Once you start talking about 911, esp Building 7, it becomes obvious that
the media was in on the cover-up right from the start. And they can never
concede that.
No doubt there are some individual reporters and writers that know or at
least suspect the truth - but they face the loss of their jobs and even
blacklisting should they say anything. The media, as with all big
corpserations, have fallen under the control of the mass-murdering fascists
that deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, if not perpetrated it. What we
need is an "undergound" free press. Such media played a big role in late
1960s politics and the ending of the Vietnam war.
It would be wrong to cut off contact with the terror group just because
they may have killed people "in a way that we hate."
-- Bill Clinton.
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
and other potential adversaries around the world that
they can change our policies by killing our people.
It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93
just before he pulled out of Somalia
This is Clinton's Bridge the 21st Century,
a shot heard round the world declaring Open Season on ALL PEOPLE.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/117871.gif
---
LIB's plead for a Morality which holds COMPROMISE as it's standard of
Value, making it possible to judge Virtue on the basis of the number of
Values which one is willing to Betray.
Can either of you explain why *none* of the shareholders of the insurance
companies - ordinary people whose pensions and incomes have been damaged by
the insurers having to pay massive settlements - haven't shown up at the
AGMs and demanded that the insurers recover the payouts from those you say
are responsible?
Your premise is that journalists don't speak up because they'll suffer
financially. Well, these people are ALREADY suffering financially, there
are thousands and thousands of them, and NONE are speaking up at AGMs and
demanding their money be recovered.
Remember that insurers conduct their own investigations, and aren't bound by
the same rules government agencies are.
If you can't convincingly explain why this is the case, your "intimidation
of media" argument is meaningless, in fact it's disproved.
Shall I wait?
-pk
Huh?
"The Media" was reporting, all afternoon, that WTC7 was on fire and
about to collapse. I saw this TV report at about 4:30 PM on 9/11.
WTC7 collapsed at 5:30. This matwerial is in the archives.
NBC TV news report showing WTC7 on fire and at risk of collapse.
This was broadcast at 4:48PM.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3859529288033431294
]
9/11/01 LIVE! News/Amateur Video World Trade Center Part 4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DpAHh-yT25Q&feature=related
WTC7 on fire at 0:44
1:10
More WTC7 fire vidoes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U&feature=related
] Even more WTC7 fire vidoes.
http://www.911myths.com/index.php/WTC7_Fire_Videos
The archives of all the NYC media outlets report, in detail, what
happened and NYC folks that were eyewitnesses to WTC read the news
coverage and absolutely NOBODY said at the time, or since that any
specific report didn't jive with what they saw.
I saw parts of WTC on 9/11 and the media reported what I saw
correctly. I know NYC firemen that were at WTC on 9/11. They say the
media reported what they saw corrrectly.
The "Media" reported the full text transcripts of what the firemen
reported. Here it is.
Full text transcripts for those names: http://preview.tinyurl.com/36rak3
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/
nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html
These books and one video tell describe what happened and what
the media reported.
_AFTERMATH: World Trade Center Archive_
By Joel Meyerowitz
http://www.joelmeyerowitz.com/photography/book_aftermath.asp
(images on web site)
FDNY Film
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6371069744838112957&q=Naudet
Book: _Nine Months at Ground Zero_
By Stout, Vitchers, & Gray
Book: _A nation challenged : a visual history of 9/11 and its aftermath_
By Callaway
Book: _Watching The world change; The Stories behind the images of 9/11
By David Friend
Book: _102 Minutes_ by Dwyer & Flynn
p.67. Steel spans buckled in 1975 fire.
(probably from NIST Interim Report May 2003, P.20)
--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
It's all in the vidoe archives of teh TV NYC TV stations. Fo instance,
MSNBC reported well becore WTC7 fell that it was due to collapse due
to fire.
NBC TV news report showing WTC7 on fire and at risk of collapse.
This was broadcast at 4:48PM.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3859529288033431294
The Internet Archive has thouands of hours of network TV video from
9/11.
The Internet Archive
http://www.archive.org/details/sept_11_tv_archive
Camera Planet has lots of original video, possibly duplicating what
TIA has.
...images, captured largely by amateurs, are moments from more
than 500 hours of videos and films, the largest collection of raw
visual data from what historians say is the best-documented
catastrophe in history. About 1,700 clips from the collection have
attracted more than a million hits in the three months since they
were put on Google Video.
