gothic art
Lord of Dreams
: i've seen various posts on here about gothic clothing, gothic decorations,
: gothic names, etc. do any of you like gothic art, say, from the medieval
: period? i do, i find it quite interesting. i like gothic architecture as
: well - especially on some of the old French and British cathedrals -
: they're gorgeous.
: i also found when i read _Notre Dame De Paris_ by Victor Hugo that it
: conjured up many gothic images....what do you all think?
: jennifer.
I'd think Mary had a little lamb, but, it's the evening, I've just come
awake, and i've not had any coffee or tea.
- Dream (i'd love to go back and finish it)
Eques Rufus
: i've seen various posts on here about gothic clothing, gothic decorations,
: gothic names, etc. do any of you like gothic art, say, from the medieval
: period? i do, i find it quite interesting. i like gothic architecture as
: well - especially on some of the old French and British cathedrals -
: they're gorgeous.
It kind of depends on what you mean by "gothic", especially when talking about
the middle ages. Speaking on things regarding today's version of "gothic",
I'd say my favorite is Caspar David Friedrich. He was a German painter of the
Romantic era, and his best works (IMHO) regard the theme of "Nature as Tempest"
including a few stormy night-type scenes. A fair number have people in them,
but they are almost always facing the background. Lessee...some titles include
"Tree with Crows" and (I think) "Abbey in the Woods".
Incidentally, Anne Rice's LeStat was right when he said Rembrandt was
beatiful. I dunno about *goth*, but they're good enough that I've got a couple
of prints in my room.
: i also found when i read _Notre Dame De Paris_ by Victor Hugo that it
: conjured up many gothic images....what do you all think?
I dunno about that..never read it, but I'd say Les Miserables is pretty gothic.
My personal favorite gothic poet, one whom I haven't seen mentioned on this
gorup next (probably due to inattention) is Novalis, most specifically _Hymns
to the Night_. Fellow was slowly dying of.. I forget..tuberculosis?.. and
wrote a whole bunch of great poems about inevitable, imminent death. If you
dont mind the fact that he was a devout Catholic (and showed this in his
poetry), I highly recommend it. Even better if you can read (and appreciate)
the original German, but it is available in English translation.
: jennifer.
-- Eques Rufus
-- ru...@falcon.cc.ukans.edu
Jonathan Warner
>
> : i've seen various posts on here about gothic clothing, gothic decorations,
> : gothic names, etc. do any of you like gothic art, say, from the medieval
> : period? i do, i find it quite interesting. i like gothic architecture as
> : well - especially on some of the old French and British cathedrals -
> : they're gorgeous.
>
> : i also found when i read _Notre Dame De Paris_ by Victor Hugo that it
> : conjured up many gothic images....what do you all think?
>
> : jennifer.
>
When considering what sort of artistic and cultural trappings go with the so-
called Gothic movement, I think you should cast your net a little wider than
that which is literally Gothic, such as architecture and art of
Medieval Europe. Remember that cathedrals such as Durham and Chartres were
considered to be the latest hi-tec architecture of the time, and incorporated
the latest building methods, and far from being gloomy, contained more
glass, and were lighter than, most comparable buildings of the time.
The gloomy image is something that has come to us through the "Gothic" novels
of the early 19c in England, where, particularly in the works of Mrs
Radcliffe, ruined cathedrals are the scene of what were then considered
to be horrifying and scary incidents, which were usually explained later
in the plot in some rational way.
For art with exotic, sybaritic and dark themes now ascribed to the "Gothic"
movement, try the works of 19c Decadents such as Gustave Moreau, or
Pre-Raphaelites, particularly Edward Burne-Jones. Try the engraver, Gustave
Dore (the last letter of his name having an e-acute). Vienna Secessionists
such as klimt inspired one of Siouxsie's album covers, i remember.
Look at anything that could be called "Romantic" such as the work of
Gericault, Goya etc.
And for literature, avoid Poppy Brite who writes nothing but self indulgent
crap designed to screw money out of unsuspecting teenagers and go straight
for the classics such as Mary Shelley (Frankenstein, The Last Man etc.)
Sheridan Le Fanu (Uncle Silas, Carmilla), and Stoker of course.
Above all, though, experiment for yourself. No harm can come from it.
Regards,
Jonathan
COLBORN BENJAMIN JOSEPH
: i've seen various posts on here about gothic clothing, gothic decorations,
: gothic names, etc. do any of you like gothic art, say, from the medieval
: period? i do, i find it quite interesting. i like gothic architecture as
: well - especially on some of the old French and British cathedrals -
: they're gorgeous.
: i also found when i read _Notre Dame De Paris_ by Victor Hugo that it
: conjured up many gothic images....what do you all think?
Right on! The real gothic stuff is really cool. Unless you've been in
one, you cannot imagine how small you feel in a real honest-to-God gothic
cathedral. Amazing.
What about gothic literature? I'm not talking Anne Rice or that
dark-Harlequin stuff. Like the Bronte sisters, Sade/Sacher-Masoch,
Dineson (sp?), Goethe. Any fans?
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Shawnee Sue Sequeira
That abbey in the woods picture has a proper title that I can't
remember. If we are talking about the same Friedrich, then
it's my favorite art piece, hands down. Unfortunately, it was
destroyed during WWII and the only picture I've seen of it is a
black and white.
Shawnee
(who reluctantly will be doing her masters in art history next
year)
SIMON WRIGHT
see all of the exhibitions, and the vaults and shit. one of the best is
Albrecht Durer i think. his stuff is on display at the moment.
he used to work in the museum. those underground vaults, filled with all
sorts of wierd shit are THE BEST AND SCARIEST place i have ever been in my
life! reminds me of Giger's drawings about pits and stuff (can't remember
what they are called).
Simon.
SIMON WRIGHT
>From: kla...@qualcomm.com ()
>Subject: Re: gothic art
>Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 14:47:27 -0400
>In article <swri1.183...@pfs01.cc.monash.edu.au>,
>sw...@pfs01.cc.monash.edu.au (SIMON WRIGHT) wrote:
> reminds me of Giger's drawings about pits and stuff (can't remember what
>they are called).
>>
>> Simon.
>Speaking of Giger, there is a whole collection of his artwork available on
>post cards. However, I would advise that you send them in an envlope.
>I've sent out a few and they have never been received. (damn mailman keeps
>stealing them)
>K.A.LAAKE
probably thinks they are real photographs, like the Denmark? Dutch? customs
officials did, when they stopped him aand his art.
The day i get a tattoo, is the day when a giger painting can be faithfully
penned onto my skin. Anyone seen any good ones?
Simon.
K. Itazura
<kla...@qualcomm.com> wrote:
>In article <swri1.183...@pfs01.cc.monash.edu.au>,
>sw...@pfs01.cc.monash.edu.au (SIMON WRIGHT) wrote:
>Speaking of Giger, there is a whole collection of his artwork available on
>post cards. However, I would advise that you send them in an envlope.
>I've sent out a few and they have never been received. (damn mailman keeps
>stealing them)
OH if you want more gothic art in the lastest magazine called Axcess has
a couple of ads selling art. The magazine is also cool as well to get,
so look for Vol II #4 issue. Worth $4.25 IMHO