Major Scientology Rant
Brother Cadfael
Bill Clinton is the biggst fucking dork.
After meeting with John Travolta, who was sweet-talked by the president
into softening his portrayal in 'Primary Colors', Clinton spoke with
Travolta about assisting the Scientologists in Germany to help them gain
'Religious' status in that country. At this time, they are considered a
money-marketing cult.
After the interview, he was reported to have spoken with Madeline
Albreit about dealing with the Germans and their persecution of
Scientology, which is involved in at least one wrongful death suit.
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Haydn Black
On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:11:01 -0800, Brother...@earthcorp.com (Brother
Cadfael) was heard to utter the following diatribe:
>
>Bill Clinton is the biggst fucking dork.
Careful. If you criticise him you might face a small military build up in your
neighborhood fishpond.
>After meeting with John Travolta, who was sweet-talked by the president
>into softening his portrayal in 'Primary Colors', Clinton spoke with
>Travolta about assisting the Scientologists in Germany to help them gain
>'Religious' status in that country. At this time, they are considered a
>money-marketing cult.
Jesus.
On my first day in Sydney I was accosted by Scientologists (and given a piece
literature called 'Freedom'; saw a GIANT billboard atop a McDonalds building
with the familiar Volcano (comp;ete with non-working "fire"); and found a
french translation of "Le Dianetiques" by the payphone in our hostel with the
words "This is Shit" across the cover.
Methinks L-Ron's kiddies need to be put in their place again.
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AngelDye
>Bill Clinton is the biggst fucking dork.
and this is news?!
> Clinton spoke with Travolta about assisting the Scientologists in Germany to
help them gain 'Religious' status in that country. At this time, they are
considered a money-marketing cult.
Viva Germany! hey, i'm all for people's religions... what ever floats their
boats.. but i draw the line at money grubbing scientology... i goto a coffee
house on Franklin in Hollywood across from the "celeb Mansion" alot... and i do
a lot of staring at this huge monster of a very beautiful and gothy looking
domain... but for what?!?! huh?! it's filled to the brim with Gucci walking
nutjobs. there's no if and or buts about it- if you have to PAY MOOLA to get
to the higher ups.. then it's a cult.. Germany, even with it's persecutionist
background should keep their spine...
AngeL
wishing for moneygrubbing nutfree world.. BUT yeah, thats a pipe dream
Jack F
Brother Cadfael <Brother...@earthcorp.com> wrote in article
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> at this time they are considered to be a money making cult..
You got right! And I hate that little wind up toy of a leader they put on
interview shows when they feel someone is annoying them. He reminds me of
this dork boss I had once(damn! I hate when my hands go into 'strangling
mode' while I watch TV!)
JackF<8P
<"He who loves death...loves life">
Francois Mitterand(who is now a dead dude)
Brother Cadfael
Haydn Black <ha...@dieslowly.goth.org.au> wrote:
|On my first day in Sydney I was accosted by Scientologists (and given a piece
|literature called 'Freedom'; saw a GIANT billboard atop a McDonalds building
|with the familiar Volcano (comp;ete with non-working "fire"); and found a
|french translation of "Le Dianetiques" by the payphone in our hostel with the
|words "This is Shit" across the cover.
We have a Scientology store right in the middle of downtown with a
giant, vertical, lighted sign. About two or three years ago, a man
(David knows his name, but I don't recall) walked into the store and
started shooting people because they had screwed with his head.
John Travolta is a nutcase. I love his acting and I think he seems to
be a very nice person, but he claims to heal extras on the set with the
touch of his hand (thanks to Scientology of course).
Tom Cruise isn't any better. It seems that those who fall for
Scientology are the rich and stupid (stupid meaning: Hollywood
Actor/Actress types).
I never did finish reading Dianetics. I picked up a copy at a used
bookstore when I was twelve and lost the book before I could finish the
last sixty pages. It was bizarre and looney back then-- to a twelve-
year-old. I can't imagine how grown-adults could fall for something so
hoaky. I mean, I thought it was a Science Fiction book for the first
two-hundred pages.
Leonora the Lonely KittenLady
In The Year Of Our Lord Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:56:40 -0800,
Brother...@earthcorp.com (Brother Cadfael) Foolishly Dared To
Write:
> I mean, I thought it was a Science Fiction book for the first
>two-hundred pages.
that's because that's what it is once you look past the religion farce
:P
-Leonora (Mistress of All Evil & Goddess MAterial :), notice how they
put Dianetics in the 'sci-fi' section at B&N, not religion
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Haydn Black
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 02:40:33 GMT, tonyg...@worldnet.att.net (Leonora the
Lonely KittenLady) was heard to utter the following diatribe:
>In The Year Of Our Lord Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:56:40 -0800,
>Brother...@earthcorp.com (Brother Cadfael) Foolishly Dared To
>Write:
>> I mean, I thought it was a Science Fiction book for the first
>>two-hundred pages.
>
>that's because that's what it is once you look past the religion farce
Damn good way to assure that someone's going to read Z-Grade dross like the
'Mission Earth' series.
And your 'innovative' records.
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>It seems that those who fall for
>Scientology are the rich and stupid (stupid meaning: Hollywood
>Actor/Actress types).
>
brain-dead celebs goes on and on. Actually, Scientology makes a point of
recruiting celebs. Not only do they have more disposable income than they can
even consider using, they also make quite effective mouthpieces for recruiting
more sheep.
"Unwisely, Santa offered a teddy bear to James, unaware that he had been
mauled by a grizzly earlier that year." - Tim Burton
Grimm
On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:56:40 -0800, Brother...@earthcorp.com
(Brother Cadfael) did decree:
>I never did finish reading Dianetics. I picked up a copy at a used
>bookstore when I was twelve and lost the book before I could finish the
>last sixty pages. It was bizarre and looney back then-- to a twelve-
>year-old. I can't imagine how grown-adults could fall for something so
>hoaky. I mean, I thought it was a Science Fiction book for the first
>two-hundred pages.