These books describe what was reported on 9/11,
If the "Truth Movement" really had evidence of fraud for WTC7, all
they have to do is find the names of Silverstein's insurance companies
(on the public record) and buy one share of stock on each and show up
at the annual stockholders meeting and announce that here was evidence
that a billion bucks should be paid to the stockholders instead of
Silverstein.
Oh. I forgot. Insurance and how stock and what stockholders works is
one more thing the children in the "Truth Movement" are ignorant of.
BWHAHAHAHAHA! You need another change of medication. I think the docs
have just about run out of things to try.
--
BDK
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster
WOW, it's a kookoff! One kook trying to become king of the kooktards!
That's their point. The media was in on it and lying about the
building's condition so when the invisable, silent explosives brought
the building down, they could claim it was in the process of happening
for hours.
Scary, isn't it?
The kooks being able to run around loose, that's scary.
> In article <Xns9ADE6A770BFri...@216.168.3.70>, xeton2001
> @yahoo.com says...
>>
>>
>>
>> Once you start talking about 911, esp Building 7, it becomes obvious
>> that the media was in on the cover-up right from the start. And they
>> can never concede that.
>>
>
>
> BWHAHAHAHAHA! You need another change of medication. I think the docs
> have just about run out of things to try.
>
BDK - the board notes that you evaded the issue and just made your usual
childish personal attack. GFY you pathetic hatefilled miserable wretch!!
HAHAHA. You govt shills are really desperate. You have no arguments.
All you can do is call the truthers kooks. GFY, you hater.
We have an underground press - the internet, and it's doing a great job of
telling people about 911.
Scary, isn't it?
What's really scary, is you believing less then two weeks is enough time
to plant explosives in three very large buildings, to take them down.
Hell, just one building would take at least one month to just place the
explosives
into. If it wouldn't take even longer.
It takes quite a bit of time to plan, plant explosives, and take down a much
smaller building.
In a window of a week and a half?
They guessed WTC7 was on fire soon after the second building was hit.
At this point, the entire WTC complex had been evacuated, no one would've
known WTC7 was on fire, because WTC1 and WTC2 were center of
attention. The thing was burning out of control for around four hours, till
someone
noticed. That was at about 2PM. And from what I'm reading, the news seems
to be the first people who took notice.
See also Popular Mechanics Magazine.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
How bout we take a 707 Plane, and place it on your car?
It's a much smaller plane, but it would smash your car.
The only big difference is, those floors were made to take on quite a bit
more
weight then your car. And would've stayed together if a 707 hit the
buildings.
However, they got hit with 757's, which weigh quite a bit more....
Weight each floor could withstand, about 1300 Tons.
They got hit with in-between 1500 to 2000 Tons.
Why did the second building go first?
Maybe the fact that the core of each tower was empty?
It would mean, that because the plane hit more directly, a lot of it fell
down the center of the core. It was still too much weight for the building
to withstand, but it took longer before the weight of the plane took out
the floor, where the heaviest of the planes parts would've been. When that
entire
floor fell on top of the one below it, total wait would've been over 1600
Tons.
Almost double when you go down four floors. As the weight built up, the
floors
fell faster and faster. The normal law of gravity does not apply, when
weight
keeps rising. Actuall, gravity is what took them down.
So I guess you could blame it on our gravitational pull. (LOL)
What I mean by that is, drop a car and a stone from two stories up,
they'll both land at the same time.
Coming to think about it, the buildings falling at near freefall speed,
seems
totally logical,,.
Now, people that believe the CT's, here's your chance.
Fievel.
I don't beleieve that. If you've read any of my posts, you'd know
that. I was being sarcastic on what I believe the position is for
those who DO believe.
I don't believe in silent, invisable explosives, nor in the
"controlled demolition" theory.
Sorry if my sarcasim (sp) didn't come across correctly.
Have to call them as we see them. I don't hate anybody.
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible
positions.
Thomas Jefferson
--
Shill #2
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
theobviousgcashman
Book: _Touching History_ by Lynn Spencer ...
Touching History: The Untold Story of the Drama That Unfolded
in the Skies Over America on 9/11, Spencer, Lynn Spencer,
Hardcover, Book, ISBN: 1416559256, ...
Book: _Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11_
150 interviews with participants and eye-witnesses
BOOK: _Bomb Squad - A Year Inside the Nation's Most Exclusive Police Unit_
by Richard Esposito and Ted Gerstein
See for a list of books and DVDs
http://911-engineers.blogspot.com/
Book: _AFTERMATH: World Trade Center Archive_
By Joel Meyerowitz
http://www.joelmeyerowitz.com/photography/book_aftermath.asp
(images on web site)
FDNY Film
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6371069744838112957&q=Naudet
Marks's collapse video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2083421624495848233&hl=en
Book: _Nine Months at Ground Zero_
By Stout, Vitchers, & Gray
Book: _A nation challenged : a visual history of 9/11 and its aftermath_
By Callaway
Book: _Watching The world change; The Stories behind the images of 9/11
By David Friend
Book: _102 Minutes_ by Dwyer & Flynn
p.67. Steel spans buckled in 1975 fire.
