right, you paid govt shill. So what caused the fires??. Fires hot
> enough to collapse the building???
It has been pointed out here on a number of occasions that truck fires
under steel truss bridges/onramps are sufficient to weaken the
structure
Whereupon it collapses !
SHOOTER586
Paid govt shill? Are you required to ask that everytime somebody
proves you have no independent thought or is it a natural reaction to
being shown that you have no expertise in any topic of 9-11? I take it
you can't fathom the idea that there are people that enjoy the
shutting down of unintelligent people trying to make up claims they
can't defend when exposed to real experts.
The fires were caused by the collapse of a 110-story building 300 feet
away. Did you ever hear about that? When those fires go uncontrolled
for several hours, they tend to grow and get hotter and hotter. Maybe
one of your fire experts can help you with a response so that you
don't sound like a 3rd grader wth childish name-calling.
Dennis E Strausser Jr
news:306295d3-a957-4a70...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Hi SHOOTER586,,. It's me "Fievel J Mousekewitz."
govt shill will probably have something to say here sometime...
Trying to work on pointing some of those out here
http://www.geocities.com/ravingraichudebunks911/
For the size of the exploding jet fuel I point out, that's almost next door.
It could've easily made it "300" feet. Maybe even further.
A CT'er will probably tell me I'm wrong though.
I would've told myself I was wrong 4 months ago.
Fievel.
Iarnrod
Did you miss the fact that a flaming 110-story skyscraper collapsed
into it, hmmmmmmm?
Dumb dumb dumb troll!
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
968ad8...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
.
>
> The fires were caused by the collapse of a 110-story building 300 feet
> away. Did you ever hear about that? When those fires go uncontrolled
> for several hours, they tend to grow and get hotter and hotter. Maybe
> one of your fire experts can help you with a response so that you
> don't sound like a 3rd grader wth childish name-calling.
>
Are you serious??? How did a fire a block away cause Building 7 to catch
on fire, you idiot?? HAHAHA. You govt shills are really desperate.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
06be17...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
No i didn't hear that, you moron. The twin towers came str8 down and didn't
collapse into anything. Now gfy, you hater.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
news:d6f165d7-5cc7-4835...@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
> On Aug 22, 7:48 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> So what caused the collapse? Was it just fires fed by burning
>> furniture and rugs???? I'm really surprised the NIST said no fuel oil
>> was involved since that has been a popular argument of the govt
>> shills for years.
>
> In a word yes.
> Look up house fires and the heats they attain
>
YOU STUPID PATHETIC IGNORAMUS. Houses are wood-frame. Skyscrapers are
steel frame!!!
animal02
> Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:17cc4f75-bcfa-42f0-9c09-
> 06be17...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>> On Aug 21, 2:22 pm, SHOOTER586 <shooter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>
>>> All right, you paid govt shill. So what caused the fires??. Fires hot
>>> enough to collapse the building???
>> Did you miss the fact that a flaming 110-story skyscraper collapsed
>> into it, hmmmmmmm?
>>
>
>
> No i didn't hear that, you moron. The twin towers came str8 down and didn't
> collapse into anything. Now gfy, you hater.
You poor deluded kooktard.......as stupid as ever
http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c23/JPPics/9-11/?action=view¤t=RadiusotWTCtowerscollapsedamage.jpg
animal02
You poor deluded kooktard
In a typical fire, such as in an
office, residential or retail occupancy, the maximum temperature
of a fully developed fire will likely not exceed
1,500 °F (815 °C), though it could range up to a peak of
2,000 °F (1,093 °C) under more severe conditions.
Iarnrod
> Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:17cc4f75-bcfa-42f0-9c09-
> 06be17...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> >> On Aug 21, 2:22 pm, SHOOTER586 <shooter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
>
> >> >
> >>
> >> All right, you paid govt shill. So what caused the fires??. Fires hot
> >> enough to collapse the building???
> >
> > Did you miss the fact that a flaming 110-story skyscraper collapsed
> > into it, hmmmmmmm?
> >
>
>
> No i didn't hear that, you moron. The twin towers came str8 down and didn't
> collapse into anything. Now gfy, you hater.
BWAAHAHHAHAAAAA!!! So you're one of them "fell straight down" morons
who can't even look at the video and see the huge spreading umbrella
of thousands of tons of steel that fell *well outside* the building
footprionts!!! Hooo-hooo-hooooooo!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAAAA!! Tell us, moron, what you "think" punctured the WTC7
building and the Bankers Trust/Deutsche Bank building!! As well as
Verizon Building from WTC7 debris!!!
Holy cow, what a stupid moron you are!!! The videos show the huge
debris circumference and yet you "think" it fell into its own
footprint!!