Ok, maybe someone could tell me what Scientology is all about. I'm
vaguely curious, because I keep hearing about it, but I know
absolutely nothing. Another reason I want to know is because I have
this sneaking suspicion that Chris Carter was satirizing it on one of
my favourite episodes of Millenium (the one where Jose Chung dies).
The guy at their recruitment agency says something about having a
whole bunch of celebrites who had joined, which implied 'hey, if
celebrities are doing it, how can it possibly be wrong!'.
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Haydn Black
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 07:20:47 GMT, gr...@ican.net (Grimm) was heard to utter the
following diatribe:
>vaguely curious, because I keep hearing about it, but I know
>absolutely nothing.
http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/scn/
ren
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to take us to court several times but they can't locate any
of us to send the papers.
Why do I hate the church? Because they are part of the great
CON-game.
I vow to destroy any profit-oriented-religion.
They fear our glowing eyes in the night.
They fear our mediaHype.
We are the one's in black.
No Scientology computer activity is safe from attack.
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Brother Cadfael
David Gerard <f...@thingy.apana.org.au> wrote:
|No, it's more complicated than that. What you have above is the
|Travolta/Co$ version, which is at some variance from reality. In a
|nutshell:
What I heard was that Travolta went to speak with the president about
his role playing Bill Clinton in 'Primary Colors: The Movie'. Before
hand, everyone told him he would be seduced by Clinton. When he came
out of the meeting, he told his friends that he was, indeed, seduced by
his style and way of talking.
But Clinton will tell you anything to make a friend out of you. I don't
think he even realizes he does it. But Travolta and Clinton both
deserve to be screwed over.
Edvamp
>I have
>this sneaking suspicion that Chris Carter was satirizing it on one of
>my favourite episodes of Millenium
Sneaking suspicion? That was a direct comparison. I loved that episode
too.
Why are you afraid? We've stared into the face of the Ultimate Evil.
Yes, but the Ultimate Evil can't sue you!
Ever and Always
Edvamp
David Gerard
On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 15:29:50 GMT, ha...@dieslowly.goth.org.au (Haydn Black)
wrote:
:Jesus.
Xenu!
:On my first day in Sydney I was accosted by Scientologists (and given a piece
:literature called 'Freedom'; saw a GIANT billboard atop a McDonalds building
:with the familiar Volcano (comp;ete with non-working "fire"); and found a
:french translation of "Le Dianetiques" by the payphone in our hostel with the
:words "This is Shit" across the cover.
:Methinks L-Ron's kiddies need to be put in their place again.
Hold an anti-Co$ demo in Perth in March, as part of the worldwide demo's.
They're fun and entertaining. http://www.primenet.com/~cultxpt/demo.htm
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David Gerard
:We have a Scientology store right in the middle of downtown with a
:giant, vertical, lighted sign. About two or three years ago, a man
:(David knows his name, but I don't recall) walked into the store and
:started shooting people because they had screwed with his head.
Jairus Godeka. He was a loony before and they made him worse.
:John Travolta is a nutcase. I love his acting and I think he seems to
:be a very nice person, but he claims to heal extras on the set with the
:touch of his hand (thanks to Scientology of course).
:Tom Cruise isn't any better. It seems that those who fall for
:Scientology are the rich and stupid (stupid meaning: Hollywood
:Actor/Actress types).
It's not an IQ thing, it's an emotional thing. Cults are like a compuer
virus of the mind.
Actors are insecure by the nature of their jobs (you're either working or
you're a zero). Scientology specifically preys on celebrities, to get them
working as shills.
Also, Scientology makes you stupid. It replaces actual thinking with a
mental lookup table (installing a thought-stopping technique -
brainwashing). This gives quick but limited responses. The idea is to make
you into a slave-clone of L. Ron Hubbard.
Watch out for the hubris of intelligence - it'll convince you 'it can't
happen to me' and you risk leaving yourself wide open. Analogy: having
twice as fast a processor won't change your system's susceptibility to
viruses.
:I never did finish reading Dianetics. I picked up a copy at a used
:bookstore when I was twelve and lost the book before I could finish the
:last sixty pages. It was bizarre and looney back then-- to a twelve-
:year-old. I can't imagine how grown-adults could fall for something so
:hoaky. I mean, I thought it was a Science Fiction book for the first
:two-hundred pages.
Because it can be initially plausible. In fact, someone smart will be more
susceptible, because they can try to make sense of the thing where there is
none.
And BTW, quite a lot of Scientologists *have not* read Dianetics. They're
almost afraid to approach a work of its, uh, majesty.
David Gerard
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 05:16:03 GMT, ha...@dieslowly.goth.org.au (Haydn Black)
wrote:
:Damn good way to assure that someone's going to read Z-Grade dross like the
:'Mission Earth' series.
:And your 'innovative' records.
'Road To Freedom: Songs Of L. Ron Hubbard' is the greatest religious record
ever made. You know what music-free Christian 'music' is like? This is even
more so. http://www.ronthemusicmaker.org/
David Gerard
On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 04:11:01 -0800, Brother...@earthcorp.com (Brother
Cadfael) wrote:
:Bill Clinton is the biggst fucking dork.
:After meeting with John Travolta, who was sweet-talked by the president
:into softening his portrayal in 'Primary Colors', Clinton spoke with
:Travolta about assisting the Scientologists in Germany to help them gain
:'Religious' status in that country. At this time, they are considered a
:money-marketing cult.
:After the interview, he was reported to have spoken with Madeline
:Albreit about dealing with the Germans and their persecution of
:Scientology, which is involved in at least one wrongful death suit.
No, it's more complicated than that. What you have above is the
Travolta/Co$ version, which is at some variance from reality. In a
nutshell:
1. Travolta tried to get Clinton to heavy Germany (Travolta media-whores
for the Co$ at the drop of a hat);
2. Clinton baffled him with politician-speak ("Of course, we will act
against religious discrimination, you fine constituent, you" - the 1997
State Dept report says that said discrimination hasn't been happening [1]);
3. Clinton and the State Dept put Travolta's request in the circular file,
where it belongs;
4. Travolta, being a moron, is convinced that his buddy Bill will kick some
German butt for him and tells 'George' this;
5. The State Dept point out that what they actually said was 2.
And the following will be next:
6. Clinton will never forgive the Co$ for this one.
I know you don't like Bill, but really - he's not *that* stupid. Co$: Foot,
meet bullet.
