alt.gothic.fashion.faq [part 12/12]
Trystan L. Bass
Newsgroups:alt.gothic.fashion,alt.gothic
Subject: alt.gothic.fashion.faq [part 12/12]
Followup-To: poster
From: tr...@toreadors.com
Summary: This posting attempts to answer some of the frequently
asked questions in the newsgroup alt.gothic.fashion,
particularly about stores and mail-order resources.
Archive-name: gothic-fashion-faq/part12
Posting-Frequency: monthly
Last Modified: December 7, 1997
Version: 4.0
URL: http://www.toreadors.com/gothfash/
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3.3 what are some dark lipstick brands?
From: emyly
wet 'n wild -- i just discovered their halloween
"fantasy makers" line, with three shades of black
lipstick (creme, shimmer, pearl) and a black
liquid lip color, blue lipstick, glittery face and
body paints...
From: Jillian Sutter
I went and got a tube of the Vamp lipstick. Great
color, stays on well...and Chanel uses rose oil in
their lipsticks, so they smell really neat.
From: Mooncrow
The best black lipstick I ever used was Almay's
liquid black eyeliner! Stays on until you take it
off, but does tend to make your lips feel (but not
look) dried-up. Great if you like matte black lips.
From: Verotika
I always found that MAC Media, with some
black liner works wonderfully. Plus, unlike other
lipsticks, the media stays put for hours
(seriously).
From: Christabel La Motte
For black lipstick -- if you're on a budget, haunt
drugstores and Halloween shops: the Fantasy
Makers black (plain creme formula) is, well,
decent for 99 cents. If you have a bit more
money to blow, Makeup Forever makes a
lovely creamy opaque black. I've also found a
brand called "Lip Krayon" (lipstick in pencil
form, surprisingly creamy for the type) that
makes a fairly opaque black: however, it doesn't
seem to last as long, and the brand doesn't seem
to be very well distributed.
If you're not dead-set on true black, a few other
things to consider: Black Opal, "Ebony Wine." A
lovely, near-black purple shade, about six bucks.
Chanel, "Rouge Noir" a.k.a. "Vamp" (the
ORIGINAL stuff, not Metallic Vamp or Very
Vamp or the Vamp quads). If anyone out there
HASN'T seen this yet, it's a VERY dark oxblood
shade. Line your lips with a black kohl pencil
instead of the Vamp lipliner for a darker look. If
you have to ask how much it costs, believe me,
you DON'T want to know... *sigh*
Wet 'n' Wild/Fantasy Makers, "Blackest
Red." A Vamp knockoff. OK, so it doesn't smell
or taste or feel as nice as the Chanel, or come in a
pretty tube. For 99 cents, what do you expect? At
least it LOOKS good.
From: Chrys
the urban decay colors are all really cool. i
mean, i wear it, and my friends (some of them
are goths) come up and like STARE at my lips.
these are good. given, they may in some places
cost up to $15 a pop, they're worth it. for lips:
smog, plague, oilslick, bruise, and gash (which
looks a helluva lot more like glistening blood
than vamp or whatever, and it's my fave. color).
From: LadyHallow
Black Opal makes a lipstick color called Ebony
Wine... it's practically black, with a very nice
raisin/purple tint. So many of the dark colors
turn out fuchsia when I put them on, so it's a
pleasure to find one that stays striking. Costs
about $5.
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3.4 what are some dark nail polish brands?
From: Estelle
I have this nail polish called "Midnight" by Estee
Lauder. It's really pricey.. I don't remember
how much it cost (probably blocked it out of my
memory), but it gives this lovely dark purple
effect. It is a dark.. dark purple that looks black
from afar, and to really get that dried blood
affect you have to apply about two thick coats. If
you got the dough, and want a high quality nail
polish.. then go get some 'cause I *love* it and
think it's worth every penny.
From: Walter Keighron
My absolute favorite black polish is a shade called
Black on Black, manufactured by Mirage
cosmetics under the brand name Sinful. Also,
even Wet n' Wild stays on a good long time
without chipping if you make sure nails are clean,
buffed if you have the time, and you apply a good
base coat (as well as top coat). Any old Revlon
or Sally Hansen base works quite well. It's
really not as much work as it sounds. The polish
lasts ten times longer at least.
From: Sande
If you're in L.A. area, try NINA and look fer it
in Whittier. If you're in Boston, try Topstone
Industries Professional BLACK nail polish
and look for it at Oona's (Newbury St., Hahvahd
Sq.) $3.
