Another Gothic Poll
Osiris
On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
> A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
> that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
> international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
> friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
> in something different? Any science majors?
Architecture and Computer Science.
But Graphic Design was an option, if it's any consolation.
"If you'll excuse me... I must seek knowledge and its bastard son, truth."
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than to lie down and sleep with it.
medea
Once,, Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
> Are there others that majored
> in something different?
latin. with a women's (or gender) studies concentration.
-medea
Tamara N Al-Hussaini
A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
in something different? Any science majors?
Tamara
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Thus saith Tamara N Al-Hussaini the Unworthy, in the Year of Our Lord Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:50:03 -0500 :
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> A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
> that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
> international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
> friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
> in something different? Any science majors?
Well, i'm an art major myself, but know of one local goth who is a
biochemistry major (or something like that).
Hardrock
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Breton M Bienvenue
Greetings,
Tamara N Al-Hussaini (s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu) wrote:
: A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
: majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
: that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
: international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
: friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
: in something different? Any science majors?
Psychology and computer science, with lots of linguistics courses thrown in
as well. But...I _am_ a science major thankyouverymuch. Psychology is (or
at least can be) a science.
Sorry, just a little rant I have to make every now and then when people
lump all of psychology in with Freud or Jung and psychoanalysis...
-Breton (I'm not touchy on the subject!) Bienvenue
Lisa Hoff
Tamara N Al-Hussaini <s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> writes:
>A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
>majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
>that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
>international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
>friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
>in something different? Any science majors?
>Tamara
Double major, biochemistry/microbiology. Don't use either, as I now
work with computers.
-Wildfire
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Lovecraft
> : majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
> : that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
> : international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
> : friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
> : in something different? Any science majors?
processing. I just switched to Marine biology...
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Gerhard S Hellemann
Breton M Bienvenue (b...@cs.buffalo.edu) wrote:
>Greetings,
> Psychology and computer science, with lots of linguistics courses thrown in
> as well. But...I _am_ a science major thankyouverymuch. Psychology is (or
> at least can be) a science.
> Sorry, just a little rant I have to make every now and then when people
> lump all of psychology in with Freud or Jung and psychoanalysis...
> -Breton (I'm not touchy on the subject!) Bienvenue
Well, thats interesting. I am studying something that would amount to a
Major in Statistics, and a Minor in Psychology (Im at the ISU only for
an exchange year, so don't be confused. I normally study in Dortmund.)
and i wouldn t call psychology one of the hard sciences. Its a
"Geisteswissenschaft", like Math or English.
Gerhard
(Who really enjoyed it when social-constructivist and biologist and
behaviourist and psychoanalytically trained profs tried to kill
each others holy cows, especially when they started quoting
contradictory articles and statistics.)
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Mara collins
: >A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
: >majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
: >that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
: >international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
: >friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
: >Tamara
Actually, I major in archaeology (at the only true arch dept. in the
country from what I understand), minor in linguistics, and I'm premed, so I
suppose I qualify as being something different.
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Breton M Bienvenue
Breton M Bienvenue (b...@cs.buffalo.edu) wrote:
[snicker-snack, my statement that psych can be a science was cut]
Gerhard S Hellemann (hell...@iastate.edu) wrote:
: Well, thats interesting. I am studying something that would amount to a
: Major in Statistics, and a Minor in Psychology (Im at the ISU only for
: an exchange year, so don't be confused. I normally study in Dortmund.)
: and i wouldn t call psychology one of the hard sciences. Its a
: "Geisteswissenschaft", like Math or English.
I think the problem here is that there are two basic branches of
experimental psychology (along with the clinical stuff etc.)
The most prevalent one looks at behavior and publishes research
about things like how music affects ones mood and how your diet
can affect your personality. This is in my view not a hard science.
The other branch of experimental psychology includes biopsych, cognitive
psych, psycholinguistics, perception studies etc. This branch tries to
see how the mind functions, what conciousness is, how we pwecieve
understand and use language, how we hear, how our memory works etc. This
is one of the hard sciences IMHO.
Unfortunately most people don't know about or don't think about this
part of psych when they think about psych so I get lmped in with the
social psych people when I mention psychology, which I am not!
Incidentally, can you give me a definition of "Geisteswissenschaft", I'm
having trouble creating a category that includes both Math and English and
excludes "hard sciences" (like physics and chem I'm assuming).
: Gerhard
: (Who really enjoyed it when social-constructivist and biologist and
: behaviourist and psychoanalytically trained profs tried to kill
: each others holy cows, especially when they started quoting
: contradictory articles and statistics.)
Yet more proof in my battle to prove that science is based on faith in
unprovable foundations just like any other religion...
-Breton (still dressed like its haloween) Bienvenue
DEADpan
Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
> Are there others that majored in something different? Any science
> majors?
Sociology and Communications. That qualifies me to do absolutely
nothing...;>
DEADpan
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medea wrote:
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> Once,, Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
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> > Are there others that majored
> > in something different?
Nope.
Worked my ex-wife through school. And was a music major.
Then a comp. lit major.
Then I realized my education was impairing rather than
enhancing my ability to think for myself, so I got off the train.
Plus, it takes up too much time. And I dont want any of the rewards
that our higher education system promises...so
Now, I'm as irrelevant as possible.
I had a cab license in Wash state, and will probably do that
when I get home... presuming that Seattle never passed that stupid
bow-tie ordinance...
And continue my never ending efforts at getting widely published...
Henry Miller wasnt published till he was like 40.
I think he had a good idea. Live off the money off affluent bankers
wives.
Albatross
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In article <jfron-ya02308000...@128.174.5.49>,
jf...@students.uiuc.edu (nightshade) writes:
>> in something different? Any science majors?