There are loads of critic-of-Co$ web pages that deal with this; I don't
remember any off the top of my head, but http://www.xenu.net/ is always a
good start.
[1] Said 'discrimination' is declaring the Co$ to be a business, not a
church, and keeping an extremely close eye on them as a neo-fascist
organisation. Which they are. The Co$ considers anything that limits its
money to be religious oppression.
David Gerard
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 07:20:47 GMT, gr...@ican.net (Grimm) wrote:
:Ok, maybe someone could tell me what Scientology is all about. I'm
:vaguely curious, because I keep hearing about it, but I know
:absolutely nothing.
Dianetics: pop psychology. Your problems are because you have 'engrams' -
bad memories that hold you back. If you get rid of these by bringing them
into your conscious, your mind will be free to work better. (The 'engram'
hypothesis has had a few scientific tests and so far seems to be balderdash
- but it's *plausible*, which draws people in.)
Scientology: like Dianetics, but you have many *trillions* of years of Past
Lives and have to deal with the shit from *those* lives too. (Being about
'past lives' and 'purification of your soul' makes it Religion. And it *is*
a religion. Just one organised as an abusive cult.) There is also stuff
designed to train you out of thinking critically (brainwashing).
Advanced levels (the 'secret' stuff, which is all over the net): All your
problems are caused by the souls of dead space aliens stuck all over your
body. These are the souls of the billions of people brought to earth by the
Galactic Emperor Xenu, strapped to volcanoes and H-bombed. You then have to
deal with all *their* engrams too.
I am not shitting you. See http://www.xs4al.nl/~kspaink/fishman/ot3.html .
:Another reason I want to know is because I have
:this sneaking suspicion that Chris Carter was satirizing it on one of
:my favourite episodes of Millenium (the one where Jose Chung dies).
Absolutely correct. The Scientologists actually objected to the show, so
they changed it from 'Selftology' to 'Selfosophy'. And every episode guide
ever ever ever will say 'This is the one the Scientologists objected to
because it's about them.'
I haven't seen it, but apparently it's LOADED with in-jokes for critics of
Scientology, and particularly Internet ones :-)
:The guy at their recruitment agency says something about having a
:whole bunch of celebrites who had joined, which implied 'hey, if
:celebrities are doing it, how can it possibly be wrong!'.
The celebrity theory may seem stupid, but it's not all John Travolta.
William Burroughs for instance was in for a while, and it was actually his
interest that first interested me in the subject (tho' as a critic :-) -
see my page at http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/scn/etc/ with some
Burroughs-and-Scientology stuff.
Ron Hubbard wasn't stupid. He was however a natural-born conman who could
not distinguish lies from truth and had no ethical sense.
ADupin
>Ron Hubbard wasn't stupid. He was however a natural-born conman who could
>not distinguish lies from truth and had no ethical sense.
At one point he said that the best way to get rich in America was to start your
own religion...and he went on to prove himself right.
Incidentally, does it strike anyone else as odd that an organization purporting
to be a religion has sued repeatedly over infraction of "trade secrets"? Yes,
many religions are profit-making institutions, but they're ususally not _that_
bald-faced about it...
Marco Anglesio
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:29:13 GMT, David Gerard <f...@thingy.apana.org.au> wrote:
>Watch out for the hubris of intelligence - it'll convince you 'it can't
>happen to me' and you risk leaving yourself wide open. Analogy: having
>twice as fast a processor won't change your system's susceptibility to
>viruses.
Isn't that Ayn Rand's MO?
marco
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Individuation
On 23 Feb 1998, ADupin wrote:
> >Ron Hubbard wasn't stupid. He was however a natural-born conman who could
> >not distinguish lies from truth and had no ethical sense.
>
> At one point he said that the best way to get rich in America was to start your
> own religion...and he went on to prove himself right.
Then how come Stang of the subgenious isn't a rich man?
>
The CO$ is just a scary brainwashing group that takes your money and tells
you that you were a clam in a former life.
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klaatu
David Gerard wrote:
>
<very nice precis and summary of $cientology snipped>
>
> Ron Hubbard wasn't stupid. He was however a natural-born conman who could
> not distinguish lies from truth and had no ethical sense.
>
Ah, you'll find this page very very interrresting then. Please see
http://www.brotherblue.org/brethren/hubbard.htm
I like this little quote here...
"Scientology is evil; its techniques evil; its
practice a serious threat to the community;
medically, morally and socially."
-Report of the Board of Inquiry into Scientology
for the State of Victoria, Australia, 1965.
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There are a few more off of
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or Search Arcana, http://earthops.org/Harvest/brokers/Arcana and of course
don't forget to search the Gothic Search Engine at
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>
> [1] Said 'discrimination' is declaring the Co$ to be a business, not a
> church, and keeping an extremely close eye on them as a neo-fascist
> organisation. Which they are. The Co$ considers anything that limits its
> money to be religious oppression.
Man, and you should see what they do to anyone declared to be "Free Game" -
that Paulette Cooper business or the A. Lerma affair were pretty amazing.
Although as they say it's an ill wind that blows no good; their harassment of
A. Lerma
klaatu
Marco Anglesio wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:29:13 GMT, David Gerard <f...@thingy.apana.org.au> wrote:
> >Watch out for the hubris of intelligence - it'll convince you 'it can't
> >happen to me' and you risk leaving yourself wide open. Analogy: having
> >twice as fast a processor won't change your system's susceptibility to
> >viruses.
>
> Isn't that Ayn Rand's MO?
