s.
Elly: I obviously don't know what if any of this is true, & frankly, i
don't give a flying fuck. My sincerest sympathies go out to you that this
"s." person felt justified in airing your dirty laundry world-wide simply
because her pal felt burned in the whole situation. If you fell out of
love w/this josh guy, well, that happens. If he didn't get the message
until a couple weeks ago, well, that too happens. Whatever the situation,
remember that this is *your* life, & you make the decisions, no matter
what somebody else throws at you.
There may be ppl on here who eat up this post & write you off, but hey,
most of us are anonymous, faceless ppl whose given names you don't even
know. Fuck it. Do what you feel you need to do.
Raphrat: Stick by yr gal, my boy. After this sort of personal attack,
she'll likely need it. I would.
BTW, re the following quote:
>if you've hurt him so that he
>can't believe in love ever again, i swear i'll find you and make your
>life even more horrible than it is.
I'm sure Madison, WI isn't so small & "Josh's" circle of friends so vast
that you've no clue who this chickie-poo is. The above constitutes
assault (i don't think one has to jump to conclusions to interpret the
above as a threat), & i'd wager that the entire post could be construed
as slander, esp since it was posted to Usenet. If sure a bit of
a.g.SF-style research can yield the girl's service provider, the
postmaster of which should definitely receive a letter.
--
Lady Bathory
FUCK
OFF.
-eloquence-
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But I'll say this one thing.
That has to be one of the most impelling flames I have ever read. I
don't know any of the players mentioned but, for sheer mastery of the
medium, I am utterly impressed.
It's a shame she'll never know.
Fox
--
Choke on guilt that's far too good for you
/\_/\ F Say one word I'll laugh and bury you
\O O/ O Leave you in the place where you left me
\o/ X Garbage - As Heaven Is Wide
do not reply to this thread, let it die.
a few facts:
1. the "Josh Lenius" page at -eloquence-'s
URL was put up during the first month they
were going out.
2. since then Josh had been psychologically
abusing her and treating her like a lesser
individual, which escalated as the relationship
progressed.
3. i knew about all of this several months in
advance BEFORE C2.
4. i bear no personal ill will to Josh Lenius
who was always cordial to myself. the person
who wrote the "fools" post is NOT Josh Lenius,
so please do not email him.
5. the opinions of the one writing the "fools"
post are simply one side of the story. the side of a
friend of the one who got the short end of the stick.
at least Josh still has friends in Madison....
6. if you have not read the "fools" post, don't
bother. it is simply PUBLIC character assassination upon
an alt.gothic regular by one who's sole purpose
for logging onto the newsgroup was to slander.
once again,
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD. IT IS CAUSING MUCH PAIN TO
ONE PERSON WHO DOES NOT DESERVE IT.
_LET THIS THREAD DIE_
_______________________________THE RAPHRAT_______________________________
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I agree with Lady Bathory. Every story has at least two sides, this one
appears to have three. Elly doesn't have to justify her actions to
anyone, except herself, and if she is happy with the decisions that she's
made, then that's all that matters.
An attack of this manner is not only cowardly, but essentially useless.
It accomplishes nothing except to make all of us wonder what kind of
loser this "S" person is, and why isn't Josh out there fighting his own
battles? Even if he is as hurt as she says he is, even if everything she
says is true, is it really any of her business?
Shit happens, and everyone goes through emotional traumas like this one.
It's never enjoyable, but we ALL have been, or will be in a relationship
that breaks down. Posting a message like this one only makes matters far
worse for everyone involved.
Elly, although we've never met, or even corresponded through mail or on
this ng, you have my support; do what makes you happy, and be true to
yourself. In the end, that's all that really matters.
Sheryl
Don't read Usenet much, eh?
& no, i *don't* consider myself to truly know raphrat or elly, except via
email, or this josh fella at all. But i found the post to be a pathetic
attempt at personal slander & ranks down there on my flame-o-meter w/"I
know you are but what am i?" & "i'm rubber, you're glue."
Cheap shots, threats, & dragging personal life BS onto a national forum
are to my mind in NO way impressive. The entire thing was witless,
lacking in humourous zingers that defy comeback, verbose, & stylistically
poor. "Mastery of the medium?" Egads, man, get yr ass over to alt.flame &
obtain a frame of reference.
--
Lady Bathory
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Anubis is born the Phoenix..."
- Egyptian Proverb
Email: jmle...@students.wisc.edu
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elly and boo --
I'm really sorry that someone out there felt that the best form of seeking
revenge was to slander your names on usenet.
whatever did happen was none of our business and is something that needs
to be dealt with yourself in whatever way you felt justified in doing it.
Haveing been on the bad end of a bitter ex-lover I know how shitty this
is.
Whoever wrote this has a lot of gall and is obviously all the names he was
calling elly. If he was anything worth his shit he would have AT THE VERY
LEAST had the balls to post his name with it. If he was a true adult he
would have spoken with you directly and not felt that slandering you was
the "adult" route to go.
Whoever this is is no worse than the trolls on here.