>engineering. twenty-freaking-four hours a day.
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Matthew M Mckeon
Osiris <t-do...@staff.uiuc.edu> writes:
> On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
>
> > A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> > majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
> > that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
> > international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
> > friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
> > in something different? Any science majors?
>
> Architecture and Computer Science.
>
woo-hoo!! a.g.cs-doublers!
I'm majoring in Computer Science and Creative Writing, with
a (possible) minor in Professional Writing as well.
Yes, I'm going fucking nuts.
No, I have no idea how to combine the two after college.
Other than writing bad-yet-technically-accurate cyberpunk,
that is.
In all probability, I'll just snag a job at some
tragically hip company (Netscape! <gryn>), sell my stock
option when they incorporate, become a multimillionaire,
and bail before the company goes under. I'll find somebody
back in Pittsboig who's willing to run a club and has more
than two brain cells, then spit in the face of God by
finally opening **a decent goth/industrial club**
in this rust stain of a city.
Well, I can dream. <sigh>
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gabriella vervaine
In article <Pine.A32.3.95.961031...@titan.vcu.edu>,
Tamara N Al-Hussaini <s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> wrote:
> A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
> that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
> international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
> friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
> in something different? Any science majors?
I plan on majoring in Communications and minoring in Sociology; but that
isn't until next year.
~gabriella vervaine
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Just to re-iterate..
I'm an Anthropology major, ex-biology. I originally had an interest in
botany, but was unable to actually major in botany. I switched to Anth.
last december (of my junior year) and am currently very happy with it,
although the reserve readings for my Theory of ANth. class frequently make
my head hurt with all the confusion of ideas going around in my head.
Senior year is so stressful..!
-kat
In article <327A64...@primenet.com>, Lovecraft <bk...@primenet.com> wrote:
> > For the last year I've been studying 3-D Animation, VR, and digital image
> processing. I just switched to Marine biology...
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> I was twelve hours away from a degree in broadcast journalism when I said
> "Fuck this" & dropped out in disgust for a few years until I could figure
> out what I wanted to do with my life. Now I'm working towards degrees in
> computer science and mathematics, with some independent study in network
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That's about what I did, though I wasn't quite THAT close....
But I ended up going into Criminal Justice. How very Un-Goth. Ug. But it
wasn't nearly as bad as the acadmey (talk about SUCKING- Army Basic was
nicer) Still, I like the term "peace officer"
Gruamach
Blau Zahl
>> in something different? Any science majors?
>engineering. twenty-freaking-four hours a day.
<*Grin*>
Physics.
Any neat things around Washington U in St. Louis next weekend?
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> > Psychology and computer science, with lots of linguistics courses thrown in
> > as well. But...I _am_ a science major thankyouverymuch. Psychology is (or
> > at least can be) a science.
> > Sorry, just a little rant I have to make every now and then when people
> > lump all of psychology in with Freud or Jung and psychoanalysis...
>
> > -Breton (I'm not touchy on the subject!) Bienvenue
>
> Major in Statistics, and a Minor in Psychology (Im at the ISU only
i originally read "major in satanics"
for
> an exchange year, so don't be confused. I normally study in Dortmund.)
> and i wouldn t call psychology one of the hard sciences. Its a
> "Geisteswissenschaft", like Math or English.
>
> Gerhard
> (Who really enjoyed it when social-constructivist and biologist and
> behaviourist and psychoanalytically trained profs tried to kill
> each others holy cows, especially when they started quoting
> contradictory articles and statistics.)
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On 1 Nov 1996 15:05:27 GMT, b...@cs.buffalo.edu (Breton M Bienvenue) did
cunningly address to alt.gothic..
:as well. But...I _am_ a science major thankyouverymuch. Psychology is
:(or at least can be) a science.
:Sorry, just a little rant I have to make every now and then when people
:lump all of psychology in with Freud or Jung and psychoanalysis...
Psychiatry is a science. Psychology is a branch of social inquiry/
humanities. One requires the use of drugs which you can test, validate,
invalidate. The other is a wishy/washy mixture of communication and
observation.
You may hate Psychology not being considered a "science," but, until you
can show me -any- means of simple theory Popperian Falsificationism at
work, you're out of luck.
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I'm a history major...
until about a week ago I was a double major in that and anthropology.
Eileen
On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
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> A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
> that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
> international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
> friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
> in something different? Any science majors?
>
> Tamara
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HES Duffy
: Psychology and computer science, with lots of linguistics courses thrown in
: as well. But...I _am_ a science major thankyouverymuch. Psychology is (or
: at least can be) a science.
: Sorry, just a little rant I have to make every now and then when people
: lump all of psychology in with Freud or Jung and psychoanalysis...
Yeah, been there done that;
"So, what do you do?"
"Psychology."
"Yeah? Well, I had this really weird dream, maybe you can tell me what it
means..."
"It means you're stupid. Go away."
I have a degree in Psychology (I chose to take a BA, but I could have had
a BSc; We like to consider ourselves scientists, reall we do...) and I'm
now studying for an MSc in computer things. I wouldn't say psychology is a
particularly "goth" subject, unless doing way too much statistics is
goth...
: -Breton (I'm not touchy on the subject!) Bienvenue
No, no, nor me neither... But it allows you to curse "Bloody arts
students" when one of them is being annoying, and to rail against "Bloody
hard scientists" when they're getting on your nerves. *grin*
Darkstar
She can't be convicted, she's earned her degree
richard rudolf
>Tamara
At the time I was into Liberation Theology and the Social Gospel
so I became a religious studies major .I went to Trinity College,
University Of Illionis,and the Chiciago Lutheran School of Theology.