Um, naw, that's the other guy. Can't remember his name for th' life o' me, you
know, the guy who's absolutely convinced that the Queen of England is the
worlds biggest dope dealer... um um um LaRouche. Yeah, that guy. Very smart
guy. And one of the few who's even madder than am I.
>
> marco
>
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ren
Edvamp wrote:
>
> >I have
> >this sneaking suspicion that Chris Carter was satirizing it on one of
> >my favourite episodes of Millenium
>
> too.
>
> Why are you afraid? We've stared into the face of the Ultimate Evil.
>
> Yes, but the Ultimate Evil can't sue you!
>
> Ever and Always
> Edvamp
I wonder if any of you have fig'urd it out yet? :)
ren
>Ron Hubbard wasn't stupid. He was however a natural-born conman who >could not distinguish lies from truth and had no ethical sense.
Wrong. That was his excuse to escape the persecution of his
peers. He knew exactly what he was doing. Telling lies to
others. Holding the truth of his knowledge to his breast.
And his ethical sense was to prey on the emotionally weak.
That is why I hate Ron Hubbard. He didn't need to prove the
psychology. It was already tested and is used by elite
miltary units all over the world. Ron was out to make money.
> At one point he said that the best way to get rich in America was to
> start your own religion...and he went on to prove himself right.
The Scientologists know the law and they are all con artists
themselves. We don't fear them rather we uphold our freedom
of speech and speak our minds concerning this bullshit
religion.
Doc G*thzo
> I vow to destroy any profit-oriented-religion.
I vow to destroy the rest. If possible.
The loss-making religions are the ones that really suck. They're the ones
that then try to use the State to take your money without your consent.
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David Gerard
On 23 Feb 1998 06:04:16 GMT, m...@squawk.ml.org (Marco Anglesio) wrote:
:On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:29:13 GMT, David Gerard <f...@thingy.apana.org.au> wrote:
:>Watch out for the hubris of intelligence - it'll convince you 'it can't
:>happen to me' and you risk leaving yourself wide open. Analogy: having
:>twice as fast a processor won't change your system's susceptibility to
:>viruses.
:Isn't that Ayn Rand's MO?
Yep. Ayn Rand, Scientology, any group you care to name. It's a common flaw,
particularly in a culture that pushes the myth of the mind/body divide. "Of
course I'm not an animal, I'm *far* beyond such things, of course I don't
look at tits I go for minds exclusively", etc., etc. If you ignore your
genetic history it will come back and bite you.
David Gerard
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:24:36 -0800, Brother...@earthcorp.com (Brother
Cadfael) wrote:
:What I heard was that Travolta went to speak with the president about
:his role playing Bill Clinton in 'Primary Colors: The Movie'. Before
:hand, everyone told him he would be seduced by Clinton. When he came
:out of the meeting, he told his friends that he was, indeed, seduced by
:his style and way of talking.
:But Clinton will tell you anything to make a friend out of you. I don't
:think he even realizes he does it.
Of course. To be a successful politician, you have to have magic charm. And
let's face it, Travolta is not the brightest bulb out there :-)
It's prolly the worst time for $cientology for Travolta to have spoken of
his good buddy Bill, because the IRS/Co$ tax deal (which they got by
bullying the IRS into submission with bogus lawsuits and harassment over
1980-93) has just come to light, and a fair few pissed-off citizens are
ready to make a BIG FUSS over it.
I'm burning out my month's Sc**nt*l*gy ration on this thread. I promise to
shut up about it for a while when the thread finishes.
Kira Moore
In article <19980222055...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
ADupin <adu...@aol.com> wrote:
>Tom Hanks, Kirstie Alley, Priscilla and Lisa Marie Presley...the list of
>brain-dead celebs goes on and on. Actually, Scientology makes a point of
>recruiting celebs.
Indeed. In fact my father (whom I have not seen in years, nor heard from
in many months) works at the CoS Celebrity Centre in Hollywood. The
building where the courses are held is a fabulously ritzy "castle" (and
the last I heard, the workers were still living in the Wilcox, a ratty
and run-down former hotel - three to a room). Hey, that's dedication. I
like to think of my dad as a sort of a monk. *wry smile*
~Kira (who really ought to write to her dad, but can't quite summon up
the enthusiasm)
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Grimm
>But Clinton will tell you anything to make a friend out of you.
Well of course he will! It's in his job description.
Grimm
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:40:53 GMT, f...@thingy.apana.org.au (David
Gerard) did decree:
>Advanced levels (the 'secret' stuff, which is all over the net): All your
>problems are caused by the souls of dead space aliens stuck all over your
>body. These are the souls of the billions of people brought to earth by the
>Galactic Emperor Xenu, strapped to volcanoes and H-bombed. You then have to
>deal with all *their* engrams too.
ROFLMAO! And people actually pay for this....
>I am not shitting you. See http://www.xs4al.nl/~kspaink/fishman/ot3.html .
I'm there :)
>Absolutely correct. The Scientologists actually objected to the show, so
>they changed it from 'Selftology' to 'Selfosophy'. And every episode guide
>ever ever ever will say 'This is the one the Scientologists objected to
>because it's about them.'
>
>I haven't seen it, but apparently it's LOADED with in-jokes for critics of
>Scientology, and particularly Internet ones :-)
Ok, thanks a lot for the info, Dave! If I'm lucky, I'll still have
that episode on the tape, which I will watch after I check out that
page. Taht is, if I don't become overwhelmed with the awesome might
of Emperor Xenu :P
Kira Moore
In article <35143e9e...@thingy.apana.org.au>,
David Gerard <f...@thingy.apana.org.au> wrote:
>
>Yep. Ayn Rand, Scientology, any group you care to name. It's a common flaw,
>particularly in a culture that pushes the myth of the mind/body divide. "Of
>course I'm not an animal, I'm *far* beyond such things, of course I don't
>look at tits I go for minds exclusively", etc., etc. If you ignore your
>genetic history it will come back and bite you.
Wanna know something funny? Not only is my dad a Scientologist, my mother
is a serious Randian Objectivist. If I had to pick one, it'd be Rand, but
I'd rather cherish my own delusions, thanks just the same.
