anti-fear
Dag
What situation, thing or concept that make many people uncomfortable or
scared don't you fear. I don't mean simply tolerate, but that you
actively seek out and enjoy.
Dag
Fnord Prefect Fnord
large dogs.
siani
i recently chose to go 80 miles to a festival on the back of someone i
don't know that well's very fast motorbike in inappropriate gear rather
than getting a lift in a car. because it sounded like more fun.
i also used to ride my vespa on snow for lulz.
once, i passed out drunk on a doorstep in London in January and woke up
covered in frost.
i've had hypothermia repeatedly for the basic reason that i'm an idiot.
i drive too fast because roundabouts get INTERESTING when they go
sideways, drink more than my doctor says will kill me, and so on.
so, you know, death, basically.
siani (no, really, i'm going with death)
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> once, i passed out drunk on a doorstep in London in January and woke up
> covered in frost.
>
> i've had hypothermia repeatedly for the basic reason that i'm an idiot.
>
> i drive too fast because roundabouts get INTERESTING when they go
> sideways, drink more than my doctor says will kill me, and so on.
You can take the girl out of Canada...
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Snakes. And driving really big things.
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Do you mean "many people" in the general population, or many people
here?
Needles. High speeds. Drugs. People who violate the RICO act.
Hrm. Only two out of four in the last six months. I am slowing down in
my old age.
Siobhan
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Although I don't actively seek out and enjoy anymore, but my answer
would be death.
When I was younger, I was the type that would smoke for lung cancer.
Unlike other people who would smoke without purpose or reason, I
actually had a goal.
Regards...
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I guess speaking the truth or disagreeing when your so called peers or
those that
are supposed to or should know better disagree with you.
madmiah
Public speaking. I am a corporate trainer so I have to get up in front
of strangers all the time and talk.
Dag
Figure I'll add mine. I love walking alone through crowded streets and
urban spaces. I love the feeling of walking down a street feeling like
I'm surrounded by the entire city. Surrounded by the cacophony of
countless other people. Forging upstream through a teeming mass of
abstract bodies.
On the other hand if I'm in the mountains I get annoyed if I walk past
more than two groups of people in a day or am forced to camp within line
of site of another tent.
Dag
`una
Fairly common phobias of Americans I've run into that I really like:
Big Dogs - dobermans are sweet, rottweilers are giant puppies
if treated well, pit bulls are astoundingly calm, and St Bernards
and Newfoundlands are big, slobbery teddybears.
Endings - I read the last page first. I tend to say goodbye first
(or at least say something I know will make someone leave before
they tell me they want to...it's always obvious.) I plan the return
trip before I plan my departure. There are enough natural endings
that I never need too manufacture any.
The Economy Collapsing/Poverty - even poor people fear poverty
because it can always get worse. Been there, done that.
I'm not afraid of it because it can't do anything except
affect the convenience of my life. There are far worse things
than being inconvenienced. Not saying it doesn't suck because
it does harder than most things, but I'm not afraid of suck.
Rape/Murder/Terrorists/Death by Fat or Cancer/etc - I'm not
afraid of anything the news convinces people they should be afraid of.
Statistically speaking, the chances of any of that stuff happening
to me are pretty small. Realistically speaking, if they do happen,
there's going to be sweet fuck all I can do to prevent it. I'm not
saying that I'm going to walk naked through dangerous neighborhoods
with a FREE MEAT sign on my ass, but I'm not nervous in airport security
suspiciously eyeballing brown skinned people either. I've got more
important and interesting things on my mind.
What Other People Think - It still hurts sometimes, but so what?
It doesn't cause any lasting damage unless I decide to hold on to it.
Even if it does cost me a job, a friend, my home, or whatever,
there are other jobs, friends, homes, etc. What other people think
can only inconvenience me. It cannot harm me, unless someone uses
it as an excuse to harm me. If that happens, I know what to do.
I think the people who have those kinds of fears are afraid that
they lack value. They are afraid that if they lose what's important
to them, there won't be anything left, they'll break and never be fixed.
I think they have a lot left to learn.