They all prepared me well for a life ill-spent.
Right now I am in the middle of opening a coffee house so you can
see that a liberal arts degrees can open up a lot of doors
professionally :-)
regards,
rudolf.
"to the glory of man
by man
who created god
therefore god does not exist
but man's creation does."
LordDrakon
In article <327BA1...@sonoma.edu>, DEADpan <fill...@sonoma.edu>
writes:
>Sociology and Communications. That qualifies me to do absolutely
>nothing...;>
Yes, but at least you're qualified. Some of us do absolutely nothing as
amateurs.
Oh, I flunked out of college, in Electrical Engineering. At MIT, no less.
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Lord Drakon (LordD...@aol.com)
"If you're going to fail, fail at something magnificent."
HES Duffy
-Synic- (sy...@omen.com.au) wrote:
: Psychiatry is a science. Psychology is a branch of social inquiry/
: humanities. One requires the use of drugs which you can test, validate,
: invalidate. The other is a wishy/washy mixture of communication and
: observation.
Ooh, you got a fight on your hands, bruthah!! *grin*
Yes, there's a certain
amount of social observation involved, but wishy-washy? Well, what the
hell does that mean?
: You may hate Psychology not being considered a "science," but, until you
: can show me -any- means of simple theory Popperian Falsificationism at
: work, you're out of luck.
Tell me what a Popperian thingy is, and I'll see if I have one somewhere
around here...
In the meantime, psychology involves a whole lot of Statistics, a fair bit
of basic physics, some biology, a bit of chemistry, and some maths. No
theory is considered to be valid unless it's been tested and tested and
then tested some more, and even then, it's often regarded with scepticism.
It's not an _exact_ science, but then nor is Biology; Living organisms are
never terribly exact, but science is involved.
And by the way, Psychiatry may be more accepted as a science, but it's
really no more exact than psychology; you want horror stories, I'll give
you horror stories.
Darkstar
Call in the Freud Squad!
mAlice
In article <Pine.A32.3.95.961031...@titan.vcu.edu>, <deletia>
>international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
>friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
>in something different? Any science majors?
>
Got my DVM in '91 (that's vet medicine) and hated it....now back in
school for a PhD in Microbiology....so I guess you could say I'm a
science goth...
mAlice
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Breton M Bienvenue
-Synic- (sy...@omen.com.au) wrote:
: On 1 Nov 1996 15:05:27 GMT, b...@cs.buffalo.edu (Breton M Bienvenue) did
: cunningly address to alt.gothic..
: :as well. But...I _am_ a science major thankyouverymuch. Psychology is
: :(or at least can be) a science.
: :Sorry, just a little rant I have to make every now and then when people
: :lump all of psychology in with Freud or Jung and psychoanalysis...
: Psychiatry is a science. Psychology is a branch of social inquiry/
: humanities. One requires the use of drugs which you can test, validate,
: invalidate. The other is a wishy/washy mixture of communication and
: observation.
As I said in another post, there are psychologists who don't give a rat's
ass about social inquiry (I'm one of them). But in their defence...
Psychiatry is largly an applicable science, it deals with helping people
who have problems and what-not through the use of drugs (I'll avoid
prozac bashing as the argument has been done in this NG before).
Psychology (social psych) is much more research oriented. It is an attempt
to research the characteristics of human behavior and is falsifiable,
although, since (as I mentioned earlier) I don't give a rat's ass about social
psych I really don't have any references to this effect.
: You may hate Psychology not being considered a "science," but, until you
: can show me -any- means of simple theory Popperian Falsificationism at
: work, you're out of luck.
hmm...don't quite know what popperian falsification is?
I can show you evidence of falsifiable research in psychology though...
Look through any issue of Memory and Cognition, Brain and Language,
Cognitive Science...
A quick example though...I'm interested in how people understand language.
I make a theory about how we extract meaning from a discourse.
I model this theory using a neural network simulator.
I make a prediction about how this model would act if damaged in a
particular way.
I test it with the model.
I look for aphasics (people with brain damage affecting language
processing) with the same type of damage.
I compare my theoretical output (the neural net simulation) to the actual
output (the aphasic patient).
If it matches the theory has some validity, if it doesn't, the theory has
been falsified, back to the drawing board (Matlab in my case).
Very simplified, but I hope it makes a point.
-Breton (off to the psych lab) Bienvenue
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On 2 Nov 1996, Andrea K. Kowalski wrote:
> Tamara N Al-Hussaini <s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> writes:
>
>
> >A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> >majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
> >that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
> >international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
> >friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
> >in something different? Any science majors?
>
> >Tamara
>
>
> Gee, I wonder who that ultra cool Mass Comm person could be???
>
> The Dominatrix Extraordinairre, who is finally graduating in
> December!!!
>
> That is a hard question to answer!!!! I'm still trying to narrow the
people down...(sarcasm-thanks for that idea!) There's such a plethora of
> biology and mass communication majors, i guess we don't stand out
anymore, since there are 5 million responses to this (sarcasm).
Osiris
On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, DEADpan wrote:
> Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
> > Are there others that majored in something different? Any science
> > majors?
> Sociology and Communications. That qualifies me to do absolutely
> nothing...;>
That reminds me of someone I know:
"My major is media studies and my minor is sociology, which means I watch
a lot of TV and then bitch about how society is going to hell because
everyone watches too much television." -Katie Kosfeld
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In article <55gtrp$u...@titan.vcu.edu>,
mac...@titan.vcu.edu (Andrea K. Kowalski) wrote:
>Tamara N Al-Hussaini <s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> writes:
>
>
>>A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
>>majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3
people
>>that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
>>international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology,
and my
majored
>>in something different? Any science majors?!