I just want you to know this didn't do squat to what many of us think
about both of you.
oddlystrange
(who also thinks his little "threat" was inane)
well i award elly like *2 trillion* points for dumping this loser.
he's obviously really good at doing the mindfuck thing.
he won't be all that good at doing it here though.
sorry whoever you are your post gets no cookie from me. I never once say
elly hanign her dirty laundry up here.
thank-you for stinking up tha place.
oddlystrange
(who more than anything else despises people who think that mindfucking
people is a good way to hurt them)
Yes. I followed the soap opera. I guess writing a fucking novel was good
theapy for you. So, here is the response you didn't want.
"That was then, this is now; people change; so don't have a cow."
They have a drug for people like you. It's called prozac.
Good luck to you and Josh. I'm glad you've found someone.
P.S. people fall out of love sometimes, live with it.
[some stuff about dirty laundry (people love it when you lose...)[
> so someone cheated on your friend
> LET THEM WORK IT OUT
> YOU DONT NEED TO INTEREFERE THIS MUCH
> damn that pissed me off
> good job, troll god
i think i like erin. not only is nimue an *excellent* choice of account
names, but the idea that this whole thing really didnt need to be aired
here is quite agreeable to me.
thats all.
so i give her the official "hey! you stole my thoughts!" award of
the day from perkygoff world headquarters.
lurve
-joel
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v perkygoff world headquarters, sf, ca v
thats prolly as good thing
regardless of what is true, or how much
personal problems are PERSONAL
if you have such an incredibly problem with this person, why didnt you
PERSONALYLY email her?
were you that convinced that she would be more likely to read it on
an international newsgroup than in her own mailbox?
or are you really that interested in trying to make everyone possible
hate someone they may not even know
that is the shittiest and cruelest post ive ever seen
and wish i hadnt
and i didnt even read the last few pages, which i can only imagine
were even worse
so someone cheated on your friend
LET THEM WORK IT OUT
YOU DONT NEED TO INTEREFERE THIS MUCH
damn that pissed me off
good job, troll god
erin
>Cheap shots, threats, & dragging personal life BS onto a national forum
>are to my mind in NO way impressive. The entire thing was witless,
>lacking in humourous zingers that defy comeback, verbose, & stylistically
>poor. "Mastery of the medium?" Egads, man, get yr ass over to alt.flame &
>obtain a frame of reference.
OK, I'll admit I don't read many groups on the usenet so my 'frame of
reference' is a tad limited. I'll bow to your greater wisdom on this
one.
Fox
--
/\_/\ F Fear! Chaos! Anarchy! Now that's FUN!
\O O/ O
\o/ X Top Dollar - The Crow
Please honor this,
I despise seeing my friends miserable.
It makes me ANGRY.
--TSM
PLEASE END THIS THREAD NOW.
>That has to be one of the most impelling flames I have ever read. I
>don't know any of the players mentioned but, for sheer mastery of the
>medium, I am utterly impressed.
Do U Jest,
or
Need U Get Out More?
Monkeys can Fling Shit 2.
Stay Intact,
- A
<oOo----------<>--------------<Wretched Design>--------------<>----------oOo>
Indeed, This Face A.Dominy-Cusraque
has been Burned by Tears Praefectus
My Lace is Tattered, & I Am On Fire... Cusr...@tiac.net
<oOo--------------<"Purveyors of Elegant Nastiness">---------------oOo>
>oddlystrange
>
>(who more than anything else despises people who think that mindfucking
>people is a good way to hurt them)
So, if Elly did call Josh for support after S.'s post (as he claims)
who would be doing the mindfucking?
I ask merely out of curiosity of course.
Fox
--
/\_/\ F "You never fail to restore my sense of humor and
\O O/ O my sense of superiority at the same time."
\o/ X
ugg. I'm usually silent, but I can't believe I wasted my time reading
this; what a collosal waste of disk space. It belongs on the bottom of
a bargain bin in Walmart with trashy novels.
As usual I concur w/ Cusraque & Lady Bathory on their comments.
-x
(christian)
-Leonora
If you're going to correspond about it , do it through email or
something...
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: *sigh*
: Alright, I suppose I should stand up from the back row and say
: something. Hello, yes, this is Joshua Lenius, the *one* that has been
: mentioned regarding the 'fools' thread, among other things.
Well hello Mr. Fancy Pants....
<twenty goth points and a used shower head for the first person to
correctly identify the quote>
From my position, which I deem as the most important side of the story, I
see some major problems with you and your friend's little posts, esp.
considering you never wanted to be contacted regarding this again. [1]
If you want to be left alone, it is best you do your best to leave the
other person alone. Attempts to "get back" at them on an international
forum look quite petty, despite any intentions to the contrary.
Many of us have been in nasty situations. I can discuss my ex and
problems I had with her, problems that were solved only by ignoring her.
I recommend you do the same.
: As a personal note, attempting to detach myself from situation as much
: as possible (very difficult, yes I know), I need to agree with Fox...
: deserved or not, painful or not, >I< thought it was a rather impelling
: flame...