From: melissa
I went out to get some Revlon Vixen polish,
which is such a lovely blood-red. I also spotted
some cheapo-but-good Brucchi polish in Silver
Foil. Try this:
Put on a few coats of the Vixen (or other suitably
bloody shade). Then add a VERY thin coat of
Silver Foil (or other silver polish), leaving some
of the red edges showing through. You will look
like you used your stainless steel nails to
eviscerate something and didn't clean up well
enough. As the silver wears down, the look gets
more gruesome.
From: Jay
Find some deep purple nail polish, any brand
(preferably glittery), make sure it's a bright
color, not pastel, but very noticeable. Pile it on
until you get a nice even coat of it, then put a
very thin coating of the cheapy wet-n-wild
black on it, and finish it off with a protective
coating. Ends up looking better than Vixen (or a
similar color), I've had people come up to me
and ask me whose throat i ripped out recently. :)
Also I kind of think that painting your nails
really bright pink and streaking it with a good
thick black nail polish looks really neat.
From: Chrys
for nails, i suggest urban decay (and the names
do reflect what the colors look like, quite
vividly): bruise, oilslick, plague, gangrene, uzi,
and smog. very nice. these aren't all the colors,
just the ones goths like.
From: Diantelis
Here's an idea, that I recently discovered by
accident. I painted my nails a black colour (cheap
stuff) but then decided to be different. I took a
nail polish that's clear with silver glitter in it
and painted this over the black, and now my nails
look like a starry night.
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4.1 what other gothic fashion resources exist on
the world wide web?
http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~matt/acl/
alt.clothing.lingerie FAQ -- Will answer all your
questions about corsets, among other things.
http://www.mindspring.com/~jstoner/alt.fashion/
alt.fashion FAQ -- About fashion in general, has
a detailed hair-coloring FAQ, lists cosmetic
company addresses and phone numbers, links to
fashion web sites, etc.
http://www.vamp.org/Gothic/Text/gothic-faq.html
alt.gothic FAQ -- Basic goth info., plus some
fashion stuff.
http://www.cimmerii.demon.co.uk/upgfaq
uk.people.gothic FAQ -- Basic goth info. for the
United Kingdom, including shopping suggestions.
http://www.omen.com.au/~synic/goth/auscg.htm
aus.culture.gothic FAQ -- Basic goth info. for
Australia, including stores listings.
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9306/agFAQ.html
alt.gothic newsgroup FAQ -- Actually about the
newsgroup itself, instead of about the subculture.
http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/~tmiller/aga-a-c.htm
alt.gothic.arts-and-crafts -- Archived tips and
suggestions from a.g.f. for making pretty little
goth things for around the house.
http://login.dknet.dk:80/~pg/fetish/
alt.sex.fetish.fashion FAQ -- Extensive suppliers
lists (England, Europe and Far East, North
America) including resources for leather,
bondage, PVC, corsets, shoes, toys.
http://www.gothic.net/darkside/darkweb.html
Dark Side of the Web -- Probably all the gothic
web links you'll ever need, hundreds of 'em,
updated frequently.
http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/b.rosenberg/goth/dye.faq.html
Dye It Black FAQ -- Pretty good instructions for
dying your clothes black, plus dye resources and
books.
http://www.bibiana.com/velvet/gothable.html
Gothable Patterns -- Commercially available
patterns that could be made into lovely goth
fashions.
http://www.toreadors.com/costume/patterns.html
The Great Pattern Review -- The good, the bad,
and the ugly in historical reproduction patterns.
http://www.toreadors.com/costume/
Greater Bay Area Costumer's Guild Home Page
-- Has a good list of historical clothing and
costume links.
http://www.vamp.org/Gothic/Text/makeup.html
Makeup Tips for the Bleak -- Clever suggestions
on how to look oh-so-gothically pale and lovely
http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/~tmiller/sixfeet.htm
Six Feet Under -- A nifty do-it-yourself guide to
gothic fashion, for aspiring SewingGoths, plus
archived info. from a.g.f.
http://www.bright.net/~catsuit/pale.html
Skin Paling Cream -- A recipe to whiten your
face. No idea if it works, but people keep asking
for this kind of stuff...
http://www.crg.cs.nott.ac.uk/~rji/Gothic/TAB/tab.html
Take a Bite -- Gothic e-zine with lots of fashion
tips, both silly and serious.
http://www.vampyre.wis.net//vampyre/shops.html
Vampyre Stores -- A small, yet international,
listing of gothic clothing and vampire oriented
stores.
http://www.stanford.edu/~tiggerr/dyeing.html
Wicked Hair Dying Page -- Tips for dying hair
unnatural colors and reviews of coloring
products.