Just an observation, but I haven't noticed many Modern Language-type
Goths here. Am I the only one?
Esther, with a degree in French and Spanish, and currently doing a
postgrad course in Translation
Esther (E.R.P...@mod-Lang.salford.ac.uk)
"...tomorrow, remember yesterday."
TARogue
Long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Tamara N Al-Hussaini
<s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> spat out:
:
:A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
:majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
:that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
:international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
:friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
:in something different? Any science majors?
:
Accounting.
TARogue
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Eternal400
I came close to going to med school to become a neurosurgeon, but then i
came to my senses- Now i'm a graphic designer for a major ad agency. I
must admit that i still often think of how cool it would have been to have
all of someones thought and dreams at my mercy
kat in the hat
In article <55e873$n...@news.bu.edu>, mara...@bu.edu (Mara collins) wrote:
> : >A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> : >majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
> : >that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
> : >international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
> : >friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
> : >in something different? Any science majors?
>
> : >Tamara
> Actually, I major in archaeology (at the only true arch dept. in the
> country from what I understand), minor in linguistics, and I'm premed, so I
> suppose I qualify as being something different.
> --
> Mara
Bryn Mawr definitely has a viable arky dept.. and there is a site for the
Bryn Mawr Classical Journal, put out by a Classics/Greek prof here..
better check your facts! but the line kind of blurs between archaeology
anf physical anthropology.. they have a lot of the same methods, if different
emphasis on interpretation of the data. But it is true that there are very
few colleges or universities with a complete archaeology department, separate
from other departments. And with their own major..
-kat
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DEADpan
Osiris wrote:
> That reminds me of someone I know:
> "My major is media studies and my minor is sociology, which means I
> watch a lot of TV and then bitch about how society is going to hell
> because everyone watches too much television." -Katie Kosfeld
YEAH, exactly the same except I read a bunch of newspapers and =
magazines and bitch about how the world is going to shit because =
people watch too much TV...
DEADpan
BTW- I do happen to be one of the lucky social science majors who =
happens to have a job related to my studies... Interested???
http://censored.sonoma.edu/ProjectCensored/
I'm the one affectionately refered to as Project Censored Net Geek.
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Now Playing: Le=E6ther Strip - Double or Nothing
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Tamara N Al-Hussaini (s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu) wrote:
: A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
: majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
: that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
: international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
: friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
: in something different? Any science majors?
I'm currently plodding through a masters in electrical engineering
(you can't spell geek without the ee), though to date I've been
mistaken for most other majors (by people who have known me for
a while even). To date my favorates have been art major, english major
and philosophy major.
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leave behind a well scarred corpse
so all will know that you have lived.
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Tamara N Al-Hussaini <s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> wrote in article
<Pine.A32.3.95.961031...@titan.vcu.edu>...
>
> A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art.
>(snip)
> Are there others that majored in something different? Any science majors?
>
> Tamara
Greetings
I suppose adding to this poll is as good a way as any of introducing
myself to this group.
I majored in Communications at Penn State University. Specifically,
my degree is called "Broadcast/Cable". I had the pleasure of doing a
goth/industrial show on the student station, WKPS-FM.
My second bachelors ( I earned two simultaneoulsly) is in Medieval
Studies. Three of my 12 courses
taken for this degree were art history, two were literature courses.
I would love to be a DJ again, but my big dream is to make
documentaries (especially on art or history) and music videos. I am
currently living outside of Pittsburgh and looking for work in my field
(just graduated last May).
The subjects I took for my degree were about one-third video and audio
production, one third business, and one-third communications theory. Your
call if video production is an art, if script writing has anything to do
with English, and if communications theory qualifies as part of psychology.
Jeff Foehringer "The only way to eliminate a
temptation
jjf...@ccia.com is to give in to it."
Dean Philip Rogers
>> A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
>> that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
>> international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
>> in something different? Any science majors?
At the moment im doing 1st year Computer Science, i might be changing to a double degree next year (comp sci/ Physics), and I'd like to do elec enginerring part time when i finish this degree.... so im a bit different to most goth's you know.... but then again I dont really consider myself a full goth, im only part goth.
Celine
>> A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
>> majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art.
>> Are there others that majored in something different? Any science majors?
in our little group in albuquerque we have quite a few physics, comp
sci, and plain old madd sci majors, I am art and ed so I am your
typical goth
Stefan Spaenhoven
Tamara N Al-Hussaini (s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu) wrote:
: A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
: majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
: that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
: international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
: friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
: in something different? Any science majors?
Well, I'm mot really a goth-person myself, but I'm quite
interested in the Gothic 'livestyle'. Maybe because my
poetry (well, something that looks like it) is sometimes
pretty dark too.
Anyway, all this just to tell you that you can add
a (half-goth) civil engineer to your list...
Stef?
-?-
'I think I've reached that point
where giving up and going on
are both the same death end to me
are both the same old song'
The Cure - End
Dave
Eternal400 (etern...@aol.com) wrote:
: I came close to going to med school to become a neurosurgeon, but then i
: came to my senses- Now i'm a graphic designer for a major ad agency. I
: must admit that i still often think of how cool it would have been to have
: all of someones thought and dreams at my mercy
My BS in in Geography, with a minor in CS... I work as a programmer/analyst.
I hate my career, but it pays the bills pretty well
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david hansen
On 3 Nov 1996, HES Duffy wrote:
> Breton M Bienvenue (b...@cs.buffalo.edu) wrote:
> : Greetings,
> : Psychology and computer science, with lots of linguistics courses thrown in
> : as well. But...I _am_ a science major thankyouverymuch. Psychology is (or
> : at least can be) a science.