Actually, in terms of raw flamage, it sucked. Too long and repetitive.
Add to it the fact that it was a petty stab in the back, it gets no point
and no cookie for little miss muffit.
: But again, I can recognize that hell hath no fury...
...like a woman scorned. Now how exactly has she been scorned? None of
Raph's and Elly's post were directed at her.
: One final note from myself to elly: Why did you call *me* for support
Because it's obvious that you are the only person who could intercede in
this situation. Elly or Raph talking to S. would be meaningless.
Despite S.'s statement, I quite believe she is still lurking here on the
group, trying to see what damage she caused. Rarely does someone who puts
that much into a post not stick around to see what happens. She's no
better than any other troll except that she really hurt a few of my
friends. For that, I will work hard to make her feel unwelcome. That is
something I do very rarely. Congratulations, S., you've worked hard more
this....
Vlad
1- "I asked you NOT to call me anymore." jmle...@students.wisc.edu
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>
> Now, following my own advice, who wants to talk about desserts?
>
> --
> Lady Bathory
Well, someone will prolly tell us to go to rec.food.cooking, or
rec.food.baking, but the girl with the big knives and the silly white hat
is always up for talk about food, or eating food, or playing with food...
I made a pretty cool black forest birthday cake for the guys from DHI
over the weekend. Cream cheese frosting and all.
Any favourites out there? Lady B? Christabel?
Cheers
Sheryl
(If I knew you were comin', I'd have baked a cake..."
Did you know that one definition for a fool is "A cold dessert made from
whipped cream mixed with fruit puree"?
& why am i responding to "the taboo thread", you ask? Because all you
peripherals are being hamhanded *idiots*. You want a thread to die? Don't
respond to it. Period. Even to peal out yr desperate plea of "please stop
responding to this thread." Or change 1.) the subject line, & 2.) the
topic of discussion. (You are at present reading a prime example.)
"fools" would have died Sunday w/no responses other than a smattering of
supportive rallies if a drove of well-meaners hadn't cascaded the
aforementioned sentence.
Truth is, if you *really* give shit one about a couple of ppl, you'll
start a million new threads on topics like "Describe your favorite PVC
clothing item!" or "My gothic orgasm" or some such. You'll stop
stealthily underscoring their hurt by implying yr own on-the-sly email
involvement by yeah-ditto-ing the 3-5 forerunners.
> Now, following my own advice, who wants to talk about desserts?
mmmmm....Creme Brulee....vanilla custard with a carmalized
sugar crust....white chocolate and berries all over the top...
Blast...CRAVING!!!!! Why can't that french place
deliver??
(ps Lady B you are the shit *grin*)
--
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Rosaleen Dhu
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In turmoil and torture we trust.
~~~~~OoO~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~OoO~~~~~
"And he tells himself, it'll be ok....
happiness is just a life away"
~~~~~oOo~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oOo~~~~~
Mmmmm! My mom told me she was going to make a black forest cheesecake
for my birthday this weekend! <drool>
I've got a small can of green chilies that I'm going to throw in a
brownie mix one of these nights. Has anyone here ever done this? The
Frugal Gourmet highly recommends it, so I thought I'd give it a try.
I haven't a clue what it will taste like, but hey, would The Frugal
Gourmet lie???
-'Seph
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> I've got a small can of green chilies that I'm going to throw in a
> brownie mix one of these nights.
humm...sounds rather intimidating. Let us know how it
turns out.
What next? Cajun Cheesecake anyone? ;>
WooHoo!!
Oh.
You were just joking weren't you? :(
Awwwww, heck!
Cheers
Sheryl
Trying to decide if it's too much trouble to make biscotti today.
I think I'm going to make
someone a Cockroach jiggler. . .
--TSM
That reminds me of something fun a friend of mine
does whenever we're feeling creepy and we want to get
plastered (read: every other weekend).
She makes up a huge batch of cherry jello with the
ultra fun additives of vodka and chambord. After it's
set a bit she scoops the concoction into these pretty
little skull cups (the top shuts for easy transport
to the Den of Iniquity of choice).
Alchoholic sweet squishy BRAINS. Generally takes
only two before the world starts lookin' REAL purty.
Well, if you can believe The Frugal Gourmet ;) chocolate and chilies are
quite a popular combination in traditional, Mexican food. I did try his
suggestion of cocoa in your favorite chili recipe, and it really was pretty
good. I still can't imagine chilies in brownies, but I'll let you know.
Perhaps chocolate really does go with everything! (I mean if you can eat
it with ants, are chilies really that dramatic??? ;)
: What next? Cajun Cheesecake anyone? ;>
...a little onyeeeon...a little - oh hell, A LOT of wiiiiine...OOOOO-WEEEE!
OK, here's three easy ways to make black JELL-O.
1) buy it. JELL-O makes a black berry flavored JELL-O that isn't too bad,
or at least they did six months ago when I last bought it.
2) dye it. Black food coloring does exist although it is hard to find.
Also try using normal (red, green, blue) dyes and mixing it with various
JELL-O colors to make black, blood red, or whatever color you want.