BWAHAHAAAHAHHAAAA!!!!
You're so stupid, even a KOOKER site contradicts you:
http://www.studyof911.com/articles/winstonwtc701/
Dennis E Strausser Jr
message news:Xns9B01CEC50CC07r...@216.168.3.70...
Considering height where the plane hit, the falling debris would have hit
WTC7 before WTC6 or WTC5
http://killtown.911review.org/images/wtc6/wtc6.h16.jpg
Much better, you can see better just how close they were.
And I see from this, just where I have some things wrong here.
But considering the speed the plane came in, it could've taken out more.
The Post Office was near by as well.
BTW, 300 feet is not even a full football field, it don't take them long to
get to the
other-side of that feild, does it?
My point?
Something travelling over 400MPH could've easily caused something, like
debris
to travel over 300 feet.
I have my angles wrong here,,.. However, pointing out the damage of the
building I
believe I have pretty accurate. There's proff of more damage inside the
building
then what you can see on the out side. The first building had quite a few
floors
damaged on the first plane hit.
Thank god, there was only a handful of people on those floors. Most of the
lives
taken, would've been the secon building hit, because the building fell much
faster.
So people didn't have as much time to get out of the building.
Back to WTC7
Even if it was 600 Feet away, that's still not all that far, for flying
debris flying into
100s of MPH.
Distance has nothing to do with it, it's the speed of the debris that does.
I'm not sure just how 100MPH slows down. But I do know, it's going to travel
some distance before it does. 400 or so, - an impact = still traveling 100s
of MPH
For the falling and flying debris that is...
Unless you think it should've just fell straight down?
Gravity isn't that stable from that height anyway.
Hm?
So what did WTC1 and WTC2 fall almost straight down?
The frame of the buildings, and support beams, stablized the gravity
as they fell. Causing them to fall the way they did. 9/11 wouldn't happen
any different if we could go back in time, and let it happen again.
Of course, nearly half the building already had damage to it with the fist
plane hit.
It can be seen, on you're proff videos you claim is proff.
See my free site again....
http://www.geocities.com/ravingraichudebunks911/
SHOOTER586
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:17cc4f75-bcfa-42f0-9c09-
> 06be1772c...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> >> On Aug 21, 2:22 pm, SHOOTER586 <shooter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> All right, you paid govt shill. So what caused the fires??. Fires hot
> >> enough to collapse the building???
>
> > Did you miss the fact that a flaming 110-story skyscraper collapsed
> > into it, hmmmmmmm?
>
> No i didn't hear that, you moron. The twin towers came str8 down and didn't
> collapse into anything. Now gfy, you hater.
Are you telling me that there was no damage to any other building
other than WTCs 1 & 2? You claim they came straight down.
I guess facts are hard to come by.
Dennis E Strausser Jr
news:2145c5f9-0d3f-4fe5...@k7g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>> Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:17cc4f75-bcfa-42f0-9c09-
>> 06be17...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>> >> On Aug 21, 2:22 pm, SHOOTER586 <shooter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> All right, you paid govt shill. So what caused the fires??. Fires hot
>> >> enough to collapse the building???
>> >
>> > Did you miss the fact that a flaming 110-story skyscraper collapsed
>> > into it, hmmmmmmm?
>> >
>>
>>
>> No i didn't hear that, you moron. The twin towers came str8 down and
>> didn't
>> collapse into anything. Now gfy, you hater.
>
> BWAAHAHHAHAAAAA!!! So you're one of them "fell straight down" morons
> who can't even look at the video and see the huge spreading umbrella
> of thousands of tons of steel that fell *well outside* the building
> footprionts!!! Hooo-hooo-hooooooo!!!!!
I have to correct something first though...
http://www.geocities.com/ravingraichudebunks911/
The steel had no where else to go. So it had to "What you typed above."
>
> BWAHAHAHAAAA!! Tell us, moron, what you "think" punctured the WTC7
> building and the Bankers Trust/Deutsche Bank building!! As well as
> Verizon Building from WTC7 debris!!!
NO,,..
Some of these people won't get it!!
When a thing get pushed, or left go into high speeds, it takes
time to slow down.
Rollercoaster's,,.. :-)
The debris from the first building were moving pretty fast..
But instead of a fun uphill climb to slow it down, it ran into WTC7, and
started fires.
The only difference is in the way the two objects got moving. And the way
they slowed down.
A Rollercoaster's much more fun though, and what happen on 9-11 stinks.
Gravity still works in both places though.
>
> Holy cow, what a stupid moron you are!!! The videos show the huge
> debris circumference and yet you "think" it fell into its own
> footprint!!