There is a guy in my class last year who is in the midst of what you have
done, and just to keep with the thread I'm a computer programmer (scary eh?).
> Yeah, been there done that;
> "So, what do you do?"
> "Psychology."
> "Yeah? Well, I had this really weird dream, maybe you can tell me what it
> means..."
> "It means you're stupid. Go away."
I have had someone analyse<sp?> me without asking, I don't care if he was
right it was really uncomfortable. Someone I thought of as a friend
stepping back and analysing me like that.
> I have a degree in Psychology (I chose to take a BA, but I could have had
> a BSc; We like to consider ourselves scientists, reall we do...) and I'm
> now studying for an MSc in computer things. I wouldn't say psychology is a
> particularly "goth" subject, unless doing way too much statistics is
> goth...
I'd like to go into psychology later, but that will probably be another
thing added to the list of things that I would like to do, but will never
get around to it.
> : -Breton (I'm not touchy on the subject!) Bienvenue
Farmguy
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In article <327e79ea...@news.mainstream.net>, talb...@mainstream.net (TARogue) writes:
>Long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Tamara N Al-Hussaini
><s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> spat out:
>
>:
>:majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
>:that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
>:international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
>:friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
>:in something different? Any science majors?
>
>Accounting.
>TARogue
>-----------------------------------------
>
>Knowledge isn't power, it is sorrow.
>http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/2427/
>"I was wrong. This changes everything." - Tool
Anthropology.
I get graded for writing about gothic culture
Overlord of Darkness
Tamara N Al-Hussaini (s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu) wrote:
: A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
: majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
: that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
: international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
: friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
: in something different? Any science majors?
Well... I'm a philosophy major... do you count metaphysics as a science?..:)
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: On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
: > A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
: > majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
: > that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
: > international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
: > friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
: > in something different? Any science majors?
Physics with a minor in neuropsychology.
Sadly I'm the only person who dosen't look like a stereotypical
physics major (white, flannels, t-shirt, levi's) all the bloody time.
And I thought all the strange people took physics...
Don't let them tell you differently, they're engineers with 10% more
creativity.
--
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Pope of the Church of the Invisible Pink Unicorn
http://www.physics.oberlin.edu/students/jweiner
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: >Tamara N Al-Hussaini <s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> wrote:
: >> in something different? Any science majors?
Double-major in French and Computer Science. Now I can talk sexily to my
computer. Sometimes it works. ;)
-C.
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>> Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
>> > Are there others that majored in something different? Any science
>> > majors?
how about biology then population ecology then special ed and now
disability studies
so i guess i was a science major ... if you want to label it as such ...
but then what are labels
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Gib mir wieder etwas schones
Zieh mich aus dem meer ...
Kannst du mich schreien horen
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I
>> Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
>> > Are there others that majored in something different? Any science
>> > majors?
how about biology then population ecology (mites) then special ed then
disability studies ... i guess you could label me a science at the start
... for whatever labels are worth
Inox
Tamara wrote:
>
> A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art.
> Are there others that majored in something different? Any science majors?
I'm currently in law school. My friend Dave (Dr. Yoshi) is
a bio major. You should see the looks he gets around campus:
6'7", 240#, painted leather w/ lots of chains & handcuffs.
Most of Hopkins has no idea what a goth is, and he's one hell
of an introduction when he comes jingling into lecture. At my
school it's pretty much the same as far as having any
knowledge of gothics, and I've been asked far too many times if
I'm in a band. So, if I could alter the thread a little, do
many of you out there go to school w/ a fair number of other
goths, or are you more or less stranded w/ the normals?
--Inox
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Little C wrote:
>
> Double-major in French and Computer Science. Now I can talk sexily to my
Yes, but does it grab your arm, start kissing it, and say "Cara Mia!"?
*gigglegrin*
StrangeGirl (reaching for her Charles Addams books)
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Little C (boy...@stu.beloit.edu) wrote:
: : >Tamara N Al-Hussaini <s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> wrote:
: : >> in something different? Any science majors?
: Double-major in French and Computer Science. Now I can talk sexily to my
: computer. Sometimes it works. ;)
[Whee, it's follow up to Carolyn day <g>]
Chemistry major, Information Systems minor (computers/linguistics stuff)
That means I can...uh...model kewl molecules on my computer? Blow computers
up? Never get a job in my major? :)
Laura
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shado...@aol.com
On Monday, Nov. 4, MLP...@news.salford.ac.uk (Esther Palmer) typed:
> Just an observation, but I haven't noticed many Modern-Language type
> Goths here. Am I the only one?
Well, count me in. I'm currently attempting degrees in German, Russian,
and Japanese.
- Shadowplay
John M. VerBurg
: Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
: > Are there others that majored in something different? Any science
: > majors?
I'm a grad student in Physical Chemistry. My research is trying to make
glass batteries for cars and microelectronic devices. I was working on my
doctorate, but this place corrodes my soul and I am leaving with my MS in
June, maybe to finish someplace else, like Northwestern or be a bartender
like the rest of my family.
I have seen a few chem-goth here. one was in Chapel Hill and the
other I think was at California-San Diego. Are you still here?
About psychology, I don't think it's an exact science, nothing really
is exact, but physicists were smart and covered their asses with the
uncertainty principle. So Psychology is kinda like statistical mechanics.
You can never know how a single particle (person) will behave when
perturbed, but you can give a probability of what responses may show up
and find the average response to a pertubation.