(probably from NIST Interim Report May 2003, P.20)
Video Archive:
http://www.cameraplanet.com/
...images, captured largely by amateurs, are moments from more
than 500 hours of videos and films, the largest collection of raw
visual data from what historians say is the best-documented
catastrophe in history. About 1,700 clips from the collection have
attracted more than a million hits in the three months since they
were put on Google Video.
What We saw - WTC7 & fire
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5370762387415552903
http://wtcbpc.blogspot.com/index.html
Fire - 10:25
11 02
13 17
17 26
Stunning Jewish Success Dominates American Media
MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report
and chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American
Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.
LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-
Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on
Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by
Clinton.
JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner
NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News
JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC
DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News
SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media
giant" (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over
the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.
MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.
RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the
World (Jewish mother)
MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS
DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS
JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS
DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS
SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment
LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment
BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.
SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of
Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.
HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.
BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.
PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp.,
owner of Fox TV
MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly
identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his
"mentor."
ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe
and other publications.
WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post.
Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel
media."
RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post
JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe
NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA
Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the
Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV
Producers, appointed by Clinton.
ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya's press secretary.
STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as an expert on
domestic terrorism.
DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times
network of "alternative weeklies."
DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund
KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle
East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker
BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal
Entertainment
KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch
RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which
represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer
and Bill O'Reilly.
TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.
MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL
WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL-
TimeWarner
JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment
JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2
SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment
GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment
STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks
LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment
JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment
MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America
AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures
JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations
ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications
BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment
IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications
WOLF BLITZER, host of CNN's Late Edition
LARRY KING, host of Larry King Live
TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline
ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter
PAULA ZAHN, CNN Host
MIKE WALLACE, Host of CBS, 60 Minutes
BARBARA WALTERS, Host, ABC's 20-20
MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review
BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week
DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of
CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post
HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek
WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
Project for a New American Century (PNAC)
RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle
PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,
RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San
Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets
MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations
DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has
Israeli flag on his home page.
BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think Tank.
ANDREW LACK, president of NBC
DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins
DAVID REZNIK, Editor, The New Yorker
NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York
HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker
SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications,
includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group,
includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement;
American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more
than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television
programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.
DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated Press.
PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's
RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.
LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group
Who Rules America?
http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/
>RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the
>World (Jewish mother)
She don't look Jewish:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Murdochfamily.jpg
Actually the board notes that BDK is correct in his assessment and
that you are a moron.
>
> >HAHAHA. You govt shills are really desperate. You have no arguments.
> >All you can do is call the truthers kooks. GFY, you hater.
>
> Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible
> positions.
> Thomas Jefferson
"unintelligible" HAHAHA. WTF kind of word is that? OMG - you paid
govt shills are a laugh a minute.
I remember an article by Harlan Ellison (The Other Glass Teat) where
he went on about a racist newsletter (The Thunderbolt) that was
talking about the Great Jewish Takeover of the world. First point he
made was; "I'm Jewish and nobody told me! I'm pissed off, I want my
share!" Later, he actually quotes an article from the paper about the
Jewish control of the medium and mentions the "Jewish leader" of ABC,
Harlan adds in a footnote; "Don't tell Elton Rule, he's the token Goy
at ABC!"
un+in+tel+li+gi+ble {adjective
not intelligible; not capable of being understood.
Synonyms incomprehensible, baffling, undecipherable.
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unintelligible
> On Jul 18, 3:56 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:10:53 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>>>HAHAHA. You govt shills are really desperate. You have no arguments.
>>>All you can do is call the truthers kooks. GFY, you hater.
>>
>>Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible
>>positions.
>> Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> "unintelligible" HAHAHA. WTF kind of word is that?
It's called English. Look it up.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=unintelligible
adjective - Not intelligible. Not capable of being understood
Origin 1610-1620
So you're having problems understanding a word that's almost 400 years
old!
>On Jul 18, 3:56 am, Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:10:53 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>>
>>
>>
>
>>
>> >HAHAHA. You govt shills are really desperate. You have no arguments.