~Kira, yeah like in _We_the_Living_
Scott
>The CO$ is just a scary brainwashing group that takes your money and tells
>you that you were a clam in a former life.
>
I don't want to be a clam in my past life. If I pay more can I
be something a bit more regal and a bit less edible?
ciao,
Scott
--
The Process of Disassembly
gothic.net/~raindog/process/
"I am the quote nazi, no quote for you! Come back in one year!"
Individuation
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Scott wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:21:05 -0600, Individuation
> <orz...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> >The CO$ is just a scary brainwashing group that takes your money and tells
> >you that you were a clam in a former life.
> >
> I don't want to be a clam in my past life. If I pay more can I
> be something a bit more regal and a bit less edible?
no. you have to be a clam. that's why when people tap you on the head you
close your mouth....it's from birds shitting on the clams heads.
Eileen (who dated a subgenious who told her all this about CO$..though it
could be wrong)
>
> ciao,
> Scott
> --
> The Process of Disassembly
> gothic.net/~raindog/process/
>
> "I am the quote nazi, no quote for you! Come back in one year!"
>
>
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JeanCroix
Individuation <orz...@students.uiuc.edu> writes:
>> >The CO$ is just a scary brainwashing group that takes your money and tells
>> >you that you were a clam in a former life.
>> I don't want to be a clam in my past life. If I pay more can I
>> be something a bit more regal and a bit less edible?
>no. you have to be a clam. that's why when people tap you on the head you
>close your mouth....it's from birds shitting on the clams heads.
>Eileen (who dated a subgenious who told her all this about CO$..though it
>could be wrong)
I'm unfamiliar with the clam bit. Most of us SubGenii are at least 1/2 yeti,
and not in any 'past life.' Yeeee-haw!
-JeanCroix, "Uh-oh, X-Day is before CIV..."
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On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:47:04 -0600, Individuation
<orz...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
:On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Scott wrote:
:> On Mon, 23 Feb 1998 18:21:05 -0600, Individuation
:> <orz...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
:> >The CO$ is just a scary brainwashing group that takes your money and tells
:> >you that you were a clam in a former life.
:> I don't want to be a clam in my past life. If I pay more can I
:> be something a bit more regal and a bit less edible?
:no. you have to be a clam. that's why when people tap you on the head you
:close your mouth....it's from birds shitting on the clams heads.
:Eileen (who dated a subgenious who told her all this about CO$..though it
:could be wrong)
Close enough. It's from "What To Audit", aka "A History Of Man". If you
ever see a copy in a second-hand store (don't buy it new! don't give the
Co$ money!), get it - it's a CLASSIC of kook literature.
There is a Clam FAQ on the subject. See
http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/scn/press/9509xenu.html
David Gerard
On 24 Feb 1998 04:38:56 GMT, kbm...@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu (Kira Moore)
wrote:
:Indeed. In fact my father (whom I have not seen in years, nor heard from
:in many months) works at the CoS Celebrity Centre in Hollywood. The
:building where the courses are held is a fabulously ritzy "castle" (and
:the last I heard, the workers were still living in the Wilcox, a ratty
:and run-down former hotel - three to a room). Hey, that's dedication. I
:like to think of my dad as a sort of a monk. *wry smile*
*shudder* think 'slave' and you'll be closer to the mark.
:~Kira (who really ought to write to her dad, but can't quite summon up
:the enthusiasm)
Write saying you're always there for him. Think in terms of his incoming
mail being censored, which it quite likely is.
Individuation
On 24 Feb 1998, JeanCroix wrote:
> Individuation <orz...@students.uiuc.edu> writes:
>
> >> >The CO$ is just a scary brainwashing group that takes your money and tells
> >> >you that you were a clam in a former life.
>
> >> I don't want to be a clam in my past life. If I pay more can I
> >> be something a bit more regal and a bit less edible?
>
> >no. you have to be a clam. that's why when people tap you on the head you
> >close your mouth....it's from birds shitting on the clams heads.
> >Eileen (who dated a subgenious who told her all this about CO$..though it
> >could be wrong)
>
> I'm unfamiliar with the clam bit. Most of us SubGenii are at least 1/2 yeti,
> and not in any 'past life.' Yeeee-haw!
no...the clam bit is from the church of $cientology. Most subgenii are
just anti CO$...from what I understand..
Eileen (whose ex swore up and down...she had to be yeti)
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In article <MPG.f590993c...@news.ipns.com>,
Brother...@earthcorp.com wrote:
>
> Haydn Black <ha...@dieslowly.goth.org.au> wrote:
>
> |On my first day in Sydney I was accosted by Scientologists (and given a
piece
> |literature called 'Freedom'; saw a GIANT billboard atop a McDonalds
building
> |with the familiar Volcano (comp;ete with non-working "fire"); and found a
> |french translation of "Le Dianetiques" by the payphone in our hostel with
the
> |words "This is Shit" across the cover.
>
> We have a Scientology store right in the middle of downtown with a
> giant, vertical, lighted sign. About two or three years ago, a man
> (David knows his name, but I don't recall) walked into the store and
> started shooting people because they had screwed with his head.
>
> be a very nice person, but he claims to heal extras on the set with the
> touch of his hand (thanks to Scientology of course).
>
> Tom Cruise isn't any better. It seems that those who fall for
> Scientology are the rich and stupid (stupid meaning: Hollywood
> Actor/Actress types).
>
> bookstore when I was twelve and lost the book before I could finish the
> last sixty pages. It was bizarre and looney back then-- to a twelve-
> year-old. I can't imagine how grown-adults could fall for something so
> hoaky. I mean, I thought it was a Science Fiction book for the first
> two-hundred pages.
>
> Brother...@earthcorp.com | Boycott Jenny Jones
> http://home.fia.net/~cadfael/ | http://home.fia.net/~cadfael/jennyjones/
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<snip>
> John Travolta is a nutcase. I love his acting and I think he seems to
> be a very nice person, but he claims to heal extras on the set with the
> touch of his hand (thanks to Scientology of course).