I guess you can also relate the uncertainty principle to the Hawthorne
effect, but in the latter, you can observe without the subject knowing its
being observed. In QM that's not possible to date.
regards,
jv
'Jherek' W. Swanger
B.A. in German, Russian, Spanish and Chinese. Took nothing but language
courses the whole last year of school and was never happier. Having a
Russian final at 9am and a Chinese final at 6pm on the same day was a bit
rough though. That required an entire 6-pack of Jolt.
kirsti
(not jherek)
Mr Cranky
In article <19961108011...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
<shado...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Monday, Nov. 4, MLP...@news.salford.ac.uk (Esther Palmer) typed:
>
>> Just an observation, but I haven't noticed many Modern-Language type
>> Goths here. Am I the only one?
>
>Well, count me in. I'm currently attempting degrees in German, Russian,
>and Japanese.
Watashi mo Nihongo o (some verb) desu. Demo, amari joozu ja arimasen
deshita.
3 Semesters so far, but I haven't taken a class in about a year, so I've
forgotten a lot of it. Once I get a degree in Japanese, (starting back
up this Spring), then I'm going to learn German and sign language.
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Yet another Bloomington (IN, USA) goth. I must agree with John that this
place is very corrosive to the soul. While there are some pleasant roads
to drive on (if you're a driver-goth and like twisty roads), the town is
very white-bread. Fairly tolerant now, though it wasn't for the first 4
years I was here (90-94). My main problem with it is the lack of a 21-35
interesting people population. (Most of the students here are still lost
in that "I'm in college, whee! And mommy pays the credit card bills!"
phase. That and I really can't stay up until 3am every weekday night.)
Ob Poll Answer: Computer Science, BA '95. (BA because I didn't feel like
taking a 3 hour mini-thesis class after being in college for 7 years.)
Jon
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Little C
StrangeGirl (rem...@sjm.infi.net) wrote:
: Little C wrote:
: >
: Yes, but does it grab your arm, start kissing it, and say "Cara Mia!"?
*very serious nod* sometimes. You'd be surprised. ;)
-C., off to fsck up a Calc quiz....whee!
Graham Dunn
In article <tindalosE...@netcom.com>, Mr Cranky wrote:
>In article <19961108011...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> <shado...@aol.com> wrote:
>>On Monday, Nov. 4, MLP...@news.salford.ac.uk (Esther Palmer) typed:
>>
>>> Just an observation, but I haven't noticed many Modern-Language type
>>> Goths here. Am I the only one?
>>
>>Well, count me in. I'm currently attempting degrees in German, Russian,
>>and Japanese.
>
>Watashi mo Nihongo o (some verb) desu. Demo, amari joozu ja arimasen
>deshita.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
benkyou shimasu. (study)
Dou itashimashite :]
Jaaa ne,
Graham
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Civil engineering...interesting !
Poena a dies datum vita aeterna est.
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On 6 Nov 1996, Stefan Spaenhoven wrote:
> Tamara N Al-Hussaini (s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu) wrote:
>
> : A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> : majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art. I only know 3 people
> : that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
> : international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
> : friend is majoring in mass communications. Are there others that majored
> : in something different? Any science majors?
>
C Fitzgerald
A question was asked:
> >> A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
> >> majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art.
> >>(snip)
> >> Are there others that majored in something different? Any science majors?
> >> Tamara
*fear*
*shudder*
And when I graduate, I will wave my political science degree up
in the air and the world will tremble :) So I have another three years of
graduate school before I can do anything remotely productive *sigh* Look
kids, vote for me, I am eeeeviil!
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Edward Johnson
-Synic- (sy...@omen.com.au) wrote:
: Psychiatry is a science. Psychology is a branch of social inquiry/
: humanities.
Psychology is a science, the study of human behavior. Psychiatry
is 'lets give him drugs and change the symptoms and not actually do
anything for him'. Prozac Pez Dispensors, coming soon from your local
Psychiatrist who was too lazy to actually diagnose and treat a patient.
One requires the use of drugs which you can test, validate,
: invalidate. The other is a wishy/washy mixture of communication and
: observation.
Which is all you need to treat 90% of the problems out there.
Even a majority of physical ailments are at least partly, if not wholely
psychosomatic in nature.
: You may hate Psychology not being considered a "science," but, until you
: can show me -any- means of simple theory Popperian Falsificationism at
: work, you're out of luck.
It's as much as science as anything else. However, seeing as
math, physics, geometry, chemistry, etc. are all about 3000 years old and
psychology is about 100 years old, you can't really blame us for being a
bit rough around the edges. Besides, like the rest of the sciences are so
cut and dry. Attend a physics seminar and you'll think you were at
religious debate (which in a sense, you are!)
Ever and Always
Edvamp
the Albatross
Edward Johnson wrote:
>
> -Synic- (sy...@omen.com.au) wrote:
>
> : Psychiatry is a science. Psychology is a branch of social inquiry/
> : humanities.
>
> Psychology is a science, the study of human behavior. > Psychiatry
> is 'lets give him drugs and change the symptoms and not actually do
> anything for him'. Prozac Pez Dispensors, coming soon from your local
> Psychiatrist who was too lazy to actually diagnose and treat a patient.
<applause>
Though in my case, my psychologist wanted to drug me... but the
psychiatrist told me to go out and get a life... the best advice I ever
got...
Alabaster Albatross
PS. Can someone tell me what the hell I'm doing up?
Victoria E. Lease
In article <jpbaker.847461968@copper>,
Jon P Baker <jpb...@copper.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:
>Yet another Bloomington (IN, USA) goth. I must agree with John that this
>place is very corrosive to the soul.
Hey, I come from "Normal, IL". The very name strikes fear into my heart.
This place is soul death, long and painful.