TSM, as an art-major goth, probably has a better grasp of color theory
than I do and could give better instructions.
3) try it. Coffee jello. You have to do this from scratch and it is
actually dark brown, not black, but it tastes so good. Also, it is
the only jello with caffine in it :) First buy knox unflavored gelatin.
This is the part of JELL-O that makes it gel. It's usually in the
baking goods section or next to the JELL-O in the grocery store. Next
make a pot of coffee. Drink most, but let some sit on the warmer all
day and get good and strong. Use this as the boiling liquid to make the
jello. Add sugar too or it is a bit bitter.
: I think I'm going to make
: someone a Cockroach jiggler. . .
The coffee jello might work well for this. It has that shiny-brown
chitinous exoskeleton look you want to achieve for a good cheap scare.
: --TSM
-Breton(I can't believe I wrote a whole post on JELL-O)Bienvenue
PS: If any CMU goth (or any Pa goth) wants to send me some Apple Butter,
I'll mail you some Buffalo Wings or some other Buffalo only food item.
unse...@wizards.com (Jillian Sutter) writes:
> In article <5006v8$m...@vega.sysalt.com>, j...@sysalt.com (Jen Radon) wrote:
>
>
> > I've got a small can of green chilies that I'm going to throw in a
> > brownie mix one of these nights. Has anyone here ever done this? The
> > Frugal Gourmet highly recommends it, so I thought I'd give it a try.
> > I haven't a clue what it will taste like, but hey, would The Frugal
> > Gourmet lie???
> >
> > -'Seph
>
> huh? you mean hot chilies in brownies? hmmm...
> (stares off into space vacently for a few minutes).
>
mmmmmmm....
<lustlustlustlustlustlustlustlustlust>
For a chocolate lover, there is _nothing_ more decadent.
Okay, now imagine the foodgasm one gets from, say, an ultra
rich gooey brownie.
Now imagine the endorphin rush you get from a good mouthful of
Dan T.'s Inferno Sauce.
Now imagine the two happening at the same time.
**KABOOM**
<little bits of Xthlc speckle the walls and ceiling>
> Let me know how that turns out. It *sounds* like it would be good, but a
> little
> weird.
>
> I wonder how diced-up tomatillos would taste added to brownies. Or maybe
> added to some sort of fruit tart...
>
Fresh tomatillos are fairly good in a non-citrusy tart.
I dunno about brownies.
> (See what you've started. Now I'm gonna have to go bake this weekend.)
> -Jilli
> **"Gracious pet, ** "Anyway, thank-you-for-having-me **
> **I'm a supernatural being."** at-your-party, Mister Dreamy. **
> ****************************** I had a lovely time." **
> ******************************************************************
> (honest, none of this reflects my workplace's opinion.)
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net.goth Bakeoff, anyone? <g>
> I've got a small can of green chilies that I'm going to throw in a
> brownie mix one of these nights. Has anyone here ever done this? The
> Frugal Gourmet highly recommends it, so I thought I'd give it a try.
> I haven't a clue what it will taste like, but hey, would The Frugal
> Gourmet lie???
>
> -'Seph
huh? you mean hot chilies in brownies? hmmm...
(stares off into space vacently for a few minutes).
Let me know how that turns out. It *sounds* like it would be good, but a
little
weird.
I wonder how diced-up tomatillos would taste added to brownies. Or maybe
added to some sort of fruit tart...
(See what you've started. Now I'm gonna have to go bake this weekend.)
> Whatever happened to those instructions
> on how to make black Jell-o?
I assume it's the same as making black party punch, which my long-lost
friend Wendy used to traditionally make for her weekly shitfaced house
parties. She got the recipe out of a Halloween edition of Good
Housekeeping.
> I think I'm going to make
> someone a Cockroach jiggler. . .
Ewwwww.
--
Lady Bathory
Vanilla - Fudge Ice Cream swirl covered in chocolate.
Jay
Honour, Justice, Courage, Loyalty, Duty.
C.K. Derrick-...@icarus.cc.uic.edu
: Whatever happened to those instructions
: on how to make black Jell-o?
: I think I'm going to make
: someone a Cockroach jiggler. . .
I recommend orange and grape. Makes a muddy blackish brown. Tastes good too.
Vlad
You lot are going to think I'm strange but is it possible to make a
plate of Jello hold together firmly enough by dumping sand in the mix
so you can light a (non-safety) match on it?
There is a reason for asking this, honest!
Fox
--
Marshall and I did pretty good. A young couple were finally
reunited. Sure, they had to die to do it but better late
than never, right? - Eerie Indiana
>I've got a small can of green chilies that I'm going to throw in a
>brownie mix one of these nights. Has anyone here ever done this? The
>Frugal Gourmet highly recommends it, so I thought I'd give it a try.
>I haven't a clue what it will taste like, but hey, would The Frugal
>Gourmet lie???
I've heard of this. Actually, it seems that whenever one hears of tossing
odd shit into dessert concoctions, it's *always* brownies. Nobody ever
makes habanero eclairs or pot torte.