>
> Tom Cruise isn't any better. It seems that those who fall for
> Scientology are the rich and stupid (stupid meaning: Hollywood
> Actor/Actress types).
<snip>
You are as observant as you are brilliant, O Brother Cadfael! Here was my own
take on the subject of Scientology celebrities which I post to
alt.religion.scientology last week:
----------
SUBJECT: Scientology's Celebrities: USEFUL IDIOTS
Okay. So the clams have John Travolta, Tom Cruise, et al in their hot li'l ol'
P-R hands --and some of these Hollywood glitterati airheads can actually fake
intelligence and erudition while talking about their favorite cult.
So-o-o-o-o-o WHAT?
I for one and NOT impressed, and nor should anyone else! So some well-known
"artists" --whose chief idea of intellectual discourse is 5 minutes
on "Politically Incorrect" or "The Tonight Show"-- have the time and money
(ESPECIALLY the money) to pursue an intellectually vacuous, ethically bankrupt
belief system like Hubbardism? BIG DEAL!
Don't most people know by now that nearly the entire community of West Coast
"actors" and "actresses" put together tend to be dumber than a box of rocks?
After all, these same grossly-overpaid twits, if they weren't getting
"audited" and doing "tech", would instead be sticking needles in their
arteries or snorting white stuff up their noses. Even when they're undrugged
or sober, there's not a hell of a lot going on to indicate anything close to
approximating sound judgement, critical thinking, and rational discernment.
So if CO$ wants to continue to insist that it's somehow "repectable" or
"mainstream" because JT (for example) is one of their own, my response is:
Well, CO$, how come famed physicist Stephen Hawkings isn't a Scientologist?
And what about famed paleontologist and EVOLUTION EXPERT Stephen Jay Gould?
Has he re-examined the fossil record and found --LO!-- transitional forms
confirming your clam-to-man theory? WHAT! No fossil record?!? WHAT! Gould is
not a Scientologist?!? And where, for that matter, are all the prominent
marine biologists who have become Scientologists because of man's bio-chemical
ancestoral link to clams?
And how come you will never be able to name any prominent historians,
archelogists, anthropologists, philosophers, or even theologians, in the ranks
of the Church of Scientology?
And how about all those famous JOURNALISTS out there, CO$? Can't name even ONE
who is a Scientologist? Not even <shudder> <biting lip> Geraldo?!?
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! . . . .Gotcha, morons!
80 years ago Vladimir Illych Lenin coined a term for the empty-headed and/or
willfully ignorant Westerners, especially "celebrities," he and his comrades
cultivated cozy relationships with; glitterati suckers who swallowed the whole
Soviet P-R scam hook, line, and sinker for decades. These "artists" and other
"prominent" people gleefully praised and supported his glorious revolution and
the regimes that followed . . .to the tune of over 50,000,000 deaths and the
brutal Gulag Archipelago. None of them exercised what little brains they had
to learn the truth; and those who did talked themselves out of the truth.
Lenin called these people "useful idiots."
How fitting, but hardly surprising, that CO$ should be taking a page (and
probably LOTS of pages) from Lenin's strategy book --if not Lenin's entire
totalitarian ideology.
John M. Esparolini
Ron Cecchini
ren <r...@netgoths.com> wrote:
> That is why I hate Ron Hubbard.
On behalf of all us nice & decent Rons (like me and Ron Jeremy),
please refer to Capt. Kook as "Lafayette".
Your cooperation is appreciated.
> Ron was out to make money.
...
> The Scientologists know the law and they are all con artists themselves.
Which brings up the question *again* of whether or not Hubbie really believed
this shit. I was just reading in Sagan's _Broca's Brain_ (in a chapter that
covers the same kind of stuff he tackles in _Demon-Haunted World_) about cults
and whatnot, and he (Sagan) mentions that it was rumored or known (I forget)
that Hubbaloo started CO$ on a bet that he could start his own religion and
sucker people into following him.
Does the mainstream Scientologist really believe this stuff...?
][
(who would love to go head-to-head w/ these whackos...)
Ron Cecchini
f...@thingy.apana.org.au (David Gerard) wrote:
> It's prolly the worst time for $cientology for Travolta to have spoken of
> his good buddy Bill, because the IRS/Co$ tax deal
Well, I wonder what Bubba Clinton is going to think of Travolta's portrayal
of him in a movie coming out in March called _Primary Colors_. The First
Family's name is Stanton, but it's no secret that the movie is a "fictionalized
account of the Clintons". Emma Thompson plays Hillary (you have no idea how
much this bothers me, as I've had the weird crush on Thompson for so long
- and,
of course, I despise Hillary). According to Thompson, "power has always gone
hand-in-hand w/ libido." (that set off the Pun Filters)
It's interesting how this Clinton-Travolta-Scientology link hasn't made
it to the media yet, as this shit is whackier than the alleged story that
Nancy Reagan used to go to an astrologer.
So who wants to start a "leak"?
][
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the federal budget to the pursuit and capture of the spirit of the Galactic
Emperor Xenu?")
Marco Anglesio
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 12:46:34 -0600, jespa...@oc-inc.com <jespa...@oc-inc.com> wrote:
>How fitting, but hardly surprising, that CO$ should be taking a page (and
>probably LOTS of pages) from Lenin's strategy book --if not Lenin's entire
>totalitarian ideology.
I'm sure Lenin was the first to use artists and other cultural figures
to buttress his regime.
(sarc)
Trying to take down Scientology by associating it with Marxist-Leninist
Communism is almost laughable. Almost only because it's just common as
ignorance, which is to say quite common indeed.
There are lots of reasons to dislike Scientology, but one of them is not
that L. Ron Hubbard was a Marxist.
Darcy Julia Moon
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On 24 Feb 1998 04:46:22 GMT, Kira Moore <kbm...@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:
>Wanna know something funny? Not only is my dad a Scientologist, my mother
>is a serious Randian Objectivist. If I had to pick one, it'd be Rand, but
>I'd rather cherish my own delusions, thanks just the same.