Why not ask, why WTC6 and 5 weren't still standing?
They'll probably have some sort of lame explanation for that.
>
> BWAHAHAAAHAHHAAAA!!!!
Fievel.
Dennis E Strausser Jr
>
> I guess facts are hard to come by.
LOL.....
Fievel.
BDK
@yahoo.com says...
Wow, the level of kooktardishness has increased geometrically.
You guys are amazing.
Thanks for all the laughs!!
--
BDK
BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster
Dennis E Strausser Jr
"BDK" <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2318248e1...@news.buckeye-express.com...
At least their good for something...
Fievel.
BDK
dlwstr...@comcast.net says...
They're the court jesters of the 21st Century.
Al Dykes
There were many building hit by the collapse of WTC1 and 2. Here is
an overview of all of them.
http://mceer.buffalo.edu/publications/wtc/02-SP02Screen.pdf
--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
Dennis E Strausser Jr
You know, I was kind of hopping someone would correct what
I got wrong on my site so far. I know where I got something wrong.
I was waiting for a correction on it.
I'll be working on part two today, or the collapse of the second building.
No CD explosions no matter what those CT'ers want to say.
http://www.geocities.com/ravingraichudebunks911/
Fievel...
BTW, this was just on the news where I live.. Same as with building 7.
Announcing no CD explosions in WTC7,,.. LOL
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
news:2145c5f9-0d3f-4fe5...@k7g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>> Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:17cc4f75-bcfa-42f0-9c09-
>>
>> No i didn't hear that, you moron. The twin towers came str8 down and
>> didn't collapse into anything. Now gfy, you hater.
>
> BWAAHAHHAHAAAAA!!! So you're one of them "fell straight down" morons
> who can't even look at the video and see the huge spreading umbrella
> of thousands of tons of steel that fell *well outside* the building
> footprionts!!! Hooo-hooo-hooooooo!!!!!
>
WOW - you govt shills are even more desperate than i thought. Even NIST
admits the twin towers came str8 down. Ever hear of the "pancake theory".
HAHAHA
Government Shill #2
MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:2145c5f9-0d3f-4fe5...@k7g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>> Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:17cc4f75-bcfa-42f0-9c09-
>
>>>
>>> No i didn't hear that, you moron. The twin towers came str8 down and
>>> didn't collapse into anything. Now gfy, you hater.
>>
>> BWAAHAHHAHAAAAA!!! So you're one of them "fell straight down" morons
>> who can't even look at the video and see the huge spreading umbrella
>> of thousands of tons of steel that fell *well outside* the building
>> footprionts!!! Hooo-hooo-hooooooo!!!!!
>>
>
>WOW - you govt shills are even more desperate than i thought. Even NIST
>admits the twin towers came str8 down. Ever hear of the "pancake theory".
>HAHAHA
What a liar you are.
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
"NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is
premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers
(the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the
perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel “trusses” integrated with a
concrete slab; see diagram below). Instead, the NIST investigation showed
conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns
initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required
the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns
inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking
phenomenon."
--
Shill #2
Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Me
BDK
Their vids almost always really show the opposite of what they claim to
prove. That's what makes some of them so damn funny.
Dennis E Strausser Jr
If they fell Str8 down, why weren't buildings 5 and 6 still standing?
Dennis E Strausser Jr
so I can fix it?
Thanks Much,,... And please post it, this is a real email address BTW....
Fievel..
Iarnrod
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:2145c5f9-0d3f-4fe5...@k7g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>
> >> No i didn't hear that, you moron. The twin towers came str8 down and
> >> didn't collapse into anything. Now gfy, you hater.
>
> > BWAAHAHHAHAAAAA!!! So you're one of them "fell straight down" morons
> > who can't even look at the video and see the huge spreading umbrella
> > of thousands of tons of steel that fell *well outside* the building
> > footprionts!!! Hooo-hooo-hooooooo!!!!!
>
> WOW - you govt shills are even more desperate than i thought.
Desperate? You gotta be kidding?? We're friggin' LAUGHING at you
clowns who know nothing about physics and can't even be bothered to
actually look at the videos.
> Even NIST
> admits the twin towers came str8 down.
Honey, "straight down" is gravity. But the debris scattered wide.
That's not even questionable any more. Haven;t you actuall SEEN the
videos of the collapses? BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA!!! You kookers are more
desperate than we thought!
> Ever hear of the "pancake theory".
> HAHAHA
No. Who holds to that?
You are too stupid to even know that you are stupid!!
Dennis E Strausser Jr
news:g8m6qu$odp$1...@panix5.panix.com...