>> >All you can do is call the truthers kooks. GFY, you hater.
>>
>> Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible
>> positions.
>> Thomas Jefferson
>
>"unintelligible" HAHAHA. WTF kind of word is that?
An English word. In use since the 1600s.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unintelligible
un�in�tel�li�gi�ble Pronunciation[uhn-in-tel-i-juh-buhl]
adjective not intelligible; not capable of being understood.
[Origin: 1610-20; un-1 + intelligible]
> OMG - you paid govt shills are a laugh a minute.
Not as funny as you illiterate kOOks.
--
Shill #2
Roses are red,
violets are blue,
one of us is a moron,
I think that it's you.
ROTFL, I didn't evade anything. I simply laughed at another post of
kooktard nonsense. Who is "the board", anyway? A group of kooktardish
buffoons like yourselves? Do you have monthly meetings at a nearby IHOP?
Thanks for the laughs!
Who exactly am I supposed to hate, kooktard?
I don't hate you kooks, I would hate for anything to happen to any of
you, it would be a huge loss to the world of comedy.
Sometimes the truth hurts. But really, if they spout their nonsense to
people around them, they have to have heard or seen comments like I made
before.
Oh... and the words are Thomas Jefferson's. Not mine.
I would have said "You're an idiot."
:-) Lol, then I hope the ones who do believe that crap read it too.
Like the one that started this thread.
Or anyone else on this thing that actually believe the CT's
Fievel.
You poor kooks are proof of problems with education over the last 25
years or so.
Unintelligible is one of the terms that fit you kooktards.
LOL, it's also telling people a lot about you poor kooktards, and it's
not good. Funny, but not good.
A kook look a fact up ?
Like that's going to happen
Speaking of evading the issue, are you ever going to get around to
explaining why *none* of the thousands and thousands and thousands of
insurer's shareholders are attending AGMs and requiring that the insurers
recover the settlement payouts from the people you think are responsible?
Do you think that all those people are in on the conspiracy, too, and are
happy to have their pensions and incomes lowered?
Do you even know what an AGM is?
-pk
Could give credit for trying.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=unintelligible
Origin 1610-1620
How bout another1 for him. Empathiccally.
Something I wish I could do myself, really.
Fievel....
Do you know what VCF is? Victim's Compensation Fund. It was set up
after 911 to pay all the victims and make sure they didn't go to court
where the truth might come out. Hush money taken from the taxpayers.
I don't think bush was in on it either but i still know it was an
inside job. Why tell a drunken idiot about your plans?
What your trying to suggest, is that less then two weeks is enough time
to plant explosives in two 110 story buildings. Plus one (?) number of
floors
of building 7
http://www.debunking911.com/WTC7.htm
At least some info on building 7.
Do you really think our government would lie about something like this?
The Government protects us from harm daily. There's so many threats against
this country, that if our Government stood back and did nothing, there would
be a lot
of hurt and dead people in this country.
Fievel.
Victims know there were more then one explosion, but no more then two.
I read of one of those, who reported getting the skin blown off his arms.
And even though he was almost carrying his own skin, was still trying to be
sure everyone was out of the elevator, and safe on the street, befoe he even
saw to his skinless arms. I cant even imagine the kind of pain he had to
endure.
Yet he was still able to be sure people were safe.
Not even that convinces me anymore that it was an inside job.
It took me over half a year to reseach the whole thing, to find out what
ever
of the CT's that can be proved, are minor at best.
Fievel.
"Inside job" is not possible. Sorry.
Sack would get chest pains just going to google. It's against his faith
to look at non kookpages, especially ones regarding claims the sacred
kookpages make about 911.
BWHAHAHAHA! You poor bastard, it looks like you have a terminal case of
kooktardism.
Wow, that story has morphed in the telling. I wnder who AQ's stock
proker is.
You can't cite the specific cases so we can't comment on them.
That the the "Truther Way".
The world was full of "puts" prior to 9/11/2011. You can cherrypick
all youi want, but the examples you pick are irrelevant when one looks
at all puts.
And it would be a crime to not report a crime.
Are you accusing the people that got VCF money (some of whom I know)
being part of a criminal cover-up of a criminal conspiracy?
Yes or no?
There is no explosion consistant with demolition heard or seen on any
of the countless video tapes made at WTC on 9/11. Everyone hauled out
their video cameras moments after the impact of the first jet.
No eyewitness quote describes hearing any explosion consistent with
man-made demolition.
Voluntary participation. The only thing the people who chose to accept
money from that fund agreed to was not sue the airlines. There's a good
reason the government didn't want the airline companies sued to kingdom
come. Fear that some "truth" would come out ain't it.