Eee. I sometimes laugh about putting a scientologist and a randroid in
the same jail cell. It would, I think, be somewhat like a particularly
violent episode of OZ.
David Gerard
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 15:57:35 -0500, Ron.Ce...@GSC.GTE.Com (Ron Cecchini)
wrote:
:ren <r...@netgoths.com> wrote:
:> Ron was out to make money.
:...
:> The Scientologists know the law and they are all con artists themselves.
:Which brings up the question *again* of whether or not Hubbie really believed
:this shit. I was just reading in Sagan's _Broca's Brain_ (in a chapter that
:covers the same kind of stuff he tackles in _Demon-Haunted World_) about cults
:and whatnot, and he (Sagan) mentions that it was rumored or known (I forget)
:that Hubbaloo started CO$ on a bet that he could start his own religion and
:sucker people into following him.
Pretty close to true. There's even a FAQ on the subject.
We think he started believing it himself in the late seventies, when he
started going senile.
:Does the mainstream Scientologist really believe this stuff...?
To various degrees. The short answer is 'yes'.
:(who would love to go head-to-head w/ these whackos...)
Be gentle. Just fuck with their minds.
David Gerard
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:54:42 -0600, Individuation
<orz...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
:no...the clam bit is from the church of $cientology. Most subgenii are
:just anti CO$...from what I understand..
Damn right. They're the COMPETITION dammit.
The entire Co$-vs-the-Net thing is a war between the Co$ and the SubGenii.
The Co$ tried to remove alt.religion.scientology ... the SubGenii proceeded
to take over usenet (http://www.sputum.com/cns/)
:Eileen (whose ex swore up and down...she had to be yeti)
He's right dammit. We just hafta get you to cough up $30 before X-Day.
Doc G*thzo
In article <6ctjau$2jt$1...@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu>,
kbm...@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu (Kira Moore) wrote:
> Wanna know something funny? Not only is my dad a Scientologist, my mother
> is a serious Randian Objectivist. If I had to pick one, it'd be Rand, but
> I'd rather cherish my own delusions, thanks just the same.
I trust these people are divorced by now?
David Gerard
On 24 Feb 1998 18:38:33 GMT, m...@squawk.ml.org (Marco Anglesio) wrote:
:On 24 Feb 1998 04:46:22 GMT, Kira Moore <kbm...@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:
:>Wanna know something funny? Not only is my dad a Scientologist, my mother
:>is a serious Randian Objectivist. If I had to pick one, it'd be Rand, but
:>I'd rather cherish my own delusions, thanks just the same.
:Eee. I sometimes laugh about putting a scientologist and a randroid in
:the same jail cell. It would, I think, be somewhat like a particularly
:violent episode of OZ.
I'm sure they could work something out. I've often thought of compiling a
list comparing LRH quotes with corresponding Rand quotes. Mostly for the
purpose of pissing off Randroids. Thankfully I still have som vague
semblance of a life ...
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ren
> I'm unfamiliar with the clam bit. Most of us SubGenii are at least 1/2 > yeti
He, he.
--
ren -n- stuff
ren
> no...the clam bit is from the church of $cientology. Most subgenii
> are just anti CO$...from what I understand..
>
The difference between the CO$ and the COT$G is
that the CO$ takes themselves far too seriously
and this is of serious concern to any self
respecting COT$G who's very mission is to destroy
corruption and fraud though the genteel art of
'Pseudo,' The Martial Art devised by our
organization to fight religious SPAM and other
assholiness.
ren
> The entire Co$-vs-the-Net thing is a war between the Co$ and the
> SubGenii. The Co$ tried to remove alt.religion.scientology ... the
> SubGenii proceeded to take over usenet (http://www.sputum.com/cns/)
In the beginning of religion on the Internet there
were two factions. The CO$ and the COT$G. It's one
of the reasons I was arrested for the third time
and forced to join the National Security Agency.
Who wants to be exported back to the Common Wealth
of Independant States? :P I will sell out at a
very reasonable price.
wendolen
In article <34F5A0D1...@netgoths.com>, r...@netgoths.com wrote:
: > The entire Co$-vs-the-Net thing is a war between the Co$ and the
: > SubGenii. The Co$ tried to remove alt.religion.scientology ... the
: > SubGenii proceeded to take over usenet (http://www.sputum.com/cns/)
:
: In the beginning of religion on the Internet there
: were two factions. The CO$ and the COT$G.
So when did Kibo enter the equation?
W, who's been wondering about kibology for a veeery long time.
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Ron Cecchini
wend...@nwlink.com (wendolen) wrote:
> W, who's been wondering about kibology for a veeery long time.
I not only went to school w/ him, but now pass by his office every single day.
Weird, huh?
][
(who apparently knows alot of people...)
Christabel La Motte
In <Ron.Cecchini-2...@155.95.71.51>,
Ron Cecchini <Ron.Ce...@GSC.GTE.Com> wrote:
> wend...@nwlink.com (wendolen) wrote:
>
> > W, who's been wondering about kibology for a veeery long time.
>
> I not only went to school w/ him, but now pass by his office every single day.
You went to school with Leader Kibo?
Well, THAT explains everything...
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klaatu
wendolen wrote:
>
> In article <34F5A0D1...@netgoths.com>, r...@netgoths.com wrote:
>
> : > The entire Co$-vs-the-Net thing is a war between the Co$ and the
> : > SubGenii. The Co$ tried to remove alt.religion.scientology ... the
> : > SubGenii proceeded to take over usenet (http://www.sputum.com/cns/)
> :
> : In the beginning of religion on the Internet there
> : were two factions. The CO$ and the COT$G.
>
> So when did Kibo enter the equation?
>
Um, perhaps you, like kibo, should grep the net. Perhaps you should grep the
net for kibo, andrea chen, doctress neutopia, neutopia, new-neutopia, and
definitely try
http://www.webtrance.co.za/ and follow all of the links, it's a great site for
clues!