> In article <Xns9B01CEFCF8C06r...@216.168.3.70>,
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:17cc4f75-bcfa-42f0-9c09-
>>06be17...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>>> On Aug 21, 2:22 pm, SHOOTER586 <shooter...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> All right, you paid govt shill. So what caused the fires??. Fires hot
>>>> enough to collapse the building???
>>>
>>> Did you miss the fact that a flaming 110-story skyscraper collapsed
>>> into it, hmmmmmmm?
>>>
>>
>>
>>No i didn't hear that, you moron. The twin towers came str8 down and
>>didn't
>>collapse into anything. Now gfy, you hater.
SHOOTER586
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:2145c5f9-0d3f-4fe5...@k7g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>
> >> No i didn't hear that, you moron. The twin towers came str8 down and
> >> didn't collapse into anything. Now gfy, you hater.
>
> > BWAAHAHHAHAAAAA!!! So you're one of them "fell straight down" morons
> > who can't even look at the video and see the huge spreading umbrella
> > of thousands of tons of steel that fell *well outside* the building
> > footprionts!!! Hooo-hooo-hooooooo!!!!!
>
> WOW - you govt shills are even more desperate than i thought. Even NIST
> admits the twin towers came str8 down. Ever hear of the "pancake theory".
> HAHAHA
But, you notice they didn't say no other buildings were damaged like
you are "trying" to claim. So, if I get this right, you are claiming
that a 1100 foot building collapses 300 feet away from another and the
other building has no damage?
Dennis E Strausser Jr
--------------------------------------------
Yeah, didn't you read what I said earlier?
They just sort of fell apart on their own...
LOL
Denny,,,.. Fievel,,,..
SHOOTER586
wrote:
> "SHOOTER586" <shooter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
It must have been the silent explosives!
Dennis E Strausser Jr
-----------------------------------------
Oh yeah, I must've forgot that....
lol....
Fievel.
Iarnrod
Don't forget invisible too!
Dennis E Strausser Jr
SHOOTER586 wrote:
> On Aug 22, 3:21?pm, "Dennis E Strausser Jr" <dlwstraus...@comcast.net>
-------------------------------------------------
Oh yeah, I forgot they found a way to hide those extremely bright flashes..
How could I forget that?!?
LOL
Fievel.
Whoshaq
in most scenario's for abandoned buildings you see demo'd on tv or
video,etc.
Obviously, after an expert alluded to in the failed 1993 WTC
demolition plan of the terrorists, that if the bomb were just 10-12
feet closer to the core column in the basement, it would of brought
the whole tower down.
***************
[[[[[ On February 26, 1993, a 1,200-pound bomb in a van exploded in
the parking garage beneath the World Trade Center.
If the van had been parked a few feet closer to one of the pillars, it
could have collapsed an entire tower of the Trade Center, killing tens
of thousands.
An FBI explosives expert later states that, “If they had found
the exact architectural Achilles’ heel or if the bomb had been a
little bit bigger, not much more, 500 pounds more, I think it would
have brought her down.” ]]]]]
**************
So, do not expect to see video evidence that shows via footage or
audio images revealing numerous or obvious several endless loud
explosions.
READ UK Engineering's Gordon Ross's expert analysis to show you how a
more covert method would have to be used to as not to be obvious but
yet just as effective when your using assisted aggravations to the
structures (planes, fires,etc).
http://gordonssite.tripod.com/id2.html
VIDEO EVIDENCE OF WTC'S CONTROLLED DEMOLITIONS:
Proof that not all demo's have to have numerous loud and visible
charges
going off.
Controlled demolition of the Philips building - in Oslo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyyHQQXX_0&feature=related
WTC Explosions pops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCLRfxv6DWc
MOLTEN STEEL - EVIDENCE OF THERMITE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM7HI4kjtvA&feature=related
9/11: Total Proof That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw
Explosions on 911
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRs1fv8i3I
Barry Jennings(33 years -NYC Office for Emergency Management) on WT7
9/11 explosions, bodies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PSziAiD9jM
Explosions before planes hit WTC 911 9/11 (witnesses)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3uFvOiTNz4
WTC witness Arthur Del Bianco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nYx-vG5cKA
Ground Zero ironworkers on 9/11 anomalies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCrinZM9b2Q
FDNY 9/11 Statements WTC Bombs Explosions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htTJOeSN0u8
Gordon Ross VIDEO analyses the destruction of the World Trade Center
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4801566025292753615
NIST Lies about WTC's
http://www.911review.com/articles/ryan/lies_about_wtc.html
WTC 7 HARD FACTS
http://www.911hardfacts.com/report_07.htm
REPLY to NIST:
http://gordonssite.tripod.com/id3.html
QUICK SUMMARY OF U.S. & OTHER GOVERNMENT INVOLVMENT (COMPLICITIES)
MOTIVE:
In the summer of 2000, the Project for the New American Century
(PNAC), a neo-conservative think tank riddled with soon to be Bush
administration officials and advisors, issued a document calling for
the radical restructuring of U.S. government and military policies. It
advocated the massive expansion of defense spending, the re-invasion
of Iraq, the military and economic securing of Afghanistan and Central
Asia, increased centralized power and funds for the CIA, FBI, and NSA,
among a slew of other policies that would, in the near future, be
enacted upon their ascension to power. In the same document, they cite
a potential problem with their plan. Referring to the goals of
transforming the U.S. and global power structure, the paper states
that because of the American Public's slant toward ideas of democracy
and freedom, "this process of transformation is likely to be a long
one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl
Harbor." (ibid.)