--
Lady Bathory
> Jillian Sutter (unse...@wizards.com) wrote:
> : (See what you've started. Now I'm gonna have to go bake this weekend.)
>
> net.goth Bakeoff, anyone? <g>
>
> -'Seph
>
only if we promise to figure out a way to mail samples of the results to
each other! <drool, drool> What the heck, I'll just up the time on the
treadmill workout...
besides, I've only *just* started experimenting with baking and cooking.
I have a housemate who is a WONDERFUL cook, and he's kinda teaching me.
(But, he wants me to specialize in desserts, 'cos his strength is in
entreés.) The deal is, he'll make a special dinner & play chef for my
boyfriend & I, if I promise to make some sort of nifty dessert for him on
some evening.
-Jilli
(who was gonna make gingerbread bats this weekend, anyways.)
> besides, I've only *just* started experimenting with baking and cooking.
> I have a housemate who is a WONDERFUL cook, and he's kinda teaching me.
> (But, he wants me to specialize in desserts, 'cos his strength is in
> entreés.) The deal is, he'll make a special dinner & play chef for my
> boyfriend & I, if I promise to make some sort of nifty dessert for him on
> some evening.
Sounds like a great deal to me...making the dessert is always the best
part! (Yes, I often enjoy making the damn things as much or more than
EATING them. I know I'm a freak.)
--
Christabel "Mmmmm. Forbidden donut..." La Motte
> Well, if you can believe The Frugal Gourmet ;) chocolate and chilies are
> quite a popular combination in traditional, Mexican food.
He's right. If you have a *good* Mexican restaurant in your area, go
in and order somethign made with "mole". 'Tis quite divine.
--
Christabel "hmmm...needs more peppers...hon, is your tongue on fire
again?" La Motte
Actually, habaneros would probably be good in some sort of fruit desert,
since they have a very fruity/perfumy taste.
As for pot, it generally tastes like yard waste, so anything it is put in
will have to be able to camoflague that fairly well. And it needs a lot
of heat to become really useful ;) A good stir-fry or Cajun style dish
would work well.
Hardrock
--
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hard...@speakeasy.org http://www.speakeasy.org/~hardrock
[Hardrock]
"There is no Cabal."
Cabal Special Agent #007 Full membership application pending
> Thus saith Jillian Sutter the Unworthy, in the Year of Our Lord Wed, 28
Aug 1996 09:43:43 -0800 :
> > I wonder how diced-up tomatillos would taste added to brownies. Or maybe
> > added to some sort of fruit tart...
>
> Oooo, the tomatillos' tartness should be an excellent compliment to the
> sweeter fruits. Let me know if you try that tart idea.
> >
> > (See what you've started. Now I'm gonna have to go bake this weekend.)
> > -Jilli
>
> Can i like the ... Bowl :)
>
> Hardrock
<politely dubious tone of voice> uh-huh. Suuuure, Hardrock. If it'll
make you feel better..
Seriously, tho'...Seattle net.goth baking party? C'mon, one of us has to
have a house that would work for this...
<stares off into space again>
my house just might work, actually. The housemates prolly wouldn't be
that unnerved..I think.
but I would want control of the invite list..
-Jilli
(who really *IS* going to have to bake this weekend. Dammit.)
>Now, following my own advice, who wants to talk about desserts?
Where does one start?
I really like to bake them, and many have tried my brownies, banana
bread and chocolate chip cookies. I can make cakes as well, and many
have enjoyed various flavors that I have baked over the years.
But, if I am indulging, I do like anything with dark (plain)
chocolate, Ben and Jerry's or Hagendaaz (sp?) ice creams, and a good
cheesecake or key lime pie.
One regret in living where I live now is the size oven the oven: it's
so narrow, I cannot fit a cookie sheet into it. Also, one cannot buy
proper chocolate chips here.
Another speciality: English toffee squares.
GothPat...should not be doing this before having lunch.
If you mean the oatmeal Presto-Log looking things, i always loved those :)
And if you ever run out of trioxane tabs, they burn pretty well too.
I miss the Maple Nut Cake.
Hardrock, who will probably hit the surplus stores looking for this shit
now
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> I've got a small can of green chilies that I'm going to throw in a
> brownie mix one of these nights. Has anyone here ever done this?
> The Frugal Gourmet highly recommends it, so I thought I'd give it a
> try. I haven't a clue what it will taste like, but hey, would The
> Frugal Gourmet lie???
Sometimes I'll throw 1-2 tsp. of vietnamese style garlic chili paste
into a batch of chocolate chip cookies, that makes some pretty HOT
snacks. Of course, green chiles are relatively mild.
I've actually been dipping brownies and Oreos in salsa since I was a
lad-- It's one of my favorite foods.
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Oooo, the tomatillos' tartness should be an excellent compliment to the
sweeter fruits. Let me know if you try that tart idea.
>
> (See what you've started. Now I'm gonna have to go bake this weekend.)
> -Jilli
Can i like the ... Bowl :)
Hardrock
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Well,
just take into consideration that one of his favorite things is tripe.