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5.0 credits.and.disclaimer
credits
Any entry not followed by a name in brackets or
preceded by a name was written by Trystan L.
Bass (who has been the original faq-maintainer
since it's inception in late 1995. Nobody else
wanted the job, but everyone thought it was a
good idea to have a faq ;-).
The following people contributed information to
this FAQ, either directly or by posting to
alt.gothic.fashion and alt.gothic. I did not get
express permission from all of these people to
reprint their words. If anyone wishes to be
deleted, please contact me and you will be deleted
in the next revision. Usually *several months*
pass between revisions, so be patient.
A Special Thanks to these Contributors who just
keep sending me stuff or posting really great
things on the net!:
Cairo
Christabel La Motte
Jillian Sutter
Lorelle Anderson
Margaret Rhodes
All the Other Great Contributors:
A. Popp, Aconite, Andrew Clegg, Angela,
AngelsFall, Barry Robb, BatGoth, Bathsheba,
Bitsy, Blk0rchid, blue girl, brendan, Charles
Gray, crimson heart, Chrissy, Christopher
Anderson, Chrys, Coronavirus, Corinne, Dark
Dragon, Darren Grant, David Gartrell, David I.
Yates, dejavu, Demonica Del Rio, Denise
Connell, Diantelis, Dita, Diva, dogcow, Elaine
Park, Emeraldas, emyly, Erhnam Djinn, Eric,
Estelle, Ethereal, evoL, feline, Gachaman, Gloria
Orlandi, Gnat Hammerstrom, GothGate, GothPat,
Hardrock, Heidi Evans, Ilen Zazueta-Audirac,
Inge Formenti, insijma, Jacquie, Jane Shaw, Jay,
Jenn, jenni, joolz, JTudway, Julia, Julie
Eisenhardt, Juliet Wisner, Karen Dick, Lacrima,
Lady Ada, Lady Bathory, LadyHallow, Lana
Michelle, Larissa, Lisa Pardee, Louise Fong,
luluwhite, M. Giordan, M. V. Webe, Magda
Bathory, Malkavian, Marie X, Marla Brunker,
Mary-Suzanne, max factor, melissa, Michael
Saint, Mike Boning, Mistress Cat, Miz Stewart,
moonbb8, Mooncrow, Nate, Nightsky, Nikolai
Kingsley, Niniane, Norman Padilla, Nyghtfall,
otherguy, Otterley, platypus, Rhiannon, Rook,
Rosaleen Dhu, Rowan, Sande, Scary Gary, Sean
Hexed, ShadowFox, SmokeSerpent, Talone
Feyehomme, The Doctor, Thessaly, Thom,
tofugirl, Tom Mary Dobrowolsky, Tracyarts,
Valeskah, Velvtnoir, Verotika, ViktorBlak,
Victoria Gwaed, Walter Keighron, Waz from Oz,
Wozzeck, Wraatha, Zoe
disclaimer
I disclaim absolutely everything. The contents of
this article might be totally inaccurate,
inappropriate, misguided, or just plain silly and
foolish. I take no responsibility for the veracity
of any information here, although I did try to
check stuff out first. As always, buyer beware,
look before you leap, etc. And remember, folks,
this is a work in progress!
--Trystan L. Bass
tr...@toreadors.com
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6.0 alt.gothic.fashion.advertising.guidelines
these guidelines were worked out mainly by
Sande and siani over a series of articles on
alt.gothic.fashion and alt.gothic.
1. advertisements should be labeled by subject
headers starting with "AD" (in capitals).
2. ads should be kept short and to the point.
3. FASHION ads should be posted _only_ to
a.g.f., not to the newsgroup alt.gothic.
4. ads should be posted only once every three
months.
these are only guidelines, to be mailed to anyone
who posts an ad. if you have any objections,
please e mail siani (bw...@freenet.carleton.ca) or
Sande (sa...@mail.geocities.com) or complain to the
newsgroup. we will take any considerations into
account and possibly revise the guidelines.
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