PNAC members, and signees to its policy documents, include: Dick
Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wofowitz, Jeb Bush, Richard Perle, John
Bolton, Scooter Libby, Elliot Abrams, Richard Armitage, William
Bennet, William Kristol, and Zalmy Khalilzad - men with their hands
deep in the private defense, oil, and multi-national corporate
industries poised to make vast sums of money and secure huge tracts of
power and influence if PNAC policy evolved into U.S. Government
policy. Nine months after they rose to power, and assumed central
positions of leadership up and down the spectrum of military,
civilian, domestic, and international agencies, they got their 'New
Pearl Harbor'. And PNAC policy essentially evolved into the Bush
Administration's official agenda. While this alarmingly convenient
coincidence does not prove anything in and of itself, it does
establish motive. And it certainly would raise the eyebrows of concern
from any serious investigator looking into the facts of September 11.
1) BUSH ELECTED AS PRESIDENT BY ELECTION FRAUD. 57,000 + African
American's votes are not allowed because each citizen shows a FELONY
on their record.Investigation soon shows that these were fabricated by
right wing elements involved in the Bush and republican party.
[[[ U.S. media have lost the will to dig deep By Greg Palast 27 Apr
2007 Back in December 2000, I received two computer disks from the
office of Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris. Analysis of the
data, plus documents that fell my way, indicated that Harris' office
had purged thousands of African Americans from Florida's voter rolls
as "felons." Florida now admits that many of these voters were not in
fact felons. Nevertheless, the scam helped cost Al Gore the White
House. I reported on the phony felon purge in Britain's Guardian and
Observer and on the BBC while Gore was still in the race, while the
count was still on. Yet the story of the Florida purge never appeared
in the U.S. daily papers or on television. Until months later, that
is, after the Supreme Court had decided the election, when it was
picked up by the Washington Post and others. U.S. papers delayed the
story until the U.S. Civil Rights Commission issued a report saying
our Guardian/BBC story was correct... At that point, protected by the
official imprimatur, American editors felt it safe enough to venture
out with the story. But by then, George W. Bush could read it from his
chair in the Oval Office. ]]]
2) PNAC,Neocons,& other Bush officials with main architect and PNAC
member Douglas Feith drawing up plans to attack Iraq and Afghanistan
PRIOR to the 9/11 attacks.Later, Bush would use 9/11 as a reason to go
to war in these regions for his fight in the WAR AGAINST TERROR
despite plans to do so BEFORE 9/11.WMD's propaganda did not work.
Attempt to tie 9/11 with Iraq failed.And many more acts of complicit
nature.
3) BUSH OFFICIALS,CIA,FBI,etc ignore Intel info,warnings,especially
Bush ignoring a 8/6/2001 PDB memo that had referred to via the title
"Bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S." with specific targets
mentioned such as plane used as weapons in NYC and D.C. - instead he
goes on vacation and ends up in a classroom in his brother's state
reading a story about MY PET GOAT while holding the book upside down
(at one point).Andy Card and several members of his administration who
NEVER travel with the President, are ironically with him that day in
that Sarasota,Florida elementary school.No one from his Secret Service
remove him from the classroom despite the Bush occupied school now
being an obvious terrorist target (at the time the planes were
reportedly striking the WTC's).
I DREW UP AN OUTLINE OF EVENTS TITLED UNDER THE FITTING TITLE BELOW:
HEGELIAN PRINCIPLE (tool that the globalists are utilizing to
manipulate the minds of the average American to accept that change,
where ordinarily they would refuse it ).Also known as DIALETIC.
-False Flag Operations
GOOGLE "OPERATION NORTHWOODS" , "REICHSTAG FIRE", "FDR FOREKNOWLEDGE
OF PEARL HARBOR",AND "GULF OF TONKIN".