`una - will always have a lot left to learn
Jennie Kermode
> What situation, thing or concept that make many people uncomfortable or
> scared don't you fear. I don't mean simply tolerate, but that you
> actively seek out and enjoy.
Hmm. I've always been fascinated by insects. I like spiders -
and bats, and stuff, but then, I'm a goth. I actually like all sorts of
animals which other people are disturbed by. And I enjoy public
speaking, love talking to people who're smarter oo better educated than
I am, and love being underwater. I guess that covers a few common fears.
Jennie
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Peter H. Coffin
> Dag wrote:
>
>> OK so we had the fear/phobia question, now let's flip it around.
>> What situation, thing or concept that make many people uncomfortable or
>> scared don't you fear. I don't mean simply tolerate, but that you
>> actively seek out and enjoy.
>
> Fairly common phobias of Americans I've run into that I really like:
>
>
> Endings - I read the last page first. I tend to say goodbye first
> (or at least say something I know will make someone leave before
> they tell me they want to...it's always obvious.) I plan the return
> trip before I plan my departure. There are enough natural endings
> that I never need too manufacture any.
Hmmm... I'd have interpreted this as a method of neutering the endings
rather than revelling in them.
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illegal instruction. No worries, mate.'
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LadyAttercop
I have a fondness for little critters that seem to make most people
shriek and run to the other side of the room: snakes, frogs, toads,
lizards, rats, mice, spiders, bats, the list goes on.
I also have no problems with needles or blood, provided the blood is
my own. I have 8 holes in my head I wasn't born with, plans to get
three or so more, want to add a large back piece to my tattoo
collection, and donate blood whenever I get the change.
Autopsies and forensic shows fascinate me. I'm not sure if that
constitutes a fear or not, but most people get squeamish or groan when
I start discussing these topics. Of course, it might be because I
seem to have an uncanny knack for turning the conversation to the
"gross" when there's food on the table. I swear I don't plan it.
I enjoy performing and public speaking, and am more at ease in front
of a room full of strangers than I am speaking to a person one on one
that I just met. I also enjoy getting critiques and criticism on my
creative work, whether it's something I've written or drawn. Along
the same lines, I love a good debate that really makes me reexamine my
opinions on a subject.
moonglow minnow
Physical pain. Rats. Being noticeably "different". Storms. Large dogs.
New foods. New experiences. Solitude. Education.
Maeve >^..^<
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moonglow minnow
> Physical pain. Rats. Being noticeably "different". Storms. Large dogs.
> New foods. New experiences. Solitude. Education.
And Spiders. I forgot spiders. The little jumping spiders are so
adorable with their huge eyes looking up at you.
My husband is terrified of them, so no terrarium full of jumping spiders
for me. :(
Fnord Prefect Fnord
> Dag wrote:
>> OK so we had the fear/phobia question, now let's flip it around. What
>> situation, thing or concept that make many people uncomfortable or
>> scared don't you fear. I don't mean simply tolerate, but that you
>> actively seek out and enjoy.
>
> Physical pain.
How ould I forget that>
Rats.
OOH! cute little nosetwitchy rattees!
madmiah
>
> I enjoy performing and public speaking, and am more at ease in front
> of a room full of strangers than I am speaking to a person one on one
> that I just met.
Oddly I am the exact same way about this. I sometimes look like I am
not social at a party because it is a more one on one experience and I
always have a harder time with that than I do standing up in front of
a class of strangers and talking.
J
TenshiKurai9
Apparently the willingness to travel, especially internationally but
even locally, to meet you various people I've met online in person.
Actually, even an overnight trip to New York from Boston, regardless of
whether anyone was waiting for me or not, would freak some out.
Oh. Then there's people who can't conceive of wandering through the
hood on public transit during the day alone versus me who doesn't do it
often, but I should see if that BBQ take-away place still exists in Dudley
Station, Roxbury, Boston, USA.
-TK9, some are afraid of urban. period.
moonglow minnow
> Rats.
>
> OOH! cute little nosetwitchy rattees!
I have four of them here. They love pulling at jewelry and shiny things. :)
One of them needs surgery now, though, and that goes back into the
category of 'things that scare me'...
dbvictoria
I'm another who actually likes speaking in front of large groups of
people. I toyed with the idea of joining Toastmasters, but I have
enough trouble finding the time to engage in my current pursuits
without adding in something like this.