"Z" doesn't argue with that. That's his proof that "silent explosives"
exsist and the American government has been keeping them secret for
cases like this.
Fievel.
Fievel.
Fievel.
> Where exactly is it an inside job?
> Those Put Options came from Iraq and AlQuida and other countries
> in the middle east.
Well kooks don't have money in the way we workers and investors do.
They are unaware that the stock market is a worldwide market where any-
one from anywhere can have shares in foreign companies
Well of course it is. Anyone in the world can invest in the market.
I think I'm going to go mental, if those two make anymore replies to
things I've never typed.
Hm, the names Iarnrod iar...@yahoo.com & zasochimti zasoc...@gmail.com
It's going to drive me nuts.
Fievel...
>
> Yes I do. "Explosive waves" give off NOISE! "Tiny" explosives wouldn't
> have been able to do the damage necessary to force a collapse.
> Furthermore, the explosives that CAUSE the collapse have to go off
> BEFORE the collapse, not during it!
>
Lots of people heard explosives, you idiot. BTW - have you explained the
collapse of Building 7 yet?. The govt can't and they've been trying for 7
years.
> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote
> in message
>>
>>
>> Do you know what VCF is? Victim's Compensation Fund. It was set up
>> after 911 to pay all the victims and make sure they didn't go to
>> court where the truth might come out. Hush money taken from the
>> taxpayers.
>
> Victims know there were more then one explosion, but no more then two.
> I read of one of those, who reported getting the skin blown off his
> arms. And even though he was almost carrying his own skin, was still
> trying to be sure everyone was out of the elevator, and safe on the
> street, befoe he even saw to his skinless arms. I cant even imagine
> the kind of pain he had to endure.
> Yet he was still able to be sure people were safe.
> Not even that convinces me anymore that it was an inside job.
> It took me over half a year to reseach the whole thing, to find out
> what ever
> of the CT's that can be proved, are minor at best.
Minor??? What about Building 7. Can you explain it's collapse, The govt
can't.
>> On Jul 18, 4:00 pm, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>> > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com>
>
>>
>>
>> Do you know what VCF is? Victim's Compensation Fund. It was set up
>> after 911 to pay all the victims and make sure they didn't go to
>> court where the truth might come out. Hush money taken from the
>> taxpayers.
>>
>
> BWHAHAHAHA! You poor bastard, it looks like you have a terminal case
> of kooktardism.
>
Again the board laughingstock resorts to childish personal attacks because
he has no arguments. HAHAHA
Then what is the reason? Why not let matters run their course as usual and
allow the victims to sue the airlines?. Sure - some might have gone
bankrupt and big deal. Companies go bankrupt every day. VCF was hush money.
That's a 2 + 2 is 4.
Fievel, you're not fooling anyone. You were exposed long ago to be a
paid govt shill. Most pedophiles are. Have a perfect day.
>BDK <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote in
>news:MPG.22eb48d95...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>
>>> On Jul 18, 4:00 pm, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>>> > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you know what VCF is? Victim's Compensation Fund. It was set up
>>> after 911 to pay all the victims and make sure they didn't go to
>>> court where the truth might come out. Hush money taken from the
>>> taxpayers.
>>>
>>
>> BWHAHAHAHA! You poor bastard, it looks like you have a terminal case
>> of kooktardism.
>>
>
>
>Again the board
Board?
>laughingstock resorts to childish personal attacks because
>he has no arguments. HAHAHA
Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible
positions.
Thomas Jefferson
--
Shill #2
Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
theobviousgcashman
Bzzzzzzttttt!BTW - have you explained the
Bzzzztttt!! Wrong, lots of people heard loud noises they compared with
*explosions* and this does not create mythical *explosives.*
The fact is that there were no controlled demolitions explosives at
all, anywhere. None went off, therefore there were none contributing
to the blast.
>
BTW - have you explained the collapse of Building 7 yet?.
Well, uh, yeah. We’ve been telling you about it for a couple of years
now. Don’t you read the replies? There’s no mystery to WTC7. everyone
on the scene knew it was going to collapse from the immense structural
damage it suffered in the WTC1 collapse and the raging fires that
eventually engulfed it. The word went out five hours earlier that it
would fall because a wall was seen to be bulging. This building was
doomed. Why would anyone blow up a building that already had been
declared unstable, on fire, and structurally damaged? You are a
kooker.
> The govt can't and they've been trying for 7 years.