Boudicca
Then there are those of us who spent our late teens/early 20's
studying in the school of Life survival. No degrees for this Sad Old
Goth, just a lot of knowledge learned for the joy of it, or through
bitter experience.
As a result, no-one will play Trivial Pursuit with me a second time
:-)
deadrose
a vase...a shard...dead roses....
David Gerard
Chemistry (total loss), then Engineering (largely a loss), then Computer
Science (much less of a loss, but nothing even approaching a completed
degree in anything so far).
--
Rev Dr David Gerard f...@suburbia.net http://cougar.vut.edu.au/~gerdw/gothpix/
GothCode 2.0: GoAu!3CS+ TJt(ZZ) B10/23Bk^1 cR(DBR){G} p++ PPe(LNa) V++s M+3p1w
ZEx(!!--Go) C+3p1u a29- n!O b+:- H194 g+! m+)++( w+T r-4E D+~! h++TFe(Ad) s7 k+
Rn SrNy N0488Wn LauVIC+* HsMp1 500-Purity: 40.6% Beer makes you smart.
David Gerard
On 6 Nov 1996 07:44:50 GMT, Stefan Spaenhoven (sspa...@eduserv2.rug.ac.be) wrote:
:Well, I'm mot really a goth-person myself, but I'm quite
:interested in the Gothic 'livestyle'. Maybe because my
:poetry (well, something that looks like it) is sometimes
:pretty dark too.
"I'm not a goth, but ..."
ahem.
If you have a gothy SO, you can call yourself Goth-Compatible(tm).
If you don't have a gothy SO, keep trying.
David Gerard
In article <564p0c$n...@asherak.flat-earth.org>, Victoria E. Lease wrote:
:In article <jpbaker.847461968@copper>,
You come from 'Normal'?!
I can imagine the postcards you send friends. 'Greetings from Normal.
Wish I was not here.' Toothless grinning rednecks on front.
You should appropriate a road sign - perhaps 'Welcome to NORMAL.
Normal Welcomes Careful Drivers' - to scare roomies with. Imagine
one a' them Vampire Weird Chicks(tm) flourishing a 'Welcome to NORMAL'
sign. If that don't work as frat-repellent *nothing* will. You could
carry it around on a stick or something with an expression like it
says 'The World Ends Tomorrow'. Hell, it *does*.
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Anti-Scientology Picket Dec 7-8 1996 http://www.primenet.com/~cultxpt/demo.htm
Sorrow is Her Name
Poena a dies datum vita aeterna est.
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Maestitia aeterno vobiscum.
On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Mair Hall wrote:
>
> >> Tamara N Al-Hussaini wrote:
> >> > Are there others that majored in something different? Any science
> >> > majors?
>
> how about biology then population ecology then special ed and now
> disability studies
>
> so i guess i was a science major ... if you want to label it as such ...
> but then what are labels
>
>Well, what will your degree officially say: BS/A or MS/A in what? pick
one. But at least you're majoring in something different! More diversity!
Sorrow is Her Name
Poena a dies datum vita aeterna est.
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Maestitia aeterno vobiscum.
On 9 Nov 1996, Graham Dunn wrote:
> In article <tindalosE...@netcom.com>, Mr Cranky wrote:
> >In article <19961108011...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
> > <shado...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>On Monday, Nov. 4, MLP...@news.salford.ac.uk (Esther Palmer) typed:
> >>
> >>> Just an observation, but I haven't noticed many Modern-Language type
> >>> Goths here. Am I the only one?
> >>
Hold on there! I didn't major in a language ( although very close to
majoring in russian and german) but i got my degree in biology. But, i
took so many language courses. I'm bilingual -arabic and english, and i
took russian, latin, german in college (i can read and write in all).
Right now, i'm teaching myself greek. With the exception of greek, i know
the above languages at an above intermediate level. I speak the languages
very well with the exception of technical terms such as mitochondria,
tyrosine kinase etc.
> >>Well, count me in. I'm currently attempting degrees in German, Russian,
> >>and Japanese.
> >
Kharasho! ya znayoo rusky yazik i nemetzky i latinsky i arabik i anglisky
yaziki! Ochen interisnii! Pichete mnoga?
Victoria E. Lease
In article <slrn58dgf...@dora.tertius.net.au>,
Yes, the jokes never end. 'I went back to Normal this weekend. That place
SUCKS. It's so BORING!'. Ick. It took me all of five minutes to get bored
of them.
>You should appropriate a road sign - perhaps 'Welcome to NORMAL.
>Normal Welcomes Careful Drivers' - to scare roomies with. Imagine
>one a' them Vampire Weird Chicks(tm) flourishing a 'Welcome to NORMAL'
>sign. If that don't work as frat-repellent *nothing* will. You could
>carry it around on a stick or something with an expression like it
>says 'The World Ends Tomorrow'. Hell, it *does*.
Hahahahaha. Cool. Actually, I was thinking of having somebody run a few
Lorena Bobbit t-shirts, which I could wear as fucko-repellant. That, or
perhaps a nice poster of her, hanging directly over my bed.
*giggle*
*snipsnipsnip*
Virginia Williams
Edward Johnson wrote:
>
> -Synic- (sy...@omen.com.au) wrote:
>
> : Psychiatry is a science. Psychology is a branch of social inquiry/
> : humanities.
>
> Psychology is a science, the study of human behavior. Psychiatry
> is 'lets give him drugs and change the symptoms and not actually do
> anything for him'. Prozac Pez Dispensors, coming soon from your local
> Psychiatrist who was too lazy to actually diagnose and treat a patient.
>
> : invalidate. The other is a wishy/washy mixture of communication and
> : observation.
>
> Which is all you need to treat 90% of the problems out there.