Endymion
<moonglowmin...@charter.net.invalid> wrote:
> Physical pain.
Any pain, or just certain types and levels?
I hope you don't mind my asking, but I seem to remember you expressing
some level of interest in pain as sexual pleasure. Doesn't that entail
at least some degree of fear? Pain as sex play is too complex to be
described in terms of one sensation, but to me the most crucial part
of the experience isn't the blow, or the sting after the blow, but the
anticipation of the next, knowing how much the last one hurt and how
much more the next one is likely to on one's now-tenderized flesh.
That anticipation is exhilarating in a way no anticipation of simple
pleasure, however intense, can be, and it seems to me the source of
that feeling is fear.
Likewise with one of my favorites, a fairly common one: driving like a
maniac on deserted country roads, especially at night. It's not that I
don't fear crashing, I *do* fear it, that's the point. If I'm not
afraid that just means I need to go faster. The point of maximum
pleasure is where the fear exactly balances my confidence in my
driving ability and knowledge of the road and road conditions
(including the possibility of other cars and of wildlife in the road).
It's not that I don't fear it, I *do* fear it, that's why I seek it
out. And the point isn't the fear of the experiences I'll have (or
won't have) if I crash, it's at the pure physical level.
(Of course, one's life expectancy with such a hobby is much greater
with the judgment, the ability to compare risk and skill and
knowledge, of a forty-year-old than that of a teenager, even with the
latter's advantages in eyesight and reflexes.)
So it seems to me that Dag's question really touches on two classes of
experiences: ones that we fear, but seek out anyway because the
pleasure we derive from them is greater than the pain - my examples
above - and those we enjoy and don't fear at all. Also like many here,
snakes go in that category for me, they don't even make me slightly
nervous once I'm sure they're not venomous (which is a pretty easy
determination to make in the wild in eastern North America) and I have
more of a healthy respect than a visceral fear of the ones that are.
Likewise there are things we fear but for which we have so much morbid
fascination that we seek them out, trying to get as close as we can to
the point of no return while being careful not to cross it. Fear of
heights is like that for many people.
Some pain is like that for me. I don't fear pain that I've been
through before, even if it's intensely unpleasant, but I fear the
potential for greater pain than I've experienced. The idea of burning
to death (not dying in a fire of smoke inhalation, I mean burning,
like from napalm), for instance, terrifies me. So does the idea of
torture by someone who really knows what they're doing. I have a
morbid fascination with that sort of thing, more from the POV of the
victim than the torturer, which I'm sure more people share here than
in the general public. But I strongly desire to avoid actually
experiencing it.
- Endymion
TenshiKurai9
> large dogs.
I take dogs on an individual basis. The English Mastiff I met is a
sweet dear, but I've had enough negative experiences with dogs to be
wary in general.
-TK9
TenshiKurai9
> Figure I'll add mine. I love walking alone through crowded streets and
> urban spaces. I love the feeling of walking down a street feeling like
> I'm surrounded by the entire city. Surrounded by the cacophony of
> countless other people. Forging upstream through a teeming mass of
> abstract bodies.
Seconded.
> On the other hand if I'm in the mountains I get annoyed if I walk past
> more than two groups of people in a day or am forced to camp within line
> of site of another tent.
I've only camped twiced in my life so no comparisions to my own
experiences here.
-TK9
TenshiKurai9
> Physical pain. Rats. Being noticeably "different". Storms. Large dogs.
> New foods. New experiences. Solitude. Education.
Boyfriend's dad does not get pet rats at all and can never understand
why his son has ever had one, let alone many. Wouldn't let Kush into
the house on the day his son got evicted. Unfortunately she was let go
so I presume she's deceased by now.
-TK9, not happy with the procrastination of bf that explains why she
wasn't already given away.
TenshiKurai9
> Big Dogs - dobermans are sweet, rottweilers are giant puppies
> if treated well, pit bulls are astoundingly calm, and St Bernards
> and Newfoundlands are big, slobbery teddybears.