The govt can and has, and NIST is simply preparing the full report on
the mechanics of the collapse. What caused it is not in question. Your
sanity, however, is.
Well, I wouldn't say minor. I would say that *nothing* the CTs have
come up with holds any water.
> What about Building 7. Can you explain it's collapse,
Been done already, squirt.
> The govt can't
Can and has.
BWHAHAHHAHAHHAA! A true believer in the sacred kookpages!
Sure it can. Anyone with even a moronic IQ can. Why the hell can't you?
It looks like it's way past time for the nice doctors to rethink your
current drug regimen. That's not an attack, it's a simple observation of
your condition.
BWHAHAHAHAHAA! You poor kooktard.
Is there a board of kooktards someplace? I would love to see the
meetings posted on youtube!
>
>
> >laughingstock resorts to childish personal attacks because
> >he has no arguments. HAHAHA
>
>
> Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible
> positions.
> Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> --
> Shill #2
>
> Ears on the loon go round and round, round and round, round and round...
> theobviousgcashman
>
--
Good job! Now, have you learned to tell time yet?
Did you take time off from writing press releases about the Mossad
deliberately releasing rats and pigs into East Jerusalem to dirve out
the Palestinians, to remind us that whenever anything bad happens,
anywhere, it must be the fault of the Evil Jews (TM)? :O(
BWHAHAHAHAA! He must have said something good to piss you off this way.
You really are a full blown kook, who believes that there are paid
government shills "fighting" the truth about 911. The pedophile thing is
apparently just some sort of frustration coming out. Are you frustrated
because he doesn't swallow the sacred kookpages? If so, you must be
frustrated nearly all the time, unless you're alone.
>In article <6iq684pf5bntn486m...@4ax.com>,
>gov....@gmail.com says...
>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:32:46 -0500, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are
>> MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >BDK <Shil...@silentexplosions.com> wrote in
>> >news:MPG.22eb48d95...@news.buckeye-express.com:
>> >
>> >>> On Jul 18, 4:00 pm, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>> >>> > "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you know what VCF is? Victim's Compensation Fund. It was set up
>> >>> after 911 to pay all the victims and make sure they didn't go to
>> >>> court where the truth might come out. Hush money taken from the
>> >>> taxpayers.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> BWHAHAHAHA! You poor bastard, it looks like you have a terminal case
>> >> of kooktardism.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >Again the board
>>
>> Board?
>
>Is there a board of kooktards someplace? I would love to see the
>meetings posted on youtube!
Maybe SaDDaM (hmm... Saddam?) thinks we are all bored (with the kOOker
shit) and has Seon's spelling problems?
A full blown raving kooktard with Seon's spelling talents, and Sack's
sneering style would be the greatest and funniest kook ever.
> Vandar <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:13ngk.17500$Qe5....@fe089.usenetserver.com:
>
>
>>Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 18, 4:00 pm, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
>>>
>
>
>>>
>>>Do you know what VCF is? Victim's Compensation Fund. It was set up
>>>after 911 to pay all the victims and make sure they didn't go to
>>>court where the truth might come out. Hush money taken from the
>>>taxpayers.
>>
>>Voluntary participation. The only thing the people who chose to accept
>>money from that fund agreed to was not sue the airlines. There's a
>>good reason the government didn't want the airline companies sued to
>>kingdom come. Fear that some "truth" would come out ain't it.
>>
>>
>
>
> Then what is the reason? Why not let matters run their course as usual and
> allow the victims to sue the airlines?. Sure - some might have gone
> bankrupt and big deal.
You obviously have no idea how big of economic impact it would have on
the country if a couple of major airlines went out of business.
> Companies go bankrupt every day. VCF was hush money.
> That's a 2 + 2 is 4.
It isn't hush money. It's a voluntary settlement.
>A full blown raving kooktard with Seon's spelling talents, and Sack's
>sneering style would be the greatest and funniest kook ever.
Maybe we can introduce them... "Seon, this is Sacko. Sacko this is Seon."
--
Shill #2
Pay Section
Disinformation Directorate
Ministry of Information
European Division
No dimwit, they heard explosions
>you idiot. BTW - have you explained the
> collapse of Building 7 yet?. The govt can't and they've been trying for 7
> years.
<YAWN> poor clueless kooktard.
It is quite simple kooktard, structural damage, uncontrolled fire, and a
unique structural design......how many times does this have to be
explained to you?
You can forget about counting. This moron could be put on an IV drip
of common sense and truth with a constant flow and would *still* never
learn to think on its own!
"B-b-b-but Building 7!!!" Holy cow.
Them breeding would make an interesting show for one of the HD channels.