IT'S BEEN DONE HUNDREDS OF TIMES OVER THE YEARS.INCLUDING EVIDENCE OF
FALSE FLAG EVENTS CONSPIRED BY RUMSFELD,BUSH, AND CHENEY FROM 2002 TO
2008 (Most recent was faking a confrontation with an Iranian boat to
instigate a war, which was proved to be a fraud -- 2/2008)
THE ISRAEL CONNECTION:
- 200 ISRAEL MOSSAD/SPIES arrested on 9/11 and just after
-Dual Israel-U.S. Citizens Running the Country
-The Israel Lobby
-Ex - PM Sharon,the man who owns our Congress
-PNAC:The Documents, Signatories & Literature
JOHN O'NEIL (FBI AGENT purposely stonewalled on U.S.S. Cole
investigation involving Bin Laden and then fired and hired to run the
WTC's security the day before 9/11. He dies in the WTC 1 on
9/11.Quoted as telling Jerome Hauer just weeks before 9/11 that the
WTC's were "coming down soon".
- Who stonewalled him & why?
-Obssession with Bin Laden
-Jerome Hauer:Friend or Foe?
9/11 ATTACKS
-The Players (U.S. Government,CIA,Israel Lobby,Israel Mossad,Saudi
officials, Pakistan ISI (Intel), Bin Laden as CIA asset,Mohammed Atta
as CIA asset)
-Foreknowledge (too numerous to mention.26 countries fed warnings to
the U.S. whom conveniently ignored them.Israeli Mossad members
arrested for filming first plane and celebrating across from the first
WTC that was attacked, and admit to coming to the U.S. to "document
the event".They are detained for a month and released without
explanation from the FBI or gov't officials.
John Ashcroft warned to stop flying on commercial jetliners in July
2001.
-Ignored Warnings (Intelligence Data from CIA,FBI,NSA,Able Danger
ops, other Nations, SEE ABOVE, PDB Memo's,etc)
-Able Danger -(Army Intel Operation that had Atta and 4 hijackers
pegged thru pc data mining and followed movements up to late 2000 but
higher ups ordered Lt. Colonel Schafer & other Lt's to destroy all
data mining information collected, which equaled 1/3 of the Library
House of Congress.Hearings in 2006 falsely ruled that the Army lied
about this operation.Another coverup akin to the 9/11 Commission
coverup.
-Drills pre-9/11 and on 9/11 - Simulated hijacking of planes used as
weapons into NYC and D.C. targets & other regions (North of Alaska)
are performed just prior to 9/11 and on the morning of 9/11 -- the
latter just as the first plane hit the South Tower.A military drill
simulating a terrorist attack on the ground for the Pentagon was
planned that morning but cancelled when the NYC attacks were reported.
-NORAD Standdown - TSA chairman Mineta gives the only truely damning
evidence , or at least one that the commission took serious when
Mineta admitted that Cheney ordered stand down's to NORAD. The FAA
admits to destroying all recorded transmissions, claiming it was
policy.No fighter jets are scrambled in time, with the latter flight
93 in Pa. showing signs of being shot down though (admitted by
Rumsfeld to the press by mistake) and plane debris spread for up to 6
miles away.No plane parts in the field of location.No body parts
found.
-The Pentagon Mystery - Flight 77 vs. Pentagon damage vs. debris
field and so on.All 85 security film from the camera's remain
UNRELEASED except for one four frame clip that only shows a brief
grainy object and then fireball explosion against Pentagon's side
where it was under construction for reinforced concreting.This side
included floors that kept information from the comptroller of the
Pentagon finances whom publicly reported (by Rumsfeld) of over $2.3
Trillion missing.Dov Zakheim ,a PNAC member and comptroller at the
time, was also the CEO of a company that made airplane remote control
device attachments.
-Financiers (Saudi Arabia & specifically the Pakistan ISI Chief who
wired $100,000 to Atta a week prior to 9/11...this same Chief was
meeting with Senators Bob Graham and Porter Ross in the Pentagon on
the morning of 9/11 just prior to the attacks)
-Atta the Agent (Atta, clearly the leader, and the hijackers were
witnessed in Strip joints,drinking booze,and hiring
escorts...completely refuting the official U.S. story that they were
fanatical Islamic religious zealots who wanted to die for Islam to get
the so called virgins,etc. Atta was reported to still be alive by his
Father after 9/11 and CNN and Fox report that at least 9 of the
hijackers are still alive..but the 9/11 Commission ignore this
information and the mainstream U.S. citizens have no idea.Despite this
report, most of American believe the Government's ludicrous Conspiracy
Theory that 19 hijackers on orders of the U.S. government's
bogeyman,Bin Laden, a rich man who lives in mountainous caves were
able to fly in schools, breach all security points in
airports,etc,penetrate the most expensive and higly trained Defense in
the world and then have some of the pilots (most notably Hanjour)who
instructors admitted that they could not maneuver small Cessna's) able
to fly jumbo jetliners perfectly into 3 structures.Note that Hanjour
flew a 280 degree sharp turn around the Pentagon and then was able to
swoop down and nail the Pentagon by flying just a few feet off of the
ground.