The individual excetions to my general wariness to dogs have included
man a Pit Bull.
> The Economy Collapsing/Poverty
I've been ignoring the news on the collapse.
> Rape/Murder/Terrorists/Death by Fat or Cancer/etc - I'm not
> afraid of anything the news convinces people they should be afraid of.
> Statistically speaking, the chances of any of that stuff happening
> to me are pretty small.
Which is why I don't get upset about it either.
Realistically speaking, if they do happen,
> there's going to be sweet fuck all I can do to prevent it.
This reminds me, I should take a basic self-defense class.
I'm not
> saying that I'm going to walk naked through dangerous neighborhoods
> with a FREE MEAT sign on my ass, but I'm not nervous in airport security
> suspiciously eyeballing brown skinned people either. I've got more
> important and interesting things on my mind.
I'll find it annoyingly paranoid if they're just using skin color and
wonder what's going-on that they're not paying attention to since
they're too distracted by skin color.
-TK9, has heard of black kids distracting racial profiling store owners
by existing while the white kid steals.
TenshiKurai9
> New foods. New experiences. Solitude. Education.
A co-worker of mine is unable to be alone for long without feeling
panic.
If you were in Hong Kong, would you try a rat dish?
-TK9, yes, before you ask me back.
Fnord Prefect Fnord
> If you were in Hong Kong, would you try a rat dish?
>
I would think most humans would still be hungry after eating a serving of
anythign form a rat's dish.
Edward Scissorhands
> OK so we had the fear/phobia question, now let's flip it around.
> What situation, thing or concept that make many people uncomfortable or
> scared don't you fear. I don't mean simply tolerate, but that you
> actively seek out and enjoy.
My driving seems to make people scared. I quite enjoy it. However, I
don't feel scared doing it, I don't feel... close to death. It's not
like siani's attitude to it, I just happen to travel rather quickly
sometimes.
I suspect the real answer is "Holocaust jokes" and "being politically
incorrect". That's around netgoths, though, and they Get It; I'd shy
away from making the same jokes near strangers for fear of getting
lynched ;)
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Jennie Kermode
> I hope you don't mind my asking, but I seem to remember you expressing
> some level of interest in pain as sexual pleasure. Doesn't that entail
> at least some degree of fear?
I was curious about this for the same reason. I had considered
putting 'pain' down as one of my answers but decided it was too complex
a thing. There are so many different kinds of pain, so many different
contexts, and so many different ways to experience them.
> That anticipation is exhilarating in a way no anticipation of simple
> pleasure, however intense, can be, and it seems to me the source of
> that feeling is fear.
Absolutely. That's a lot of how it works for me - in some
circumstances it's the whole thing. I have friends who say they don't
understand it, yet who routinely scare themselves reading ghost stories
or watching horror movies whilst curcled up close to their loved ones,
which I reckon is a similar thing. For them the exhilaratory response
may not be sexual but the fact remains that they get a thrill from their
fear.
Otoh, there are ways in which pain itself can be pleasurable
to me. When I was on hideous feminising hormones and had difficulty
getting an erection (the only time in my life, so quite a shock), a
certain degree of pain, in the right context, was the only thing that
would reliably do it. That was a pure sensation thing. Which is the
opposite of how it's supposed to go, I think - genitals are supposed to
shrivel up in that situation, for safety's sake. I guess I'm just wired
wierd.
> Likewise with one of my favorites, a fairly common one: driving like a
> maniac on deserted country roads, especially at night. It's not that I
> don't fear crashing, I *do* fear it, that's the point.
I can relate to that. There are certain types of situation
which I'm careful to avoid for just that reason.
> Likewise there are things we fear but for which we have so much morbid
> fascination that we seek them out, trying to get as close as we can to
> the point of no return while being careful not to cross it. Fear of
> heights is like that for many people.
When my cat is frightened her first response is to run away,
but then she'll stop at a safe distance and watch whatever has scared
her in fascination. I think humans often have equivalent reactions.
> Some pain is like that for me. I don't fear pain that I've been
> through before, even if it's intensely unpleasant, but I fear the
> potential for greater pain than I've experienced.