>
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> "Any girl can be glamourous. All you have to do is stand still and
> look stupid."
> - Hedy Lamarr
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Ron Cecchini
lam...@grendel.net (Christabel La Motte) wrote:
> You went to school with Leader Kibo?
Yeah, but I didn't know him.
I think he was already gradjeeated by the time I really knew who he was.
> Well, THAT explains everything...
And you're trying to say.... what?
][
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Faustus
Wow, I am impressed you even finished the book. Lost interest round
about the 600 page mark and just put it down.
And yes, he did do the yacht bit. But more amusing was the fact that
while he would have his followers NOT use any sort of meds, he himself
took painpills, drugs for high blood pressure, and antihistamines on a
daily basis.
But, this all ties in with the belief that, if people are dumb enough
to believe this crap, they deserve to die of trivial infections and
random treatable diseases. (Down to 70% left of humanity to kiss off
if we let these idiots go. And just think off all the open parking
spaces!)
Faust.
bobgoblin wrote in message ...
>
>> > Ron Hubbard wasn't stupid. He was however a natural-born conman
who could
>> > not distinguish lies from truth and had no ethical sense.
>> >
>
>Didn't he take all that money he made from scientology and those
horrid
>sci-fi books and buy a big yacht. then he just sailed around with
all
>those teenage boys with him for company. At least, that's what I
read
>somewhere once. I did make the mistake of buying the hardcopy of
>Battlefield: Earth when it first came out in, what, 80-81? It was
great
>for the first 600 pages. Then the last 200 sucked more than the
Titanic
>did all those people on the way to the atlantic floor.
>
>--
>- el señor lyons
>- BOBGOBLIN EXTRAORDINAIRE
>
>
bobgoblin
ren
> : In the beginning of religion on the Internet there
> : were two factions. The CO$ and the COT$G.
>
> So when did Kibo enter the equation?
>
> W, who's been wondering about kibology for a veeery long time.
We do not claim to be Kibo. However, in 1987, at
Henderson University, a small group of computer
nerds and Steve Jackson started a trend of card
playing which influenced the creation of 'MAGIC'
the game. Those guys spent all of their time on
computers and played that card game so much that
they really believed there was a conspiracy
everywhere. They believed they were ACES. The
cAbAl was born. Discordia changed forever, then
Ivan Stang heard the voice of our Lord in Dallas.
The rest is history.
Ask the Ron about Kibo. Ron is from god and a part
of god. Ron C. He, he.
--
ren @ http://www.netgoths.com
ren
Really? I also know that you are pretty famous
yourself. ;)
> I not only went to school w/ him, but now pass by his office every single day.
>
> Weird, huh?
>
> ][
>
> (who apparently knows alot of people...)
Yes you do. ;P
bobgoblin
It would be funny if the evil psychic overlords did descend from the
skies and took all the scientologists with them. It would be like
Heaven's Gate all over again and we'd be rid of them.
Did you ever try to read any of the sequel's written posthumously? I
never did. The first one was bad enough. The last 200 pages of the
first book were nothing but some slapstick comedy done to tie everything
up to finish the book as quickly as could be. Did Hubbard even finish
writing the book himself? or was it a ghost writer? The only thing I do
know was that it sucked.
Faustus {arr...@k-online.com} from alt.gothic shat this upon my desktop:
> Wow, I am impressed you even finished the book. Lost interest round
> about the 600 page mark and just put it down.
>
> And yes, he did do the yacht bit. But more amusing was the fact that
> while he would have his followers NOT use any sort of meds, he himself
> took painpills, drugs for high blood pressure, and antihistamines on a
> daily basis.
>
> But, this all ties in with the belief that, if people are dumb enough
> to believe this crap, they deserve to die of trivial infections and
> random treatable diseases. (Down to 70% left of humanity to kiss off
> if we let these idiots go. And just think off all the open parking
> spaces!)
>
> Faust.
>
>
>
> bobgoblin wrote in message ...
> >
Kira Moore
In article <k_bonham-250...@mg4-44.its.utas.edu.au>,
Doc G*thzo <k_bo...@postoffice.utas.edu.au> wrote:
>In article <6ctjau$2jt$1...@flotsam.uits.indiana.edu>,
>
>> Wanna know something funny? Not only is my dad a Scientologist, my mother
>> is a serious Randian Objectivist. If I had to pick one, it'd be Rand, but
>> I'd rather cherish my own delusions, thanks just the same.
>
Oh yes. As of 1977, never fear.
~Kira, way too anti-authoritarian for LRH, way too mystical for AR
--
~~"Among wandering spirits of darkness, you're a nice Midwestern girl,~~
~~~~~~~~but among nice Midwestern girls, you must confess,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~you're a wandering spirit of darkness."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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David Gerard
On Sun, 1 Mar 1998 07:13:18 GMT, rly...@bigfoot.com.HEY.YOU (bobgoblin)
wrote:
:Did you ever try to read any of the sequel's written posthumously? I
:never did. The first one was bad enough. The last 200 pages of the
:first book were nothing but some slapstick comedy done to tie everything
:up to finish the book as quickly as could be. Did Hubbard even finish
:writing the book himself? or was it a ghost writer? The only thing I do
:know was that it sucked.
Robert Vaughn Young, who was the head Public Relations Officer for
Scientology for twenty years and has since rejoined the world (and is a
regular contributor to alt.religion.scientology), apparently says that
every word of those fucking books came out of Ron's typewriter. No doubt
there was some *substantial* editing involved, but it seems Ron did indeed
write the things. We're talking about a life-long submitter of the first
draft here.
--
http://thingy.apana.org.au/~fun/ AGSF Unit 0|4 http://suburbia.net/~fun/
Ron Cecchini
ren <r...@netgoths.com> wrote:
> Ask the Ron about Kibo. Ron is from god and a part of god. Ron C. He, he.
But I will not be requesting that you genuflect before me...
][
(who will be starting a United Chuch of Rons in the near future.
Ron Popeil will be my minister of televangelism.
email me for admission requirements.)