-The Patsies (Some of the hijackers)
-Physics & Engineering & How
Popular Mechanics was in on the coverup (They can only debunk the
physical aspects which were easily rebuttable.But the fact thet
Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff's relative Ben Chertoff was
editor of the coverup hit piece --- you can throw this out the window
along with NIST's faux final WTC #7 report)
OTHER ELEMENTS IN THE COVERUP:
-Commission & Corrupution in the Investigation
-Media Coverup & Corporate Control
-The Whistle Blowers
- Patriots for Truth Movement
-Citizens Truth Movement Phenomenom
-Why Many Americans are in Denial?
-Psychological Effect on the Truth
IRAQ WAR
-Gulf War '91 & Saddam's Escape
-Iraq War -"Mission Accomplished"!
-What War on Terror?
-WMD's Lies & the Men Who told them
-Privatization & Mass Profiteering
- False Puppet Government
-How the war was designed to fail
MIDDLE EAST
-Iran & Nuclear potential
-Israel's Nuclear Secret & The Double Standard
-Pakistan -Shared Intelligence;the Death of Bhutto; OBL Dead?
- Afghanistan - Gas Pipelines & Controlling the Poppy Fields
-Saudi Arabia & the who,what,where's of their Funding
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How many people believe 9/11 was an inside job? Below are results of 8
polls by Zogby, Scripps, Angus Reid, 911Inquiry.Org and some non-
scientific polls also.
Scientific Polls:
CBS/Angus Reid, Oct 2006
58% say that gov't officials are "lying" in the 9/11 Commission Report
- only 16% say they are telling the truth when asked the question
"When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about
possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think
members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly
telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?"
(LIHOP theory)
Link: http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/...
ZOGBY, Feb 2006
49.3% of New York City residents and 41% of New York citizens overall
say that some of our leaders "knew in advance that attacks were
planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously
failed to act".
(LIHOP theory)
Link: http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.db...
SCRIPPS/HOWARD, July 2006
36% of respondents overall said it is "very likely" or "somewhat
likely" that federal officials either participated in the attacks on
the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them
"because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle
East."
(Covers both LIHOP and MIHOP theories)
Link: http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll
911INQUIRY.ORG, May 2004
63% of Canadians agreed that "Individuals within the U.S. Government
including the White House had prior knowledge of the plans for the
events of September 11th, and failed to take appropriate action to
stop them". Additionally, 16% of Canadians believe that individuals
within the U.S. Government were involved in the planning and execution
of the events of September 11th. (47% LIHOP, 16% MIHOP, 63% combined)
Link: http://www.911inquiry.org/911PollResu...
Non-Scientific Polls:
MSNBC, Sept 2006 up to present (Oct 2007)
"Do you believe any of the conspiracy theories suggesting the U.S.
government was somehow involved in 9/11?"
(Covers both LIHOP and MIHOP theories)
YES: 67%
link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14727720
CNN, Nov 2004
"Do you believe there is a US government cover up surrouning 911?"
(Question is too vague to specify LIHOP or MIHOP - could be
interpreted as a coverup of incompetence only)
YES: 89%
Link: http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept...
COLBERT NATION, June 2006
"Was 9/11 an inside job?" (MIHOP)
YES: 66%
Link: removed
AM 640 Radio Toronto, August 2006
"Was 9/11 an inside job?" (MIHOP)
YES: 85%
Link: http://640toronto.com/station/corus_q...
Whoshaq
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Whoshaq
Al Dykes
Whoshaq <who...@aol.com> wrote:
>The demolitions of the WTC's were done via conventional methods seen
>in most scenario's for abandoned buildings you see demo'd on tv or
>video,etc.
>
>Obviously, after an expert alluded to in the failed 1993 WTC
>demolition plan of the terrorists, that if the bomb were just 10-12
>feet closer to the core column in the basement, it would of brought
>the whole tower down.
>
The 1993 bomb was 6 floors below ground level and it was heard all
over downtown and throught the floors of all the WTC towers.
Now you say there were even more but nobody herd them?