I used to fear that. Then I got a kidney infection which
caused more and more acute pain until I passed out. Now, although I
really, _really_ want to avoid pain like that, I'm not frightened of it
in the same way at all. I know that psychologically I can survive
whatever doesn't physically relieve me of the burden of consciousness.
Fnord Prefect Fnord
I guess I'm just wired
> wierd.
OOOH! anagrams!
Siobhan
Kermode"@triffid.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I used to fear that. Then I got a kidney infection which
>caused more and more acute pain until I passed out. Now, although I
>really, _really_ want to avoid pain like that, I'm not frightened of it
>in the same way at all. I know that psychologically I can survive
>whatever doesn't physically relieve me of the burden of consciousness.
Since I had the adenomyosis everything gets measured on scale of, "how
bad does it hurt compared to that". Nothing so far has come close.
Childbirth - which I was told the entire time I was growing up is the
worst pain a woman can experience - doesn't even make it *on* the
scale.
If we're talking just about things we aren't afraid of - as opposed to
things we are attracted to - I could add fights/getting beat
up/getting raped. Having been through all those experiences I can now
say that I know that I will survive them. I wouldn't volunteer to go
through them again but they aren't as terrifying as they were before I
lived through the experiences.
Also, car accidents. I've walked away from so many I'm positively
blase about them.
Siobhan
`una
> On 2008-10-02, `una wrote:
>
> > Rape/Murder/Terrorists/Death by Fat or Cancer/etc *snip*
> > Realistically speaking, if they do happen,
> > there's going to be sweet fuck all I can do to prevent it.
>
> This reminds me, I should take a basic self-defense class.
Which reminds that I HAVE done that. Even though prevention may not
be possible, having some sense of what to do in an emergency dramatically
increases one's chances of surviving an emergency.
> > I'm not
> > saying that I'm going to walk naked through dangerous neighborhoods
> > with a FREE MEAT sign on my ass, but I'm not nervous in airport security
> > suspiciously eyeballing brown skinned people either. I've got more
> > important and interesting things on my mind.
>
> I'll find it annoyingly paranoid if they're just using skin color and
> wonder what's going-on that they're not paying attention to since
> they're too distracted by skin color.
That was specifically a reference to people I know who actually are
afraid of "middle eastern looking people" going through airport security
and sitting near them on the plane.
There are still many people in this country who are so afraid of
terrorists that they imagine every person with an olive complexion
might be plotting some sort of damage.
One of my fears is "stupid people" because people do far more
dangerous things out of ignorance than they do when they have
defeated ignorance. One of the reasons that self-defense training works
is that it gives people the opportunity to make an informed choice
in an emergency rather than following the first panic-induced reaction,
which would most likely make things worse. First Aid training works
on the same principle. The more you know, the better the choices you
can make.
The American media's tendency towards fear-mongering feeds off of
ignorance and encourages ignorant patterns of thought and behavior.
I think it's gone beyond distasteful straight into dangerous.
I think avoiding media is the best anti-fear there is.
`una - only scared when I have faulty, incomplete, or no information
at all about a thing.
moonglow minnow
> On Oct 2, 9:01 pm, moonglow minnow
> <moonglowmin...@charter.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Physical pain.
>
> Any pain, or just certain types and levels?
Certain types and levels. I don't enjoy pain that keeps me from
functioning as I'd like to. I don't enjoy dull aches or menstrual cramps
or visceral pain in general. What I enjoy seems to mostly be confined to
sharp stinging pain which fades quickly, actually.
> I hope you don't mind my asking, but I seem to remember you expressing
> some level of interest in pain as sexual pleasure. Doesn't that entail
> at least some degree of fear? Pain as sex play is too complex to be
> described in terms of one sensation, but to me the most crucial part
> of the experience isn't the blow, or the sting after the blow, but the
> anticipation of the next, knowing how much the last one hurt and how
> much more the next one is likely to on one's now-tenderized flesh.
> That anticipation is exhilarating in a way no anticipation of simple
> pleasure, however intense, can be, and it seems to me the source of
> that feeling is fear.