People say they heard explosions. None of those explosions were at the
time of the collapse.
Building 7 burned for hours, tilting and bulging according to sworn
testimony by firefighters who were there.
"explosion" is just a good word for loud noise. Lots of people heard
loud noises on 9/11 at WTC.
There was no man-made demolition heard at WTC. It woudl have been
caught on any of teh many video recorders in use frommoments after the
first impact.
BTW - have you explained the
>collapse of Building 7 yet?. The govt can't and they've been trying for 7
>years.
BEEP BEEP BEEP k00k changes topics BEEP BEEP BEEP
Fire, lots of fire and no water for firefighting. So say more than
100 eyewitness firefighters. Names and full text transcripts on
request.
--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
They outright ignore this..
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
They'd rather believe things like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDx1GLqvBO8
http://www.loosechangethefinalcut.com/
Which points out the minor stuff, that people didn't pay much
attention to.
The second hit, if you get an unedited version, does look like an
American Airlines Flight.
These people are still going to argue with us anyway.
And they're probably going to go and use Loose Change later
as a way to try and prove their CT's.
Fievel.
Been done already, squirt.
> The govt can't
Can and has.
I agree with you.
Hey, you think it'll help for us to keep discussing things we pretty much
agree on, you think the CT'ers will listen for a change?
Answering my own question,,..
Probably not..
Fievel.
What the hell is "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
<xeto...@yahoo.com>"
Talking about? That shit almost took out Boeing. The had a huge struggle
trying to recuperate
from 9/11.
What was that other thing, hm.. That's right, I remember.
> Truth about what?
> That each WTC1 and WTC2 could handle 1,300 tons each, and were hit
> with in-between 1,500 and 2,000 tons, and just couldn't handle the
> weight?
Could've replied to the fact I corrected myself, to pint out I meant each
floor could
withstand 1,300 Tons
What happens is you put 3,00 Lbs. on a platform built for 2,000 Lbs?
The platform collapses...
Dah, 2+2=4 Dah,,... It's really not much different.
It's like trying to do another problem, and come up with the same answer.
2+4=4 It don't work, the answer is still 6, no matter what.
1,300 Tons + 1,300 Tons, max weight withstand-able = nothing.
The proper math here would be to subtracted the math, and set the scale to 0
Anything over the weight after this, is too much.
Now lets think about how much office equipment was already on those floors,
it might not have been all that much, considering the weight each floor
could
withstand. But when you add more weight to an approximant few hundred
ton worth, it takes that much less to get to max weight withstood.
btw, two and two can equal six.. As long as your straight that is.
Fievel.
>
> > Fievel, you're not fooling anyone. You were exposed long ago to be a
> > paid govt shill. Most pedophiles are. Have a perfect day.
>
> BWHAHAHAHAA! He must have said something good to piss you off this way.
>
> You really are a full blown kook, who believes that there are paid
> government shills "fighting" the truth about 911. The pedophile thing is
> apparently just some sort of frustration coming out. Are you frustrated
> because he doesn't swallow the sacred kookpages? If so, you must be
> frustrated nearly all the time, unless you're alone.
>
> --
> BDK
>
>
BDK - i really enjoy driving you and your alias fievel, ballistic. You
PGS get mad so easy and it's so funny. HAHAHA
You are an economic ignoramus. The airline companies are tiny
businesses. Most of them have market capitalizations around
$2billion. Companies like GE and microsoft are 100+ times bigger.
You are so stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stupid? Picking on Microsoft, running Windows Vista?
Your the one who's stupid.
Bill Gates, the only person in the world that even has the
slightest chance of hitting the Trillions.
If Bill Gates is so bad, it's time for you to start using Linux.
You need to make a bootdisc from windows, then you have to tell bios
to use OS2.. Then you have to boot with the disc you made.
Next you have to copy your custom boot files over to a hd..
You actually have to do more then one reboot, before install
can even begin.It takes a bit of time, to manually copy only the
needed files to the HD
You also must be sure the format of the drive, is compatible
with Linux.
All you have to do with windows is put in the disc, and
soon after boot up, your already started.
Another thing..
Microsoft is world wide, and is too big a company
to care about the little bit of money that (Might?) have
been made on 9/11. Further more, our Government spends the
suggested amount of one trillion dollars in less then a quarter year.
Purposed 2009 drug budget is 4 Trilloin dollars.
Our Government has already spent more then 4 times the suggested
amount made on 9/11 for just the war over there.
You see it on the evening news, the news papers, the internet.