Excess and Oohs,
++Allison++
http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~serpe/end.html
Alright,
pretend that you're stoned off your ass for a moment.
You got to this state by eating
POT TORTE.
So you're sitting there listening
to the mold in your mouth grow,
and a friend strolls into the room
and notices just how stupid you are.
They ask:
"So, how'd you get stoned?"
Do you think that you could manage
to say something like "POT TORTE"
without choking on your own tongue
from laughing?
> --
> Lady Bathory
--TSM
PS- Brownies are a dish that are
known for a real strong flavor that hides
other flavors quite well. . .
You don't get apple butter in Buffalo?
Send me your addy.
(No need to reciprocate -i'm used to it).
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>...a little onyeeeon...a little - oh hell, A LOT of wiiiiine...OOOOO-WEEEE!
Cayn't Fuhget
a lil' Ciiiuyeeon Peppuh.
Stay Intact,
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Knowing me, i'd prolly try to say it 3 times fast, & likely followed by
"One smart fellow, he felt smart."
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<LOL!> "POT TORhhhhggggccckkkk<choke-cough-gasp!> ...<thud>
Like peanut-butter? Take a spoonful or two and add it to your
Vanilla - Fudge Ice Cream swirl covered in chocolate. Trust me.
...Especially crunchy PB!!! <drool>
I once ate a peach custrad pie that had a little extra "bite."
The person cooking had grabbed the wrong little cannister from the spice
cabinet...instead of the nutmeg, she grabbed the cayenne.
It was actually pretty good...
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}STOP THIS THREAD...PLEASE...
We could just discuss your nose again...
{exile}
> Alchoholic sweet squishy BRAINS. Generally takes
>only two before the world starts lookin' REAL purty.
We sometimes do that when we have parties. The problem I find is that
the vodka has a tendency to stop the jelly from setting properly. You
end up with this sort of amorphous goo. It still knocks you under the
table after a couple of cups but it's just not the same.
Maybe I'm putting too much vodka in. Oh, hang on, you can never have
too much vodka. Silly me.
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>Seriously, tho'...Seattle net.goth baking party? C'mon, one of us has to
>have a house that would work for this...
Lauren and Elanah's house has a tremendous kitchen, renovated by the
owner of the house, who is a gourmet cook.
BTW, a few cruched chipotles might work in brownies. I know they're
wonderful with mole.
kirsti
(not jherek)
there is some traditional mexican sauce that contains cocoa powder (non
sweetened) but i cant remember what its called cause i'm brain dead at
the moment.
re chilies in brownies: is that for taste or does it make the brownies
really moist?
re frugie: i think he bullshits quite often about stuff, but seems to
always pull it off.
i prefer julia child. she gets tanked on the wine and drops whole sides
of beef on the floor, picks em up, brushes them off and uses it anyway.
Isolate
fools are actually very good desserts and easy to make. they were very
popular back in colonial days. mock fools are disgusting because they
are not made out of real whipped cream, but rather whipped topping and
they dont use fresh fruit either. icky.
i've always wanted to make a charlotte russe but never had the time nor
the patience. as desserts go i highly reccommend english triffle as an
alternative to your standard cake or pie or ice cream. much more
exciting.
Isolate
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: Can i like the ... Bowl :)
Yes, of course you can like the bowl. The spoon too, for that matter. As
for me, I'm going to LICK the bowl :)
-Breton (I love food threads) Bienvenue
So, um...
Are Jell-o Jigglers goth?
-D
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>
> <twenty goth points and a used shower head for the first person to
> correctly identify the quote>
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And Jack left town.
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Okay,
Shoot.
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<grin>
You use lead soap, don't you?
> -D
>
> [And no comments about being given 'Shower head'. This is a family
> newsgroup, after all.]
That's right,
remember kids,
you can't say "pigfucker" in front of Jesus.
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I'm not sure. He just said it was "suprisingly delicious" or something like
that.
: re frugie: i think he bullshits quite often about stuff, but seems to
: always pull it off.
I think most chef's do.
: i prefer julia child. she gets tanked on the wine and drops whole sides
: of beef on the floor, picks em up, brushes them off and uses it anyway.
<LOL!> Yep. Have you seen the episode of her show where she makes...
(ARGH!...oh, I can't remember what it was) maybe bisquits or pastries,
and at the end of the show when she's talking about how wonderful they are
she pops one in her mouth and decides they're too disgusting to fake it?
She turned to the sink and spat it out, and the faces she was making!!!
She apologized and said that it had just so "revolting" she couldn't
eat it. I wish I could remember how she recovered from that one, but I was
so busy laughing my ass off, I just don't remember the end of that show.
Knowing how I sometimes like to bake (and keep my co-workers fatter than I ;)
one of my friends once offered me a faux-apple pie recipe. Supposedly you
can make a pie with Ritz crackers in such a way that it tastes like apples.
I never tried it. I just can't understand why someone would want to do that.
<shudder>
>Knowing me, i'd prolly try to say it 3 times fast, & likely followed by
>"One smart fellow, he felt smart."
Hadn't heard of this one before.