It's very complex, but I think for me much of the source of that feeling
is related to the endorphin rush. The more it hurts, the more happy
chemicals get released in my brain. My brain tends to respond to fear by
freezing up in panic or making me physically ill. I don't think I'd be
able to involve things I actually fear in sex play with my brain
reacting that way.
moonglow minnow
> On 2008-10-03, moonglow minnow <moonglo...@charter.net.invalid> wrote:
>> Physical pain. Rats. Being noticeably "different". Storms. Large dogs.
>> New foods. New experiences. Solitude. Education.
>
> A co-worker of mine is unable to be alone for long without feeling
> panic.
I'm unable to be in a crowd for long without feeling panic. It's
fortunate that the human body can only stay in a panicked state for so
long...
> If you were in Hong Kong, would you try a rat dish?
I have great difficulty eating animals that I've mentally categorized as
'pet'. I don't think I'd eat pork even if my stomach would tolerate
it, and I'd have great difficulty eating horse as well. Rabbit, though
I'm sure it's tasty, is right out.
Maeve >^..^< traumatized by pig screams...
Jennie Kermode
> Rabbit, though I'm sure it's tasty, is right out.
Rabbit has a very strong taste (probably because rabbits are
such active animals). It's good meat but lots of people don't actually
like the flavour.
Rob
> And Spiders. I forgot spiders. The little jumping spiders are so
> adorable with their huge eyes looking up at you.
> My husband is terrified of them, so no terrarium full of jumping spiders
> for me. :(
I’m quite fond of jumping spiders, even though I don’t like spiders as
a rule. Somehow I don’t really think of them as proper spiders. It
probably helps that they’re so tiny, but I think it’s also because
their behaviour is so different. I often get the impression that
they’re as curious about me as I am about them. Apparently they are
smarter than the average bug, according to some:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1640513/posts
Rob
Peter H. Coffin
> On 2008-10-12, moonglow minnow <moonglo...@charter.net.invalid> wrote:
>> Rabbit, though I'm sure it's tasty, is right out.
>
> Rabbit has a very strong taste (probably because rabbits are
> such active animals). It's good meat but lots of people don't actually
> like the flavour.
Wild rabbits have a strong taste. Farmed rabbits are kind of like
chickens that are all white meat and have heavy bones.
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of Chaos" and "The Thing With Three Souls."
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TenshiKurai9
And I enjoy public
> speaking, love talking to people who're smarter oo better educated than
> I am, and love being underwater.
The possible pain of water in my eyes or up my nose stops me from being
able to enjoy being underwater.
How often do you find smarter oo better educated people to talk with?
-TK9
whisky-dave
"Peter H. Coffin" <hel...@ninehells.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:51:08 +0100, Jennie Kermode wrote:
>> On 2008-10-12, moonglow minnow <moonglo...@charter.net.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> Rabbit, though I'm sure it's tasty, is right out.
>>
>> Rabbit has a very strong taste (probably because rabbits are
>> such active animals). It's good meat but lots of people don't actually
>> like the flavour.
>
> Wild rabbits have a strong taste. Farmed rabbits are kind of like
> chickens that are all white meat and have heavy bones.
I was told (by a French girl) that you can only eat wild rabbits[1], perhaps
the true story was that you should only eat wild rabbits becauseof the
better taste.
I'd have thought with a splodge of ketchup, baked beans and gravy they'd be
OK ;-)
[1] similar thing with snails common garden ones can't be eaten.
But I'd have more chance catching a wild snail than a wild rabbit.
whisky-dave
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And how often are they underwater :)
Joseph Brenner
Dag <dwastberg@g_REMOVE_mail.com> writes:
> OK so we had the fear/phobia question, now let's flip it around.
> What situation, thing or concept that make many people
> uncomfortable or scared don't you fear. I don't mean simply
> tolerate, but that you actively seek out and enjoy.
(1) I've always enjoyed striding confidentally across yellow radiation
warning lines, but haven't had much opportunity of late.
(2) Then there's climbing. For a number of years I was being good
about only doing technical climbing using safety equipment, but lately
I find I can't resist doing things like walking around on the
over-head crane rails at Cellspace.
(3) Donuts.