> Even a majority of physical ailments are at least partly, if not wholely
> psychosomatic in nature.
>
> : You may hate Psychology not being considered a "science," but, until you
> : can show me -any- means of simple theory Popperian Falsificationism at
> : work, you're out of luck.
>
> It's as much as science as anything else. However, seeing as
> math, physics, geometry, chemistry, etc. are all about 3000 years old and
> psychology is about 100 years old, you can't really blame us for being a
> bit rough around the edges. Besides, like the rest of the sciences are so
> cut and dry. Attend a physics seminar and you'll think you were at
> religious debate (which in a sense, you are!)
>
> Ever and Always
> Edvamp
there was a really great club in Orlando called Faith in Physics...
--
virg...@pig.net why aren't you worshipping me!?!
Kate Pohjola
C Fitzgerald <fi...@u.washington.edu> writes:
>A question was asked:
>> >> A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
>> >> majoring/majored in English, psychology, and art.
>> >>(snip)
> And when I graduate, I will wave my political science degree up
>in the air and the world will tremble :) So I have another three years of
>graduate school before I can do anything remotely productive *sigh* Look
>kids, vote for me, I am eeeeviil!
careful with that political science degree. if you wave it around too
much, it's likely to get out of control, fall and whack you on the side of
the head. that's what mine did to me. i promptly went to grad school
and got a degree i can use (:
katester
--
"Tormented by the futility of life, I can see the stars from a million
miles. Are you out there, somewhere? Transposed?" -Single Gun Theory
http://www.grfn.org/~kapohj
Colleen Rathke
David Gerard wrote:
>
> On 6 Nov 1996 07:44:50 GMT, Stefan Spaenhoven (sspa...@eduserv2.rug.ac.be) wrote:
>
> :Well, I'm mot really a goth-person myself, but I'm quite
> :interested in the Gothic 'livestyle'. Maybe because my
> :poetry (well, something that looks like it) is sometimes
> :pretty dark too.
>
> "I'm not a goth, but ..."
"...i play one on tv." *hee* sorry, couldn't resist.
- c -
cra...@willab.com
Individuation
> You come from 'Normal'?!
>
> Wish I was not here.' Toothless grinning rednecks on front.
>
> Normal Welcomes Careful Drivers' - to scare roomies with. Imagine
> one a' them Vampire Weird Chicks(tm) flourishing a 'Welcome to NORMAL'
> sign. If that don't work as frat-repellent *nothing* will. You could
> carry it around on a stick or something with an expression like it
> says 'The World Ends Tomorrow'. Hell, it *does*.
>
That is so very funny that Normal should come up in this newsgroup. I
recently drove through there on my my way to a concert...if I had had a
camera I totally would have jumped out and taken a picture next to the
town sign...I was talking about it with a friend in the car. What a
coincident...
:)
Eileen
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the death of color" --The Legendary Pink Dots
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David Gerard
In article <55pedj$i...@f1n1.spenet.wfu.edu>, Overlord of Darkness wrote:
:Well... I'm a philosophy major... do you count metaphysics as a science?..:)
No; at its height, it is an utterly pure art form, like mathematics.
Java G
In article <Pine.A32.3.95.961109...@titan.vcu.edu>, Sorrow
is Her Name <s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> writes:
|>
|>Civil engineering...interesting !
hah! a civil engineer is basically either a glorified bricklayer or
a architect who couldn't make it.
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I major in Criminalistics.
Lithium
I use to have a poster of a glove that had been torn up and soaked with
blood on a white tile back ground, blood splatter everywhere, that had the
caption of keep your hands to yourself. It use to hang above the headboard
of my bed.
Lithium
Austin S Chamberlain
Tamara N Al-Hussaini <s2tn...@titan.vcu.edu> writes:
>A friend and I were noticing that all the goths we seem to meet are
>that studied something else: one majored in biology, the other in
>international relations. I majored in biology- now microbiology, and my
>in something different? Any science majors?
I'm a computer science major, and some of the goths I know are:
1 computer scientist
2 mechanical engineers
1 electronic engineer
1 English major
Seems to be a tendency towards science :)
--
The Lesser Spotted Nightgaunt
Science is a fallacy | Austin Chamberlain
Religion is a lie | acha...@cs.uct.ac.za
There's no such place as heaven | http://www.cs.uct.ac.za/~achamber
And we're all going to die |
Lithium
I am in the process of becoming a refrigeration mechanic. Not a degree,
but more work than can be handled. It also pays great too.
lithium
yo...@aol.com
Since I go to a junior college, I don't have a major. Most of my classes
are Drama, Historical Cultural Anthropology and English related.
@ustin
Al Golagnia
Ummm....
I'm getting my Private Detective license...
And taking Japanese...
And Theology...
plus Forensics...
a.g
who has to ask 'what would Kelvin Mace do?'
-Jen
In article <3295E9...@wrq.com>, Al Golagnia <aar...@wrq.com> wrote:
>Ummm....
>
>I'm getting my Private Detective license...
>And taking Japanese...
>And Theology...
>plus Forensics...
Oooh! You're back on-line!
:}
Cheers!
-Jen
Al Golagnia
-Jen wrote:
> Oooh! You're back on-line!
>
> :}
>
> Cheers!
>
> -Jen
Truth be told, I simply couldn't stay away...I'm not going to make it
out to Chicago until the spring but I've ceased Europe for the time
being, having run out of both motivation and money....I did get thrown
out of Greece though...so it wasn't a total waste.
a.g
who is still a Manlygoth(tm) now that the tan is faded
P.S. I sorta lost Heather's email address...would you be the winter
rose redolent of lost spring nights and send it to me please?