What a moroon.
Al Dykes
Whoshaq <who...@aol.com> wrote:
>The demolitions of the WTC's were NOT done via conventional methods
>seen
>in most scenario's for abandoned buildings you see demo'd on tv or
>video,etc.
>
>Obviously, after an expert alluded to in the failed 1993 WTC
>demolition plan of the terrorists, that if the bomb were just 10-12
>feet closer to the core column in the basement, it would of brought
>the whole tower down.
>
You are repeating yourself. It was stupid the first time,
Al Dykes
Whoshaq <who...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRs1fv8i3I
POINT A
100s of thousands of people, maybe a million, watched the towers
collapse from points close enough to hear an explosion if it was as
loud as that "Church and Murray" video would have us believe. All New
Yorkers know many people that witnesses the collapse, many from
moments after the first impact. Any explosion that loud would have
been reported on and widely discussed. It wasn't. I know many people
that were below Canal St on 9/11. All New Yorkers do. We all know
people that ware IN a WTC tower on 9/11.
If you believe the k00k videos, "9/11 Eyewitness" by James Brewster
and "9/11 Mysteries" by Sophia Shafquat, these explosions were audible
from the Jersey shore, two miles away. That radius would put millions
of people within listening range of any explosions. There is no other
report of "explosions" consistent with a collapse of a WTC tower.
(Rick Siegel, The original film maker testifies that the audio is a
fraud [See below]. We know he speaks the truth because the sounds on
the k00k videos isn't delayed by 5 seconds/mile. )
I'm a New Yorker that was in Manhattan on 9/11. I saw parts of what we
call "9/11".
I know when the "Half Truth Movement" speaks of things I saw, they get
it wrong, sometimes hilariously so. The "Truth Movement" events in NYC
have essentially zero attendance, the place with the highest
concentration of witnesses to the events of WTC.
I live in the suburb to Manhattan that has, I'm informed, the highest
concentration of dead firemen, 9/11 First Responders and families of
victims of 9/11, anywhere. To say that these people find the claims
of the "Truth Movement" silly is an understement.
POINT B
There is no same-day reporting of anything consistent with man-made
demolition. All the archives for the media coverage of WTC are
online. I know there is nothing because I read those papers and
watched the local TV news on 9/11 and afterwards.
POINT C;
Because the video archives of hundreds of hours of WTC video have
nothing consistent with a man-made demolition.
There are hundreds of hours of video of WTC "in the can". These are
public archives that are the source of the stuff that the "Half Truth
Movement" cherry-picks from. Anyone can examine this material. Nobody
has found so much as a few seconds of video with a very loud noise
followed by the beginning of the collapse in the video. As described
in one of the books named below, there were many video cameras on
operation filming the WTC towers from all angles starting moments
after the first impact.
Here are three.
The Internet Archive
http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive
Video Archive:
http://www.cameraplanet.com/
...images, captured largely by amateurs, are moments from more
than 500 hours of videos and films, the largest collection of raw
visual data from what historians say is the best-documented
catastrophe in history. About 1,700 clips from the collection have
attracted more than a million hits in the three months since they
were put on Google Video.
POINT D; Sources:
My own eye and ears and the eyes and eyes of the people I know that
were in WTC buildings on 9/11 and on "the pile" for weeks, afterwards.
Book: _Nine Months at Ground Zero_ By Stout, Vitchers, & Gray
Book: _A nation challenged : a visual history of 9/11 and its aftermath_ By Callaway
Book: _Watching The world change; The Stories behind the images of 9/11_ By David Friend
Book: _102 Minutes_ by Dwyer & Flynn
Transcripts of FDNY responders at WTC on 911
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/
20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html
http://preview.tinyurl.com/7e62l
XXXXXX VIDEO FAKERY XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Rick Siegel, the person that shot video of the WTC collapse
from Hoboken, 2 miles away, shows his original video and
compares it to the the versions used in two "Truth Movement"
conspiracy videos; "9/11 Eyewitness" by James Brewster and
"9/11 Mysteries" by Sophia Shafquat.
Siegel shows that the "explosions" heard on 9/11 Mysteries and
9/11 Eyewitness are, in fact, not on his the original tape.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jir7yWTroN8
Brewster & Shafquat claim the sounds are evidence of man-made
explosives at WTC. Someone manipulated the sound track to make
those noises.
WTC on 9/11 was probably the most-witnessed disaster in history.
For more information about all the imagery we have for it read the
book, "Watching The world change; The Stories behind the images
of 9/11" by David Friend
For more information about fact-based 9/11, go to
http://911mysteriesguide.com/
and
911myths.com
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