Just tried it
Now I feel REAL stupid *8)
> one of my friends once offered me a faux-apple pie recipe. Supposedly you
> can make a pie with Ritz crackers in such a way that it tastes like apples.
Eeeeewwwww! Gross!
That's scarier than those silly housewife cakes with sauerkraut in them.
Blech!
Sheryl
(who is all for creative cooking, but really does wonder about people
some times)
> : re frugie: i think he bullshits quite often about stuff, but seems to
> : always pull it off.
>
> I think most chef's do.
That's because after going through years of training and really crappy
work, being told that what you've made is not suitable to feed the Sous
Chef's dog, once people start appreciating and raving about what you've
created, well, it tends to go to your head a bit. And what you don't
know, you fake.
>
> : i prefer julia child. she gets tanked on the wine and drops whole sides
> : of beef on the floor, picks em up, brushes them off and uses it anyway.
Martha Stewart is the worst for faking stuff on her show, and for
screwing stuff up and covering it up. I watched her make a simple gravy
once (after she had burned and massacred an innocent turkey), it had big
chunks of burnt stuff floating around in it. She strained it, which got
out the chunks, but it probably tasted like hell. It's a good thing!
Cheers
Sheryl
> Supposedly you can make a pie with Ritz crackers in such a way that
> it tastes like apples. I never tried it. I just can't understand
> why someone would want to do that.
I actually tasted it years ago (my grandmother made it). As I recall
it didn't taste bad, but it didn't taste like apple pie either.
I have to agree with you, the real question should be why, WHY,
WHY???
^^^^^^
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> Jen Radon wrote:
>
> > one of my friends once offered me a faux-apple pie recipe. Supposedly you
> > can make a pie with Ritz crackers in such a way that it tastes like apples.
>
> Eeeeewwwww! Gross!
>
> That's scarier than those silly housewife cakes with sauerkraut in them.
> Blech!
>
It is on the back of the Ritz Crackers box, or at any rate was the last
time that I bought them. I've never been foolish enough to try it, though,
as I fail to see any resemblance (or taste, or smell, for that matter)
between Ritz Crackers and apples.
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What is this??? I go away for FOUR DAYS...and people are talking about my
nose AGAIN???
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You've got to admit... it's an interesting subject for discussion.
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Hmmm... I pay her just a little attention... what do I get...?
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> > : i prefer julia child. she gets tanked on the wine and drops whole sides
OOoooh!! Topic Drift Alert!
> > : of beef on the floor, picks em up, brushes them off and uses it anyway.
>
> Martha Stewart is the worst for faking stuff on her show, and for
> screwing stuff up and covering it up. I watched her make a simple gravy
> once (after she had burned and massacred an innocent turkey), it had big
> chunks of burnt stuff floating around in it. She strained it, which got
> out the chunks, but it probably tasted like hell. It's a good thing!
Anyone else out there think Graham Kehr has lost it since his discovery
of low-fat cookery? The first recipe I ever made from a book was his
scrambled eggs from the Galloping Gormet Cookbook in about 1976, and
the recipe called for greasing the pan with butter, and pouring fresh
cream into the mix "to stop the cooking". I still make this...
And why do I find Yan Can Cook so fascinating???
(So can you!)
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} > Well, if you can believe The Frugal Gourmet ;) chocolate and chilies are
} > quite a popular combination in traditional, Mexican food.
}
} He's right. If you have a *good* Mexican restaurant in your area, go
} in and order somethign made with "mole". 'Tis quite divine.
Jalapeno jelly... I only wish I could find it in
"HOT".
{exile}
Jen Radon (j...@sysalt.com) writes:
> Stained (sta...@interlog.com) wrote:
> : I made a pretty cool black forest birthday cake for the guys from DHI
> : over the weekend. Cream cheese frosting and all.
>
> Mmmmm! My mom told me she was going to make a black forest cheesecake
> for my birthday this weekend! <drool>
I spent all last week at an awful training camp where they fed us no
dessert but chocolate cake without the chocolate. I would kill for
anything with sugar in it right about now, but I'm broke. :~(
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William C Isenhour (wi...@andrew.cmu.edu) writes:
> Whatever happened to those instructions
> on how to make black Jell-o?
>
> I think I'm going to make
> someone a Cockroach jiggler. . .
>
> --TSM
Black jello kicks! Really, it works and everything. Tastes depressingly
fruity, but hey. For genuine black wiggly bits, who the hell cares!
i like the woman who does new southern cooking, i cant remember her name,
but she screws up all the time but owns up to it and says things like "it
happens to all of us" makes me feel about myself when my pie crusts arent
tender and my cheese sauce is lumpy. but there were the amazing
delicious vegetable and beef kebobs, yummmmmmy. and for desserts out of
the fannie farmer cooking book the lemon pudding. creamy and definately
tangy. has the neat layer of light sponge cake type fluff on top and
creamy lemony pudding underneath, and its simple to make. hardest thing
to do aside from separating the egg white and whipping them is taking the
zest off of the lemons. i call it citrus premature balding.