You see this proof everywhere, you couldn't miss it if you wanted to.
We've also lost more then 4 times the amount of people then we did on 9/11.
Where is this Government hiding anything?
Fievel..
> On Jul 20, 12:40 pm, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Then what is the reason? Why not let matters run their course as usual and
>>>allow the victims to sue the airlines?. Sure - some might have gone
>>>bankrupt and big deal.
>>
>>You obviously have no idea how big of economic impact it would have on
>>the country if a couple of major airlines went out of business.
>>
>
>
> You are an economic ignoramus. The airline companies are tiny
> businesses. Most of them have market capitalizations around
> $2billion.
AA alone contributes approximately $150 billion per year to the US economy.
> Companies like GE and microsoft are 100+ times bigger.
> You are so stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are Microsoft and GE responsible for shuttling millions of people a day
around the country and world?
Like I said...
My point was, you're picking on companies that had nothing to do with
9/11.
Also ignoring the larger point as usual. Our Government's spending, which
makes no sense, fighting a loosing battle against mostly (Pot)
I'm sure the chart hasn't changed since last time I looked at it, at
ondcp.gov,
easilly twice the persentage of people who use illegal drugs, use Marijuana
only, with nothing else. With the smallest persentage using the harder
stuff.
The point here is, our government does lie to us about some things.
They post these persentages on their web~pages, then still make the claims
that Marijuana leads to harder drugs. Even though, they list a very small
persentage of people using the harder drugs.
?? Huh ??
BTW, prove that GE and Microsoft had a hand in it....
Fievel...
Going ballistic? This is only too entertaining, have more?
Fievel.
> You need to make a bootdisc from windows, then you have to tell bios
> to use OS2.. Then you have to boot with the disc you made.
> Next you have to copy your custom boot files over to a hd..
> You actually have to do more then one reboot, before install
> can even begin.It takes a bit of time, to manually copy only the
> needed files to the HD
Well some versions of Linux are approaching idiot proof status.
Boot off the DVD.
The system loads and has a big bright button that says "Install"
Thereafter it is very much like Windows..
Unless you really want to get it running proplerly
Lol,,..
Actually I would love to go through the trouble someday of
installing a good copy of Linux.
What you said up there, that's funny.
"a big bright button that says "Install"
Why like Linux? The fact that over 90% of all virus's
are incompatible with Linux.
:-)
Fievel.
A lot of the kooks suffer from the delusion that the "shills" posting
here are (at least some of them) sockpuppets of mine. It's completely
insane, but that never stopped a kook, did it?
> Are you really that dumb, that you think BDK and I are one in the same?
DO you really need to ask?
>
> Going ballistic? This is only too entertaining, have more?
They go ballistic all the time, and toss out gay sex insults, calling
people jews, and, of course, sockpuppets. It's all great comedy.
>
> Fievel.
>
>
>
--
BDK
BDK Klan leader?
Once you start talking about 9/11, esppecially Building 7, it's clear
that you're a kook.
First a smile. :-) Now a wink. ;-)
Smart people know, the thing was on fire for nearly four hours
or more, before anyone even noticed.
No building fell do to fire?
How bout uncontrolled fires?
The CT'ers seem to skip this point.
It was when, 1 or 2 O-Clock when anyone took notice that
WTC7 was on fire? But they didn't have good water supply..
They knew at about three or four in the afternoon that WTC7
wasn't even worth trying to save.
There were 0 people in WTC7
These people are trying so hard to prove their CT's, except for one reason
or another, I don't remember anyone trying to claim the insurance money
on building 7.
If anyone did, please point that out for me.
I read about Larry Silverstein, he collected for buildings one & two.
But I don't remember ever reading about him collecting one penny
from building 7.
Or even asking for any insurance money from building 7.
Furthermore, every penny from WTC1 and WTC2 is being used to
build the new freedom tower. Not keeping one red cent for himself.
I'm sorry but, that don't sound very selfish to me.
So, what are these CT'ers trying to prove?
Fievel... God I hate this computer, 750 MHz overclocked to 825.....
Use to a dual Xeon 2.6 GHz, my board up and died on me.........
Were this true, you could point to several video recordings that all
play the audio of explosions at the same instant.
But you can't.
you idiot. BTW - have you explained the
>collapse of Building 7 yet?. The govt can't and they've been trying for 7
>years.
Not "trying". Doing.
Oh it was clear long before that.
> "The Media" was reporting, all afternoon, that WTC7 was on fire and
> about to collapse.
The media also reported many people, including some of their own,
testifying to hearing and feeling explosions in several of the
buildings.