Isolate
Isolate
Hrm. I've never heard o' that one...
But if it would suffice, I've got a very nice Pavlova recipe, and you
could just try to downscale it...
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> i've always wanted to make a charlotte russe but never had the time nor
> the patience. as desserts go i highly reccommend english triffle as an
> alternative to your standard cake or pie or ice cream. much more
> exciting.
well seeing as oddly does not eat half of what i make -- i will make you
one later this week or next week,, have to have the urge to bake again
sketchy
because in the end it all catches up with you
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> GERALD J. LA CORTE (l...@hopi.dtcc.edu) wrote:
> : Vanilla - Fudge Ice Cream swirl covered in chocolate.
>
> Like peanut-butter? Take a spoonful or two and add it to your
> Vanilla - Fudge Ice Cream swirl covered in chocolate. Trust me.
> ...Especially crunchy PB!!! <drool>
chubby hubby
(vanila malt icecream, with fudge, peanutbutter ripple w/ choclate
covered, peanutbutterfilled pretzel chunks)
> Jen Radon wrote:
>
> > one of my friends once offered me a faux-apple pie recipe. Supposedly you
> > can make a pie with Ritz crackers in such a way that it tastes like apples.
>
> Eeeeewwwww! Gross!
second, from someone who has had it, it is much better to make tham from
scratch,, and adding red wine to crackers just makes them soggy
> Well, one caveat. Whatever you do, don't ever try to use Irish creme
>
> in cooking. I did, thinking it would simply evaporate the alcohol and
>
> leave creamy sugary stuff.
nonono,, irish cream should be used in icings and sauces,, it does not
work well in baking,, if you have to use some sort of alcoholic substance
i reccomend kahlua or grand mariner(orange) these work well in baking.
hardest thing
> to do aside from separating the egg white and whipping them is taking the
> zest off of the lemons. i call it citrus premature balding.
>
> Isolate
use a cheese grater to xest lemons,, it is really hard to do it with a
knife and fork... and to seporate eggs -- break te shell and pour the
white in a cup and hold the yolk in the shell, then put the youk in a cup
and freeze if you are not going to use that day( and mark how many are in
the cup/jar
sketchy
(or you could go the cheesy way and buy an egg strainer)
>>
>>Now, following my own advice, who wants to talk about desserts?
>>
I have to tell You that one of the nicest things I ever saw was when
the gals in a company I worked in mada a birthday cake for me that had
dark chocolate covering and a skull and crossbones done in white
icing. That one was really sweet.
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>
>Well, one caveat. Whatever you do, don't ever try to use Irish creme
>in cooking. I did, thinking it would simply evaporate the alcohol and
>leave creamy sugary stuff. Wrong. The batter tasted absolutely
>delicious, but the end result was muffins that tasted like they'd been
>soaked in rubbing alcohol---and I only used about a shot. If anyone
>knows the chemical reaction or what-have-you that causes it to do this,
>I'd be curious to know.
>
>
Sorry not on deserts, but cooking with alcohol. Cooking a chicken dinner
for some one I was interested in I discovered I was out of Teriaki <sp>
sauce, so decided to try useing some of the Cabernet Sauvignon I had
planned to go with dinner. The Chicken tasted great, just be sure to
serve under very low light conditions. The meat was stained a rather
putrid purpulish color.
Fire
: *sigh*
The only thing that you said that makes sense.
: Even as I'm typing this, I'm debating whether or not I should hit the
: "send" key... This is not my forum per se, and elly has already
So your relationship broke up, "Deal"
And stop sending your little friends over to do your dirty laundry
> Hmmm... I pay her just a little attention... what do I get...?
> A kick and a vendetta.
Hey, I wouldn't knock it-- vendettas are pretty hard to come by these
days...
<g>
Michelle
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"When he went away I felt a sweetness
like music, if music could pleasure the
skin with a little chill." --Steinbeck
Then turned out surprisingly well. The chilis added a nice undertone of
heat and spice, and made them very moist & chewy. I think next time tho',
I'll use fresh chilis, and see what sort of difference that makes.
-Jilli
(and the gingerbread bats turned out great as usual.)
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Oh, sure. Don't give us any. Tease.
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Through the darkness of future passed
The magician longs to see,
One chants out between two worlds:
Fire, walk with me.
STOP, STOP, STOP!
< insanity> Loon jumps up from his computer, runs into his kitchen.
He looks nerotically around for FOOD! He do not see any. Screaming, he
jumps out the third story window of his apartment building, "FOOD"!
Hitting the ground running, Loon soon finds himself at a local grocery
store. Men fear, women run, and children scream; The Loon is loose in
row 5, the bakery. Frosting is flying, cookies are contorting, and
strudel is sliding. Suddenly the National Guard appears, surrounding
the gory scene. Helicopters are flying over the top of the store and
the President is notified. </insanity>
With his stomach full of crappy store bakery, our hero, under the
cover of the night, walks back home, makes a pot of coffee, and
promptly goes to sleep in front of his monitor. ( where else? )
With wishes of Prosperity,
Loon Iam.